GTX970 in less than £600 build ?
Ain't going to happen

£600 minus processor=
£460 minus mobo=
£420 minus RAM=
£365 minus case (smart looking to be honest)=
£330 minus PSU=
£280 minus keyboard + mouse=
£250 minus LEGAL windows 10=
£190 minus 120GB SSD
£165 minus 2TB HDD

£110 left for Graphic Card
Few quid could be saved here and there so this gives £110-£150 for GPU

No way to find GTX970 in this price range.

It's windows 8.1 but of course you can upgrade to windows 7

That's what I like to see. A proper backed-up case point made.

960 is plenty good enough. Will give better than ps4 performance in anything (unless terribly optimised) can't say a 960 won't cut it when the best selling gaming machine in the world performs worse

Looks good for the money to me?

Looks ok, although not sure why they chose to include a b85 chipset motherboard. This is a chipset usually used in business machines and lacks some of the features found in consumer mobos. The B85 chipset is the "budget" business option and as such is very limited compared to the other business chipsets.

It's windows 8.1 but of course you can upgrade to windows 7

For example: No Smart Response Technology (ssd caching for faster boot times), no ability to raid, no sli as one of the x16 pci lanes is electrically limited to x4 speed, less sata 6 gb ports etc. Not necessarily a deal killer, but clearly an area where lenovo have cheaped out. Why put a low end business mobo in a "gaming pc"? Otherwise the specs look pretty decent, although I would be interested to know what psu has been used and likewise which version 960

The 960 kills it for me. Lower end gaming.

Decent price but the 960 should put most people off. You need a 970 or amd equivalent for effective HD gaming. The 960 won't cut it, but expect to pay a lot more than £600 if that is all you can afford then my advice is to wait a bit longer and save up to get a better PC. Also,you don't need an Intel chip for effective gaming. Therefore save money by using an amd and that will allow for a better gpu

The upgrade to Windows 10 is also free (at the moment),which is another positive point.
Heat added.

Here we go *eyeroll*

I was looking at this http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/yoyotech-warbird-rs10-gaming-pc-i5-6600k-quad-core-nvidia-gtx960 in terms of "bang-per-buck" which would be better and have more upgrade potential ?
Thanks.

960 is plenty good enough. Will give better than ps4 performance in anything (unless terribly optimised) can't say a 960 won't cut it when the best selling gaming machine in the world performs worse

For the price I'd certainly want a GTX 970.

My PC is slightly better than this plus has a GTX 970 and I paid £660 for it back in 2014.

Video interface
- HDMI x 1
- VGA x 1

This must be an error by PC World or I'm misreading it.
Thought it should come with dual DVI, HDMI and DP

That's what I like to see. A proper backed-up case point made.

The response does have a point but if you're buying a pre-built machine on the low end, you get what you pay for.
Rather spent more money myself but it will fit someones needs.

If it is a B85M-G mobo (which i have) theres only one place to plug a chassis fan into unless you use a splitter or whatever to add more.

No doubt has the cheapest crappest 450w PSU money can almost buy.

Thats called downgrading -_- oh well if you follow that advice have fun getting viruses in the next few years...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£55.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory:Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£44.92 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£33.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.68 @ Aria PC)
Video Card:Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£247.63 @ Amazon UK)
Case:Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£25.97 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply:EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£39.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £644.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-10 23:44 BST+0100

Granted it's a self-build £40 overbudget, ghetto case and no Windows, but it's within the right ballpark using largely the same parts featured in this pre-build (or better).

I was mistaken about what I paid for my PC, it was £760 not £660, I miscalculated adding up the two rounds of parts.

Of course I understand pre-builts have to have a markup, but exceptional value is what a 'hot deal' is all about.

Not quite under £600, and is missing the 2TB hard drive and keyboard and mouse (maybe can use some from an old PC build?), but still has a 970, Windows 10, decent PSU, 8gig ram and 120gig ssd.
http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/custom-built-computers/intel-geforce-gaming-computers/intel-core-i5-4460-120gb-ssd-8gb-1600mhz-gtx-970-4gb-zalman-t4-windows-10-pc.html
£626.
Without Windows 10, it's £552. Free 5-7 days shipping, or £14.95 for Express 3-5 (that seems less than Express to me).

Yes you could probably build one cheaper or better if you are careful about the parts, certainly if you cannibalise another computer (which, let's face it, is why self builds are always cheaper) but for the everyman this aint a bad deal, its rare to see a budget gaming PC with a card that can give decent performance at 1080p. Heat added.

so I'm looking for a gaming pc. don't want to spend too much but want a good rig that will last a few years playing decent games (sims for example :smile:) but every time I look at pcs you always get someone saying they are poor for this or that. obviously if you build the best of the best with no money limit well done you! however an average Joe like myself wouldn't know where to start. so is this a good deal? what could be improved and are there any better prebuilt rigs out there for reasonable cost? (let's use the £600 that this deal is as limit)

failing that someone want to build me a pc? :man:

£600 this is as probably as good as it gets unless you have access to your companies MSDN account and SSD supply :wink:

If you are serious about gaming I'd be inclined to go for dennett316's deal, the GTX 970 is a step up in graphics performance.

If you are not as intent on gaming quality then this Lenovo seems like it'd more appropriate for downloading videos etc. given its 2TB HDD.

hey guys need some good advice.
unfortunately missed this as oos now, so ended up going for the Vortex Marauder. was that a good choice?
Was also tempted by http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Pavilion-550-152na-Desktop-PC-Windows-10-8-GB-RAM-2-TB-HDD-AMD-Radeon-R5-/131671962185?hash=item1ea842b249
I'm looking for a good gaming desktop to run high end spec new games without spending a fortune. would the Marauder be a good point as far as upgrades go?
thanks! :smiley: