I have the 2013 model and it's great. Fuel economy in real life is 55mpg round town and 72mpg combination of motorway at 'about' 70mph combined with 50% fast A roads. It is surprisingly nippy for a 1.6D, large boot, 'magic rear seats' are handy (rear seat base fold up to give almost flat floor with full height and rear doors open 90degrees). Drove Civic and Golf, Golf was bland inside, felt much slower (too much turbo lag), and everyone has a golf or A3. That combined with vw/audi/seat dpf and flywheel issues Civic was easy choice. Had it 3 months now and it's great.

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i have a honda civic 2003. a third of my age lol. but its engine is good. never fails. the only repair i needed in the past two years was changing the ABS.

i suspect my car will outlive me... :disappointed: haha

The bag a banger comments on leases always make me laugh , clearly if people wanted a banger they would not be looking at a 2k a year lease deal thread . I personally have been lucky with "quality" used cars in the past . I bought one car really cheap and overall in the 3 and a half years I had it for it cost me £1900 including the purchase price but then at the end I was driving a 12 year old car that was starting to look and feel its age not a brand new car .You can get lucky buying used especially if you know what to look for and can do some of the more minor work yourself , but some people do not wanna play luck,do not know what to look for or do not have the time/tools/skills to fix up their own car they want a reliable measure of how much a car is going to cost them before hand and leasing provides this . Not to mention some people are just plate snobs and so what if they are its their money . I am looking at leasing when the quality used car I have now finally conks out . I have a young family now and work full time , I would rather not be saying to my kids "no daddy cannot take you to the park this weekend he has to rebuild the gearbox on his car "

Kinda . The idea for the leasing company is to charge you only the depreciation that the car will experience during the time you lease it + A little bit extra on top as their profit .

If you went out and bought this car cash and kept it for 2 years putting the same mileage on it as the lease terms if the leasing company are doing their job properly you should be able to sell the car and have the overall cost of owning the car come to less than the lease .

But there are a few problems/risks that you then open yourself upto
1)You need the capital up front to buy the car outright , not everyone has this much cash lying about , you could of course get a bank loan or something but then you are adding to the cost of depreciation by the amount that the interest on the bank loan is coming too .

2)You now own the car , so selling it is your responsibility , obviously the leasing company or car dealer who you are leasing the car from already have clear established resale relationships set up . You could end up lumped with the car for months longer than you wanted whilst trying to get a decent price for the car through a private sale

3)Even if you have the cash there is no guarantee that you will be able to negotiate the same discount as the leasing companies who are buying the cars in volume or negotiating special deals with the dealers that supply the cars because of the volume of custom they bring .You might find it harder to negotiate the car for the same price a leasing broker or company can .

4)You are now gambling against the depreciation of the car with your own money . If something unforeseen happens like another emissions scandal with the make and model of car you have chosen then you could end up severely out of pocket . I wonder how many people who currently have cars implicated in the VW emissions scandal on leases that are due to expire are glad that they leased rather than bought . Anything could happen to the resale value of the car overnight and you would loose out as a result .

For what little you might save by buying a family car outright rather than leasing the risks to me seem too high . I can see why people invest their capital in expensive supercars because in many cases as the cars are rarer and only available from a small number of dealers and sometimes only in limited numbers a supercar would hold its value pretty well , maybe even sometimes gaining value .

thanks for posting might be able to find cheaper deal from a main dealer that does not add administration fee have some heat

You had a great deal man, was in Honda dealer today and paid about 14000 for a 15 plate used civic sport, just realized that sat nav is not included and thinking to call back to the dealer and cancel it but paid 10% deposit, dunno they will refuse or not.

That's extremely unlikely in my opinion as leasing companies make their money by getting big discounts from the car manufacturers for ordering in bulk. Leasing is almost always far less than the depreciation from the cash price.

​It is absolutely mental!! yes both me and partner have cars from ling! To be fair there is a secure part of the website you deal with when ordering a car with secure chat and document uploads and things and that's more normal looking! ! If you search youtube you can see her dragons dens appearance - it's rather unique! When my lease is up I'll look around and go with them again if cheapest but not sure if will be as there's been some brilliant deals on here recently :smile:

I can't believe some of the comments on here, made me laugh :smiley:

Is this site legit?!?! it's brilliant!

That'll be why when they did bring out diesel units, they were class leading. Yeah, makes sense.

again loads of nonsense.
provide a link for your claim otherwise its just your own false opinion.
Japan's technology is far more advance than you can possibly understand.
in US diesel is not popular because cost of petrol is cheap,sane apllies to Japan and developped countries of Asia,diesel cars were/are simply not popular.
and that's that.

What about an auto box? While earlier ones used Rover engines with an auto option. When it introduced it's own engine it was 4 years later (2008) when it introduced an auto box. This is a far shorter span of time than other have managed.
From a passenger car point of view the French set the way, with Fiat introducing common rail to the public.

What speed limits have to do with anything? Anybody can produce a car for the autobahn. You can drive on much more fun roads on the isle of man as fast as you dare. :smiley:

LMC Automotive expects diesel sales in the U.S. to more than triple to 1.3 million in 2018 from 408,344 last year as stricter federal fuel efficiency standards are phased in starting in 2017. The diesel Mazda6 will be introduced in the U.S. next year, making Mazda the first Asian carmaker to sell a passenger car using the engines in the American market, where European makers such as Volkswagen currently set the pace for the technology.

Hmm... Reported.
Insults just for having a different opinion...
You do realise diesel is the only choice possible for any commercial vehicle, be it a truck, boat or tank?
Japanese just didn't have the tech for it. Plain and simple. But even if I was wrong, insulting others only tell something about you.

you sir are a clown.with comment like that..
Japanese don't care about diesel because diesel is a european and specially UK thing.no one in Japan and most of the world wants a diesel car thats why they didnt make them,not because they couldnt .they have the best and most advanced engineering and technology not just fot cars but in pretty much for everything,now how can a hillbilly come to hotukdeals website and claim such garbage..:smile:

What about the auto gear box? It's kind of easy to forget the diesel and otto engines are german inventions and germany still remains the only country in the world with no speed limits, cars have to be a bit better than average for objective reasons.
But to through french and german in the same mix...

Too complicated! :confused:
The reason why Honda didn't introduce one until 2004 (12 years ago) was they had no market to need to. In its home market it still sells very few as does it in the US.

When people mention diesel it's always French and German, but many forget Fiat Groups contribution.

lol you call Honda awful? one of the most reliable cars with fantastic engines..you clearly have no idea what you talking about.

same applies to volkswagen,audi and all cars in general.

It's a bit over 4k for 20000 miles mate.
But you don't own the hotel when you go on a holiday, do you? Or the taxi or the bus ?

Let's not compare french and german cars.

Also, you can only compare them if you oen them, which I take it you don't, you only own japanese (which one, hope is not nissan...) so you might be a bit partial.

Also, let's keep it into perspective, just a few years back you could not buy a diesel japanese car, as it was too complicated for them to manufacter. When they started manufacturing one, they could not offer an automatic gearbox for the diesel as it was yet again a bit too complicated for them.

I agree japanese make good quality items in general, but saying german and french are nothing compared, oh wrll, just not true and very misleading

Oh come on, we all know you're still on L plates brah

And a panoramic roof and keyless start which I would of liked but can live without.

I've got the sport version of these and they are really good cars to live with. also sport looks great. but they were doing a deal on the sport and probably other models where the dealers give you a massive contribution and free servicing think it worked out about £17500 for car and 5 services. be unlucky to lose 4k in 2 years at that rate but depends what you want. still a great car

I have a 2012 6 plate. 2.2 dtec. Great car!!

It has to be said a Focus ST is embarrassing! Wouldn't be seen dead in one, besides this is a lease deal not about buying a chav chariot....

sorry about the duplicate posts having trouble with my phone!

sorry about the duplicate posts having problems with my phone!. Anyway voted this deal hot if you don't do may miles

I'm 18 months into a 2 year deal from lings cars and pay 220 a month. I paid 660 ( 3 payments ) plus 180 for the initial deposit. I have a milage limit of 15000 and the mileage excess is only 6 pence per mile. The cars brilliant and the 1.6 diesel is super super economical. The only thing is that the car seems very low down and I struggle to get in and out but I guess that's true with alot of modern hatchbacks. The current deal from ling is 600 down and 23 months of 200 but only 10000 mileage limit. Not sure if the admin fee is still 180 it may be more now and the excess mileage charge may be different! http://m.lingscars.com/car?car=2166744

I'm 18 months into a 2 year deal from lings cars. I pay 220 a month and paid 660 (3 payments) plus 180 for the initial deposit. I have a 15000 mile limit and above that it's only 6 pence per mile. Cars nice to drive and the 1.6 diesel is super super economical. Only problem I have is that the car seems pretty low to the ground and struggle getting in and out. This is true with alot of modern hatchbacks though. Lings current deal not quite as good. It's 600 down and admin fee still 180 I pesume then 200 a month for 23 months. 10 000 mileage limit. Not sure what the excess per mile would be.

This is the SE Plus with Sat Nav. It has more kit than the ES and only lacks the heated leather of the EX.

I don't like leather, so this model is great for me!

One of the last company which build reliable cars and not too expensive for repair. Surprisingly companies with poor or middle quality during last decades like Opel Fiat Kia Hyunday Renault produce best engines (reliable) and cost effective cars. Mercedes BMW Audi etc are far far to expensive with maintance. Lots of electricity systems do not give you a choice and you have to repair them through official dealers garage

I prefer the 8th Gen Civic's more sporty shape (type r especially). Although the real gem is the Type S 2.2 Diesel when remapped. It is quite torquey (300Ib/ft 200Bhp :smiley: (but watch the clutch slip!!)...

The SE model of the civic is like driving a car from 5 years ago :P You need and ES, EX or sport to really get the most out of the new models. The SE is very boring with no features.

It was probably just telling me I was low on fuel.

Not everyone has the credit score to get a decent personal loan , and even if you put down a £5000 deposit on your 12.5k car you are going to be loaning 7.5k which at 3.4% is just over £135 a month . I dont know if I could sit looking at a 5 year old civic knowing I am paying 135 a month , i know i know you still have the value of the car at the end of the personal loan but nothing is guaranteed in this life .

There is no comparison . Your way is perfectly fine if you are happy driving a 5 year old car half way through your personal loan . And you are happy taking a chance that the car will have any value in 5 years time . Which it likely will . But some people dont want to be driving a 5-6 or 7 year old car for various reasons

You can alter the initial payment to 3, 6 or 9 months which then alters the monthly payments.

is it typical for lease deals to have so high initial payment?
I'd prefer higher monthly rates than paying £2040 upfront...

Found this deal after following another HUKD link to the site.
Went for the 6 months/10k deal over 2 years. Delivery end of June.

Thanks for all the constructive opinion on this thread.

Because you simply get to drive something thats with the times, same reason it's nice having a new phone every 2 years. once you drive one youl understand.

Dear butthurt German garbage can driver, how does owning a particular car invalidate your opinion on the styling of other cars?

it seems that most people that buy used cars here buy 10 year old cars. And others that lease "have to have a new car every 2 years". I bought my civic 2.5 years old for £12.5k. It costs just under £20k new. I got a personal loan and put a deposit. I will drive it at least 5 years as that is how long the loan is.

And yes I'll pay servicing fees. £120 every 12.5K miles locally

We have done the same with the last car which we still have as the wife now drives it - get a decent reliable car from a trust worthy source and make sure it's checked. How hard can it be.

S3s are pretty bland. Audi engineers and test drivers probably made an S3 that handled fun. Then the lawyers in grey suits and frameless glasses who advise the board stepped in and said we can't have that, far too exciting for a hatchback lots of people can buy, make it safe, boring and understeery. So that's what they did.

Most Audis are pretty bland. The R8 is good and I have driven one, but it's heart is from a Lamborghini. Still feels a bit sterile though for me.

yep .got a type r and had a type s before that. only things to replace on both has been tyres n brakes. type r only does 23mpg (i do cane it a bit). brilliant motors. have 2 mates with audi diesels which were economical until the turbo's went on both of them

The bag a banger comments on leases always make me laugh , clearly if people wanted a banger they would not be looking at a 2k a year lease deal thread . I personally have been lucky with "quality" used cars in the past . I bought one car really cheap and overall in the 3 and a half years I had it for it cost me £1900 including the purchase price but then at the end I was driving a 12 year old car that was starting to look and feel its age not a brand new car .You can get lucky buying used especially if you know what to look for and can do some of the more minor work yourself , but some people do not wanna play luck,do not know what to look for or do not have the time/tools/skills to fix up their own car they want a reliable measure of how much a car is going to cost them before hand and leasing provides this . Not to mention some people are just plate snobs and so what if they are its their money . I am looking at leasing when the quality used car I have now finally conks out . I have a young family now and work full time , I would rather not be saying to my kids "no daddy cannot take you to the park this weekend he has to rebuild the gearbox on his car "

Kinda . The idea for the leasing company is to charge you only the depreciation that the car will experience during the time you lease it + A little bit extra on top as their profit .

If you went out and bought this car cash and kept it for 2 years putting the same mileage on it as the lease terms if the leasing company are doing their job properly you should be able to sell the car and have the overall cost of owning the car come to less than the lease .

But there are a few problems/risks that you then open yourself upto
1)You need the capital up front to buy the car outright , not everyone has this much cash lying about , you could of course get a bank loan or something but then you are adding to the cost of depreciation by the amount that the interest on the bank loan is coming too .

2)You now own the car , so selling it is your responsibility , obviously the leasing company or car dealer who you are leasing the car from already have clear established resale relationships set up . You could end up lumped with the car for months longer than you wanted whilst trying to get a decent price for the car through a private sale

3)Even if you have the cash there is no guarantee that you will be able to negotiate the same discount as the leasing companies who are buying the cars in volume or negotiating special deals with the dealers that supply the cars because of the volume of custom they bring .You might find it harder to negotiate the car for the same price a leasing broker or company can .

4)You are now gambling against the depreciation of the car with your own money . If something unforeseen happens like another emissions scandal with the make and model of car you have chosen then you could end up severely out of pocket . I wonder how many people who currently have cars implicated in the VW emissions scandal on leases that are due to expire are glad that they leased rather than bought . Anything could happen to the resale value of the car overnight and you would loose out as a result .

For what little you might save by buying a family car outright rather than leasing the risks to me seem too high . I can see why people invest their capital in expensive supercars because in many cases as the cars are rarer and only available from a small number of dealers and sometimes only in limited numbers a supercar would hold its value pretty well , maybe even sometimes gaining value .

Honda Civic far less bland than a Golf - have owned several of both and VW far more uninspiring.

haha. What's the error on the dash? I remember I had TPM annoy me with this

That's impressive bobbajob, can't get that in mine, maybe my heavier right foot.

I got 58 in the winter hammering it, still impressive.

Great car when you are getting 45p a mile from work.

That's all you need to know

Not quite neutral.

I do 30 miles each way to work on motorways and A roads and easily get 75 mpg.

A roads at a gentle 60 easily 90+

Audi A3 interior, this the old one 2014-16, which has just been updated to include the new virtual cockpit.


New virtual cockpit/dashboard instrument panel


Honda interior mess

Downhill in neutral for just over 3 miles. Best I've seen is 87mpg over 20 miles, but that needs a quiet road!

I did cheat a bit. It was a gentle cruise down a mountain in Wales.

This is a genuine 50/60 mph cruise along A roads.



And the average of a full tank

that's pretty impressive! what conditions and how did you do that? :smiley:

Don't think their reliability has decreased any over the years, so not sure where you got that from.

Audi's certainly aren't bland, my S3 isn't.

This comment coming from a someone who has a Honda Civic which has to rate as one of the most boring and awful cars ever made. I would rather cycle.

I think the idea is that buying a brand new car and selling it after a couple of years would cost you more in the amount of value the car would lose over that time compared to just leasing a car.

If you pay £20k for a car which is worth £16k after 2 years you've lost £4k when it comes to selling it whereas the same car could be had for £3k lease over 2 years which works out better.

The downside to leasing is always the limit on how many miles you can drive before they charge you for each extra mile. A car you own you can drive as much as you want.

I was hoping the usual used vs new car debate would be avoided, but I guess that was expecting too much!

Just like tv's or freezers, some people are happy to spend less money and buy used. Some people would rather spend more and get new. We all have our reasons.

In the case of a car, I have a young family that I drive about and would like to minimize the risk of being left stranded at the side of a motorway and, should the worst happen and we are involved in an accident, know that I'm in a car that is more likely to protect us compared to a 10 or 15 year old car.

That and I don't like the idea that some other geezer has trumped a thousand times in the drivers seat and flicked his bogeys everywhere!!!

I have a 2013 one of these. Driving 35 miles a day 85% of it motorway. Cruise control at 69mph = up to 80 mpg on a sunny day and average 73 with rain. My record was 90 and that was cruise control 32 mph trip to the airport on local roads, no motorway.

Was going to get a golf but this feels faster [there is 118bhp on 1.6 Civic vs 105bhp on 1.6 golf + more torque on the civic].

The boot is quite large due to no spare you have the false floor with a lot of space. But beware of the lack of spare if it concerns you.

Great car overall - would recommend it. Good price as well so heat added

Seems an awful lot of money for a car you can barely use (due to mileage limit) and you have to give back.
For the mileage allowance why would you even be considering a diesel?

I have a 64 reg one of these and paying a lot more than this. Engine is brilliant, very rarely experience any turbo lag, pulls out quickly, cheap to run. lovely mechanical gear change, brilliant dash (anything else feels old fashioned now). But. The suspension is atrocious. Far too firm but not in a nice sporty way, some roads make it feel like a fairground ride and it doesn't like holding on in corners. Handling is nowhere near as good as a basic focus from two generations ago. Overall though if 'handling' doesn't matter to you then it's cheap to run and feels well built.

Expensive for 5,000 miles around 42p a mile...

Voted hot, thank you for subsidising the cost of my next car leasing people!

I have a 2006 civic. All the parts are still original expect the tyres and discs.

Love my Tourer version!! SE has the 99grams co2/km. I think the plus is higher.

Beautiful car except the infotainment software and user interface is rubbish!

Not German - cold..oh wait..

I will second that. Those are designed for old people... Older than me and I am nearly 40.

had a 64 plate 1.6 se for work for a year, solid car, drove ok, very economical. great chasis. 25k miles and I still enjoyed driving it, I just couldn't fit the teenagers in the back with a child seat so had to swap for something bigger

But you get 2 years of driving a brand new car.

That is what you pay for. It is usually cheaper than buying a brand new car, using it for 2 years and then selling it.

If you are happy with an older car without the latest features, economy, styling, safety etc. (which most people probably are) then this is not for you.

Shame about the 5000miles per annum

I have the 2013 model and it's great. Fuel economy in real life is 55mpg round town and 72mpg combination of motorway at 'about' 70mph combined with 50% fast A roads. It is surprisingly nippy for a 1.6D, large boot, 'magic rear seats' are handy (rear seat base fold up to give almost flat floor with full height and rear doors open 90degrees). Drove Civic and Golf, Golf was bland inside, felt much slower (too much turbo lag), and everyone has a golf or A3. That combined with vw/audi/seat dpf and flywheel issues Civic was easy choice. Had it 3 months now and it's great.

paying over £4k plus insurance for 10000 miles sounds more expensive than a taxi lol

I just don't understand it! Hence why I asked...

Had my civic coupe 2001 for 6 years now and was looking for a trade in. Said 2 years ago I'd run it in to the ground but never had any problems. Paid 2.5k back then... No issues or problems. Don't get the idea of leasing... Anyone care to explain?

But you pay 4K and get nothing for it?

Big boot but where's the spare wheel?

Hmm all japanese make cars are durable. Own one and compare it with germany or french cars.

Most modern affordable family cars are bland. I like a car I can get into that you know has that little bit extra under the throttle. Might never use/need/be able to use it, just nice knowing its there. I'm afraid that a diesel Civic no matter the affordability/practicality will not do it.

Heat added as for those that want it, it's a good deal.

They can't offload these diesels fast enough - in 5 years time I doubt a private individual will even have the option to buy one.

After all the issues with 8th gen clutches I couldn't bring myself to trust another diesel civic

:smiley: I have had a mk1 Golf GTi, Mk 2 Golf GTi 16v (Turbo Technics), and a mk1 Golf Convertible. They were great cars but that was the VW of old. Just have a look at the dash of most VW or Audi, yes they are functional and clear but just a bit bland :smiley:

I think one showing the side of all the cars would prove your point even better. they all look like a box

That was from Hondas "golden era". Good cars, well priced. Today, perhaps not so much.

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i have a honda civic 2003. a third of my age lol. but its engine is good. never fails. the only repair i needed in the past two years was changing the ABS.

i suspect my car will outlive me... :disappointed: haha

Agree about the golf, A3, etc. I'm sure they're great cars but I just find them a bit boring. Having said that, the Golf R deal last week was fantastic, but insurance, fuel economy (10k miles a year for me) and lack of built in sat nav put me off. Plus my boy racer days are long gone!

Up to date picture. :smiley:

Nice little runabout.