Latest 2016 TV, only just out and £200 less than Currys and in stock at BT shop. I already have dispatch confirmation.
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TacticalTimbo to alexandercooper
14 May 1615#6
Skepticism
...2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
What he is saying, is that without sufficient evidence, the quality of this TV can only be speculation. Because we are unaware whether this TV is bad, does not mean we assume it is good.
cleverguy12
14 May 167#1
Can't see many reviews for this TV so I'm a bit sceptical regarding the quality of this set. Has anybody bought this model? If so, what's it like?
qyestionmark to alexandercooper
14 May 165#13
If it's only just out presumably you haven't have a chance to review it in the flesh? And there are no on-line reviews, so you just rushed to buy something you know virtually nothing about? I bet Samsung's marketing department are laughing all the way to the bank!!
That's not to say the set isn't any good - and I hope it is - just that a little patience might have taken some of the risk out of that and maybe given a chance to get it cheaper?
cecilmcroberts
14 May 165#15
UHD Premium is the "proper standard" by the UHD Alliance. Reading around this appears to have only a 8bit panel and 10bit is required for true UHD Premium standard. Also only a 50Hz panel.
Colour
This is the second of the most important aspects of HDR. When it comes to colour, a TV must be able to process what’s known as 10-bit or ‘deep’ colour. 10-bit colour equates to a signal that includes over a billion individual colours. In comparison, Blu-ray uses 8-bit colour, which amounts to around 16 million different colours. With 10-bit colour, HDR TVs will be able to produce a vastly expanded range of colour shades, reducing overtly obvious gradations between shades and making scenes look far more realistic.
However, as is always the case with these things, it isn’t quite as simple as this. In order to be considered HDR compatible, a TV doesn’t need to be able to display all the colours in a 10-bit signal. It just has to be able to process the signal and produce an image based on that information.
And it doesn’t stop there. If you’re still with us, there’s more colour stuff to go over. An HDR TV must be able to produce a certain amount of what’s known as ‘P3’ colour. P3 colour refers to the range of the colour spectrum which is included. The best way to think about this is imagine an overall colour spectrum, and within that a set of defined spaces. The P3 colour space is a larger than the what standard TVs use, Rec. 709, which means it covers more colours.
Essentially, HDR means a TV can cover a wider space within the colour spectrum, and within that space, the various gradations of shades will be much smoother than on current TVs.
Can't see many reviews for this TV so I'm a bit sceptical regarding the quality of this set. Has anybody bought this model? If so, what's it like?
ctallent01 to cleverguy12
15 May 162#34
I work at a TV retailer in the Southwest. We put ours out on Friday. The 55" 9000 series curved is awesome. This model at the normal retail price is mega awesome. At this price, mega mega awesome. Colour, contrast and detail are superb.
alexandercooper
14 May 162#2
So because you have not found a review on a newly released tv, you assume it's not going to be good....lol. Look up the higher ue49ks7000 quantum dot tv and try and find reviews on that...same thing, it's to new
TacticalTimbo to alexandercooper
14 May 1615#6
Skepticism
...2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
What he is saying, is that without sufficient evidence, the quality of this TV can only be speculation. Because we are unaware whether this TV is bad, does not mean we assume it is good.
qyestionmark to alexandercooper
14 May 165#13
If it's only just out presumably you haven't have a chance to review it in the flesh? And there are no on-line reviews, so you just rushed to buy something you know virtually nothing about? I bet Samsung's marketing department are laughing all the way to the bank!!
That's not to say the set isn't any good - and I hope it is - just that a little patience might have taken some of the risk out of that and maybe given a chance to get it cheaper?
shahidali47
14 May 162#3
it's the 2016 entry level TV.
xela333 to shahidali47
14 May 162#5
It's got some pretty decent specs for an entry level.
waqasshabir to shahidali47
14 May 163#9
Every TV thread has one of these 'entry level comments' lol
TheGuvnor
14 May 16#4
I thought the K6000 was the entry model? This looks like a good deal to me...
it's a HDR TV so it has to meet certain specifications which are higher than general 4k tvs so I'm assuming it's fairly decent
Seanspeed to nia112001
14 May 161#25
It's not actually a true HDR display, just to warn you and others. All proper(1000 nit+) HDR TV's by Samsung are labeled as SUHD and this one is not for a reason.
It's an ok deal but people should not be fooled by the HDR capabilities advertised.
topss
14 May 16#10
Cheaper at a few other places. So not really a good price.
Darthballs
14 May 16#11
will richer sounds price match?
captainbeaky to Darthballs
14 May 161#14
They might want to factor in the cost of their 6 year guarantee.
bemaniac
14 May 16#12
Currently fighting to return ks8000 as it doesnt do full color from a pc. Also 2 dead pixels appeared after some distortion on screen.
cecilmcroberts
14 May 165#15
UHD Premium is the "proper standard" by the UHD Alliance. Reading around this appears to have only a 8bit panel and 10bit is required for true UHD Premium standard. Also only a 50Hz panel.
Colour
This is the second of the most important aspects of HDR. When it comes to colour, a TV must be able to process what’s known as 10-bit or ‘deep’ colour. 10-bit colour equates to a signal that includes over a billion individual colours. In comparison, Blu-ray uses 8-bit colour, which amounts to around 16 million different colours. With 10-bit colour, HDR TVs will be able to produce a vastly expanded range of colour shades, reducing overtly obvious gradations between shades and making scenes look far more realistic.
However, as is always the case with these things, it isn’t quite as simple as this. In order to be considered HDR compatible, a TV doesn’t need to be able to display all the colours in a 10-bit signal. It just has to be able to process the signal and produce an image based on that information.
And it doesn’t stop there. If you’re still with us, there’s more colour stuff to go over. An HDR TV must be able to produce a certain amount of what’s known as ‘P3’ colour. P3 colour refers to the range of the colour spectrum which is included. The best way to think about this is imagine an overall colour spectrum, and within that a set of defined spaces. The P3 colour space is a larger than the what standard TVs use, Rec. 709, which means it covers more colours.
Essentially, HDR means a TV can cover a wider space within the colour spectrum, and within that space, the various gradations of shades will be much smoother than on current TVs.
What I find funny is that that table has all the entries in English with exception of one (for this tv) which is in Russian (as far as I can tell) :smiley:
chrispaps12
14 May 16#16
Good deal but I agree with cecilmcroberts if you want a future proof tv it has to be UHD premium certified and for best results it looks like screen size should be 55 inches and above.
jase.2 to chrispaps12
14 May 16#17
so its not very good then?
cecilmcroberts
14 May 16#19
It was google translated. Original I believe was posted on a Polish website and that one was lifted from a Portuguese site google translated! So yeah rather confusing. Most information around the web on the tv is from Poland.
alexandercooper
14 May 16#20
Of course UHD premium is better but the cheapest Samsung uhd premium is £1200 ue49ks7000 (nearly double the price)
jase.2
14 May 16#21
any views on which is best between this samsung and the LG 850 (below) or 860 even
HEAT! Brilliant price find for a real HDR compliant model ;-)
Shame it is not a few inches more, as in the 55" version as it would be just the right
price V the spec for this range.
cecilmcroberts to 008
14 May 16#24
Take it you didn't read the comments which show it is not true HDR complaint lacking a 10bit panel.
Sharpharp
14 May 161#23
LOL, Samsung the TV of choice for Singletons..... These Sammys have the worst viewing angle of any manufacturer bar none.
Only purchase this if you intend to sit directly in front of it, the slightest angle and it'll be like watching TV on an Nintendo DS.
Horrorwood to Sharpharp
14 May 161#26
What a load of rubbish.
Sharpharp
14 May 16#27
It's ok, when you buy a decent TV you'll thank me :smile:
parkersblock
14 May 16#28
There's a reason these new models are cheaper than last years me thinks..
it was £603.77, now its £665.15 - so not a better deal anymore.
parkersblock
23 May 16#40
Very useful chart, 8-bit 50hz panel is definite no no for me.
Sarnie92
20 Jun 16#41
Does anyone who purchased this have any feedback? Seems to be a good deal, but lack of online reviews is off-putting.
wakkaday
2 Aug 16#42
and is this hdr? because sites are saying it is full hdr
Cro_Baron
6 Nov 16#43
I played marco polo on netflix with it and it sure does look fine. I mean like wide colour gamut not sure if 10 bit though
alexandercooper
6 Nov 16#44
It's not 10 bit, however it's still a very fine picture quality. My friend has the ue48js8000 nano crystal, (previous series) and I think the picture from this to set looks as good to me personally. Still very happy with my purchase of this tv. Ps...looks so much better wall mounted as the stand is massive and let's the set down imo.
Opening post
Top comments
...2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
What he is saying, is that without sufficient evidence, the quality of this TV can only be speculation. Because we are unaware whether this TV is bad, does not mean we assume it is good.
That's not to say the set isn't any good - and I hope it is - just that a little patience might have taken some of the risk out of that and maybe given a chance to get it cheaper?
Colour
This is the second of the most important aspects of HDR. When it comes to colour, a TV must be able to process what’s known as 10-bit or ‘deep’ colour. 10-bit colour equates to a signal that includes over a billion individual colours. In comparison, Blu-ray uses 8-bit colour, which amounts to around 16 million different colours. With 10-bit colour, HDR TVs will be able to produce a vastly expanded range of colour shades, reducing overtly obvious gradations between shades and making scenes look far more realistic.
However, as is always the case with these things, it isn’t quite as simple as this. In order to be considered HDR compatible, a TV doesn’t need to be able to display all the colours in a 10-bit signal. It just has to be able to process the signal and produce an image based on that information.
And it doesn’t stop there. If you’re still with us, there’s more colour stuff to go over. An HDR TV must be able to produce a certain amount of what’s known as ‘P3’ colour. P3 colour refers to the range of the colour spectrum which is included. The best way to think about this is imagine an overall colour spectrum, and within that a set of defined spaces. The P3 colour space is a larger than the what standard TVs use, Rec. 709, which means it covers more colours.
Essentially, HDR means a TV can cover a wider space within the colour spectrum, and within that space, the various gradations of shades will be much smoother than on current TVs.
https://forum.zwame.pt/threads/gama-samsung-2016.950370/
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...2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
What he is saying, is that without sufficient evidence, the quality of this TV can only be speculation. Because we are unaware whether this TV is bad, does not mean we assume it is good.
That's not to say the set isn't any good - and I hope it is - just that a little patience might have taken some of the risk out of that and maybe given a chance to get it cheaper?
It's got some pretty decent specs for an entry level.
It's an ok deal but people should not be fooled by the HDR capabilities advertised.
Colour
This is the second of the most important aspects of HDR. When it comes to colour, a TV must be able to process what’s known as 10-bit or ‘deep’ colour. 10-bit colour equates to a signal that includes over a billion individual colours. In comparison, Blu-ray uses 8-bit colour, which amounts to around 16 million different colours. With 10-bit colour, HDR TVs will be able to produce a vastly expanded range of colour shades, reducing overtly obvious gradations between shades and making scenes look far more realistic.
However, as is always the case with these things, it isn’t quite as simple as this. In order to be considered HDR compatible, a TV doesn’t need to be able to display all the colours in a 10-bit signal. It just has to be able to process the signal and produce an image based on that information.
And it doesn’t stop there. If you’re still with us, there’s more colour stuff to go over. An HDR TV must be able to produce a certain amount of what’s known as ‘P3’ colour. P3 colour refers to the range of the colour spectrum which is included. The best way to think about this is imagine an overall colour spectrum, and within that a set of defined spaces. The P3 colour space is a larger than the what standard TVs use, Rec. 709, which means it covers more colours.
Essentially, HDR means a TV can cover a wider space within the colour spectrum, and within that space, the various gradations of shades will be much smoother than on current TVs.
https://forum.zwame.pt/threads/gama-samsung-2016.950370/
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-49uf850v-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-49-led-tv-10124824-pdt.html?srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0045+%28LTC%29+Televisions~LG+49UF850V~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!53099563535!e!!g!!49uf850v&ef_id=UWk-DgAABXPQpz7@:20160514130329:s
Shame it is not a few inches more, as in the 55" version as it would be just the right
price V the spec for this range.
Only purchase this if you intend to sit directly in front of it, the slightest angle and it'll be like watching TV on an Nintendo DS.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr-tv-high-dynamic-television-explained
http://www.morecomputers.com/product.aspx?pn=UE49KU6400UXXU&man=Samsung