Where did he bring it from?

insane price for a 4k telly

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I'm struggling to see any relevance this post may have to this thread.

Calibrated settings video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boBuf7kEQnI
Display lag Test video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_0uI2VKEj8

Took the 3rd one back and got a refund. She gave me £330 back instead of £280 haha :smiley: bonus.

Mine has decided it would be fun to turn itself on and off, going back to Argos

"400hz perfect motion" is quoted on the website.... It generally runs at 60hz on most resolutions and the 400hz perfect motion is some funky Philips technology to smooth motion out I believe

Haha I know I just have very bad luck. Tbh if it wasn't for this faint line down middle I would be happy to keep it. But now I know it's there my eyes are drawn to it. You can only really see it on a black or dark image. One thing that really impressed me with this TV is the colour, it supports full RGB which my JVC doesn't and it looks great. I was watching Age of Ultron and the part where Ultron woke up and attacked Jarvis the colours just looked brilliant. I think I'm going to get my money back and get the LGUF770V. Have you any idea what the refresh rate on this Philips is?

Lol!? Can't believe you've had such bad luck with these! Mines totally fine and there's 125 reviews on the Argos website for this TV and it's averaging a full 5 stars...

What you may be suffering is Argos being very prevalent at selling returns as new TV's. I had to return my first one as it had clearly been opened and used before, all the packaging was unsealed, batteries already in remote etc. Argos swapped it no problems and the next one was definitely brand new but the fact they happily sell you returns as new items is worrying

Just plugged 3rd one in and there's a faint 2inch line down centre of the screen... Not getting another one of these.

Took the 49 back but they had no more in stock so had to get the 43 again. If this one's bad I might try the Hisense at £300

Hmm it's not low res for me. I have white patches all over place like the case is too tight

The picture is really low resolution so im struggling to see what your refereing to, i certinaly dont have ghosting on mine

This is what I get on 49 inch one. Looks really bad :/ [img][/img]

Just got the 49 version and the screws on feet don't fit properly... Anyway set it up and first thing I noticed was faint vertical ghost lines all over place... I give up these tvs are pure garbage.

I'm going to take it back and swap it for another one. Will get back to you

I don't get what some mean about the sound though I actually think it's very good. Its actually better than all my other tvs

Uploaded 2 videos of my setup, one showing a game running the other showing my settings, links to each are in the videos description, be sure to select 1080p on youtube

https://youtu.be/lVn99e5-CFo
http://youtu.be/GAbQ9tqOWi8

Just search Google for 4K / UHD free downloads - there are a few sites you can download some very good clips / movie trailers etc

I also have this TV and whilst it is not high end for sure, could not say it is as bad as you say. Mine replaced a 4 years old Panasonic 39 incher and it is much better. Upscaling from an antenna SD signal is not so good but feed it with a decent 720p or 1080p signal and it is just fine. Yes it does need some calibration and yes blacks are not ink black (for that you will need to go old school Plasma or OLED) but for the money and a bit of work with calibration the blacks are fine. When i feed mine with a PS3 streaming netflix / Now TV / Amazon Prime the PQ is very good IMHO - so as mentioned maybe you have a faulty set - have you installed the latest firmware ?

EliTom

Yea I used most the ones you listed. The flickering does almost go away with the sharpness at 2 or 0 same as it does on my old tv but I think it's too low and just makes the image really blurry.. Things on this TV up close don't look too bad but in the distance everything looks awful. That upscale is a lie as well. And like I said it's not even 43inch haha. Downstairs I have a 4K Smart Sony Bravia which cost £600 and the difference between them is like DVD vs Blu Ray. The TV it was replacing is a 5yr old JVC which was £350 and the quality on JVC is better. Thing is I've basically looked at every TV below £600 and they all seem to be rubbish :/ they either have motion blur or high input lag. Deffo be taking this back. Its annoying because sometimes when picture zooms in it does actually look really good but then it zooms back out and it looks bad. I think this screen is capable of good quality but the software just sucks. Do you know anywhere I can download some 4k footage?

Have you calibrated it properly? Maybe a faulty set? I've put nearly 45 hours into various games on it since owning it and have none of the issues you describe.... Played 5 hours of uncharted solid today and the picture I'm looking at is stunning... But like I say, after lots of calibration and tweaking.... Make sure you are in game mode etc

Well I've just got it and the flickering is very bad

You said no flickering... Just bought it and the flickering is even worse than my old tv

Wow I wish I listened to others about how bad this junk is.. The quality is absolutely terrible.. Blacks are grey.. Lots of screen smudging.. Motion blur... Most of the picture seems out of focus... And the main reason I got this is because my old one flickers when playing Fallout 4, Far Cry, AC Black Flag and I don't know what else.. And this flickers a LOT worse.. And the screen isn't even 43inch it's 42.. And the upscale does absolutely nothing. If you think this TV is good you need to go to specsavers AVOID!

You have to remember it's subjective. Depending on optimal distance, what you're coming from, what you're used to, how much time you're willing to play about with the settings and what you're putting into it among other things will influence whether it's good or not. At your price point there will be a compromise. I went with a lack of smart TV (have a Xbox One and will get an Amazon box for the 4K) to get this to replace my 40 inch 10 year old Sony Bravia. Like you I was digesting everything and getting caught up in my own research. At the end of the day you just have to pull the trigger and go with something or realise that no decision is maybe the right decision and focus on something else.

Can't see the option but the TV does do contrast modes and micro dimming which might be along the lines.

You have to remember it's subjective. Depending on optimal distance, what you're coming from, what you're used to, how much time you're willing to play about with the settings and what you're putting into it among other things will influence whether it's good or not. At your price point there will be a compromise. I went with a lack of smart TV (have a Xbox One and will get an Amazon box for the 4K) to get this to replace my 40 inch 10 year old Sony Bravia. Like you I was digesting everything and getting caught up in my own research. At the end of the day you just have to pull the trigger and go with something or realise that no decision is maybe the right decision and focus on something else.

Can't see the option but the TV does do contrast modes and micro dimming which might be along the lines.

Can you reduce the backlight or is there just 1 brightness setting?

Spent hours looking at tvs the past week and in the £500 range I can't find any TV that's good, they all seem to have motion blur and high input lag for games. This is the lowest price one and although it sounds like the picture isn't very good it has low input lag according to people on here.

What settings did you end up with in the end or are you still tinkering?

On the 55 inch model:
Each foot measures (cm) - width 5, depth 21, height 5.5
Distance between feet: outside edge to outside edge (cm) - 59
Distance between feet: inside edge to inside edge (cm) - 49.7

What's the refresh rate on this?

What's the width of the feet? Thinking of getting one tomorrow but not sure it will fit on my stand

Software update available

http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/43PUT4900_12/4900-series-4k-uhd-slim-led-tv-with-pixel-plus-ultra-hd/support

Release notes

TPN152E_003.060.000.000 (Date published: 2016-04-27)
 YouSee network frequency changed from 143MHz to 450MHz, Denmark.
 Update in Channel list (Swiss-German) - SFR info HD.
 Solves onscreen keyboard only able to accept numeric key when entering Wifi encryption mode.
 Stability improvement.
 Improves PQ in DVB-T HD content.
 Improvement on Voo audio playback when connected to setup box

Having used yours I've actually modified mine a little and played a few hours of Assasins creed last night quite happily.... I'll scribble down what it's set too now and post later.... My initial settings above are a fair bit dimmer than I ended up with last night which is good for playing in a dark room as you don't want it mega bright....

Yeah I do have the odd issue with darkness, particularly on games, but I find the deepness of the colours brilliant on these settings - Ratchet & Clank looks phenomenal. I will have a try of your settings tonight mate and will get back to you on the brightness and contrast settings

Trying these settings now, dynamic contrast on maximum is too much for me, makes things far too dark that you would otherwise see detail of.... What have you got the base brightness and contrast set too? It seems to be a slightly more vibrant version of the settings I have so looks like we have a fairly similar picture going on

Picture style - movie
Colour - 70
Contrast 72
Sharpness - 2
Advanced:
Activity style - game
Colour - colour enhancement - minimum
Colour - colour temperature - normal
Contrast - contrast modes off
Contrast -Dynamic contrast - minimum
Contrast - Brightness - 60
Contrast - Video contrast - 80
Contrast - Gamma - minus 1
Sharpness - ultra res - on
Sharpness - noise reduc - off
Sharpness - MPEG reduc - off

I use the Photo preset as the base settings then in Advanced Picture Settings I have colour enhancement as maximum, colour temp normal, contrast mode as best picture, dynamic contrast as maximum, brightness 50, video contrast 100, gamma 0, ultra resolution on, noise reduction maximum and MPEG artefact reduction on.

In my opinion, and after weeks of tinkering, this gives the optimum picture and it looks insanely good on BT Sport Ultra HD.

Let me know what you think.

Game mode for games does a good job which is mostly what I'm using the TV for, it's quite well hidden in the menus though along with a few others. Photo preset for normal TV with a few manual tweeks!

funny you should say that .... but I would also like to know what settings others are using because I cannot get teh AV Forums calibration DVD to work .... and I also like the photo preset for normal TV !

EliTom

What settings have you gone for? I've gone for some not too dissimilar to the Photo preset

i went for the 49" but sent it back. going from a 42" it didn't actually seem that much bigger (strange i know) and i didn't rate the quality over my panasonic. all in all i wasn't impressed

Awesome thanks, Ill give it a test see how the laptop goes... fingers crossed!

You need something that has hdmi 2.0 or display port 1.2 or above. 4K content needs a way higher bandwidth than 1080p. Luckily my PC has a GTX 970 which is hdmi 2.0 compliant so can run full 4K and stream 4K videos off YouTube, Netflix etc.

I believe the Amazon Fire tv is 4K compliant via hdmi... Not sure what else is.

I'd have to agree, really enjoying the crisp picture via ps4 after some tinckering with the settings. Touch wood I've had no issues so far, I upgraded the firmware as soon as I got it. The sound whilst not too bad for the size was a bit tinny, so I added a soundbar. Really impressed for the price paid.

Not tried and 4k content yet though, bit unsure about how to run it on there? I guess via laptop/hdmi? Probably just me being a noob though!

How's everyone finding the TV?

I couldn't say that all new TVs do but most seem to

That's handy. Do all new TV's have this?

What are the record, pause, play etc buttons for on the doofer ?

Finally had a chance to test it this weekend and for £264.50 I paid, no complaints at all.
Working fine with Xbox One, PS4, 4K Amazon Fire TV for 4K Netflix and Amazon Prime content passing DD5.1 via ARC to AV amp.

PC was a bit more involved as my Asus AMD Radeon HD 7970 Matrix Platinum card is a bit old and predates HDMI 2.0, however Club3D do an active Display Port 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapter. I got mine from Amazon UK

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/displayport-12-to-hdmi-20-uhd-active-adapter.html

This works a treat and I now have 3840x2160 at 60Hz from my PC running games like Project Cars, Alien Isolation, Mad Max, Half Life 2, Battlefield 4 at 4K.

You need the latest AMD Crimson drivers and need to set "Preferred Color Depth" to 8 bit in Radeon Additional Settings (Radeon Settings app /display tab top right) under My Digital Flat Panels for "Philips FTV".
Then in Windows Display Settings (right click on desktop) then click your 4K TV to select it from the connected displays. Then scroll down and click Advanced Display Settings, then Display adapter properties at the bottom of the page. On the properties page click the Monitor tab and select 60 Hertz from the screen refresh drop down. Then hit okay.
If you change what monitors are connected you will need to select 60Hz again, as it resets to 30Hz the first time a new monitor setup is detected but setting sticks thereafter.

At 3840x2160 at 60Hz the TV is 4:2:0 input and colour accuracy after calibrating with a i1 Display Pro is fine for games and watching movies, youtube etc on the PC, but for colour critical work I will use My Eizo 27inch.

well my one does look better than my old panasonic when being fed by my PS3 which also outputs only at 1080p

EliTom

Have to say I'm really happy with this purchase. Massive improvement on my Xbox One games; Witcher 3 looks incredible!

Upgraded my Netflix account to include 4K stuff. Not much around yet but definitely a good investment, and for not much money either.

my tv completely broke. getting no picture only sound

Why expired?? Still in stock for me.

Good stuff, this flickering issue is really annoying and just makes the games unplayable. THIS is the flickering issue on my TV. It's a lot worse than it looks as well :/

Great thanks for reply

​argos

Played a few ps4 games including the face paced rocket league and all seems fine, I played withcer 3 on PC at 4K last night and noticed a subtle flicking in the sky when moving at pace.... Could be down to me pushing my graphics card up to 4K though rather than a TV issue.... At the end of the day for £260 it's a total bargain even if there are a few niggles with picture quality. You can easily spend £1000 on a high end 4K TV so unless you need the best there is then this will do most people just fine

I own fallout 4 and haven't encountered any problems.

No flickering on Fallout 4 for me mate. The only issue I've had with gaming is on PES2016 there is a slight blur around the main menu logo. It's tiny though. Other than that I haven't found any issues whatsoever and I've used it solidly for 3 days

I'm currently using a jvc TV for my PS4 and I get some annoying flickering on Fallout 4, Far Cry 4 and AC Black Flag. Do you own any of these games? Wanting to get this TV so just trying to find out if it flickers also on them games.

Awesome, managed to find it! Made a big difference in picture quality, many thanks!

From memory I think it's in picture settings, then advanced, then picture mode, you can pick TV, Game or Computer

Could you point me in the direction of these menus, cant seem to locate them!?!

Thanks - the TV Modes make a difference a fair bit of difference! I've set it to Game for the Xbox One & the picture is much better..... I'd missed this as it's buried a few menu's deep.

And as for the Dongle I've no idea either as the TV doesn't have any Smart Features that utilise it??

The most use I have found for it is that it updates the time and date automatically. Other than that, I have absolutely no idea!

Collected one & set it up but struggling to get the picture 'just right' - primarily Sky HD & Xbox One. Hope I haven't got a dodgy product.......

£264 for a stunning monitor that I can have a ridiculous amount of Windows open at once on, photo editing with more space then I could ever ask for and 4K gaming at 30fps on my gtx 970. Everything I've thrown at it looks stunning.

Maybe I'm being completely stupid, but how on earth do you type the wifi password in using the remote? I can't see how to get it to accept alpha input, only numerical...

Figured it out through trial and error - press the OK button to bring up the keyboard

Worth the purchase if theres no input lag.. Can be quite frustrating especially on cod

Got mine today and I am thoroughly impressed with it so far. The 'photo' picture setting seems to offer by far the best visuals. The manual tuning is easy to use and allows you to get an even crisper picture too. Very happy with the TV as a whole

l l ink hmmmk kkkkkkk

I'm assuming it's a lack of screenshot that means they can just deny all knowledge of it

How can they not be aware of a code that applies discount on their own site?:neutral_face:

God I'm dumb :-(, I just googled 'Argos Promotional code' and it popped up, thought I found somthing :-(

Doesn't appear to work.

That code is an example, not specifically a validcode!

Bought the 49'' last night so was a bit annoyed to see this. Argos were fine about it though. Even refunded delivery.

Does anyone find changing channels using the up/down on the remote to be quite laggy?

mine came last night, i wanted it to replace a couple of pc monitors and it does the job perfectly. I know people say it's not up to the job as a PC monitor but i can't fault it. 4K videos look great from 2ft away (4K on a 43" tv in a living room is pretty pointless) & i've tried a few games at 2560x1440 and again they look better than they did on my old 28" 1080 monitor (not a big gamer anyway).

Yes, very easy. Download a zip file on PC, unzip to root of USB drive. Stick it in the TV. Follow the on screen instructions (or go to setup - software update).

bought the 49" version on Friday, got it all out and ready to go (its quite deep actually compared to my 5 year old 1080p led samsung).

Software is garbage, very clunky, and took about 4 attempts to update the firmware. Anyway, after that, got it working then realised there was some vertical banding/shadowing on the screen. Thought it might just be because its new but wouldnt go away. The standard of the SD channels on the set (bar the vertical banding) was awful, even the HD channels upscaled wasnt great, no matter how much i played with the settings. Even tried some 4k youtube content via my nvidia shield and it was decent but nothing that impressive. You get what you pay for i suppose.

Took it back yesterday to my local argos and they couldnt have been more helpful (woman even advised they'd sold loads of the cheap philips but actually had a few brought back faulty). Decided to opt for a samsung instead, slightly more but is a cracker.

They cant do the TV10 code in store, you need to do it online and get it fast tracked, which i did. You also cant get the 10% quidco back, that only works for in store payments. So whatever way you do it you'll get 10%. I opted for the online as it was instant and no waiting about.

Thank you

Code expired unfortunately. Well guess im saved from another purchase I dont really need atm. Still would of been nice.

It does, but if you sit far enough away it makes it hard to read text / browse the web etc. If you want to make a 26" monitor feel like a 40 inch, sit 6 inches away from the screen

OOS online for delivery, finally found a near-ish store with it in stock and the codes expired, boo :disappointed:

is this an easy thing to do (update the firmware)

This site....... Didn't know I needed a new PC monitor but then I saw this and though of that lovely high resolution and massive screen on my desk..... Collecting tomorrow from my local Argos for the £264 price. You can't get an iPad for that price and this is 43 inches lol. Thank you for finding and posting this deal, heat added dude

that means wow piece of ****

Yup tv10 code expired probably from midnight onwards

Code expired

WOW-POS !!!

I think ( whatever that is )

can someone who owns this please tell me how gaming is.

depends how far you sit from it doesnt it?

i was thinking of buying a 3d tv but im not sure now

younger brother brought this set today and all I can say WOW what a POS this telly is mind blowingly crap :laughing:

Anyone used a 4k tv this size for a PC monitor?

"So if you buy online it can be returned but not if you buy it instore?"
Correct

So if you buy online it can be returned but not if you buy it instore? Way to go high street....

Can't see anywhere to enter code

Where do I enter code
Tv10 is 10 per cent off?

BTW, this should be fine playing 4k content from the new Amazon Fire TV (not stick!) as the fire tv apparently requires the HDMI slot to have HDCP 2.2 compliance before it will output 4k to it. Taken from the Philips website

HDCP 2.2?
Yes on all HDMI

http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/43PUT4900_12/4900-series-4k-uhd-slim-led-tv-with-pixel-plus-ultra-hd/specifications

Does this support local playback of H.265 files? Or will I need a separate device? The LG I have been looking at does, but tempted to go for this even if it means picking up another streaming box.

There should definitely be a dongle in the box so anyone who hasn't got one needs to check again and if you haven't already totally empty the box to check!

Yes I thought the same, I've seen 39" 4k TV's as low as £185 but they don't have the same features as this and they are 4" smaller. You might as well say I have seen a bunch of Banana's in my local store cheaper than this :-)

Cheers OP. Got this from Braehead this afternoon though the staff at Argos didn't know anything about "TV10" and I almost gave up because they weren't that helpful tbh. I sat outside the store and bought it online using code then went back in and picked it up. Great TV and def comes with "Philips TV wireless network adaptor" dongle thingy mentioned above and will ask the kids what the hell its for.......

I got this at Christmas and paid a similar price as a friend works there.

The contrast isn't fantastic, the blacks are too light. There's also quite a lot of light bleed in the top corners. The wifi stick is pretty useless for me. The only 4k file I've played was a quick demo I downloaded and it looked good. I got the tv for gaming, it's good but you do get a bit of motion blur which means it isn't great for fifa.

For the money it is an ok TV but it's not a patch on the 42" LG (non-4k) that I paid the same price for years earlier.

How is anyone watching 4K on this? Without HDMI2 you can't get a 4K connection can you? No smart features means up scaled Netflix at best doesn't it?

Anyone noticed how 4K TV Prices are dropping like a stone?

Good deal, but I have seen cheaper in my local store, albeit for a 39" at £198.

OK very first impressions - picture quality great but have the No Signal fault direct from my PS3

so some questions from the wise!

For those who have this TV and are happy with it ...

what is the latest Firmware Version?

are there any optimal picture settings - what have you fiddled to improve PQ ?

also can someone link me to any 4K / UHD video downloads that I can really see how true 4K should look.

thanks

EliTom

software update the tv. as most of the problems everyone complainign about was fixed in the software update.

Ordered mine on fast track, excellent service by Argos to deliver the same day for £3.95. I think mine didn't recognise HDMI's to start with although I realised after I may have been selecting the wrong HDMI source. Anyway after I updated software to latest version all is definitely working. Picture quality is excellent and up scales normal TV very well. Sound quality is very good for built in speakers but I also like the fact that if I plug my speaker into the headphone socket I can choose to leave TV speakers running as well. I was looking for reasons not to like it and was not impressed when I saw it had shiny screen as older TV was a mat finish. I kept thinking before it was delivered maybe I should have gone for a larger screen but after using it for a couple of hours I am really pleased. Ideal size for our lounge watching from around 9-10ft away. Excellent for the price and well worth the money. If it lasts as long as my old LG its a bargain. I may also get £4.04 quidco back.

Mine also came with a Wifi dongle but I've not used it and I'm not sure what you need it for unless they plan to add smart features or maybe you can also update software via it.

Can anyone confirm this comes with a WiFi dongle? Mine hasn't and it doesn't recognise my own Edimax one? - thanks
(I've done the software update)

Excellent price. My 8 year old Sony 40u4000 refuses to die even though its been drawn on, smacked by toddlers, had Wii controllers lobbed at it and eco mode turned off for all its life.

bought this and after much messing about with settings it seemed spot on and like an absolute bargain. however, started noticing audio drop out every now and then, especially with a lot going on. And when I tried running sound through my amp via hdmi it didn't work at all! returned as faulty to Argos no problems. Such a shame as it was so nearly a great TV!

Great find :smiley: heat added thanks

does it record onto USB/HDD?

I'm deany and I have read the T&C maybe you should:

https://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/StaticDisplay/includeName/customer_services_returns_m.htm
" in their original undamaged packaging, in a saleable condition,"
so once the box is opened, it becomes 2nd hand, used, unsaleable as 'new'. The seal is broken.
It CAN NOT be returned (if bought instore).
Sorry but you are wrong.

Fast tracked this, came in about an hour. Having trouble setting it up though. Not finding and channels when trying to tune it. This happen to anyone else?

Deany is wrong. Please read the T&C

So there's no blur on fast moving scenes? I've seen a TV with blur whilst footy os on and it's not nice. Soils the experience. If no motion blur, then I might bite at this tv.

impressive service from Argos

ordered at 16.42 - delivered at 19.30 .... on a Sunday evening

EliTom

Hi, I plugged in a HDMI from the TV to my graphics card (GTX 960 2GB) and just updated to the latest drivers. I set the settings to 60hz on Windows and everything is great. I have multiple Youtube/Netflix/Browser windows open and do some development in Eclipse and I've not noticed any tearing or blurring. I'm not a hardcore gamer but I've run GTA 5 at near 4K (something like 2500 x 1400 don't know specific but due to gfx memory can't really really run at 4k) with 30hz and it's stunning although not running on high specs. I've not tried running at 60hz with games but 30hz is great.

who's wrong me or him?

Here's the most important question... How's the picture and motion response in person?

I tend to buy all of my tv's from Richer sounds as they're great and offer the 5 year warranty. But at this ridiculous price, this is hard to resist as long as standard/HD tivo and blu rays look good on it.

Sorry, you are wrong!

thanks.. great advice from the community as usual... ill be waiting for something with pc level chroma support and hdr... as i will be using it on a pc.. cheers guys

Does anyone know if there has been a fix for the occasional black screen on HD channels?

Website is down. Anyone got the code to work?

Need something for decent gaming... I'm guessing this won't be ideal as TV's like these tend to have some sort of lag?

Damn it! Ive bought one even though I know I havent got a use for it!!

Bangin'. Given it a try, let's see how it goes.

Comes with a dongle.

Got to be at least 14 days because you can even return it opened then if you bought it online.

How long does that last?! Bought mine on Thursday?

Is that the reason why its cheap because it has no HDR and HDMI 2.0a? If so how can we class this as a deal then?

Is this TV already obsolete because it has no HDR and no HDMI 2.0a? Before you buy this contact the manufacturer to see whether HDR and HDMI 2.0a can be included in the future by a firmware update.

Trying to find a reason to ditch my 5 year old samsung, the picture will be better with this but i love the sound on my samsung. I know a soundbar will be essential with this. Whats the energy consumption like on this? thats the only thing that might swing me right now.

What can the wifi be used for without smart options?

"We are sorry but all your items are currently out of stock at your local warehouse". :disappointed:

she just said the computer would not accept it

just bit the bullet .....

impressed that they offer delivery tonight - as in on a Sunday at no extra chrage

EliTom

Just ti update, went instore they refused to accept code TV10 :disappointed:

I absolutely should not have bought this, but I've wanted an upgrade to my old 24" 1080p Bush for a few years, and this price was just too good.

Anyone know Argos' policy with express collect?
I bought the TV once but they accidentally charged me full price, so I just ordered another one.
I've already paid for both, can I just refuse the full price one and they'll refund me?

thank you

Not in stock for delivery so it seems!

Anyone know when the code expiry is?

+1 I forgot to mention this

If viewing from nine feet away is there going to be much difference between how a 4k picture (fed from 4k source) looks compared to a 1080 picture?

​hi how do you connect it for 4k at 60hz.. my understanding is that is that it would need dual link dvi or display port or hdmi v2...
also whats it like for display lag.. as i play fps games. and display blurring?..
thanks .. really appreciate your advice. cheers.

"people like me'' slightly condescending of you actually.

Its very difficult to imagine a huge TV holding a tape measure (I expect some people may still measure horizontally as well), the size of the TV was one of scores of items on the 'tick list' that need to be taken into consideration.
A TV is a major purchase.

With regard to you relying heavily on reviews:

http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/oct/24/twitter-campaign-targets-fake-tripadvisor-restaurant-reviews
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/18/amazon-sues-1000-fake-reviewers
http://fortune.com/2015/10/19/amazon-fake-reviews/
etc etc etc

Ive got one of these as a PC monitor and it's great. Had one since the Christmas deal when they were 299. Have no idea what 4.2.2 chroma is but I game in 4k on mine and it's great.

Glad you liked it

Well as they supply the dimensions, I can't see how "It's bigger than I thought" as being valid.

It just seems an excuse for not planning your buy. Maybe people like you is why Argos have had to take this stance!?

The only reason I can think of is poor(er) sound than expected. Although I very rarely buy something that has no reviews. So you are likely to be aware of the issue.

86 comments, most of which don't help me at all when I'm considering buying this. But your comment is by far and away the most irrelevant comment. If there was even a hint of humour I'd be OK with that. But no.

Appears to be a 4:2:0 chroma device, so not really suitable for a PC monitor where the main use is desktop apps - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-43put4900-43-inch-4k-ultra-hd-tv-299-49-399-55-499-argos-2359881?page=10#comments

Anyone know if argos are still doing the £10 voucher with purchases over £100 ?
And do they send it to you by email after correction/delivery?

so cheap but is it abit big for the bedroom? Got a 24inch in there at the mo which is 2 small.

Not sure about this tv or Samsung UE32J5100 32 Inch

Audio visual equipment especially the size of these things nowadays is very subjective, emotions can overtake rational thinking.

I tend to play safe on larger purchases to avoid buyers remorse and buy from a "No quibble" retailer.

This is why I HATE buying a car.

"I still can't see why you would need to return it if it's not faulty/not as described. I can't think when I have ever done this." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1y-kMPNcM

Oh dear, I bit! Been keeping an eye out for a low priced 4k set. This one has had some good reviews and good comments on the other HUKD thread, so why not? :smiley:

If this is going to be used as a monitor it needs chroma 4:4:4 at [email protected], he also needs to check the lag.

Has anyone moved from or had an LG 42LN543V / 540V from a couple of years ago from Richer Sounds / Currys?

How does this compare picture quality wise?

I liked the sat connector on the LG, but the dimming issue when shifting to / from dark scenes is really annoying me!

But the manager might not just hand you your refund anyway. So you still have all the hassle of making calls and sending letters to head office if the manager won't play ball. So you still have your "confrontation" anyway.

I still can't see why you would need to return it if it's not faulty/not as described. I can't think when I have ever done this. So do you have any reasons?

can it be used on click and collect or delivery only? Alternatively, can one use a gift card online as i have 50 quid gift card that I could use with this? Cheers

Looking at it there are very good reviews as well.

Shame my 8+ year old 720p Hitachi TV somebody gave me is still going strong.

I take it this tv is true 4k and not simply a upscaled screen?

Nice TV for PS4K :smile:

Sorry if its not faulty and you are saying it is that is lying plain and simple.
There is "confrontation" if you are being told by the manager that "the TV cant be returned due to their open box policy", this could lead to an unpleasant unnecessary discussion, over an expensive item.
Argos instore returns policy is NOT a returns policy, if the box is OPENED you cant return it, simple.
Your last comment is very funny nice one!

All this though saved by paying 3.95 and buying online with "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" cover.

it is not lying really is it, and there is no confrontation with anyone, under 30 days they have to offer you a refund or replacement, and if you were really worried just reserve all the stock of that item instore, then they have no option but to refund :smiley:

but each to their own

I dont like lying it can end up biting you in the bum.
What comes around goes around.
Why do you need to lie anyway, you shouldn't have to?.
So for others who like me don't like lying or confrontation with the Argos branch manager:
IMPORTANT
*****Don't buy instore pay the extra approx 4 quid and benefit from "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs, otherwise you cant take it back due to box being opened = possible BUYERS REMORSE*****
BUY ONLINE

Anyone used this as a pc monitor?

TV 10

how do you use the code instore BTW?

a return policy does not affect your consumer rights, you are legally allowed to return faulty equipment for a full refund and there is nothing they can say....

Just tell them it is faulty

what's the Hz at 4k?

Couldn't get free delivery for some reason, so it's getting delivered this evening - cheaper than driving to store.
Cheer OP :-)

I'm so tempted. Moving into a new house next month. This might be a good welcome home present for me.

How's this for watching footy? Any blur during fast paced scenes?

How was the hdmi issue resolved? Is it download a software onto a USB stick and update? No smart features so assuming that would be the only way.

Personally I still enjoy watching some films in 3D. The biggest issue with 3D was the industry itself who tried to make everything 3D for a while usually with fairly poor post conversion (there have been some films that were post converted that real effort was put in so the end product isn't too bad) which saw people having a poor experience which helped bring people to the anti 3D camp. Films actually shot in 3D by a director who embraces it and plans it (and doesn't just use it for cheap 'gags') can be much more engaging though, Avatar is the perfect example. I saw this in 2d first and I wasn't all that impressed, it's a fairly weak film and the charachters weren't that engaging but when I saw it in 3D it drew me in better and it was both more impressive visually but it was more immersive and it was easier to engage with the characters.

Even if many don't want it though it's crazy how many to makers seem to be phasing it out on the lower end. It can't be that expensive to include these days seeing as most of the hardware elements needed for 3D are still used in non-3D sets

really want one of these for some casual pc gaming, anyone got any idea about the game lag? cant seem to find much about it

thanks for posting tho!

Anyone who own this able to post the dimensions of it with stand attached.

Any good for gaming?

seems a few people have said it makes a nice monitor on the old thread http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-43put4900-43-inch-4k-ultra-hd-tv-299-49-399-55-499-argos-2359881?page=28#comments

I might buy this one for bedroom. I'm off to give foot massage to GF. :stuck_out_tongue:

Definitely. Perhaps I'm just trying to be greedy by trying to get the TV at 10% off then the 10% Quidco also!

Cheeeaaaappppp :confused:

I have returned items to argos yes, in perfect condition but as the box was opened and 2nd hand I had issues and an unpleasant feeling of 'confrontation' which most folk can do without especially when buying an expensive long term purchase.
Argos have a very misleading returns policy. Back in the 80s and 90s they were 'No quibble' now they quibble.

TBH I would use the express pickup service and the TV10 code rather than relying on quidco !

EliTom

It does indeed. But payment instore should pay 10% Quidco at the moment. Not sure if they'll let you apply the code at the counter.

Hardly any 4k content exists at the moment. Most of the 4k content is upscaled from 2k. But i guess its still worth to buy it now as it will last a long time.

Factory Fresh ??? It has to be undamaged packaging in saleable condition. Have you actually ever returned anything to Argos, it's quite simple really. Under 30 days with receipt they give your money back, half of the time they don't even open the box let alone inspect.

I'm just saying you cant return it once you have opened the box if you buy instore. Better to have some "rights" and buy online.
If you are CERTAIN you will be happy fine.
Most folk don't fall into that category especially with a TV, and £265 maybe a lot of money to be unhappy for years to come.

Just know that hardly any 4k content exists at the moment. A lot of it is up scaled from 2k.

This is an excellent price, heat added!

How can it be in A1 condition if you have opened the box? its no longer factory fresh.

code works for store collection if you pay up front for the express collection service

just tried it !

not to convince the Missus we "need" a new TV !!

and still checking reviews

anyone know if this is one of those faux / fake / pseudo 4K panels ..... vestel panel?

EliTom

I don't see this as an issue. I would be buying the TV based on reviews and specification because I need a TV. Not because it's something to play with on a Sunday afternoon.
So the only reason I would be returning it is because it's not fit for purpose so the above does not matter.

Is the Quidco instore 10% off still working? Can this be combined with TV10 code?? Heat added.

Yes so as long as you keep it in A1 condition and package it up as new you can return it. :smile:

see my post #31 thanks

Firmware upgrade I just tested seems to have fixed my HDMI glitch.

Just tested... It appears the issue is resolved with new firmware. Will edit post.

Item can be returned if unused and back in original packaging. Read the T&C's :man:

Sorry you are wrong: Item Can Not Be Returned If The Box Is Opened see their T&C

https://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/StaticDisplay/includeName/customer_services_returns_m.htm
" in their original undamaged packaging, in a saleable condition,"

Yes, they are. But it's only certain devices that cause the issues. Ones that have a weird standby state. My NOw Tv box and someone else HIMAX Freeview. My Nvidia shield and an HDMI switcher with TIVO/XBOX and something else in it doesn't have that problem.... Oh wait, why haven't I put the Now Tv through the switcher... Hmmmm

Argos have a 30 day refund policy if you change your mind - purchased instore or online

The firmware update on 11th March didn't mention it in release notes and I haven't yet tested it. I suppose I could go and do that...

IMPORTANT
*****Don't buy instore pay the extra approx 4 quid and benefit from "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs, otherwise you cant take it back due to box being opened = possible BUYERS REMORSE*****
BUY ONLINE

312px/pence <3

I have a tonne of functions I never touch on my modern tech but it's nice to know you have the option to use it if need be.

Its in the OP. Code: TV10

I have a 3D TV, the novelty wore off after a few films. There just inst enough content to watch and standard channels are not even broadcast in 3D.

I know it's not that popular but it's a shame they don't include 3D as standard on all TVs now.

Reading that it sounds like lots of people are getting hdmi glitch issues...

Isn't there a firmware update released to fix this?

Here's all the info you need to know about this to from when it was first posted at Christmas. http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-43put4900-43-inch-4k-ultra-hd-tv-299-49-399-55-499-argos-2359881

I bought it. Picture is great. No Smart TV. 4K looks great (Netflix, YouTube and downloaded files) Mines suffers from the weird HDMI fault/glitch but only with a NOW TV box I hardly use.

EDIT: New March 11th firmware has fixed HDMI issue for me. Bonus

Nice find

So many pixels for so little cash. Heat.

Lucky you!!!

Does it have smart features? Doesn't say on the specifications.

OK folks , what is 4k . using a small HD ready telly at the moment with a freeview hd box . is anything broadcast in anything better than free view HD

Code working on most of TV purchases.

How did you get the free delivery?? I can't get it to work on mine?? Only £3.95 for delivery today.

I bought this a couple of days ago after the previous post, and so far it seems excellent value!

any reviews links?

insane price for a 4k telly