Congratulations on winning today's dumbest post challenge :innocent:

Please tell me you are joking.

You should have more consideration for vulnerable people

​You don't need a torch app as it is built in. Double downward swipe from top of the screen

Have to agree internal memory is terrible, looking at rooting my wifes to try and get more memory, free up some from the bloatware etc. She uses facebook, dropbox ands whatsapp and always low memory, even though I have put what I can on the sd card.

I have the old MOTO E with 2gb internal memory, and yeh, it is an issue for me, I juggle apps depending on what I want. However it is not a disaster, and did only cost me 40 quid. Bearing that in mind, for someone with average needs I would suggest that 8gb internal memory would be absolutely plenty.

Daughter got moto e on £7.50 Tesco contract due an upgrade soon. Internal storage is an issue. Good for txt and web browsing but more than a few basic apps and storage is full.
We've thought about upgrading to new phone on same contract. Selling it £50 ish. Buying Zenfone 5 for £74 from ebuyer.com. (Got 5% off code) Makes Zenfone effectively £25.

Have one of these provided by my work. Great little handset. Would gladly pay this for it if i didn't get it for free. Voted hot :smiley:

Just bought one, used eBay - kevinlow82 - £1.59 unlock.
Received the code after six hours and phone now works perfectly on all networks :smile:

Bargain price for this phone, hot

Warning.... This phone is not suitable for anybody other than the lightest of users who do not want to install more than a few apps.

I speak from experience.

There is very little storage capacity. Even moving everything possible to sd card, updates quickly become an issue.

My wife's now sits in the drawer unused as she could not install more than a few apps, and I would in no way rate her as even a medium user.

Asda is now selling MOTO E at £60

Also in-store in Cowley Road, Oxford in Tesco

For those people who are planning on using this as a daily phone, rather than an interim/backup phone. Please be aware that the onboard memory in this phone is extremely low (8gb, the majority of which is used up by the OS and system apps).

My sister bought this phone for my technology challenged mother, and with 4 apps installed (WhatsApp, Car Breakdown, Facebook and a Torch) the phone started notifying of low memory. I've put an SD card in, which has photos and a few mp3s on it, but the space is still extremely limited.

I upgraded the device from KitKat to Lollipop for her, hoping for some improvement, but she still receives the notifications.

If this device were to get a 6.0 update, this wouldn't be a problem, as the OS would see the SD card as internal storage, but until that's the case, it's worth pointing out.

Other than that, it's a great little phone.

Thanks for your reply, I can see both sides of the coin. I only need the texts, as I rarely use the mins & data on my phone every month. A couple of my mates, said Tesco was the best for coverage, even half way up a mountain as one of them is a triathlete. I didn't want to go with a company I've never heard of and I believe I get club card points as well with this deal. The battery life was also a factor for me, as I know that Apple & Samsung are useless for batteries.

Afraid you would lose!

Yes if you continued on another 12 months it would cost the same but the point is you're not locked in to doing so, because there is no cost of the phone to pay off.

Phone + Sim over 24 months, you are legally locked into paying £180.
Sim over 12 months, you are legally locked into paying £90.

That is how they can offer you the 'free' phone, because they know they'll get the cost back over the two years. With the sim only deal you can cancel and not pay them anything more, get a better deal elsewhere.

You're not getting the phone for free, you're paying for it by being locked into paying them for 2 years, guaranteeing their reimbursement. Yes, if you're going to be paying for two years anyway getting a contract is obviously a better deal but that's not why people buy Sim-Only. You buy SO for two reasons, if you already have a phone paid off and if you don't want to be locked into a legal contract for 2 years, if for any reason you can no longer afford it you can cancel it sooner.

Also as others have pointed out there are better deals than that on Sim Only.

Your total cost over 24 months is £180.

I could buy this handset at £59 and take this sim only deal:



£179 total but double the data and I would have the chance to switch to a better deal at any time in the two years, on a monthly basis. You're locked in for two years. Better deal.

I could even take this one:



Which is a total of £201 but 4x the minutes, double the data and again that freedom to cancel every 30 days.

You've proved me right, the phone is free. After 12 months, you will need another 12 months at a similar monthly price. Both deals come to the same amount over 24 months but one has a free phone and the other doesn't.

You honestly think a company is genuinely giving you a £60 phone for free? Why would they?

I just looked on uSwitch, this is what I found:



So no, Sim Only is 12 months. You're locked in for an extra 12 months, to cover the cost of the phone. I've never heard of a 24 months sim only deal, that would be ludicrous.

Exactly.

I'm not trying to be rude as we all have different means and budgets but for 95p extra you can have a bit more and you are not tied to a long contract.

http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/sim_only_deal/3601d1775797d1726b2b188f29a4994630265c91?page=%2Fmobiles%2Fcompare%2Fsim_only_deals%2F&position=8&sorted_by=monthly_cost

If a better deal comes along then you can move on.

The bit I'm struggling to understand is that the same sim only deal is also £7.50 a month. Nothing in my contract to suggest extra payments for the phone, which makes the phone free.

250 mins 5000 texts and 500 mb data is costing him £5 per month on top of the phone cost, not a bad deal if you are happy with the phone.

Yes Tesco tell you how much you pay for the phone in your monthly contract. I bought the Moto G 8gb last week and I pay £13.50 a month for two years. £9 for my package and £4.50 for the phone. After two years my monthly payment will drop to £9 per month.

So 24 x £7.50 = £180

The phone can be had for £60 new, that means your contract for min/text/data over 24m is £120 now that maybe good or bad i do not know but the phone you are getting is not free its paid for is your overall cost of contract.

24 months, the same price as the same sim only deal. Not much in the contract, I don't have to pay for the phone as far as I can see.

How long is your contract?

Typing on one now. £40 about four months ago, I assumed it was being discontinued.

Terrible camera by any standards. No flash. No compass oddly. Screen a little less sharp than previous model due to just being stretched but ok.

However for webrowsing and general use its excellent. All the basic iPlayer and stuff works fine. They support unlocking the bootloader so you can use cyanogenmod ROMs to keep up to date. Official updates don't seem to happen...

So a fairly safe bet generally you don't care about taking decent photos. But I think £60 is a fairly normal price not really a bargain plus its getting a bit old anf must be due an update soon so if you can I'd wait a month or two and get something better for the price.

Oops, mixed it up with EE. Tesco did not charge me, they just texted me warning at around 750MB, and at 1GB just blocked my data till next month. Obviously I waved to them the very next month for "unlimited data limited to 1GB"

Yeh, right. I've had Tesco contract for £10/month with unlimited internet since 2011 and I was happy until I exceeded 1GB and got charged a fortune after that. And guess what Tesco's CS replied to me when I mentioned that my contract states "Unlimited data"! They said: "Yes Sir, you are right but you can not exceed 1GB". What a laugh!!!

I just went onto uswitch and the sim only deal is the same price as the deal i just signed up for with a free phone. Sorry to disappoint you all but I'm right. My phone is FREE!!!

Not true, No-one can beat my Tesco unlimited everything for £10.21 per month so when I need a new phone I buy a sim free one everytime

Your payg sim deal sounds too good to be true. I would wager you never use the 3gb cos it hardly ever works.

Yes, but only 250mins and 500gb data. I get 1000mins and 3gb data for £5.50. As other have pointed out, you are paying for the phone in your contract. If something sounds too good to be true blah blah.

I signed up for this phone on contract last week and I love it. Better battery than the iPhone & Galaxy. I have to vote cold on this deal though, because there is no point wasting money on a phone when you can get it free on contract. Sim only deals are no better than contract deals with a free phone.

I was paying £7.50 anyway for my sim only contract with tesco , now got this as an upgrade phone for free with tesco and still paying same £7.50 , only difference is contract is 24 months, which is ok for me as would be staying with tesco.

True ... I only use in the states.

Any recommended good cheap wallety cases for this?
What do you think a stand up type?

You should have more consideration for vulnerable people

I bought one of these in the States last week for £38 inc tax. Works well enough. Would pay this for one.

Great backup phone while your bootlooping LG G4 is gettng repaired. Or maybe that's just me...

Hi OP, Tried to submit HUKD but didnt know how. Basically same Moto E 2015 4G/LTE Vodafone locked at Big Sainsburys at 50pounds instore(saw it at two branches)
However, cannot see it on main Sainsburys website nor its phoneshop website either.
Hope this might be useful.

I've used kevinlow82 on ebay for my Moto unlock codes, they've all worked first time and I had them within the hour - £1.59.

Bargain for the money,daughter has had one since xmas.Cant fault it, more so at this price.