Trying to find a cheap last minute deal and looks like flights have fallen again to £189 per person. Pretty cheap considering! i hope they are this price in may when I can go!
To find them go to flights on the menu bar and then click flight deals.
That was for families with children. It was £219 for adults only back then
Perudio
16 Apr 16#11
Great price, shame i can't go
cadmus
16 Apr 16#12
Incredible prices if you can go now yet peak July august will cost over five times more....shysters
Cosmic_Mastermind
16 Apr 161#13
I really want to go on holiday to the US, but the tourist waiver form you have to fill in is Draconian and offensive. Most people probably don't bother to read it, but you sign away your legal rights and give consent that you may be expelled or denied entry for any reason whatsoever - anyone in authority can block you or arrest - think about that, they can arrest you - on a mere whim.
Plus, even though I have no convictions of any kind, because I've been arrested several times, I am expected to visit the US embassy in London to attend an interview. The US does not have access to the UK police database and I have no record on the police database as far as I know, but that's not to say there are not unofficial records kept about me, and due to a coincidence with my name, it's quite possible I may still be flagged on FBI or CIA databases, so I risk losing all my money even if I do spend all that cash and time going to London for a 1 minute interview, because I could still be booted out on arrival just because they feel like it.
It's depressing, I have no idea where else in the World to go, at this rate I'll end up spending two weeks in the Costa Del Chav.
Argouk
16 Apr 16#14
In Orlando now payed 170 each from 12th to 26th April bargain
barclays
16 Apr 16#15
Arrested several times !! Wow unlucky wrong time wrong place or just not enough evidence to convict you ?
Maybe USA is not place for you if you that unlucky !
slo_moshun
16 Apr 161#16
If you've been arrested then under PACE you will have had your prints, photo and DNA taken along with a PNC update created. No conviction doesn't mean no record as authorities need to know about suspected criminality and behaviour.
KayDude
16 Apr 162#17
You can't have it both ways dude. If you want to go to the US you have to accept their process. The UK has harsh rules on US citizens as well. I've had many good American friends denied a renewal of their work permits after 12 months for no good reason at all other than Theresa May wanting to lower some number on some report somewhere to make it seem that the government is cracking hard on immigration. All of them wanted to actually stay here longer and contribute as best as they can. Okay, working is not the same as visiting, but relations between the UK and US has been strained for years now and with all the recent mess Europe is in you shouldn't blame them for being extremely cautious. Ideally the US shouldn't have made so many enemies, but that's a different argument.
spiderontheweb
16 Apr 161#18
Spi
Spill the beans...are you Robert, Brenda or Glen (depending on time of day of course)? :neutral_face:
Cosmic_Mastermind
16 Apr 16#19
I think I've only had my prints and photo taken once, and that was around 1992 (a police car nearly ran into my car because my car was moving too slowly on a mini-roundabout - nobody's fault but the driver was in a bad mood that night). In each incident the charges were dropped or "investigation discontinued". I could pay for a copy of my police record, but as far as I know there isn't one since I've never been charged with anything.
Cosmic_Mastermind
16 Apr 16#20
Err..no. One of my parents happened to have the same name and be a dead-ringer for the parent of a terrorist bomber,and my first name being the same as his first name resulted in the media getting the wrong end of the stick.
Cosmic_Mastermind
16 Apr 16#21
Thanks Kay, that's a good point, but the ESTA waiver form really does bug me. If you tick any one of those boxes, you have to go to the US Embassy in London in person for an interview that could in 99.9% of cases be done by a quick email or phone call. Caught smoking a joint? Embassy. Have a physical disability? Embassy. And it's anyone's guess what "moral turpitude" and "immoral acts" means.
smckirdy
17 Apr 16#22
Honestly I think you are misunderstanding the form or at least not exploiting the loophole, you can be arrested and NOT have to tick that box every time unless that arrest was for trafficking drugs, organised crime, murder etc, if for example you are arrested for a traffic offence you don't need to mention that. Basically unless you have been arrested on a drugs charge and/or been convicted and sent down for several years the answer on that box is no. That being said if you have already ticked that box in the past you are screwed. And they use the arrested/convicted term because in different countries arrest has a different meaning, in the UK it's the convicted part they are interested about. Even the US customs website basically says most people putting a yes in that box haven't bothered reading the question or researching the additional documentation and have ticked it in error, the question is general for brevity but they are actually asking for something very specific.
Also if you have been arrested, or at least brought in for questioning you WILL have a police record of some form, however UK police databases are horrendous and often minor data like that don't travel beyond your local force.
Basically they just want to know if you are a nutter, a gang member, terrorist, spy, plague carrier or someone like to die or be seriously ill while you are there. If the answer is no to those read the more detailed information and maybe pop them an email. Worst case scenario they reject it and you have to apply for a regular visa, as long as it's reasonably an honest error they don't actually hold it against you and will often still issue you a visa, and it last's longer than a waiver visa so you don't need to rush around and can do it months before you travel.
jules_ni1
17 Apr 161#23
That is the old visa waiver form. The new one is clearer about arrest.
Have you ever been arrested
or convicted for an offence or
crime that resulted in serious
damage to property, or serious
harm to another person or
government authority; or ever
violated any law related to
possessing, using, or
distributing illegal drugs?
Cosmic_Mastermind to jules_ni1
24 Apr 16#32
That's good news, thankyou. I have been arrested for suspicion of possessing drugs but never charged or convicted; that is different from the old ESTA which would reject you simply for being arrested.
It's still not great; you have to make travel plans before you can apply for an ESTA because it wants a "point of contact" in the USA before it will tell you whether you are accepted or not, but this does look a lot more promising, thankyou Jules.
pglfc
17 Apr 16#24
I can't find any of these flights now? All the cheap seats gone?
wakeywarrior
17 Apr 161#25
You have been arrested 'several times'. Whether that makes the USA vigilant or over zealous is a matter of opinion. Compare and contrast to UK, where people with serious criminal histories are simply allowed in, and asylum seekers who commit serious crimes here (which may result in jail time) are granted leave to remain due to Human Rights (fact I have personal experience of a case). Who has it correct?
tonijackson1460
17 Apr 16#26
does anyone know where I can book one way with Thomson? it's not giving me the option on their direct site.
rdann
17 Apr 16#27
Took a while but did find that price, unfortunately dates no good for me, but a great post and voted hot.
danielthomas4
17 Apr 16#28
why are the flights so cheap if you book last minute in April.
it was the same last year....
but book a year in advance and you pay out the nose again
Ste_Vo_
17 Apr 16#30
Not sure what the weather will be like then, however we went in June/July and it's their rainy season. The humidity is horrendous, however u get some super hot weather mixed with amazing thunder storms. Just make sure ur not stuck out in it!
samhain81
17 Apr 16#31
Sounds like a dream country to live in. Can we have that in the uk please?
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Plus, even though I have no convictions of any kind, because I've been arrested several times, I am expected to visit the US embassy in London to attend an interview. The US does not have access to the UK police database and I have no record on the police database as far as I know, but that's not to say there are not unofficial records kept about me, and due to a coincidence with my name, it's quite possible I may still be flagged on FBI or CIA databases, so I risk losing all my money even if I do spend all that cash and time going to London for a 1 minute interview, because I could still be booted out on arrival just because they feel like it.
It's depressing, I have no idea where else in the World to go, at this rate I'll end up spending two weeks in the Costa Del Chav.
Maybe USA is not place for you if you that unlucky !
Spill the beans...are you Robert, Brenda or Glen (depending on time of day of course)? :neutral_face:
Also if you have been arrested, or at least brought in for questioning you WILL have a police record of some form, however UK police databases are horrendous and often minor data like that don't travel beyond your local force.
Basically they just want to know if you are a nutter, a gang member, terrorist, spy, plague carrier or someone like to die or be seriously ill while you are there. If the answer is no to those read the more detailed information and maybe pop them an email. Worst case scenario they reject it and you have to apply for a regular visa, as long as it's reasonably an honest error they don't actually hold it against you and will often still issue you a visa, and it last's longer than a waiver visa so you don't need to rush around and can do it months before you travel.
Have you ever been arrested
or convicted for an offence or
crime that resulted in serious
damage to property, or serious
harm to another person or
government authority; or ever
violated any law related to
possessing, using, or
distributing illegal drugs?
It's still not great; you have to make travel plans before you can apply for an ESTA because it wants a "point of contact" in the USA before it will tell you whether you are accepted or not, but this does look a lot more promising, thankyou Jules.
it was the same last year....
but book a year in advance and you pay out the nose again