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BOTASOJ
10 May 16
Seems like a good deal for a high end Lenovo convertible. These are in excess of £1000 elsewhere that I have seen.

Recently listed on HUKD priced at £700 less the extras on offer:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-12-699-98-scan-uk-fhd-ips-touchscreen-i7-5600u-8gb-256gb-ssd-2430123

Spec below;

CPU Type: Intel Core i7 5600U
Screen Size: 12.5" IPS 10 Point MultiTouch screen
Resolution: 1920x1080
Memory: 8GB (1x8GB)
SSD Capacity: 256 GB SSD
Graphics Chipset: Intel HD Graphics 5500
I/O: 1 x Mini HDMI
I/O: 2 x USB 3.0
I/O: 1 x WiFi 802.11ac/Bluetooth 4.0 Module
Webcam: Yes
Keyboard Type/Language: Chiclet Keys / English (UK) Language / White LED
Colour: Black
Operating System: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit + Windows 8 Pro 64-bit DG
Dimensions : 316 x 19 x 221 mm (WxHxD)
Weight (Inc. Battery): 1.58 kg
All comments (21)
Astec123
11 May 16 1 #1
Specs for anyone wondering

CPU Type: Intel Core i7 5600U
Screen Size: 12.5" IPS 10 Point MultiTouch screen
Resolution: 1920x1080
Memory: 8GB (1x8GB)
SSD Capacity: 256 GB SSD
Graphics Chipset: Intel HD Graphics 5500
I/O: 1 x Mini HDMI
I/O: 2 x USB 3.0
I/O: 1 x WiFi 802.11ac/Bluetooth 4.0 Module
Webcam: Yes
Keyboard Type/Language: Chiclet Keys / English (UK) Language / White LED
Colour: Black
Operating System: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit + Windows 8 Pro 64-bit DG
Dimensions : 316 x 19 x 221 mm (WxHxD)
Weight (Inc. Battery): 1.58 kg

OP: I can't help but think if you'd have gone for the pure specs rather than the marketing blurb that this might have done a bit better.
BOTASOJ to Astec123
11 May 16 1 #3
You're right, as a first time poster it was a schoolboy error on my behalf but I have amended, thanks!!
djbenny1
11 May 16 #2
To be fair it does seem to be over 1k everywhere else. Not saying that's good value, though.

Using a ThinkPad at work that I really don't like, I'm not keen but my mate had the ultra slim one for work and it was a lovely thing - this seems to be somewhere in between.

Price seems good for the spec though, hot.
Astec123
11 May 16 #4
No problem. It's an error many people make on their first deal. Sadly HUKD doesn't really have a good way to manage large blocks of text in an easy to read way, so just pure specs generally is best. There's nothing to stop you replying to your own deal with the marketing stuff or even better using the quote function to list it as this is by default minimised but easy to access for anyone that wants to read it. It's also a great place to put links like you have to previous postings of the same item or links to reviews etc as they become clickable. It all helps to sell your deal to the masses in my experience.
noiren
11 May 16 #5
That's an excellent price, paid more than that for my Dell 13 2-in-1 and this has way better specs and a real CPU not this CoreM nonsense.
dreamz
11 May 16 #6
What does it mean by win 7 and win 8?
thel33ter to dreamz
11 May 16 #8
Comes with 8 installed but the ability to downgrade to 7 I assume.
mbuckhurst to dreamz
11 May 16 #9
Usually that means the license for Win 8 is also valid if running Win 7, to be honest sticking with 8 would be pointless, you'd be better downgrading or upgrading to 10 (if the free upgrade is still available).



Lol, if you're keeping the machine near a power outlet or don't plan on using it for transatlantic flights, then i7 is probably good enough, benchmarks seem to suggest for single threaded workloads the 5Y71 version is actually almost as good as this i7 (25% slower if multithreading), but for less than 1/3 the TDP, not only for battery consumption, this is also significant in terms of heat. I've got both an i7 laptop and core M tablet, for day to day use (not encoding video or playing games) they seem comparable.

Personally I think this is almost the optimum tablet/laptop configuration, I almost always have my tablet attached to the keyboard, the extra screen size will be helpful running at that resolution - Windows scaling really isn't that great for high resolution smaller screens. You'll take a weight penalty and battery life will be lower but a pretty nice machine for the money.

mike
thel33ter
11 May 16 #7
Is there anyone who owns one of these who can comment as to the battery life? Reviews don't really say anything conclusive. Also I've read the screen isn't particularly good? Still tempted for the price.
trusar
11 May 16 2 #10
Dont trust BOTASOJ, he lies a lot. I know him personally.
Nexusfifth
11 May 16 #11
At this price I would probably rather go for an xps 13, it is actually lighter and smaller than this, albeit not convertible.

You can pick a new one for 800£ in a recent deal or refurbs from Dell from 500£ (the old gen was 450£ cheapest I have seen).

Not saying this is a bad deal or machine, as ThinkPad it probably has really good build quality, but I would personally go that route or buy a yoga 700 for less than half price of this if you want a convertible.
Boffy
11 May 16 1 #12
I use one of these. It seems a good price, with good build quality and reasonable battery life. However, the screen quality is poor (an inferior screen coating), the touchscreen erratic and it is too heavy to use comfortably as a tablet.
ik097
11 May 16 #13
i wish i had that money i would buy this right now
samiraamassoul
11 May 16 #14
specs hot but lenovo you know the build is going to be cheap!!!
Alansmithee to samiraamassoul
13 May 16 #15
Never had a problem with thinkpad build quality (rather than their consumer stuff) - indeed the reason they stay so popular with programmers and computer types is how long they last.
Spod
13 May 16 #16
So what spyware have Lenovo installed this time?
They hav been caught 3 times so far - see http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html
I wouldn't trust my data to a Lenovo after all that without a complete install from scratch.
Astec123
13 May 16 1 #17
Do you own a computer, device or software made by;

Dell - http://boingboing.net/2015/11/23/not-just-lenovo-dell-ships-co.html
HP - https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2016/04/25/critical-flaws-hp-data-protector/
Toshiba - http://www.pcworld.com/article/3012061/security/vulnerabilities-found-in-lenovo-toshiba-dell-support-software.html
Asus - http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/asus-router-security-hack.html
Acer - http://thehackernews.com/2011/06/40000-users-data-source-codes-server-of.html
Windows - http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/windows-security-update.html

I could do for many others, they have all been embroiled in various things that mainstream press would be able to make a big issue out of and that's just a quick hack and slash job. If I had the time and interest in going into depth I could easily make a much longer list. You need to open your eyes that the mainstream media tends to want to be anti China, Lenovo being a Chinese firm. I almost guarantee that you saw Superfish in the mainstream news. I guarantee some of the arguably much bigger security issues that have hit in recent years you won't have seen on the pages of the Guardian, The Times, The Sun and the TV news. (I've tried to use recent examples from the last 12 months just to highlight the point, if I wanted to go for the biggest for the various companies I would feel I'm sensationalising it just like the press do).

Furthermore, while Lenovo bundled the software, they didn't develop it and just like software such as Nero, Symantec software the company that supplies it has an agreement to offer the software on the product being sold. The expectation being that the code is secure. Lenovo/Dell/HP/ASUS etc don't check the code, they expect it to be up to scratch. The same as you as an end user expect it to be.

Security flaws and vulnerabilities pop up on a regular basis and arguably there have been in the last 5 years a heck of a lot of other security flaws that end users generally wont have seen. The key matter is how firms deal with the aftermath of the discovery of a flaw.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1319282-year-in-review-the-7-biggest-security-flaws-of-2015

http://marcrogers.org/2015/02/19/will-the-madness-never-end-komodia-ssl-certificates-are-everywhere/

I will end on the topic of Superfish and how Lenovo got a PR nightmare but all the other companies effected pretty much got off without a word being said about them outside of mentions in articles of a more technical nature eg.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/ssl-hijacker-behind-superfish-debacle-imperils-big-number-of-users/
Liverpool_Bear
14 May 16 #18
Hot from me.
Spod
15 May 16 #19
There's a big difference between security flaws being found and bundling software which turns out to be spyware. Lenovo have been caught 3 times in 1 year - and that's just the ones we know about. That's a shocking record. So I stand by what I said - I wouldn't trust a Lenovo with its bundled software. I would do a Windows install from scratch.
Astec123
15 May 16 #20
Please tell me what make and model of computer you use.
Spod
15 May 16 #21
Home build deskside with CentOS Linux 7.
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