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Wileyfox Swift 4G LTE Dual SIM Free Smartphone - White [2GB / 16 GB] £99.99 @ Amazon Deal of the day
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topss
29 Apr 16
Decent vfm 4G Dual Sim Phone - direct from Amazon.

Cyanogen 12.1

13MP primary camera,
5MP front camera

Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 410 8916

2GB / 16GB

Dual SIM functionality

MicroSD Slot

4G LTE

5" HD Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3 IPS Display

https://www.wileyfox.com/swift/
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Gollywood to gudyute
29 Apr 16 15 #2
​She knows....
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gudyute
29 Apr 16 #1
5 inches
Gollywood to gudyute
29 Apr 16 15 #2
​She knows....
zx636r to gudyute
29 Apr 16 1 #4
Girth?
Rys_Ochodzki
29 Apr 16 #3
Does the second SIM slot accept non 2G simcards (i.e. 3)?
Does it take 2 SIM cards and a SDXC memory card at the same time?
Does it operate on 800MHz 4G band (good for Vodafone and O2)?
Rickardo to Rys_Ochodzki
29 Apr 16 1 #5
I'm not sure about your other questions but one of the answers on Amazon states the bands are 800, 1800, and 2600.
nigelhooper to Rys_Ochodzki
29 Apr 16 #8
I have one, great phone. There are 2 sim slots and a separate memory card slot. Both sims allow non 2g sim cards, but you cant have more than one non 2g network active at the same time and so you have to toggle them in the settings, which is the only downer for me.
zzzz
29 Apr 16 1 #6
White.
nick77777
29 Apr 16 #7
Good deal IMO - ordered. Anyone found a decent brown leather flip case for this at a reasonable price?
nigelhooper
29 Apr 16 #9
Great price as well, up until now it has always been £129.99. It is running Android 5.1.1 They haven't released android 6 / marshmallow yet but you can get it via cyanogenmod.
Gollywood to nigelhooper
29 Apr 16 1 #12
​It has come down to £99.99 on a number of occasions... combined with Nationwide rewards scheme few months ago came down to £74.99!!

Charging slot was a real pain for me....didn't accept any of my chargers so it ended up on eBay
livid_chimp
29 Apr 16 #10
Tempted... Though it seems to fall short of the Vodafone Ultra 6 because of screen res (I wouldn't use dual sim). Or am I missing something else?
Spark
29 Apr 16 #11
Everytime I see the name of this phone, I'm reminded of this for some reason.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qF-YyEtE2vk
Quids
29 Apr 16 #13
Is it not a standard charging slot?
Bear Bargains
29 Apr 16 #14
It is a standard usb charging slot as many others have stated most chargers don't fit very well I too have had this problem also for some reason I can't load youtube on it.I bought recently when it was at this price but am sending back this week.
rbsjp
29 Apr 16 #15
i understand it is not an android phone, so will it not run all the playstore apps?
Deedie to rbsjp
29 Apr 16 #17
??????????
Gollywood to rbsjp
29 Apr 16 1 #18
Are you asking or telling us this? Either way. IT IS AN ANDROID phone :smirk:
Gollywood to rbsjp
29 Apr 16 #20
It IS an Android phone
redadmiral
29 Apr 16 #16
Will BT TV & BT Sport work with this?
Gollywood
29 Apr 16 1 #19
It is the standard charging slot but for some reason, non of the chargers I had would work, and I only use genuine chargers & had Sony, HTC, Samsung, ZTE ones and all kept popping out - none of them 'clicked' into place. Also used a few generic ones - same problem.

I noted that it was quite a common problem.
happyharry
29 Apr 16 #21
​it is android & runs play store fine.
happyharry
29 Apr 16 #22
​Cyanogen OS is an Open OS Built by the Users, for the Users Cyanogen backs the largest open source Android developer community in the world. They're working to create some of the most advanced customisation, performance, and security technology available for mobile phones.
rbsjp
29 Apr 16 #23
thanks. how is the battery life?
tearfly
29 Apr 16 1 #24
Fantastic phone, I've had one for months now. Fast, very bright screen (almost too bright IMO, worth dimming it to save on battery), lightweight, more customisable than vanilla android, The LED notification light shows a different colour depending on the notification. Camera is ok.

Only downsides for me are the battery which is average, and the GPS ain't great. Overnight the battery will drain around 20% and regular use of the phone will definitely require a daily charge.
Rickardo
29 Apr 16 #25
It is unlocked and runs CyanogenMod out of the box.
Nenny
29 Apr 16 #26
PMSLOL...:laughing:
ronin13
29 Apr 16 1 #27
Awesome phone. £94.99 with NUS. This is 100 quids worth of loveliness.
nomez
29 Apr 16 1 #28
Ive been tempted by the Chinese phones recently, I have just looked at the Ulephone power and with these I always do a comparison with a LG G3 (my current phone) and everytime the G3 slightly wins. I guess I am just looking for an excuse to get a new phone lol.
darklight
29 Apr 16 2 #29
For those fitness fans who have old school ANT+ wearables like ( the garmin hrm straps) and don't want to spend any money on newer more expensive BTLE strap it's good to know this handset supports ANT+ hardware!
At the moment only Sony's and now some Samsungs offer ANT+ support directly out of the box.
The feature is non-existent in most phones and even if present (but secretly disabled) would require an £8.30 fee from this app on Googleplay to reactivate it.
Anyway the humble wileyfox has ANT+ builtin but the feature is quietly disabled. It can beactivated for free using ANT+ tester app which does the exact same thing that £8.30 app I mentioned a moment ago would do!
For instance the P8 lite handset a lovely Octacore offering has no ANT+ capabilitie as show in the pics below.
Run the ANT tester app on a Carphone "live" display demo P8lite , turns out the P8lite doesn't support ANT+ devices and the feature cannot be enabled, disappointed as I really liked the P8L octacore spec. I guess I'll stick with the Wileyfox Crackling as its chipset does support ANT and simply requires "enablement" for those interested in activating and using feature
The very last pic is a screenshot of my wileyfox display showing ANT enabled

P8lite handset running ANTtester (pictured below)

http://s32.postimg.org/5tyd3d72t/P8lite_1.jpg

http://s32.postimg.org/45vjdq1p1/P8lite_2.jpg




my Wileyfox (screenshot pictured below) running the ANT tester app (positive result)

http://s32.postimg.org/aqx8gi711/Wileyfox.jpg
golo83
29 Apr 16 #30
this or xiaomi note 2?
thanks
komi
29 Apr 16 1 #31
Note 2 > or go extra £45-50 more and get a note 3 pro (snapdragon 650, 3gb, 32 Rom and 4000 mAh - huge improvement for not much extra)
jordanc93
29 Apr 16 #32
CyanogenMod is built by the users. Cyanogen OS does not involve the Mod community and is the commercial version of Cyanogen. OS and Mod version are very different with the OS version being supported directly by Cyanogen's development team. I see you copied that from Cyanogen OS about page and changed it to complicate things when you should have stuck to what it said:
darklight
29 Apr 16 #33
CMod /COs prob confusing to the uninitiated!
yeah been using CyanMod for years. This crackling is my first CyanOs phone , and tbh I think I'm going to stick with CyOs in the future.. too many late nights spent trying to resolve bugs in Mod installs although technically the challenges represent the fun bit side :innocent:
looking to get the Andromax R2 or its variant when it eventually goes global...currently only available in Indonesia
golo83
29 Apr 16 #34
only problem is note 3 uses 1 of the 2 sims slots for sim/SD card so cant have 2 sims + sd card together...either 1 sim + SD or 2 sims..

i can see note 2 brand new from UK/EU sellers for about £105 inc delivery

buglawton
29 Apr 16 #35
GPS and charger socket are knowns I think.
- Needs a slightly longer usb plug apparently. Could be solved by sourcing just the 'right' cables.
- GPS: Under the back cover, directly next to the GPS antenna, is there a big fat sticker? If so, remove.
darklight
29 Apr 16 #36
​yes there is a black strip on the inside side of the battery cover. apparently this black patch's other function is to allow the phone fall within the UK permissible SAR levels range. so peel off with caution
you might also need to enable permissions for apps that require GPS access
I additionally use GPS Status (pro).
When I start a fitness app requiring GPS , the lock-on's within 5 seconds even though the GPS chip only sees two of the three main satellite constellations. yeah it sees US & Russo constellations but not the Chinese Beidou constellation
rasdonny
29 Apr 16 #37
and not that impressed with it :stuck_out_tongue:
tootricky
29 Apr 16 1 #38
ignore the SU6 fanboys, this is a great phone for the money and doesn't look and feel like "My First Phone" from Fisher Price :man:
ronin13
29 Apr 16 #39
When you say "peel off with caution". Do you mean because I might damage something, or that I might fry my brain if I do remove it? Ta
darklight
29 Apr 16 2 #40
hmm, this phone's essentially a repackage of the Cherryone handset which itself goes under another brand name I cant remember now. Other climes perhaps less stringent on their safety rad levels wouldn't bat an eyelid at SAR levels. Over here in the UK rarely does the public pay any attention too except when there's a mast in their backgarden!
Remember barely 5 years ago when parents were being strongly advised to limit their kids use of mobile devices due to their thinner skulls and bones being less able to repel radiation. Well it's theses same folks recommending buying the latest phone / tab asap for lil Johnny who's barely 2 years old and would prob rather sink his teeth into it than use it properly (I'm prepared to be corrected here ..i might be wrong ..forgive me)
Anyway the suspicion is that the patch was introduced to prevent significant SAR exposure to the head/face during use but then if you think about it, when the phone is against the face the shielding effect of the patch is negligible as the patch is actually layered onto the plastic back cover ( which is away from the face).
Peeling the patch off the batt cover doesn't damage the cover at all.


The jury's out on this one but it seems the patch's to reduce the likelihood of frying one's brain. My honest answer is I don't know
Boogie123
29 Apr 16 #41
I think this is the review of the phone: https://youtu.be/81Mu0S5PnVg
Nathe
29 Apr 16 1 #42
I think he copied it verbatim from the Amazon product page.
happyharry
29 Apr 16 1 #43
No, I copied/pasted it straight from Amazon. Take it up with Mr Bezos!!
Rhythmeister
29 Apr 16 #44
​The Smart Ultra 6 had a better CPU as well :sunglasses:
morrig
29 Apr 16 #45
Just wandering having a CM device is there a setting in the drop down menu that can switch between Sims or using Xposed (rooted phone) is there an app that can do it?
stevesuk
30 Apr 16 #46
I ordered one of these yesterday, to replace my Moto G 4G (first generation) - which has a failing battery and cracked screen :smiley:

My wife has the 3rd gen Moto G, and I have to admit I was a little disappointed when I played with it (little things missing, like no notification LED). So I'm hoping this will be better - it has twice the RAM for a start. Some people say the camera is good, but others merely OK. But for £99 delivered, I'll give it a go :smiley:

There are some posts on the Wileyfox Facebook page to suggest that the Android Marshmallow version (6.0.1) of their OS is being pushed to the Swift next week, which is good news.
GimmiSomeOfThat
8 May 16 #47
Back in stock if someone can un-expire, I don't want to make a new deal just to steal the heat.
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