As if the Scots would drink semi skimmed milk ! LOL:D

Some 40% of the total EU budget is set aside for the Common Agricultural Policy, and last year the biggest subsidy, called the Single Farm Payment, made up 56% of the total income of farms in England.

​Agreed

Having something you could sell but no money to live on doesn't make you rich, so what is it if you are not poor? What 'rural area' do you live in? I'm in north Devon and live on a farm, plenty of farmers round here struggling to get by, and I don't know any that own a Range Rover.

As for the subsidy, this years was due from April 1st, the farmer here hasn't received his money from last April yet and there isn't any sign of it coming soon.

The people who say they've never met a poor farmer, I wonder how many farmers you have met? I personally know about 20, none of them are rich, I have more surplus income than most if not all of them, and they all work many more hours than I do. And nope, no range rovers still!

People think it's some kind of joke, it won't be so funny when they do all decide to sell up and our milk comes from thousands of miles away, we will be lucky not to be paying £2 for 2 litres then. But at least the ex farmers will all have sold their land and then they actually COULD afford one of these range rovers you all get so excited about.

it depends, in most cases in terms of the accounting entries the supermarket pays the full cost of the delivery and then receives a rebate in terms of a physical payment back to them or they can receive a deduction from the actual cost.

How does the supplier pay when there is BOGOF offer ?

I work for a company that supplies ready meals for two of the large supermarket chains.When they have a BOGOF promotion we obviously have increased production requirements but as far as I am aware the cost per meal charge to the supermarket is still the same

I don't drink milk anyway

Yeah of course they. If if they reach an unsustainable low level of income they can diversify. Plus is all else fails they have millions of pounds worth of land.

Not my definition of 'poor'.

Get sick of hearing about poor farmers I've never met one yet, and nobody ever says what about the poor oil companies when the price of petrol is tumbling :smirk:

I live in a rural area. Never met a poor farmer.

they aren't as big as they used to be and if you consider how much work goes into farming the small farmers aren't making a lot of money if any. Not everyone can move into other businesses, cheese, ice cream have been mentioned but they all need capital which many don't have.

The EU used to go mad on giving cash, in France you were a farmer if you had one cow and were entitled to a massive amount of cash back in the 80s same as someone with hundreds of cows :disappointed:

Good response to wor Benjamin- take a peek at his profile and you'll perhaps understand where he's at

Kilts and a semi.. :confused: What a combo! :laughing:

I'm not au fait with the Eu subsidies- can you enlighten me on how " huge" they are

Probably true for some but not all as many farms are being driven out of business. The more we import the great our trading deficit becomes and how much we owe abroad. We then have to borrow more and that borrowing will effect future tax and benefits. At the moment consecutive governments have borrowed to run the economy but that can't go on forever at some point we will be forced to start paying back the debt at a serious rate and the general population will suffer as their living standards decline rapidly. Already there is about £27,000 of debt per head not counting the government public sector pension shortfall.

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedkingdom

wow.... that is the lowest low

You can try your hardest to drill this into some people but it's just not going to sink in

But just how much of this does the dairy farmer get?

it does matter because if the farmers don't get paid enough they will close down their farms and we will end up with importing milk. We all want cheap prices but cheap doesn't have to mean the supermarkets make all of the money and the supplier doesn't.

Do you know who pays every price cut, every buy one get one free or other offer at supermarkets, you might be shocked to find out its not the supermarket but the supplier, those displays you see for products, paid for by the supplier. Nice of the supermarkets to take all of the credit though.

Love the casual racism

Shouldn't it be "smi skimmd milk" if it's Scottish! :wink:

As if the Scots would drink semi skimmed milk ! LOL:D

it cost more.2 put the Scottish logo on :laughing:

No such thing as tasty semi skimmed milk. Blue top or better still, Jersey cow milk. :innocent:

yeah I voted hot but then realised my 6 pinter (3.4L) from Morrisons is only £1.30 anyway

I prefer milk from cows but each to their own !!!:confused: