A cracking price for a great piece of kit if you're not fussed about the extra features of the Nest v3
TCB/Quidco grants you £1.25 off making it £118.74 which is the cheapest it's been
down from £133.99
- biggysilly
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souljacker to pnaylor39
19 Apr 1617#4
markosborne13
19 Apr 1613#2
I believe the word " thermostat " should be a big clue
Latest comments (46)
RedBull1985
9 May 16#46
ordered and had mine installed today. i used https://nest.com/uk/widget/pro-finder/ to find an engineer and they also did some minor plumbing work for me, very happy with the service and product so far!
thekudos
4 May 16#45
we had top or the range Worcester bosch boiler fitted when we moved in but plumber have us a cheap crap thermostat. finally got the nest *that we bought three months ago) installed yesterday and can now control the heat from my phone before I wake up (instead of finding the awful control box and adjusting that).
allyathletic78
30 Apr 16#44
Yeah I think you are right. the jury is to still out. It will take a month or so then I can make an informed conclusion. but one thing. ..... its definitely the best looking thermostat out there . I like how it lights up as you walk past it.
Evostance
26 Apr 161#43
Give it time, if you've just had it installed, then its just a normal thermostat with remote control until it finishes learning.
allyathletic78
26 Apr 16#42
Just has a nest 3rd generation installed. it's good but not as good as nest make it out to be. it's all marketing. it is a useful product but there are cheaper alternatives that do a similar job.
Begize
20 Apr 161#41
I fitted mine myself and it's exactly the same as fitting any thermostat to a boiler. Basically there is a box you connect to the boiler and this provides the wireless connection to the thermostat itself. The box has two wires for power and two or three wires to control the boiler coming on and off (depending on how your boiler works). The instructions with it are pretty clear, took me less than an hour and that included all the "IT" bit of getting it setup and working on my home network as well.
Begize
20 Apr 16#40
No, they're not dropping support for Nest devices, see the replies above for some more info. Nest is a money earner for Alphabet. Revolv was a business they acquired purely to get the technology, staff and customer base. They've merged it into their "works with Nest" programme and offered the existing users compensation.
modilwar
20 Apr 16#39
It's not super trivial but I know some people have done a DIY job.
Currently not using a thermostat, is this a DIY job (I know nothing about plumbing or electrics) or get a plumber \ sparkie involved?
Nizanator
20 Apr 16#37
I would stay away from Nest - It seems that Google is slowly stopping support for Nest devices. Since a lot of the features are cloud based, if Google drops support for them theyre essentially useless.
They've already stopped support for their 'Revolv' device (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2016/04/05/nest-to-brick-revolv-smart-home-devices.html)
Wouldn't take the risk IMO, since Google can brick your device on a dime
Jaybeam
20 Apr 16#36
No you are wrong he was replying (sarcastically) to barchelsea who was asking a genuine question!
bouncy99
20 Apr 161#35
well i hope not, i own a v2 :wink:
Begize
20 Apr 16#34
They pulled Revolvr after buying the company to get the technology, staff and customer base. Cynical, but typical of this sector, Microsoft do it all the time. They've offered the Revolvr customers compensation.
It's pretty unlikely they will pull support for the thermostat any time soon as it's making money and that division of Alphabet / Google needs all the money it can get at the moment. Also, given the efforts they are putting in to making things like Hue work with Nest and that this particular version of the thermostat is on offer because they have released a new one, I can't see them "bricking" it just yet.
Begize
20 Apr 16#33
If you mean Nest then probably not. There have been various stories circulating but they are based on limited facts.
What we do know is that the Moonshot division of Alphabet (which Nest is part of) is losing money. Maybe a lot of money. Nest is one of the few companies in that division making money but probably not as much as they forecast to last year (industry sources estimated anywhere between $300 and $700 million), so they are under pressure to bring in more.
A new guy was brought in at the top to try and push things along, but his apparent micro-management style has not gone down well and a number of key staff have left. The media have reported this as high staff turnover, but looking at the stats, it's below 1% which, particularly in this sector, where new startups are poaching people all the time, is low.
Personally, I don't think Nest are going anywhere.
modilwar
20 Apr 16#32
Well I'm replacing both my "dumb" thermostats (1 of which controls hot water and one heating zone, the other one controls a 2nd heating zone)
My main reason for replace them with a Nest for the the convenience of the smart features, app supports and the fact the nests will allow my physical controllers to be placed in a more accessible place instead of where they currently are in the closet on the 2nd floor of my house.
I don't know if I'll break even on my investment let alone save money on my energy bills, as I am already quite frugal with my energy use and regular compare best priced tariffs and switch.
scottz17
20 Apr 16#31
Wish I had an expensive knob... Keep getting emails for them...
andrewgrumpmeister
20 Apr 16#30
No. Nest however, who knows. but definitely not Hive.
kinnth
20 Apr 16#29
It's intelligent. Just think if you setup your heating to come on at 5pm off at 8pm each day and then one day a week you go out for dinner so irrelevant to heat your house, Nest works this out and stops heating your house saving you money. Over 1 year that probably 50-100 saving thus paying for itself in 1 year!
kinnth
20 Apr 16#28
Bought! I'm excited!
vindarosa
20 Apr 16#27
Aren't alphabet about to dump hive?
neilm22
20 Apr 16#26
I am interested in Hive but not at £250. Amazon did have it as deal of the day previously for £185. Any ideas on how to get it cheaper than £250? I would buy it today for £185!
Aquaslim
20 Apr 16#25
I was considering to install Nest or Hive but went for Tado smart thermostat. Great gadget...
nandunanu
20 Apr 16#24
hahahaha..mother Clucker
bargainnicka
20 Apr 16#23
Ive got a 3rd Gen Nest for handling heating and hot water and love it.
We also have an extension with underfloor heating running from the same boiler for which Im thinking about adding a 2nd Gen nest in place of the current (dumb) programmable stat.
Obviously UF heating has a very different heating profile to traditional radiators (i.e. need to start much earlier and stop at lower temp to avoid overshoot).
Has anyone experience of 2 zones controlled by 2 Nests - one with traditional rads and the other wet UF heating.
Does each Nest learn differently (e.g. the True Radiant feature) and switch them on/off accordingly or if it considers the house as a whole ?
thanks
godsakes
20 Apr 16#22
Yes most people know what a thermostat is, but given you can get bog standard ones for about a tenner what's so super awesome about this one to justify over a ton extra? will it save you £££s in the next 5 years?
Evostance
20 Apr 16#21
They would still work. The only thing they don't do is allow for a remote connection.
As for them pulling the plug, this principle applies to anything in technology. Apple stop updating an iPhone after 2 years - your left with an "outdated brick", Philips pull the servers for Hue and your left with 'normal light bulbs'.
It applies to IoT more so than others, but the problem is still there for all technology
bouncy99
20 Apr 16#20
fall out the wrong side of the bed? Point is, if nest pulled support for Revolvr, the could pull support for nest thermostat, and then what do you have, an expensive knob stuck to your wall that doesnt do anything.
barchelsea
19 Apr 16#1
what's it for?
benjai to barchelsea
19 Apr 16#7
Cooking eggs.
w_orbit to barchelsea
20 Apr 161#19
It's for catching fools.... [slam] got one :stuck_out_tongue:
bouncy99
20 Apr 161#16
i wonder how long until nest brick these aswell like they did that IOT router.
Evostance to bouncy99
20 Apr 161#18
You mean the "router" that was a hub, that Nest stopped supporting 2 years ago, that they also stopped selling 2 years ago because it was redundant, that had a very low amount of users
mario999
20 Apr 16#17
I have the Hive which is similar and works great. Does Nest do anything extra?
GeoDogger
20 Apr 16#15
Any deals on the stand?
hornetsam
20 Apr 161#14
lucky you, I just laid an egg....
jayofcastleford
20 Apr 16#12
is it a direct replacement
sancheez to jayofcastleford
20 Apr 16#13
For what?
That is entirely dependent on your current system.
In most cases, yes.
tafarrant
20 Apr 16#11
I think you linked to the wrong reply.
@modilwar I am with npower but currently use a remote (not smart) thermostat to turn on and off the heating, is it worth the £130
Thanks
markosborne13
19 Apr 1613#2
I believe the word " thermostat " should be a big clue
Jaybeam to markosborne13
20 Apr 161#10
I think he was asking what the difference is between this and a normal home thermostat!!!
pill
20 Apr 16#8
I'm not familiar with this product, is the latest version the Nest 3 much better and worth the £250for getting the thermostat and fitting (direct from Nest.come)
P :smiley:
modilwar to pill
20 Apr 161#9
This is the 2nd generation model, which only let's you control heating. The 3rd generation model also controls hot water for those who have a hot water tank system.
I have personally bought one 3rd gen model from nPower (my energy supplier) for £130 and have purchased a 2nd gen model from John Lewis after price matching with screwfix.
I got 2 thermostats as my house has a zoned heating system and needs 2 termostats to controller the temperature in the 2 separate zones.
georgeduncantrad
19 Apr 16#6
Maybe we should take a tip from the Mexicans to stay warm this winter. They don't need fancy thermostats. They just use chicken fajitas...
jasee
19 Apr 162#5
I tried to cluck as hard as I could but nothing happened :disappointed:
pnaylor39
19 Apr 16#3
Clues in heading "Thermostat" . Here's an idea - Try clucking on link for more infomation
Opening post
TCB/Quidco grants you £1.25 off making it £118.74 which is the cheapest it's been
down from £133.99
- biggysilly
Top comments
Latest comments (46)
I'm personally getting a plumber/electrician to install mine on Saturday. I used https://nest.com/uk/widget/pro-finder/ to find one local to me.
They've already stopped support for their 'Revolv' device (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2016/04/05/nest-to-brick-revolv-smart-home-devices.html)
Wouldn't take the risk IMO, since Google can brick your device on a dime
It's pretty unlikely they will pull support for the thermostat any time soon as it's making money and that division of Alphabet / Google needs all the money it can get at the moment. Also, given the efforts they are putting in to making things like Hue work with Nest and that this particular version of the thermostat is on offer because they have released a new one, I can't see them "bricking" it just yet.
What we do know is that the Moonshot division of Alphabet (which Nest is part of) is losing money. Maybe a lot of money. Nest is one of the few companies in that division making money but probably not as much as they forecast to last year (industry sources estimated anywhere between $300 and $700 million), so they are under pressure to bring in more.
A new guy was brought in at the top to try and push things along, but his apparent micro-management style has not gone down well and a number of key staff have left. The media have reported this as high staff turnover, but looking at the stats, it's below 1% which, particularly in this sector, where new startups are poaching people all the time, is low.
Personally, I don't think Nest are going anywhere.
My main reason for replace them with a Nest for the the convenience of the smart features, app supports and the fact the nests will allow my physical controllers to be placed in a more accessible place instead of where they currently are in the closet on the 2nd floor of my house.
I don't know if I'll break even on my investment let alone save money on my energy bills, as I am already quite frugal with my energy use and regular compare best priced tariffs and switch.
We also have an extension with underfloor heating running from the same boiler for which Im thinking about adding a 2nd Gen nest in place of the current (dumb) programmable stat.
Obviously UF heating has a very different heating profile to traditional radiators (i.e. need to start much earlier and stop at lower temp to avoid overshoot).
Has anyone experience of 2 zones controlled by 2 Nests - one with traditional rads and the other wet UF heating.
Does each Nest learn differently (e.g. the True Radiant feature) and switch them on/off accordingly or if it considers the house as a whole ?
thanks
As for them pulling the plug, this principle applies to anything in technology. Apple stop updating an iPhone after 2 years - your left with an "outdated brick", Philips pull the servers for Hue and your left with 'normal light bulbs'.
It applies to IoT more so than others, but the problem is still there for all technology
That is entirely dependent on your current system.
In most cases, yes.
@modilwar I am with npower but currently use a remote (not smart) thermostat to turn on and off the heating, is it worth the £130
Thanks
P :smiley:
I have personally bought one 3rd gen model from nPower (my energy supplier) for £130 and have purchased a 2nd gen model from John Lewis after price matching with screwfix.
I got 2 thermostats as my house has a zoned heating system and needs 2 termostats to controller the temperature in the 2 separate zones.