Off course it has :smiley:

If you had bothered to read further on the page you will see that I already posted I hit the wrong number on my tablet.

Now let's dissect your comments.
This isn't 1st generation at all! OLED has been around for over 60 years, consumer electronics were using OLED displays in the 00 inc Mobiles, by the turn of the decade - HTC's Google Nexus One launched in Dec 2009, shipped the following January it was regarded as a fully functional mass market multimedia display tech. TV displays have been around in fully working form since around 2002 but the problem was the longevity of the displays as they tended to dim and lose colour balance very quickly, it was only nearer the end of the decade when manufacturers has managed reasonable lifetime of the displays.

LG launched consumer OLED in 2010 - 1st gen, nowhere near 2015 and as for comments about brightness it is well known than OLED tech hasn't been able to reach what LCD can but then again LCD tech can't get anywhere near the black levels OLED can at the same time as Max brightness so OLED will always give the more eye popping experience.

The next gen 2016 models panels have a boosted brightness along with better colour display - everything else is just firmware programming. You also tend to find that most people will take to a product comment when they have had issues, how many more 2015 buyers have been delighted with their TV's and also the issue of banding isn't just limited to OLED, plenty of LED TV's have suffered from the issue too.

I'll stand by my comment that currently you cannot buy a better TV than this for the money thank you very much

Remember Sky HD will look absolutely appalling on this TV! This is due to sky's compression bitrate. Google it and see for yourself, you are better sticking with OLED1080p save the £1,000 and buy a new one in a few years when there is 4K content!

Is this a true 10-bit HDR panel? It seems as if this is a 2015 model... HDR has only really taken off this year.
Also, can anyone elaborate on the quality of the upscaling of standard definition and HD content?
I couldn't find anything about the sky compression rate mentioned by one of the previous comments.

Another thing to bear in mind is, the price of this was around £1999 before Currys hiked it to £2999 under the advice of LG (when they realised that nobody else was producing OLEDs in 2016).

Richersounds had these on clearance due to the amount of returns, so might just steer clear as these were the first generation.

Just got one of these from my local seven oaks for 1750

Hi there Alan,

Thank you for your email regarding 55EF950V.

First of all, thank you for taking the time out of your day to contact us. I hope you are enjoying your day so far, and I would be more than happy to assist you with this.

I can confirm that the 55EF950V already supports HDR via streaming, however it does not support HDR via a HDMI input, due to hardware limitations, LG was looking into a simple software update but it was decided that the software would be to unstable to support HDR through the HDMI input.

I do hope that you have found this helpful, and should you need any more assistance, please do not hesitate to get back in touch and I will be happy to assist you further with this. If you need to reply, please click the additional questions link below.

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This is HDR capable through streaming but not through blu ray as the hdmi is not the required standard. They considered a software update but thought it was too unstable. I had this confirmed by LG as it was my tipping point for buying.

Nice, didn't see the HDR titles had started to roll out!
Still £600 for a blu ray player is a bit of a stretch :-D

Why can't you buy a UHD Blu Ray player and a HDR disc, there's 2 players on sale now along with some discs to go with it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-4K-Ultra-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B01CGC6JC2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462001805&sr=8-1&keywords=hdr+blu+ray+player

Just because you cannot notice it gives you no authority to say others don't and your point about the controller 50ms lag just add to the point. Someone who enjoys their FPS or Racing games can notice a difference, why do you think independent reviewers make such a point about it. If you have a 50ms lag on you controller and a 50ms lag on your TV that is going to give you at least 1/10 second between your input and it happening on screen, that is a huge delay. I can easily notice the difference between a TV in the low 20's and one of 50 ms. A pro gamer will try and reduce lag from every connection to reduce the overall cumulative lag as it is the cumulative lag that matters

There is evidence that this supports HDR10 over HDMI 2.0a http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55ef950v-201508264156.htm but its not like you can go out and buy a HDR UHD blu-ray player or disk to try it out!

If you're really looking for HDR support and you don't need a TV right now, I don't know why you'd not wait for the 2016 models with their dolby vision support, increased brightness and better gamut. No one knows where the market will go and if titles will include both HDR10 and Dolby Vision metadata or if you will get Dolby Vision only titles.

Netflix and Amazon obviously support HDR10 now and don't look to be dropping it, but I doubt they'll promise you that all HDR titles for the next 5 or so years will have HDR10 metadata and that they won't have Dobly Vision only titles.

But is it HDR stream thats why HDR activates on videos from Amazon and so on i suspect that its not HDR over HDMI. If you check Richersounds they describe a lot of TV's as HDR stream which means it will never be able to take full advantage of 4K blurays and other sources. Its a lot of money for a set that doesnt have HDMI 2.0a, Id want to know 100% before pulling the trigger on this set.

Mines still going strong, was in richer sounds yesterday and saw the OLED not this one i dont think it was £2199 it was next to a Samsung 4K set and all i can say is its a wonder Samsung sell any TV's the color on the OLED was eye popping the blacks were like ink it was unbelievable. The Samsung had a strange white tinge to the whole picture and looked washed out the OLED was that good i asked if it was a 4K bluray they were using and i was told it was a 1080p. Im that sold im having one as soon as i can convince the Missis that its better than our old £2500 champ the 8000 series Samsung. OLED here i come.

It is. The forums will confirm it, LG will confirm it and the TV confirms it. People who say it hasn't got HDR are wrong.

Oh right that's good then as this thread is confusing, some at the start are saying it isn't?

So does this have HDR or not?

I have this TV and can only comment on what I see. The picture looks amazing and had no issues at all with Sky HD. I occasionally game on it (xbox one) and it looks so much better than anything I have tried before. I can't notice any frame rate issues and I am sure that would only be noticeable by testing machines. With HDR, 4K , OLED and the latest hdmi ports your pretty future proofed so go for it!

Isn't the EF range part of LGs third generation of OLED screen?
Their first generation were the EA range, then came the EC range and then in 2015 the EF (flat) and EG (curved) range.
Now in 2016 we have the B6 (flat no 3D), C6 (curved, with 3D), E6 (premium design with sound bar and 3) and G6 (premium design with upgraded sound bar and brighter peak brightness.)

The only OLED screens relevant to this discussion are large screen (i.e. 50" and over) consumer displays.
(For example, Sony make small (32"?) industrial grade OLEDs but these are far more expensive than even the most expensive of the 2016 range of OLEDs which top out at £6k for the top of the range 65G6.)
Samsung were the first out of the gates with a large screen OLED with the KE55S9C back in 2013. That model didn't last long and was dropped soon after release. Hardly surprising as it was £7k, was by far the ugliest TV I have ever seen and was reputed to have had a number of issues. It also ushered in the age of the dreaded curve. :-( (Curves are easy to do with OLEDs so it was a way oif differentiating them. LCDs at that time could not be curved.)

LG were second to market with their OLED the 55EA980W. That was even more expensive than the Samsung at £8k. While Samsung dropped out of OLED due to the high costs and low yields, LG soldiered on. Each new generation of LG OLED seems to have brought quality improvements and reduced prices. (It appears that LG have greatly reduced the yield problem.)

So to me, the technology has moved on considerably. In just 2.5 years the price of a 55" OLED has dropped from £8k to £2k and the quality/level of technology has improved, e.g. 4k vs 1080p, HDR vs SDR.

£2k seems like a good price for the 55EF950V. I am not aware of any LCDs that are cheaper and better. Some of the latest LCDs with full array local dimming such as Panasonic 58dx902b, look very good but they are even more expensive than the LG OLED.

Personally would wait for the 2016 models or for currys and others to really try and clear this stock. The 2016 models have only started getting in stock the last week or so, so prices will still be high.

I heard currys not getting the new c6 or b6 models until June so they'll probably knock these down further then if they haven't sold them all!

£1999 for a piece of history??? lol

And it's clear that you never got anywhere nearer than the carpark pal!

Emphasis on the word "used"... The game has long passed you by my friend

Fella, I used to own an AV company!

Correct, it is also between 30ms and 60ms for the brain to react to what it has just processed visually too. How many people can start and stop a stopwatch in under 0.3 seconds? Not many and that's when even knowing what your are doing.

Calm down, I'm sure its not the first time you've been "corrected" in a public forum.
Also, you seem to be stuck in the past, nobody cares about your 10-year old chequered OLED history...
It's about the here and now, and right now, only the 2nd gen (2016) LGs are up to the task (at a premium cost).

But to correct you again, for the money, these 1st gen LGs have been surpassed by the 2016 HDR sets.
Try speaking to some real world AV professionals instead of googling Wikipedia. :smiley:

Problem is for most manufacturers is that LG are years ahead of the game when it comes to OLED in both tech and production, nobody can manufacture large OLED panels with the same manufacturing success rate per unit so it might take longer than 5 years before it is low(er) cost mainstream.

I'm not sure actually. I do know that last year's sets were definitely not 1st gen and most forum reviews I have seen were along the lines of "TV has issues, still wouldn't go back to LCD though". I don't know enough about the recent trend in everyone trying to out nit each other but from what I have read, it seems to be more of a new marketing term without much substance.

Here is what I think: OLED will always outperform LCD in dark conditions. LCD cannot reach black on a pixel by pixel basis. I expect that most flagship TVs will be OLED within 5 years. Samsung are getting back in the game and more brands are going to build TVs off LG's panels this year. The 950v isn't perfect but OLED is definitely where the future lies.

Find one bit of that copy and pasted smart @rse! Read the early reviews or the UB850 when it launched, absolutely slated for the issues it had and yet 6 months down the line it was recommended - guess LG must have been sneaking into people's houses and offices and swapping over displays while we all sleep....

I've had my eye on OLED tech for a very long time, seen its failings personally in electronics I've owned for the past 10 years pal and it's clear from your own posts you know jack to start with...

Cutting and pasting articles from Wikipedia only makes you come across as even more incompetent :laughing:
You haven't got a Scooby have you?.... "everything else is just firmware programming".... LOL

Great TV if not a gamer, with an input lag measured in reviews at 50 to 63 MS its off my list

If you had bothered to read further on the page you will see that I already posted I hit the wrong number on my tablet.

Now let's dissect your comments.
This isn't 1st generation at all! OLED has been around for over 60 years, consumer electronics were using OLED displays in the 00 inc Mobiles, by the turn of the decade - HTC's Google Nexus One launched in Dec 2009, shipped the following January it was regarded as a fully functional mass market multimedia display tech. TV displays have been around in fully working form since around 2002 but the problem was the longevity of the displays as they tended to dim and lose colour balance very quickly, it was only nearer the end of the decade when manufacturers has managed reasonable lifetime of the displays.

LG launched consumer OLED in 2010 - 1st gen, nowhere near 2015 and as for comments about brightness it is well known than OLED tech hasn't been able to reach what LCD can but then again LCD tech can't get anywhere near the black levels OLED can at the same time as Max brightness so OLED will always give the more eye popping experience.

The next gen 2016 models panels have a boosted brightness along with better colour display - everything else is just firmware programming. You also tend to find that most people will take to a product comment when they have had issues, how many more 2015 buyers have been delighted with their TV's and also the issue of banding isn't just limited to OLED, plenty of LED TV's have suffered from the issue too.

I'll stand by my comment that currently you cannot buy a better TV than this for the money thank you very much

You're wrong, this model was in the 2015 range, go check Richer Sounds, they had it on clearance about 5 months ago.
Let me educate you a tad, this model was the 1st generation of OLEDs, there is not a single review from buyers that doesn't include several negative points (go see Currys website). These first gen OLEDs are full of issues, many of which has resulted in people returning them in frustration.

Secondly, just because its OLED does not mean it is better all round. Some of the 2016 standard LED sets surpass OLED with HDR and better nits rate (brightness) than this model.

Hope this has been illuminating :wink:

I don't remember the 950 being 3k on Black Friday the 960 was though

I have the 65 inch version. No issues what so ever with sky hd. Picture is great.
Gaming on xbox one is like nothing before. Looks almost 3D.
Blu ray looks stunning. 4k netflix is slightly better than a Blu ray picture.
Not tried any HDR content yet, but I hear this is where OLED 4k excels.
The Blacks are incredible.

I got mine on black Friday for £2999 plus also got £300 cashback from quidco.

Ha ha, I doubt that will grace any retailer and is just a willy waver from LG.

The smaller sized G6 is porn dressed in electronics tho, glad of the silly price tag tho as it stops me buying something unnecessary atm...

Decent review for the 65" model http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/65ef950v-201512284219.htm will give most potential purchasers an idea of what to expect. Unfortunately a little out of my price bracket, once they're knocking these out for £500 with 5 year warranty then I'm in :wink:

What, you're not going to include the £25K 77" G6?

OLED tech has been available for over 6 years now, by nature of how it works a screen is VERY unlikely to fail as each pixel works independently of the next.

Bloody tablet, hit 6 not 5! The 2016 models are just shy of £3k - over £7k.

Doubt it.

​it's not as expensive as you would think! see who covers the John Lewis warranty locally to you. we have a company near me who does Fenwick and they will quote you the cost of a fix for £20 which is deducted from the cost. my Samsung 48 inch which was £1600 4 years ago cost me £170 for a new main board a year ago and they fixed it in my house

This is a 2015 model. The 2016 models are the B6, C6, E6, and G6.

Is this a true 10-bit HDR panel? It seems as if this is a 2015 model... HDR has only really taken off this year.
Also, can anyone elaborate on the quality of the upscaling of standard definition and HD content?
I couldn't find anything about the sky compression rate mentioned by one of the previous comments.

Another thing to bear in mind is, the price of this was around £1999 before Currys hiked it to £2999 under the advice of LG (when they realised that nobody else was producing OLEDs in 2016).

Richersounds had these on clearance due to the amount of returns, so might just steer clear as these were the first generation.

That warning seems pretty anecdotal, haven't heard of any wide scale problems like this. If you want an anecdote, my Samsung UE55ES8000 developed a 1 inch bar of dim or half dead pixels on the left hand side recently. Pretty annoying.

The 2016 sets are a big step forward (better "above blacks", no banding on 55", Dolby Vision). Having deliberated about it myself, I've paid the extra to get the E6. I'd suggest people wanting to get into OLED but not spend over £2k wait until the B6 price drops (£3k at launch in a month or so). I'd imagine it'd be about that by the end of the year.

don't forget quidco 1.5% - £30
and £10 a goal cashback for your team in the euros... so choose England. ..so maybe £20 total !!!
makes it £1949 :smirk:

Good price price.. Amazing tech!!

If you are considering getting a Samsung LCD (remember all Samsungs are, even when they call them LED) with all their made up words like micro cyst, mycro that and stuff it's still just a plain old LCD. Even the whole HDR thing is made in to a bigger issue by the old LCD makers as they couldn't compete with OLED.

Sadly, you can't even get replacement parts from LG any more so it's not fixable.

I've got the LG47LE8900 and after a whole range of LG LED TVs going bust after ~5 years due to cheap mainboard manufacturing, I'm never buying LG again. Reflowing the mainboard in the oven seems to only last a few months.

Had this TV since October 2015, it's awesome and flat. Had it calibrated and well worth it (done by a THX certified engineer). HD through Virgin Media looks better than ever, SD is an improvement, 4K looks amazing, 4K HDR is even better and gaming is brilliant (no lag here). Read all the reviews beforehand and of other tv's and issues with all of them as no TV is perfect. This is the best TV I've ever owned and only paid £2100 for it with a 5 year guarantee and yes, that was new!!!! The 2016 equivalent will be better obviously, is exclusive to John Lewis (according to their website) and is £3500.

Finally it's coming down in price, is this the same as the EG960 but flat screen? Done a lot of research on these and they are meant to be fantastic. Might have to bite.

no standard definition looks great as well due to the deep blacks. allows me to see scenes in much more clarity. don't miss out and go for it!

​you can use the top 2 it will hold it on any adjustable bracket.

kin ell !!

​my bad... sorry :disappointed:

AVForums thread:

https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-ef950v-owners-and-discussion-thread-part-2.1999539/

If Euro 2016 was going to be broadcast UHD/4k in the UK, then I would buy one tomorrow.
Think only Italian & Swiss TV have arranged 4k broadcast for the opening game & from the 1/4 finals on.

As it is, I'll stay cash rich until there is an event worth upgrading for. Roll on 2018 World Cup - as the Olympics has been confirmed it will not be (unless your Japanese - then you get it SHUD/8k)

If only I had the money, the demo unit at my local PC World looks so good

The temptation is making me perspire.

Remember Sky HD will look absolutely appalling on this TV! This is due to sky's compression bitrate. Google it and see for yourself, you are better sticking with OLED1080p save the £1,000 and buy a new one in a few years when there is 4K content!

Does it have vesa mount as i need it for my tv stand.

no HDR though :disappointed:

May as well go for the E6/G6 now.

Great TV and great deal!

Yeah, it has HDR. Great TV, great price.