Just about to run out...hope this is national.

is this not expensive for peanut butter?

If it's the 100% peanut stuff without palm oil, salt and other additives then £4/kilo isn't bad.

But definitely doesn't come in the glass jar as shown :smile:

I have to say this is the worst peanut butter I have ever had. perhaps I had a bad jar (but I doubt it) but it was utterly revolting. Far too oily with an unpleasant taste and texture. I chucked it in the bin after trying it and went back to "normal" stuff. You can tell how bad I think this stuff is by the fact I signed up just to comment!

Can someone let us know if it's not just the one store? Love this stuff!

This.

Sure, it doesn't taste or feel quite like "normal" stuff, but you have to appreciate that's because it's not got a load of added salt and emulsifiers that alter the flavour and texture.

Just stir it up for a couple of minutes when you start a new tub, and then a quick stir before each use.

This is national because Amazon have price matched but only with the ridiculous Amazon Pantry option

no sugar and salt

Muscle bros believe it gives them massive gains

Interesting ..... hmmmmmmmm, I suppose the stronger concentration of Peanuts per 1Kg that of the cheaper variants says a lot in itself I guess?.

But why in particular is it preferred by Vegetarians, & Vegans, & the like, over that of the cheaper alternatives?.

What does this have that the others don't?.

I don't get it?, lol, thanx. :-)

Ahhhhhhhhh!, I hear you, thanx. :-)

It's just 100% peanut butter. The same as you can get a low quality pork sausage with only 50% meat, or a good quality sausage with 95% meat.

If you want 100% peanut butter without the added nasties then buy this.

Aside from that, this is an excellent deal, I usually pay > £5 per 1kg. hot.

I never said I didn't understand :wink:

Love this stuff!!!

Because of the fact it doesn't have palm oil. Palm oil production has created a lot of controversy over the fact that it destroys rainforests. I recently saw an article that looked at how Palm Oil farmers where beating Oragutans to death with sticks and burning them because they needed to remove them from the area to produce them palm oil. Don't..Eat...Palm...Oil for God's sake.

Vegetarians and vegans like it because it doesn't have palm oil, the production of which destroys the habitat of wildlife.

Skinny fitness fanatics like it because of peanut butter's high protein/fat content and the lack of sugar and salt in this brand.

Hipsters like it because it doesn't taste as nice as normal peanut butter and costs four times as much.

£8.22 for 2 x natural crunchy peanut butter

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Meridian-Natural-Crunchy-Peanut-Butter/dp/B00A79CJNA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460534342&sr=8-1&keywords=meridian+peanut+butter

There's an ethical point about palm oil because bad palm oil is grown from trees planted where things like rain forest or precious natural habitats for cool animals have been chopped down.

Problem is palm oil makes it edible (in my opinion) I've had a couple of mouthfuls of meridian and it was like eating glue, further problem is the amount of people who think all palm oil is bad.. people like whole earth make it with sustainable palm oil without the deforestation issues and that really does taste like normal peanut butter but still with no nasties.

Yeah this.. good palm oil exists.

In fact good palm oil (ie sustainable and verified) does more good than no palm oil at all because it gives farmers in the region something to farm. Just saying don't eat palm oil pretty much guarantees a market for bad palm oil.

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2014/nov/26/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-sustainable-palm-oil

Of course sustainable to you or me is very different to big business, I've always suspected that it's a rubber stamping exercise, then low and behold http://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/IOI-Group-Suspended-From-RSPO-for-Violation-of-Palm-Oil-Sourcing-Standards.html?section=Business%20News&tracking=Business%20News%20-%20Related%20Articles

mike

Never said there weren't issues, my point is just pretending it doesn't exist or focussing on peanut butter when palm oil is so prevalent is pointless.

Just because someone screws up you don't just give up.. here's a slightly more positive spin.. http://wholeearthfoods.com/palm-oil/

I did give it a good stir, perhaps not as long as two minutes, but I'll stick by my opinion :smiley:. Still.. if people are purchasing on moral grounds (the lack of palm oil), or if they just prefer it, then why not (and it's a good price). But if that's not the case, and people are buying for nutrition purposes, you may as well go for something like Whole Earth (similar protein and salt, less sugar, "sustainable" palm oil, far, far nicer - in my opinion) or just eat peanuts.

It always makes me laugh when people don't like the natural product and have to add ingredients to make it bearable. Personally I'm happy to put up with chewy peanut butter, especially on toasted crumpets, or fresh bread from your HUKD Panasonic bread machine, admittedly I never have a Meridian peanut butter sandwich without a drink, but it's the only peanut butter that tastes as good as those with added salt. Palm oil does nothing for the peanut butter other than make it softer and cheaper to produce, Whole Earth tell you it's to lengthen the shelf life, but this is bull, Meridian peanut butter has as long a shelf life.

I don't subscribe to the sustainable palm oil concept, firstly I don't trust the big businesses (see my last post) and secondly palm oil production has only significantly increased in the last few years, so what did the farmers farm before? It's not like a steel worker from Wales, who've been working in the business for generations, these palm oil farmers saw a quick profit and jumped at it, which you can't blame them, but surely there's something better to be farming that is consistent with maintaining the rain forests and the orangutans.

mike

It took the organisation responsible for policing this, 6 years to suspend this company - how much faith do you have that the other members are legit? Thankfully Unilever one of their biggest customers, plans to stop using the dodgy palm oil within 3 months, so at least they can act fast enough.

Palm oil is one of those marmite things, you either are happy or not, but it makes me laugh when you read it's an essential ingredient in many products, yet it's the mid 60s when it was first used, and really only in the last 5 years, where the use has exploded.

mike

​This is great product, takes gettin used to as the normal smooth stuff is all i bought before. Wont buy again because cba to stir up each time and use more than i need because its all stuck on the knife.

The knife is the best part, bonus peanut butter

Its healthier than say Sun Pat PB but I prefer Sun Pat because I like the sugar & salt & palm oil effect.

I apologise :neutral_face:

​It would be so much easier if it just came in portions like those hotel butters :smiley:

love this stuff....it's just a bit addictive!

I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm saying burying your head in the sand and saying all palm oil is bad so I'll eat one specific kind of peanut butter is hardly the solution, vaguely helpful but doesn't resolve the core issue.

I personally prefer trying to resolve things rather than taking my bat and ball home.

Yes some of the farmers involved might be dodgy, yes some sustainable palm oil might not be, yes some of the farmers perhaps maybe ought to do something else.

Problem is the world is how it is, people need to eat and feed their families etc.. it's like the illegal logging/hunting debates.. We're all agreed that it's wrong but there is enough demand in the world (much of it from outside the UK obviously) to tempt enough people to do wrong.. if you're on the poverty line ethics tend to go out of the window.. so what do we do? Complain about it and make no real change or engage.. figure out what the best option is and push for that.. eg sustainable farming, green energy, sustainable forestry.. they all have issues, you don't just give up or stick your fingers in your ears.

I think the removal of palm oil is highly commendable so if you like it then awesome.. I personally can't stand it like that but I do like peanut butter so what do I do? Stop eating it.. yeah I can do that but most won't.. or source things that have the texture I like but have a fighting chance of both being sustainable and perhaps influencing others to do the same?

I know what I'd rather do.

I think it's great :confused:

The king of PB. Hot!!