You're right it's not a panacea, it won't cure inherent genetic defects, however trying to adopt the healthiest microbiome that science currently knows about is a good place to start. Also in terms of obesity being contagious, that's a tongue in cheek line I'm sure. Science has transplanted the microbiome of mice that are afraid and mice that aren't and the transplanted mice took on the behavioral characteristics of the other mice. Anyway it's an exciting and emerging science and there's so much for us to discover. It's certain that the microbiome is essential and modification of it affects health.

Suffer with allergies all year round, so take one every day. Very grateful. Best value I've had to date on Loratadine.

Putting me on down to a weak asthma inhaler controller and tablets was cost - using my ventolin for 20-30 a day on top. NHS overruled my private treatment and my health went into decline. I fought and fought 3 years to get my Seretide back, no go. Got my private files sent to surgery again and said "prescribe or sue... Your choice" needless to say I walked out with Seretide reinstated to this day, this was after the liver issue. Never a liver issue before or since.

Putting me on down to a weak asthma inhaler controller and tablets was cost - using my ventolin for 20-30 a day on top. NHS overruled my private treatment and my health went into decline. I fought and fought 3 years to get my Seretide back, no go. Got my private files sent to surgery again and said "prescribe or sue... Your choice" needless to say I walked out with Seretide reinstated to this day, this was after the liver issue. Never a liver issue before or since.

These are 66p for 30 in the pharmacy at my local hospital

I wasn't questioning his credentials, but a couple of things do raise some red flags, I was questioning some of the assertions and conclusions. A lot of the posts that I looked at suggest to me that the microbiome is essentially a panacea.


It's looking likely that the microbiome is important but this is a rapidly developing field. It's certainly interesting and could lead to some new treatments and guidelines but we can't jump to too many conclusions, at least not yet.


On the other hand maybe I'm just hoping that daily frozen stool pills won't become a recommendation. :smiley:

The USA government spent $115 million on The Human Microbiome project. The human body has 23,000 genes, the microbiome many many times that, research indicates that the bacteria genes affect human health. We are 10% human 90% bacteria is the tag line, probably not entirely true. Anyway the research is out there, the microbiome makes chemicals that are essential to humans, we live in synergy with the bacteria. The microbiome is quite amazing and yet we know relatively little about it. So far our research has found many amazing things about the microbiome such as two way communication between innate human and bacteria.

Check the qualifications of Dr Ayers, he's not a quack.

1STBUY10 is a 10% off plus free delivery code.

I think your treatments are more powerful so an improvement isn't surprising but good to hear. Stronger treatments aren't used immediately usually because they have more side effects and not simply cost. If you have an infection, you don't immediately get prescribed the most powerful and expensive antibiotic available. Your treatments contains steroids and small amounts of these will enter your bloodstream so it's not an entirely localised therapy. I don't see why cheaper inhalers and basic antihistamines could cause much liver damage and if so then any more than other treatments. I think they can be an issue if you already have liver damage or decreased liver function.

MSG likely isn't a significant issue in the vast majority of people as an E number is a substance that has been thoroughly tested. Vitamin C is another E number. Glutamatic acid is naturally found in foods like tomatoes and Parmesan. Glutamic acid is an amino acid which is found in most proteins and cells in your body. Googling ingredients can potentially lead to a variety of misinformation and scary sounding articles.

great thanks ordered 6

It will not let me use the code :disappointed:

I'm quite skeptical of anyone that seemingly deals in absolutes such as diet and gut bacteria is the cause of and solution to all disease. Also apparently obesity is contagious?!

Also the amount of allergens in ready made food EVEN healthy marketed, soya/egg is in most breads these days...

A flavouring called MSG has its own E number...proven to cause heart related issues, can be listed as its E number or mono sodium glutamate.


You are what you eat, spend a hour in the supermarket buying your usual stuff with a smartphone in hand googling
ingredients, sugar tax ? tip of the iceberg.

The NHS is falling to bits because we are all eating poisons to the human body.

G.P.s should not be paid £100K plus, but that's down to governments of the past. It's almost sickening that these jack of all trades master of none/some get paid this absurd amount of money.

I still of course trust science >

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The specialist I had on my liver stated the amount of people she had seen it turns out are taking anti-his tablets is very high, it was also her who stated it is cost over local treatment of the area with sprays. This was the top liver consultant in my trust. GP's pay for your prescription out their budget not a general NHS budget, GP's surgeries by most are private companies outsourced by NHS funding.

GP's keep costs down which can add further health issues later.

My liver was so bad I was repeatedly asked about my booze intake, which is low, when I got cranky about the continued asking was insinuating I was lying, the specialist looked at my prescription meds, cheap anti-his tablets and cheapest asthma tablets and inhalers.

I now am on the most expensive asthma treatment Seretide 250 inhaler and Flixonase. The cost to the nhs is massive in comparison, the improvement to my health even more massive.


A GP/NHS specialist is not god, I had to go private many times because their failures, failures were based on cost not best treatment, cheapest treatment.

But like most things what doesn't suit one person may suit another :neutral_face:

Cetrizine, nasty stuff, its side effects are higher than this stuff.


I use Flixonase now, £15 private prescription or nhs...you are best treating at source not via pills that go through your body, but tablets are cheaper for the NHS. Insist on the spray and treat the area not the whole body.

Flixonase Aqueous Nasal Spray



(I get it free in Scotland :smiley:)

Was prescribed cetirizine tablets from doc today, but managed to get 3 months worth for £2.67 from here delivered, cheers

Thank you, just order 6 packs - especially good with the free delivery code.

Customer service is a bit rubbish from this company, made a recent order & they sent me the wrong thing (dangerous even?) am still waiting for them to respond, customer service ticket just sat at 'being processed'.

I've just gone for the 12 pack at £9.01 ( works out 75p per pack ). Been waiting for the free delivery code to pop up again. Thanks op, voted hot just for the code ☺

Ask yourself why they are so cheap? don't go cheap on your health and well being.

If your gna take tabs for hayfever, Fexofenadine is the best. I use a nasal spray as a back up, i never use these cheap tabs.

Because generic tablets are cheap that's why,the same with anything,you pay more for brand names.

Its coming to that time of year again ...

Ordered thanks. Also Beconase nasal spray is £6 on there for anyone who uses it. Cheaper than amazon

The Cetrizine caused the problems you experienced, or this Loratadine? Or do you mean all anti-histamines? Did you use anything else to control your symptoms instead?

Non drowsy as opposed to cetirizine.

The sneezing season has started for me so thanks for posting!

Will definitely come in handy for Hayfever season. Thankyou Watson 44 for adding the extra information in.

Thanks. Didn't need 9 but purchased 3 packs instead with the free delivery code.

Single boxes for £0.89 also, which is a great buy - didn't really want the full 9 months worth!
Heat added

8.4% cashback with TCB for new customer too :smile:

Ordered, thank you

r they gonna sell u 9packs of 30.
if they do. bravo.

normal pharmacy would not.
For patient safety reasons.