It's a business desktop.

It's designed for number crunching. Not playing games. In that context, it's not unbalanced. (Although more RAM would help I guess but GFX are almost totally irrelevant to most business use desktops.)

But you could use some of the components to build a good gaming machine. The CPU + SSD are not worth the price of this so I guess it depends if you have any use for, or what the resale value is, of the remaining components.

Suppose you could try and cram a GFX card in this case, but your options would be limited.

I just spotted this one and thought it looked good.
By "unbalanced" you mean fantastic processor but hardly any ram or storage?

Obviously you'd need to add extra ram and HDD. Anything else you'd need to upgrade?

It's Small Form Factor isn't it. Would that cause problems if you needed to upgrade the graphics and PSU?

I got one of these for my parents and can say:-
1 free DDR4 ram slot (fill it!)
Only space for 1 HDD so any upgrade would be a replace only.
Low profile PCI-e cards only (also limited space so no dual slot gfx cards)

Worth every penny of the asking price if just using for Office apps and Facebook games.

That looks like a great price. I'd just strip it for a gaming pc

I just spotted this one and thought it looked good.
By "unbalanced" you mean fantastic processor but hardly any ram or storage?

Obviously you'd need to add extra ram and HDD. Anything else you'd need to upgrade?

It's Small Form Factor isn't it. Would that cause problems if you needed to upgrade the graphics and PSU?

It's a business desktop.

It's designed for number crunching. Not playing games. In that context, it's not unbalanced. (Although more RAM would help I guess but GFX are almost totally irrelevant to most business use desktops.)

But you could use some of the components to build a good gaming machine. The CPU + SSD are not worth the price of this so I guess it depends if you have any use for, or what the resale value is, of the remaining components.

Suppose you could try and cram a GFX card in this case, but your options would be limited.

It certainly is a business desktop, just about to get 30 for work hence the deal. I upgrade them to 8GB minimum as even the most basic desktop user here more than maxes out 4GB at times once Outlook, browser, excel, work the CRM system etc are loaded so I think it should really be standard on a system with an i7.

I'm looking for a desktop primarily to use for editing.
So processor is most important (and a decent amount of RAM).
But a GPU can help with some tasks.
Any suggestions on a good system round the £300-£400 mark?

Also considering the Dell Vostro i5 deal.

THis is SKYLAKE system??

I got one of these for my parents and can say:-
1 free DDR4 ram slot (fill it!)
Only space for 1 HDD so any upgrade would be a replace only.
Low profile PCI-e cards only (also limited space so no dual slot gfx cards)

Worth every penny of the asking price if just using for Office apps and Facebook games.

If they are really just doing using it for that it is way over specced cpu-wise - a waste of initial outlay and running costs. they could run a power-sipping pc for that.

i got something like this sexond hand. i5 viglen pc. small form. low psu. put in a low profile version of gtx 750ti. was petrified it would blow up but forums convinced me it wouldn't. it is awesome! arkham city plays 1080p at 60fps. this is i7. mega hot if you pay 100 quid for gpu

Last computer I got them is now 8 years old and still running, I expect the same from this one.
Would a "power sipper" last that long and still be a functioning computer that is able to cope with web applications?
Also "up to 180w" and low power modes is not exactly a power hog to be fair.

As this is Hot UK deals please list the alternatives as you see them so other can benefit from your knowledge.

Not without taking it of the case, I assume it would be iTX but can't really tell, PSU is not standard shape as it is long and thin, don't remember what plug it had on the motherboard, sorry.

Been looking for £500 max gaming PC for my lad (nightmare for Mr average,settled on an H81 board, G3258 CPU 120SSD and GTX750 ti, 430w bronze PSU as the basis but this looks a good deal considering the i7 6700 are about £270, if I changed the case and a few bits sounds to be a bit more future proofed than my original idea? What do the in the know think?
what case and lower cost graphics card would get me going?

To all who want to modify this beyond recognition - use the HP maintenance guide as a reference:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04924099

The Motherboard mounting holes are non standard.
The power supply mounting holes will likely be different

You mean 'BESPOKE' :wink:

Well if you are good with a Dremel this will be a great project :laughing:

Great spec for an office pc. SFF ideal too. Ordered. Actually betters Dell business outlet deals.

If you are going to spend a load modding this then why not just look at the Dell XPS systems on the outlet site. I got an i7 (with a benchmark just shy of 10k) 32gb ram 256gb ssd 3tb hdd and Radeon R9 270 for a little over £700.

If you are happy with this PC with it's current spec or a minor ram upgrade then this is a good deal.

+ delivery...
It seems over powered for an office PC! There's a limit as to how much difference you will see when writing an email or creating a presentation! Overpowered for general office apps, needs a GPU upgrade to run CAD at full tilt... Weird...
Almost tempted to buy it and strip out the CPU & SSD...

I'd say you're using the wrong ERP system if it uses client side processing!

Just ordered one of these for a spare xhamster system... Thanks OP!

Showing as £533.99 for me - expired?

£100,000's and years of development opposed to a handful of £300 i7 based computers? All I'm saying is reporting & calculated fields work better on an i7 as opposed to something good enough for Office and web-based applications :smiley:

I can tell this isn't the best start for a machine to add a graphics card to but...

I have a need for a machine with half decent graphics but I'm not really a gamer.

What would be the best graphics card I could add to this system?

Years of development - as in developed before the i7 was available... Client side processing suggests you backed the wrong developer... I get it, i7 is good to have, but boy thats still a lot of processor for normal office apps!

Don't buy this for gaming, just build one from scratch.

now £533.99 :disappointed:

http://m.ebuyer.com/739526 is only £310 same spec!

​if you are looking to buy for business http://m.ebuyer.com/739526 is a better deal!

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£533.99 now

Not when this was £379 it wasnt :smile: that one is only an i3

Must have been asleep still :disappointed: