£100 for just a controller....

The industry has lost its mind....

When you are losing a battle and losing it bad this seems like a silly move....

I know it's not new news but still...

No matter how good the controller...

A "deal" at £100!

Pah

£20 just for some honey

£20 just for an hdmi cable

£75 Just for a keyboard

£300 just for a kettle

ETC..

yawn

Didn't realise Microsoft were forcing you to buy it, i think the standard controller for £30 is what you want, this is a pro controller for the hardcore gamer.

Bargain. I love mine. Playing with the normal xbox and playstation 4 controllers after playing with this feels like your playing with the player 2 pad you had in a draw for when you mates came over back when you were a kid.

Thanks, did you get an email when it was dispatched?

Two days with the free delivery

How long does delivery take? I have ordered one a couple of days ago but the status is "Confirmed"

Got my controller yesterday
Quality is next to none
But is it worth £70 more than a basic xbox one cotroller
Well gonna play some division today and have a feel to see how it compares to my ds4 controller
But got to admin when i was messing around with it last night on my laptop i was playing black ops 3 on ps4 and keep picking up the elite controller
The weight diffrance is huge
Not sure which one i prefer just yet

bye your majesty. long live the king of everything!

"summoned" - lol.

"Angry" - lol. Do I seem angry to you? I'm laughing at you. Have a great life. Get out a bit more. Bye.

Its a saying dude, its not dissimilar to pot calling kettle black, might be regional.
i'm asking a simple question, why do you care so much? in what way does this effect you? how do my posts impact on your life?
I left this thread buy YOU summoned me back in post #261
I haven't been laughing at you, I have worried why you seem to be getting so angry buddy.
you may want to pop to the Drs and get a blood pressure test, no one should be getting this worked up over someone posting on forums.
what you may want to realise also is that you don't decide who has a right to post. you seem to have a superiority complex, once you realise you can't control everything maybe you will be happier.

If you honestly feel I am breaking some sort of law by posting in a forum then print out my posts and take them to the police, I'm sure they will take it seriously if the king of everything makes a complaint. no doubt its treason that I have spoken to you as an equal. thank god we don't have a death penalty, I may get out in 20 years with good behaviour.

I'm enjoying these definitions for what a hardcore gamer is. Apparently there is no set definition so nobody can really say what makes a hardcore gamer without it being only their opinion.

Console gamers, your argument is invalid.

Make you out to be the bad guy? What on earth are you going on about? I'm asking a simple question. How does this effect you? In any way, how does this have any impact on your life? How long have you waffled on on this thread? I don't care at all. Like I said a while back, I've been laughing at you. But you're just boring me now.

why do you care so much?
honestly don't try to make me out to be the bad guy, especially when you are doing the same.
why do you care if I point out Scuf lies?

But if you are not buying it and have no interest in it, why do you care so much? Move on. It's not the first time marketing bumph has lied/twisted the truth to sell items. It won't be the last. Get over it.

You didn't read so you don't know, I could repost if you like so you can say tl:dr again if you want.
if you read it you would understand its more about the lies they try to sell us.

Are these actually any good?

I second that.
hardcore needn't play as part of a league, they can but its not a requirement.
it is a requirement for pro or semi pro but not everyone in a league can be classed as that either.

A hardcore gamer needn't have multi monitor set up. if anything is almost a requirement monitor wise its a TN screen, these have better refersh rate and response time however have less faithful colour replication than IPS (except a few very high end TN's)
there is no requirement to play a range of games, many hardcore players play very few games regularly and instead focus on one or 2. (
a hardcore gamer needn't play games away from the mainstream, playing less popular games makes you no more hardcore, hardcore is the way you play the game. if less popular games were more hardcore then Leisure Suit Larry Box Office Bust would be classed as hardcore gaming not softcore porn.
A game doesn't have to be exclusive to PC to be hardcore, games such as League of legends can be played hardcore, if tomorrow they released a console version would it suddenly become not hardcore?

I'm disturbed that its not ok to play 1st person on pad but it is ok to play 3rd person? the arguments for pad or mouse for these is the same. the control system is exactly the same, its just a different view.

Now I get you said by your definition, but your reasoning is flawed.

I am for some reason weirdly tempted to get this, I don't need it, it's not really worth the money for me as I don't play the XB1 all that much but something in me wants it. If they had included a play and charge kit I probably would have caved but £100 on a pad and still have to buy batteries for it is taking the mic I feel.

i disagree.

Never heard the one about a poor workman blaming his tools then...?

A real hardcore gamer doesn't need a fancy controller to get the most out of his/her games.

A hardcore gamer (by my definition) would be someone who plays frequently as part of a league, and will also play games which are away from the mainstream (e.g. arma 3 with some heavy mods and tweaks).

They will also spend insane amounts of money on their gaming kit, consoles being inferior - a true hardcore gamer will favour a custom built PC with multi screen monitors and some serious audio.

They will also play a range of complex & highly competitive games only available to the PC format.

In fairness, they may resort to a gamepad for driving and 3rd person games. But they are useless for Strategy and 1st person.

Anybody well versed in both control methods will confirm this.

Most of the hundreds of hours spent gaming will be with a Keyboard/Mouse.

All hail the PC gaming master race :man::man::man:

And Hardcore PC Gamers will not use a gamepad! :wink:

What even is a hardcore gamer? Who decides what makes a hardcore gamer?

I would feel ridiculous referring to any of my hobbies as hardcore nevermind the hobbies i can do in my underwear.

And yes syst3m i mixed up what you were actually talking about, i thought you meant responses to deals, my fault for only glancing at your responses while at work.

Hardcore gamers play whatever the hell they like.

Then use this on a PC :smiley:

Actual gamers play on whatever they want to at any given time.... PC for shiny graphics, console for pick up & play when sitting on the sofa, mobile when away from the others. The obsession with telling people what to do/play/own in gaming is such an utter, complete waste of everyone's time... :man:

Hardcore gamers do not play on consoles.

lol, the very thought of that, just blew my mind!

Maybe they are buying it to use on PC...

Wow! It still controls video games, what a rip off! I suppose it makes you play better

This isnt a basic xbox one controller tho
Its the elite version

Cold, I've seen xbox one controllers for £35!

What makes a deal hot is completely subjective. That's the point of the website.

Your choice mate
Why drive an astra when a corsa is cheaper
Why fly with brithish airways when easyjet is cheaper
Its your own choice
Hot uk deals is about deals not what people think of the price of a product
This is a hot deal
£10 cheaper than anywere else
Fact

Oh and heat added......obviously

Ordered and shipped same day! Great price! Cant wait till it comes.

I wouldn't either. It's not produced for us :smiley:

It seems crazy to me, absolutely crazy! I wouldn't even pay three figures for any controller, flight stick, racing wheel even though I do own one of each

Why post something like this. What's the point? Microsoft created a more premium controller for those that want one. If you don't just ignore it...

Quick, someone bring out a £200 controller for the mugs, you'll make a killing!

tl;dr

I'm sure it was an awesome story though. Why do you even care so much?

how much, double Pah

Got one for use with my PC. It's awesome, but yes, expensive. Whether or not you think it's worth it is up to you. If you want an Xbox controller but don't want to pay for the better version buy the original, which is also miles better than the crummy PS4 controller IMO. You get what you pay for in this case

£100 for just a controller....

The industry has lost its mind....

When you are losing a battle and losing it bad this seems like a silly move....

I know it's not new news but still...

No matter how good the controller...

A "deal" at £100!

Pah

I read about 9 pages before I gave in. Is there are Hardcore test I need to pass before I am allowed to buy one of these? Just asking as I play games every day (finally got round to Dark Souls 2 at the mo) but I am not sure I want a £100 controller so I must not be hardcore enough and must just be a filthy casual.

Heat from me. Incredibly well built. It's great to have the option of this versus the original. Being on the hate, but £100 isn't huge amount of money. A round if drinks for 6 people costs £40 in a London bar. Welcome to 2016.

Infact prefer my ds4 controller
Always been a sony guy but with my old laptop i used a 360 controller
New laptop fancy something diffrent
Atm im using my ds4 and steam but cant get used to the steam

Actually I would more disagree with both his and Scuf's claim
Their website says
Endorsed by the Leagues.
Trusted by the Pros.
Over 90% of Pro Gamers use SCUF.

Again poor choice of words, here is how to fix it
Endorsed by the Leagues.
Trusted by the Pros.
Over 90% of Pro CONSOLE Gamers use SCUF.

Makes it more believable.

Sure as dog eggs never seen anyone playing LoL, DOTA, SC II, or WoW on a pad.

All in all if you look at the top 10 games by prize money, number of tournaments per game, or by pro gamers in the tournaments consoles don't even figure into it unless there is some obscure CS:GO tournament for Xbox 360 somewhere, seriously that's the only game that has a semi modern counterpart on a console.

then if we add all the players competitively playing CoD and Halo's (multiple versions) that sit in the top 10-20 most competitively played games together it is only about 30% of the number of players playing LoL, honestly the CoDs and Halos added together only just nudge out Nintendo's Smash Brothers for number of gamers.
now please be aware I haven't even pointed out that CoDs status isn't for purely consoles either.
yes that's right some tournaments are console some are pc, honestly I'm not sure how the CoD division of professional gamers between PS4, Xbox One and PC is split but even if we assume all were on console (they aren't) there are still more pro gamers, pro gaming tournaments, and pro gaming cash up for grabs on the PC

No re-read what I said, I didn't at any point say PC's were better before I get another load of crap about something I said.
I merely point out you can not as Scuf claim say 90% of pro gamers use their pads, or as user cod said
"It's a Pro controller, like the SCUF controllers are. Those are used by pro-gamers, and almost every single pro-gaming team."
Almost every pro gaming team? think not.
some pro gaming teams? sure why not.
The minority of pro gaming teams? that's also true.
The majority of CONSOLE gaming teams? hell could be true, I could believe it now I added "console" to the claim.

Wild claims of every single pro gaming team using them are inaccurate.

pfft

That gave me a good laugh. No pro / hardcore gamer is going to use a controller.

Heat added, wanted to get one of these for a while :smiley:

Am I too late?

Lol Such Troll :stuck_out_tongue:

I am not the target market for this product, so will hold my piece. But, anyone remember the Street Fighter arcade stick? That was around this price point and only really used for one game!!

Your wrong
I have a steam controller its pants
Getting this lol

Voted hot

God knows why

Breaking News: Youngsters complain that they cannot afford a deposit for a house and it's everybody else's fault.

Meanwhile...

Good deal, maybe when it's around £70 I will get it

Here's the idiocy... Some moron will buy this thinking they'll be better at FIFA. They'll lose due to EAids / glitches / scripting, and will get angry and throw this pad to the wall. Congrats idiot, you just lost £100

How quick do Gamestop normally dispatch?

Why are people justifying their purchase to others.

So what if it feels a million times better. The average gamer isn't going to care or want to spend £100+ on a controller.

A real hardcore gamer would be investing in a PC anyway :P /troll.

All the people bitching about the price of this are missing the point of it. It's a Pro controller, like the SCUF controllers are. Those are used by pro-gamers, and almost every single pro-gaming team. They give an advantage in game reaction times, which, when you're up against some of the best players in the world on twitch games like Call of Duty (for example), can be the difference between winning and losing. And the prize money in pro-gaming is getting pretty big.

Sure, not everyone who uses a SCUF or an Elite is a pro-gamer. Not everyone who wears a pair of Adizero F50 football boots is Messi. Not everyone who wears a pair of NIke Airs is MIchael Jordan. Anyone arguing that nobody should buy a pro controller should argue nobody shoulg buy F50s or Airs.

Heat added, since it's a good price, compared to the normal price.

100 beans for a controller. Gaming has lost its marbles.

Would never pay this much for a controller, granted it's meant to make you play better and i would consider myself a hardcore gamer but still cant justify spending £100 on it. Remember you can change the buttons around in the xbox accessories app, its what i use and it helps alot for FPS such as BO3.

What exactly is the difference with this over a 'normal' controller.
Worlds gone mad!

bloody hell!!

How do you 14 year olds get someone to buy you a £100 controller?!?!?

Haven`t you guys got anything better to do ? haven`t I ?

Scuf was successful and MS saw the opportunity to make money.

OK

number one thing to improve when selling an improved peripheral for gaming? response rates as the faster the game responds to your command the better.
can it be done? yes.
has it been done? no

forget pc, forget all else, just focus on this, Microsoft could easily have achieved 2ms on a wireless connection to this pad. this pad sports the same 8ms connection that the normal pad does. the fact is if one thing was going to improve gaming performance it would be decreasing the time between pressing a button and getting a response in game to that.
again I was refuting the claim its a hardcore gaming pad, its no more hardcore than the standard pad.

to sell it as a hardcore gaming pad is misleading.
to sell it as a high quality pad isn't.

its not worth it price as a hardcore pad
its subjective as to if its worth its price as a high quality pad, I could understand a person paying for it then.

seriously if you cant get my point, that I was correcting it being referred to as a hardcore pad. even with the facts, and trust me response rates are the number one consideration for pro gamers.

and if you still don't get it my problem is with the use of it being described as hardcore.
here is the dictionary definition of hardcore
oxford
The most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement:
‘there is always a hard core of trusty stalwarts’

dictionary.com
unswervingly committed; uncompromising; dedicated:
a hard-core segregationist.

Cambridge
[S, + sing/pl verb] (also hard-core) a ​small ​group of ​people within a ​larger ​group, who ​strongly ​believe in the group's ​principles and usually have a lot of ​power in it:
The hard ​core of the ​party has not ​lost ​sight of the ​original ​ideals.

Or more appropriately to how hardcore is used in gaming terms.

onlineslangdictionary.com
•To be exactly what you claim to be and never change. To be unrelenting and uncompromising

onlineslangdictionary.com I normally wouldn't use but this is online slang we are dealing with.

hardcore it isn't, high quality I can concede.

I'm fine with it being sold on its ACTUAL benefits not on crazy baseless claims.

For xbox it is. Yes. We have been over this quite a few times now. Compared to the stock controller this is an elite pad. What you consider to be a hardcore gamer, again, is subjective. Hardcore console gamer maybe. I get the point that a true hardcore gamer would use a pc. But what if that very same gamer has an xbox also and wants a better pad? Ergo, this pad is for a hardcore gamer.

I'll repeat what I said up there. I can't stop laughing at you. You've provided some light entertainment that's about it. You should go and find a post for a sports model of a car. Have a rant how they aren't a sports car and people should buy a Porche or a Ferrari. That's essentially what you've done here.

lets take this all the way back to the comment I replied

this is the comment I replied to
"Didn't realise Microsoft were forcing you to buy it, i think the standard controller for £30 is what you want, this is a pro controller for the hardcore gamer."

This all sprung from me refuting someones claim its a hardcore gamers pad. is this or is this not a hardcore gaming pad?

I'm not upset buddy.
you seem to be

ok another insult from you, well it speaks to your character not mine.

Asking if someone has been drinking is not an insult, I could have questioned intelligence but I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed drink may have been the cause.
Yes I did wonder why people with out enough cash to buy a proper machine would waste money on a pad. if you think "poor people" is an insult that speaks to your own discrimination of the poor, I don't see poor as an insult, I have been poor myself in the past, I'm offended you would imply there is something wrong with people who have been or are poor.

I get personal preference, you really only seem to have focused on that point. at no point did I tell anyone to throw away a console and get a pc. seriously man if you have a point make it a relevant one. My point has been and always will be its not worth the money its sold for if it is being sold as an elite gaming pad as the specs don't support it. Its being sold as something for a pro gamer, a pro gamer wouldn't take it seriously. A pro gamer wouldn't take a console seriously, and that's the point. consoles are something to play for fun, that's ok but don't sell me an donkey and tell me its a stallion.

If you really cant get it now there is nothing more I can say to you but honestly ask yourself if your insults you like to make couldn't be more aptly a reflection of your own problems, or perhaps you just cant admit to being wrong as you have some sort of chip on your shoulder.

there is no need for you to get so aggressive on hot deals buddy.

This is coming from the same person who asked if someone had had an alcoholic drink before 12 or if they didn't understand the difference between 2 words and also saying that people who have consoles can't afford PC's.

I didn't TELL anyone anything. I said perhaps it's time to grow up a little. Implying you are being childish (which you are). You also don't seem to grasp personal preference. So I pointed that out. If that offends you maybe you shouldn't leave the house. There are people that use bad words out there.

You keep mentioning lag and PC gaming and keyboards and I don't care. I really don't. None of the people buying these controllers care. Jump down from that horse of yours.

telling people to grow up is an insult.
now you are on about metal capacity.
you lower yourself when all you could do is insult.
You seem to have missed the point, Microsoft are miss selling this as for elite gaming so no matter what you pay its miss sold. No elite or hardcore gamer would use something with a whole 8ms lag.
8ms its not an elite pad, most hardcore gamers would scoff at 4ms.
If they called it the "Xbox One not cheap feeling pad with a few gimmicks" then that would be fine but seriously they cant charge £100 or £120 for its gaming stats.
now if they rename it as I suggested then they wouldn't be misleading people and people could make an informed choice as to if they wanted to pay £100-£120.

Where was the insult? What have I said that could possibly offend you? I don't have to justify anything to anyone. I play what I want. Use whatever controller I want. I play PC as well as console. I also have the mental capacity to understand personal preference. You've had a right rant on this thread. We get it. Mouse and keyboard > pad for FPS. People still want to buy an elite pad. What is your problem with that?

I wasn't being serious, hence the wink.

I also have a stylish home (IMO) so don't want my lounge cluttered with a PC.

It's ridiculous they charge this price, this controller should come with the console. It's like saying "We bundled a crap controller with the system, give us an extra 100 pounds and you too can top a scorechart on (Insert game here).

You can get these for slightly less on Amazon can't you?

I get your opinion. I just don't see where you get your superiority complex from.

You can't use response rates to deals as a basis for your opinion in the same comment as saying popular consensus doesn't make something right.

Talk talk talk, don't chat **** until you touch one. Same reason people buy £200 keyboards, build quality and extra features.

Such a big ignoramus to think the only difference is the "Elite" brand.

well you got me on my grammar, to be honest I'm questioning it but painkillers will do that to you but that's here nor there.
unfortunately for you popular consensus doesn't make something right, for many years the majority of people believed the world was flat, it didn't cause the world to become flat to match their beliefs.
I was simplifying with they are our ancestors but we do share an ancestry with apes, if you don't believe that I suppose you must be Christian and I really don't want to argue against a religion as people get upset about that.

If you need enlightening look at response rates for wireless ms pads vs keyboards, monitors vs tvs, high end gaming pcs ram, cpu, graphics specs vs Xbox One. if you still don't get it then finally ask yourself why do pc gamers use keyboard and mouse over pad when they have the option, why do xbox players use pad... they have no option

If my mate didn't know how to use a and an in the correct places or actually thought that an ape was an ancestor to a human i would disassociate myself from him. But I'm harsh.

A better analogy would be you turning up with a blonde and me telling you that you were no longer my friend because i only like red heads. Or my mate turning up with a guy and me not letting him in because i like woman and only what i like should be allowed.

You constructed your analogy based on the idea that one way is inferior but that is only your opinion and not an opinion shared by many people. I enjoy PC gaming, i also enjoy console gaming, i enjoy board games and card games. Which is better is all a matter of opinion.

Looks like the deal is over. My order went through as a preorder but just got posted

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-Deluxe-ROB-the-Robot-Set-Boxed-Rare-/131773631777?nav=SEARCH

£200 starting bid...

I remember crying an awful lot on more than one occasion I wanted this so bad...

Cost more than a car then, costs more than a car now!

to be fair the chimp analogy was spot on, an xbox one is a pc from years ago a apes are a ancestor to a human. a pad is an uncivilised way to play an fps, this sells itself on benefits that fps players are looking for.
if your mate turned up with chimp for a date you would think him insane and hopefully disassociate yourself, if he turned up with a shaved chimp you would think hes really lost the plot again really hope you would disassociate yourself, if he turned up with a woman/man you wouldn't be surprised as it was the right choice to make.

under what?

to be fair the chimp analogy was terrible, and i like PC gaming.

100£ ?
What's that then?
Lol
Heat♨

Well price increased out of stock now

you are so full of insults, because you cant justify your console habit you have to insult others?
honestly next you will call me a noob or something, maybe a racial or homophobic slur?

i voted hot though because its the best price.

No trolling here. Just can't understand why you'd waste your time commenting on something you don't like or want. Just move on and understand that everyone is different. If it's being voted hot then people want it/like it/think it is good value for money. Oh dear. It doesn't pander to your tastes. Everyone else must be wrong. Also, that chimp analogy was terrible. Perhaps it's time to grow up a little.

As much as I game on PC, using controllers often, this one peripheral at this price still costs more than each of my peripherals. My mech keyboard, gaming mouse, condenser mic etc. Not cheap peripherals. I just can't justify this. I'd like one, but I'm not convinced.

Interesting thing, it looks like many people are just assuming that those who find this price too high are people who simply can't afford it or don't have income they can consider disposable. I can afford this many, many times over and I'm sure many other skeptical people can, however not all people suddenly lose their personal perspective of value if they have money.

Seems to be "pre-order" now so OOS as such

It's the cheapest I've seen it new, regardless of whether or not I'd buy it. Heat from me. Not going to buy one myself but that doesn't stop it from being a good deal for someone who's interested in it.

That's the point of this place, right? Getting good deals for things you're interested in? Not passing judgement on if someone else is interested in that thing?

Ah, OK. Gotcha. :wink: To be fair, there have been some daft comments in here so trying to pick out the sarcasm is quite difficult.

Whoosh

I paid £101.88 on amazon warehouse it arrived and looked like it had been in a blender, ordered this for 1.88 less is a no brainer!!! Thanks :smiley:

Why is the title misleading? It says "Xbox One Elite Wireless Controller". That's what it is. And it has a picture of said controller next to it. Nothing misleading about it.

They're pretty good.

They definitely feel high quality and certainly feel a lot more substantial due to the additional weight.

In terms of features, how much benefit you'll get it likely whether you get along with the paddle style gameplay, as this is realistically the #1 upgrade from a gameplay perspective. Hair triggers can also do a small amount to improve your trigger response time/time between shots for semi-auto. I don't mind the paddles but have not used them enough for them to feel "natural", another friend uses them religiously and another friend again hates them and never uses them.

Some of the features which aren't as impressive as you might think - the different stick/d pad configurations. I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't just use the two short and indented sticks. You may be the exception, but for most people they end up using identical sticks to the original. Likewise one of the D-pads is horrible and I've not found anyone who uses it. Note when I say "anyone" I mean from a sample of 3-4 people!

I'd also note that the paddles can only be remapped to existing buttons and cannot function independently. Probably not a big deal for most, but I was hoping to use them for additional controls in elite dangerous as there just aren't enough buttons on the controller.

All in all it's a decent product and if you have the money to spend and give your xbox or PC controller enabled games a lot of love then I'd probably recommend it. I wouldn't say it will give gamechanging advantages though and you'll see little to no benefit in terms of performance if you don't use the paddles. But it is still a much nicer controller.

Ooh just like a console

I struggle to justify paying more than 10-20 quid for a game so obviously I wouldn't buy this. But I only play a couple of hours or so a week now..

Still makes me think who would pay so much for a controller...I mean the whole damn console, 1 standard controller and Forza Horizon 2 cost me just under £180.

Annoyingly tempted....
Anyone using one for driving games? I have G27 for playing on the PC and play most driving games on there but it would be nice to play occasionally on the xbox in the living room. I was tempted to switch to a G920 but lugging a wheel stand about every time I wanted would not be worth it. If these make enough of a difference than I may go for it.

Bargain. I love mine. Playing with the normal xbox and playstation 4 controllers after playing with this feels like your playing with the player 2 pad you had in a draw for when you mates came over back when you were a kid.

Because most of them are PS4 fanboys using it as an opportunity to bash the Xbone. You can bet your bottom dollar that if Sony released one, it would be "the best thing ever" regardless of price :smiley:

Can't believe there are so many moaning about the cost of it. It you want a better keyboard, you buy a mechanical keyboard for around 100, if you want a good mouse you spend the same. A good wheel can be well over that but worth it if you play racing games a lot. A good remote such as a harmony is almost essential to some, but again costs nearly a ton. The best of breed cost more but in my experience are usually worth it. why is it not worth more to get better. Get over yourselves, it's there as an option for those who want better, then that is a better freedom of choice. I probably won't buy one as I don't use mine enough, but I came to see what people thought of theirs instead, I had to wade through pages of irrelevant trolling and moaning.

I already have if you read my post

I voted hot misunderstanding it was just for a controller! :neutral_face:

Can you elaborate why I wouldnt have my steam machine (or custom build compact PC) which as you have admitted is the same size as Xbox One on my TV stand ?
Also speaking of "thinking through that comment through have you?" I suggest you familiarize yourself with the concept of steam machines before teaching me what peripherals PC does require :smile:
#PCMR

What's the RRP for this controller then?

You haven't thought that comment through have you? You will need a monitor, keyboard and mouse, most people have a PC which takes up room, yes desktops are about the same size as an xbox one but you wont have it in your tv stand along with your dvd player etc

I'm guessing all the "why not just buy a decent pc gaming rig" comments are from people that are either young and still at home with mum/dad or are not married with kids yet!! ;-)

I want to do my gaming on a big screen sat on a comfy sofa and trying to keep the Mrs happy with a massive PC running in the corner of the lounge would never work. :smile:

nope, read the post because I couldn't understand how something so over priced was so hot.
to me it seems simple its like the choice between dating a chimp, a shaved chimp, or a human female. the shaved chimp is still a chimp.
PC master race is neither original or intelligent as far as insults go.
you gave me an option of being a troll or needing to justify my pc, to be honest someone such as you has to vilify me to justify using a console and you troll with clichés.

I was going to say "this is crazy money for a controller" but i would spend £100 on a gaming mouse for my computer so i guess i am crazy as well then...

It would be a deal if the £20 honey was reduced from £40

A £100 controller is the hottest deal of the day :confused:

Nothing like a bunch of naysayers trying to tell others why a product can't be justified at the current unbeaten price. Yes, this is still teetering on an early adopters price. But this controller has a supreme build quality and lovely finish to it. You only need have it in your hand to see where the additional costs have gone in adding value to an Xbox controller. I've just bought one. Not only because I can afford it, but because I want the most ergonomic controller that feels solid in hand and because I want to remap some buttons in FPS games. All in £100, I want that sleek beauty in my hands the next time I pick up a controller!

waow. wat a rip

Voted hot due to price but got to say, I didn't find the controller to be that much better. But at the same time, I don't claim to be a pro-gamer.

I instantly regret chucking my £35 controller across the living room in anger, I imagine I'd be chasing after this one *insert slow-mo diving gif here*

yeah I didn't get it either.... why buy a £100 controller for a pc. the people this controller is aimed at is FPS players really, while I admit a game pad has its uses on a pc like driving and emulators this pad is really for fps and the standard one could be used for those purposes. if they are using this pad for fps on pc they need psychiatric help as the reason publishers and console manufacturers always state not making games cross compatible with pc is they know it wouldn't be fair to pit pad vs keyboard and mouse.

Another person that doesn't understand preference. If you are a member of the "PC master race" and have such dislike for consoles, why are you commenting on a post for a controller for xbox let alone reading the post? Skip it, move on and don't waste your time with snarky comments. Are you trying to convince yourself that your precious PC was the best choice? Or are you just a troll?

Will it work on a Windows PC? I have the original 360 pad for Windows and would like to upgrade

room for what ?
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam_machines/

100 quid for a controller, the question not the cost, but is it that good ? I know G logictech driving wheel Series are amazing and worth every penny. Some question 30-35 for controller that costs a 1 pound to make and pro series controller that probably costs under a fiver.... But the question remains is it that good.

Its a good deal so ive voted hot yet although it looks very nice and the customising features on it look good i just couldn't see myself paying out so much for a pad :confused:
Think i'll just stick with my existing pads that i already have that work fine for me :smiley:

"a work of art" "for harcore gamers" comparable to a super car.
And I gave up half way down the thread. It makes a computer man go up down left right and jump. Microsoft dream customers! stick a 'pro' in front or behind any accessory and suddenly it's worth 5 times more.
surface pro anyone? how about an iPad pro? both comparable with Ferraris obviously. Or the new Ferrari pro.

prefer Scuf myself

:laughing:

'Only play consoles as they are too poor to buy a PC' :laughing:

Good to see some people (not all unfortunately) can disagree with my post with some intelligence and without insults.

I will say that it's probably a generation thing. I'm my day it was the casual gamer that bought "turbo pads" and non standard controllers whilst "hardcore" gamers wanted the standard pad as anything else was seen as cheating.

With online being seen as such a big thing these days I guess people will spend money to get an advantage.

Either way good to see some positive reviews for the premium controller - I'm surprised people saying its heavier... I'd have thought it would be lighter.. Either way thanks for the polite replies.

There's a market for these controllers, third party modified pro controllers have existed for years (Scuf, Burn controllers, Sharq) but nothing official. Modified controllers start at £100 and can go as high as £150.

The elite controller is an official alternative to scuf controllers, it's well built, using a metal for the frame and analog sticks instead of plastic.

Everything about the controller is customisable, you can change thumb stick types, reprogram the back paddles, change the trigger press length, set sensitivity curves for the thumbsticks, reprogram what every button on the controller does and save two presets on the controller itself. At £100 or even the original retail price of £130,this controller does alot more per £ than the other modified controllers, and that's why it's a bargain.

It's a quality product for the niche it serves, like mechanical keyboards or gaming mice, sure you could buy a regular mouse and keyboard but they don't give you that competitive edge that gaming peripherals do.

Ha too poor to buy a pc, its all about personal preference mate not how much money someones got, I could afford to buy a gaming PC tomorrow if I wanted too but I don't as I don't have the room and because I'm happy with my consoles, you are obviously a PC gamer and prefer to use a mouse and that is your choice. I think you need to look at scuf controllers which are way more expensive than this which is just a modified standard controller, and just to note and if you read above comments people have said they have bought this to use for their PC!!!!

Probably better spending the £20 to get it from Amazon. Mine just went faulty with the left analogue stick and Amazon sent me a new one out next day delivery with no questions asked and no fuss. Then gave me a month to send them back the broken one.

Got mine at christmas. paddles were annoying to begin with, I found myself getting frustrated at losing whilst trying to get the hang of them, so I kept taking them off and just playing with the normal controller.
After about 3 weeks I got used to using 2 paddles and now I always use them. 4 is overkill in my opinion.

The customisation is really good for me personally, being able to change the way an analogue stick reacts for games like Geometry Wars, and have the paddles for my Gears of War really makes it more comfortable playing.

One downside for me is having the shorter trigger bursts can sometimes be a pain in the backside. Playing Fifa and not understanding why your players are running slow to then find out it is because the trigger wont go down all the way annoys me. You can just change it back, but it's just a bit of hassle to remember all the time.

I'd personally love to have one of these. For me £100 is a bit too much but when the price goes to around 60-70 I'll bite.

Absolutely no idea why there are so many people on moaning about it though. I think it looks and feels amazing. I also love the original controller which doesn't do anything wrong. This is just a bit fancier.

I use the xbox one controller for pc gaming because it's much more comfortable and I grew up using consoles so prefer a controller to keyboard and mouse. I don't play competitively online and I'm sure I would get smashed if I did.

Although, I do have a razer blackwidow chroma Keyboard and chroma mouse which look great and I got a really good deal on from a friend. I paid more because they light up and look pretty (yep I'll admit it!) . I do also prefer the mechanical keyboard for typing. I don't see this controller as being any different. I could buy a cheap keyboard and mouse but for the money I can have something which looks awesome and is more comfortable to use every day. That's a deal for me. Same holds true for this controller, even though my biting point is lower.

Gaming is all about the expensive peripherals. It always has been. Light guns, guitars, fishing controllers, steel battalion, rumble packs, steering wheels, memory cards........

It is nice to have the option rather than none at all. Not happy with the price? Stick with the regular controller which works perfectly well. This is still the cheapest it's been currently so I'll vote hot for that.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Actually, they're different.

Makes no sense, pay extra for a controller for hardcore gamers? they may as well use the normal one as if they were bothered about precision firing faster and all those other claims it makes then surely they would get a PC so they could use the most precise weapon of all... mouse!
I mean the only reason they play consoles is they are too poor to buy a pc so how have they got the money to spend £100 on a pad?

I read a little about it and can see where it would be better than the stock Xbox One Controller.

Spoken like a true Pro/Underground console gamer.

I was ready to splash on out on one of these until I tried a mates & it was terrible, it just doesn't work at all !!

We ended up taking off all the bits which didn't feel right or were pointless & it just rendered the pad a waste of time.

The lunar pad is miles better imo @ 70% cheaper.

Save your money they are bringing out a new elite pad that's £150. It's got a built in flesh light :confused:

not selling out instantly, has the novelty worn off??? maybe it'll come down in price now. I bought it in January and sent it back, no way is it worth £100 ... closer to £50-70 and i could justify it.

You didn't see that 'deal' a few weeks ago that site selling hdmi cables for like £8k!!!

Ha! You've just given me a huge dose of nostalgia with that remark about the master system 2...how young and naive I was :confused: well when it comes to it, I guess we are all suckers to consumerism and it's going to be a never ending cycle. Fair play to the op, best price for it right now - so heated, but it still grinds my gears that these companies treat us this way.

It wont unfortunately, unless people stop buying the various versions of the same console, but if that happened they will just bring out a totally new console (ps5 etc) to get the cash, its always happened in the console market and its got worse, i remember having a sega master system 2, which was an upgraded version haha

Too true! They know they can make a better product at the time but choose not to because that won't maximise their huge profits. They would rather shaft us mugs, give us something that's adequate to start with, then save the upgrades for later on. Bunch of swines! :man: don't see this trend ending any time soon :disappointed:

Thats consumerism for you, how many versions of ps3 or 360 did we have?

Sony, Microsoft all of them companies in the industry are at it. I wasn't singling anyone out. It's the same with added content for games now. Gone are the days of buying a game and that's it you have full access to everything in it. Don't get me wrong I love gaming, and these companies do alot of great things - however their greed is sickening and the majority of people just accept it. Both Sony and Microsoft will know from their rigourous testing before console release that their controllers are utter pudding - but they think sod it! They can have this now, then in a year or so we will roll out an improved one so we can make a tonne load more cash, and improve our fat bonuses. Shameless.

Cool story brah, whats your steam id maybe we can play rocket league together sometime :smiley:

These 'improved' controllers are what should be provided with the systems upon release and be standard. It's not like the manufacturers can't do that, no - they would rather have them in the pipeline and then milk the consumer for more cash if they wish to enjoy a better gaming experience. I understand this is a deal so heat for that, however I don't like greed demonstrated from huge corporations.

Oh I forgot enjoying a product and being objective makes people fanboys now. What a pointless term.

The elite controller is better in every way for any game that you want to use a controller for. It's not rocket science...

please tell me:

The elite controller is better at these games compared to the original controller :

As a playstation fanboy turned to pc gaming who has owned all xbox consoles its intersting to see how some people feel about xbox products

did you really "lmao" - dont think so.

ive got a camo xbox one controller ive used a few times on my pc.

i never actually see the elite control fanboys mention what games this controller is actually better for the player?

please tell me:

The elite controller is better at these games compared to the original controller :

That's funny because I own a gaming rig (as well as all current consoles) and I use controllers constantly on PC whether I'm playing Rocket League or something that isn't an FPS. But I forgot, FPS' are the only games people play...

The issue is the controller is better than the console. Use it on PC and all is justified..

They can use it for whatever game they wish to choose mate, if you want to play cod thats your choice :smile:

Yes, yes it does. Did you miss the part where I said compared?

Have you used an elite controller? No. So why are you even responding lmao.

"The regular controller compared feels cheap and tacky."

does it?

"hey already spent 100 million in R&D "

and still have to use AAA batterys in a controller in 2016,

£100 for any controller is actually not insane, as it's exactly the same as some people are driving Ferrari or Porsche and some people do drive Ford car, some people do use iPhone phone at £600+ and some people use just Samsung phone at £200, if you can't afford it's your problem and stop trolling about it.

This is such a dumb argument. If this is so much better why not replace the normal one? Maybe because this uses much higher quality parts and is way more expensive to produce? The regular controller compared feels cheap and tacky.

They look similar because they have the same basic shape, they already spent 100 million in R&D to get the ergonomics down, this is just has a much better build as well as paddles on the back. It's much cheaper than third party modified controllers that are lower quality but hey it can't be a good deal because it's expensive.

Smh some people.

Doesn't make sense to me, if you can afford to pay £100 for a controller that costs a few £ to manufacture, why would you be playing on the 720p box and not a gaming PC???

can someone explain how this is a deal? Just because this is the cheapest price it's been, doesn't mean it's worth it. I just don't see how 100 quid for a controller is worth it.

Yer cause pc gamers want to use a controller over keyboard and mouse for fps games

cause thats all this controller is for = call of duty.

"this is a pro controller for the hardcore gamer."

=

14yr old call of duty gamer

This basically says MS know how to make a good controller, but decide to give you a piece of garbage with the console.

Still uses the same stick components as the normal controllers which are prone to stick drift issues. I'd expect premium from a £100 controller.

Please stop comparing buying this controller to buying a Porsche/ Ferrari or a ford, it's a stupid comparison.

Don't really want to weigh in on the pricing debate....

But I didn't read it and thought that this was a good deal for the console! :smile:

but can i make toast with it?

£100 is insane for most of the population playing a video game. For those of us for whom £100 is nothing, they wont be playing video game right now or reading this post on HUKD.

HOT for the effort but not for the pricing.

That's a bit like saying a BMW 318i is the same as a BMW M3 because they look similar and are made in the same factory.

And whilst it saddens me to say this, £100 is sod all these days, a decent meal out costs more. I wouldn't buy this controller but I see the value for someone that could use it a lot.

I know it's reduced but £100 for a controller is still insane!

These will be £50 before you know it :wink:

ermmmm...just get a ps4... comes with " elite " control pad as standard

It exactly the same point, no one needs a luxury car but people buy them and pay a luxury price

I've had mine for about 2 months and absolutely love it. Everything about it is quality which is sadly lacking from most of the cheap Chinese crap we buy these days. As they say, you get what you pay for.

This is not aimed at casual gaming and many games you wont notice a difference. However in some games it makes a noticeable difference. The controller is how you interact with a game so directly impacts the experience so if you really enjoy your gaming why not get something better for the hundreds if not thousands of hours it will be used?

I use my Elite controller on both PC and One, if I broke it I would replace it but I will also say its not for everyone, it would be pointless for my wife to buy one with the games she plays

But it's the same concept.
Not comparing both. People pay more for quality and branding. Same goes for controllers.

this reads like a apple thread

I remember when Microsoft made gaming accessories for PCs. They cost a fortune to start off with then plummeted in value as no one bought them. Fingers crossed this follows in the same vein.

Excellent peripheral for the peasant with ideas above his station :smile::smile:

:smile:

How is this even a good deal? £100 for a controller? I know theyre extremely rare but still...

Screw it, ordered.

Thought that was an xbox one for 100, thought not bad...

lol at controller, stick to my gaming PC .

Think i'll wait until the elite II controller is released (and priced at £200) and bag this one for a fiver :stuck_out_tongue:

Seems like a lot to me, too. Maybe I'm just old.

Dont recall saying he didn't have right to his own opinion, isn't bullet9t9 allowed an opinion either? And calling him stupid? He was just making a point about why people buy luxury items over cheaper alternatives it was not a direct comparison

No he has compared a budget car to a premium car and a budget controller to a premium controller

My god....what does this control pad actually do if 99.95 is considered a bargain????

JB King for Super Famicom was £100 back in early 90's - so this is a steal by comparison

To those who are complaining about the price etc.

Why buy a fancy car when a micra will get you A to B

lol

that's his opinion... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Chill.

Great price for the best console controller I have ever used, worth every penny.

No one has answered the most important question. How does this hold up when thrown across the room in an angry rage while raging about how the lag is the problem?

Lol @ people winging about a £100 controller, are you living in a basement?

stop crying just don't buy it. What difference does it make to you what people spend their money on? It's a lot of money for a controller but it's a great piece of kit why not spend more time finding deals for cheap gamers?

1. health is more important than a controller.
2. overpriced
3. keyboards have multiple uses (i.e. gaming and productivity)
4. kettle is a misprice/unusual marketplace price which doesn't reflect actual value

It's £20 cheaper than normal price so that's what makes it a deal
Don't look at gaming keyboards and mice for PC you will have a heart attack

​Could be just 1-2 depending on the games. The full Division game is nearly £90 and destiny has cost £130 buying dlc on release.

A fancy controller for cost of single game ain't bad.

Do you own one of these? I guess you don't, I suggest you read what others have said who own one, they are made to high quality and is a premium product, i paid more than this for mine and its worth every penny. People don't realise this controller was not made for the casual gamer who plays games when they get the time, the market is aimed at the gaming enthusiast who plays games regularly. You may find the RRP for the standard controller to be £49.99 and whilst it can be had for around £30 it does not have the same build quality. Yes I do understand it is a lot for a controller, but if you want a premium product you pay a premium price for it. As others have mentioned to support this, why do people pay to drive a BMW car when they can get a Nissan micra for half the price? you may find is due to some people like a luxury product but this can be said about most things watches, tvs, mobile phones, cameras and the list goes on. If you have a hobby it usually is expensive. What im finding with this elite controller is people like yourself who obviously dont own one very quickly criticise the price. This controller does more than the standard controller and uses better components what makes you think it is not worth more than the standard controller? It will come down in price over time like most things im sure.

Rant over

Seems like a nice controller, shame about the console, Can this be used with the PC?

For a £100 quid I'd expect the durability to be top notch. Should feel like new, even after a few years. Every xbox controller I've had the springs in the analogue loosen quickly which is very annoying. Can anyone comment on how this elite controller fares on durability? Have the buttons or triggers lost some responsive? Do the analogue sticks centre themselves perfectly?

This is well worth £100. I bought the elite console for£350 and I would easily pay £100 for this control and I don't even use the paddles. It just feels so nice and heavier than a standard one. Wouldn't pay £100 for a 2nd one though just for other people to use. It's just like people spend £300 for an iPod when you can get other MP3 players for £100. It's a premium quality item.

Still doesn't justify spending £100 on it. How many XB1 game can you buy with that?

Can anyone in the know give me a breakdown as to what makes this controller so good / worth the money? Genuinely curious.

hot for the price paid RRP. I'm still not that good for owning one. only thing I've done is adjust the triggers for instant fire hoping my aim being slower is offset with immediate bullet dispatch

The best controller ever made - accept no substitutes! I don't!

thanks OP!!

Some people can afford it, some people can't. Those that can will buy it, those that can't deride it....
This controller is a work of art and Microsoft has invested hundreds of millions in it's design and manufacture and it's price point reflects the niche market that will buy it. I for one applaud their efforts. Thanks to the OP.

I am so tempted but can't justify this....Mind you, I once spent (i think) £30 on a zipstik for my Commodore 64 when I was a kid. that was loads back then. And I never regretted that purchase....so.....

Say what you like about whether a game controller is worth this kind of money or not, the fact of the matter is if this particular product is a lower price than elsewhere, and its something you want, then this is a deal. Ergo, heat.

One of the paddles on my Binatone Colour TV Game MK6 has finally worn out. Can I use this as a replacement?

I bought the more expensive, improved silver 360 controller.. Wasn't quite as much as this but was definitely worth the extra for how much use I got out of it.

Would buy this in a second if the Xbox was still my main console of choice but it's not.. A shame as even the Xbox One controller is 10 x better than the PS4 one. Not worth £100 when I only use the Xbox One for the odd exclusive game here and there though.

pretty much, premium product just different category

Heat added :stuck_out_tongue:. Wish Sony had something similar to this :neutral_face:

Very good price for this controller.

and miss the chance of a moment on the soap box?

This is the best controller I have ever used.

I'd like a controller with paddles like this one, can you tell me what price i am ok to pay without "massaging the ego of a company willing to exploit the consumer"?

I guess i'll just have to find some driftwood on the beach and whittle my own.

Is this a troll post? £100 for a controller haha, and people are actually saying it's a bargain. I've seen it all now.

this is the cheapest in stock price right now. I don't even own an xbone, nor do I consider myself a hardcore gamer but I spent nearly this on a 7.1 surround sound headset. I can see the appeal to hardcore gamers. same as PC gamers spending this and more on keyboards and mice. it's all relative.

Heat added, cheaper than a scuff controller if a little less customisable.

Its stupid that this isn't hot. A controller thats often hard to even get hold of. For less than retail. The price of the item itself should not even be in question. Just the fact that this is a good deal. You

HARDCORE!!! Fcuk yeah!!!! Merica!!!!!!!!!

Best controller EVER! I would never go back to the standard and this is well worth the price in my opinion! It's fantastic! I also reviewed it for my YouTube channel (DeeKay86) so check that if you want to know more about the controller. It really is excellent.

For perspective, I spent almost this much on a Gravis Firebird just to play a couple of flight sims 20 years ago. Every anecdote has an equal and opposite anecdote.

people voting down based on their options are being unfair to the poster. £99 for this controller Vs it's normal sales price is a great deal. There are lots of people that will have been waiting for < £100 to bite

I'm not disputing it's worth...but why couldn't this be the standard ? I remember the guy in game telling me internally the xbox one controller Is the same as the 360. So maybe they need to make this the "new " controller.

Worth every penny imo, had many xbox one pads and now i have the elite pad and i love it, wont be going back to the regular pads, its a good deal if you play games alot.

Some heated debate here..

So on a different note, are there any 3rd party controllers that work with the XB1, that are better than the standard controller? I'm looking for something a bit fancier but no idea regarding compatability..

have you looked under your bed? You should try keeping it in that nice case it comes with if you keep losing it.

joking aside, its in the design philosophy for me, they have spent a lot of time designing this controller, it feels and looks premium. My old controller feels like cheap tat next to it, considering I will be using this for next 5 years on PC / XBOX - £20 a year for an amazing controller.....no brainer for me.

Having used this since release i just can't see it.

its a good price for an elite controller. have some heat

this is excactly same deal as buying brand new Aston Martin for 60k
Yes you could buy Dacia Sander for 10% of that but the comfort of the ride wont be as good !

I bought this the other week for £95.
The build quality is fantastic and it is the best controller I have ever used and I go way back before consoles were born.
Using the old Xbox one pad now feels not very nice so the difference is very noticable.
Only controller I haven't used is a scuf pad so I can't say if it's better or not.
Is it worth £95 ? Possibly not if your a casual gamer or a kb/m player but if you game a lot and your exclusive to the controller then it is worth it.
The quality of this controller will last years so when you divide your game time over the life of the controller to purchase price then it's not a lot really. Heat added and if you buy it you won't regret it as I didn't and I'm a kb/m user

Load of **** controller this, over priced and overhyped. Classic placebo effect.

Having used both, I massively disagree with you. In my opinion the steam controller felt cheap and nasty.
Pretty much useless aswell. I never use mine. A standard controller is far superior. I only imagine it been any good for RTS games.

What does the OP have to do with it? :laughing:

then OP should have linked to those to make his/her point :wink:

Ok you get a lot of accessories with it etc etc etc but £100? ...c'mon. You can buy a console for £230. I'm not voting on this one.

Many premium items have:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/aston-martin-v8-vantage-roadster-drive-deal-88500-save-13-650-2284961 - Micra is cheaper.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/epic-australia-trip-perth-melbourne-great-ocean-road-sydney-just-1103-57pp-expedia-2311526 - A train to the local beach would only cost you a tenner.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/samsung-gear-vr-with-next-day-delivery-for-80-samsung-2367963 - Virtual Reality? Actual reality is FREE!

Etc.

Not for me but I know the advantages of owning something like this. Good deal and worth the money if you use it for what it's meant to be used for.

I would like one but just spend this much on a G920 logitech wheel. Tempting....

I bet my dog would still chew through it, although if I didn't leave controllers lying around...

Voted hot. It's a premium item so it has a premium price, no one is forced to buy it.

have any of those things you listed ever been considered a "deal" on hukd? "yawn"

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If you had one you'd understand the quality difference in this controller and how it takes the whole console to another level. For me, this alone makes me prefer the Xbox One over the Ps4 (although you do feel crippled going back to stock controllers). Basically you have no idea what you're talking about, go cry on a different forum. Heat.

This is crazy!
Whatever next? People spending more than a fiver on a watch?!
Heat added.

The elite controller definitely does have more to it - the materials are generally higher quality, it has additional features such as the paddles, hairlock triggers and magnetic components etc. Generally the weight of the controller is much more than that of the standard - although whether this is due to the additional components/material weight or this is weight deliberately added to give that impression, I couldn't tell you.

Is £100 a lot of money for a controller? Definitely, and I'm not entirely convinced that this controller justifies the money personally (despite owning one now). On the other hand, it will receive regular use over the next 4+ years (on both PC and Xbox), so if you view it that way it hardly seems like an outrageous monetary commitment, although again I accept you could likely do the same with the normal £30 controller.

The thing that I can't believe is that it still doesn't come with a build in battery.

Damn you, I literally bought mine two days ago. Oh well, I got it for £105 anyway, so no huge loss.

No I think what John is saying is that you have no interestin this post so why post a pointless comment on it. This is a good deal for this item. I don't think it is a good deal but I have voted hot as it is cheap if you wanted it. Whereas your comment is just pointless rubbish ie trolling

He does have a point though.

The Steam controller is £40 and far superior to this elite controller.

Troll

You spend £100 on controller makes you a ""hardcore" gamer??? Does it come with a wrist support....

Hardcore gamer - yawn

Heat added btw OP

Fair point.

Although I still find it strange anyone would defend such a pricing policy.

Whilst I can take some of those examples and explain how and why honey production techniques and size of company and their ethos' and quality of ingredients and parts alter the cost of a product....

Microsoft produce two items in (I am guessing) a very similar way under the same quality checks and similar qualified designers.... Yet whack "elite" on one... If this controller is so so much better and makes their console better why would they not replace it to be the standard one? If it's twice as good as the ps4 and Xbox one standard one I'd imagine that would be seen as a good way to claw back some sales in the battle they are losing no???

Or is it just a crude way to get gaming snobs to part with even more money :wink:

So glad I went for this when GameStop last had stock, so much better than the standard controller

ooooo tempting