It has adjustable rebound on both front and rear. brakes are good for price and finishing kit is reasonable too. 26" wheels are fine - the shift is marketing hype that you seem to lap up. This is very good for the price.

Anyone know if you can lock the rear suspension off on this?

I looked at this bike last month and was about to pay £700 for it. Glad I didnt now and may buy it now.

This bike should be cheap and nasty, a full-sus for under £500! But the reviews it gets are always good, no just the odd review but all reviews consistently say the same thing so hot from me :sunglasses:

btwin bikes bang for buck you cannot go wrong. life time warranty on the frame 2 year on other none wearable parts what ever they may be. personally found decathlon customers service to be very good as well and no issues sorting replacements etc.
Defo gonna nip and see if I can pick one up tomorrow. :smile:

Probably great, especially for the money, but seems only M size, and also none in London (from Stock check).
Maybe orderable 'online' but I did not check as not really in the market at the moment.

Outrageous. The brakes are pretty awful and the finishing kit is cheap, and that fork doesn't have any adjustable damping, and it's using the 26" wheel standard which is all but dead and buried, but a full sus that isn't complete garbage for £500, who knew it.

All the components seems good quality, pretty average parts for xc / freeride.
13.7kg weight is fairly light which is good.
Lock-out rear suspension which is good for climbing.
Hydraulic Avid brakes for sharp quick response braking.
Good quality Mavic wheels.
Plenty of BTWIN components like hubs, saddle, handlebars, which should be good as they're part of the Decathlon Group.

Heat from me.

Sorry - did I offend your delicate sensibilities somehow? I wasn't saying '26 is sh*t, 650b 4lyfe yo' I was saying it's a cheap full sus largely because it's on 26" wheels. Whatever your opinion of them there's no questioning the fact that they have gone the way of the dodo, people have voted with their wallets. Which is good for now, look at that price - but what about in three years when you kill a rim on this thing and you literally can't find a replacement because no-one besides the artisinal wheel builders makes them any more?

I was wrong about the damping, and though that cartridge is about as sophisticated as leaf springs it does get the job done.

As for the brakes, we'll agree to disagree there as I've got three sets of Avids sitting around waiting for their inevitable death. Anything budget with 'Avid' on it should be in the bin already, they simply don't work.

In case it wasn't clear in my first post, I do think this is a great price - spend £500 on the bike and £60 replacing those brakes and you'll have a respectable bike with an outdated drivetrain and wheelset. All that said, anyone who's considering buying it is going to get a lot more out of and learn a lot more from a midrange used hardtail...

All hail the mighty gbmcginty - don't buy without his expert opinion 'cos he's cool too! :wink:

God forbid these threads were populated with anyone who knew what they were talking about... that would go against HUKD tradition! :wink:

Out of interest, what bike do you own?

Nukeproof Mega TR, Trek Cobia and an Orange RX-9, at the moment.

Ah, yes the literal hundreds of thousands of bikes in the world with 26" wheels are going to all vanish in 3 years, and not one manufacturer will be filing that huge cash cow gap. :neutral_face:

better throw my cube ltd in the bin just noticed it hasn't got the latest size wheels .damn you mcginty

​you got flames down the side of the frame ?

Only when I break the sound barrier. I answered the question, what do you want from me...

Someone needs to setup a 26" rim manufacturer then, you'd quite literally make £100k's if what you are predicting becomes true. Although I find it highly unlikely, to almost implausible.

26“ is dead? Best get rid of my 4 bikes then.

Here's why I think that wouldn't work.

The only way parts sales work for a 'cottage' industry like mountain biking is through high prices or high volume. You either sell thousands of them or you sell a few at ridiculous prices, high enough to justify all your unique costs in tooling for this 'old wheel standard'.

The demand isn't there for an obsolete wheelset to be produced in large volumes because people have either moved onto the new wheel size, or they've got an exotic 26" wheeled bike which justifies spending a lot on a custom wheelset. But who's going to spend custom wheelset money upgrading a £500 bike? No-one, they'll buy the new bike which not only has the latest wheel size but extra gears, newer brakes, and up-to-date geometry. And that's exactly what the bike industry works so hard to perfect, a culture of replace instead of repair.

I'm not saying 26" wheels are inherently bad, which is what everyone seems to be missing - they were fine for 20 years, after all - they're just being sidelined by industry progression.

26"?
*Sniggers*

Mavic turned over 129m euros 2014/2015, 79% of that was rims and tires, that's one year only. Hardly a cottage industry, since a huge proportion of that will be MTB rims.

Ha... Just like 7, 8 and 9 speed drivetrain components are hard to source at reasonable price?!? Ummm. Fool

Back to the bike at the top of the thread - A very good option for those wanting to spend only £500 on a full suss. An exceptional deal in my opinion. Heat

At either the ultra-budget, POS end of the market - people keeping their beaters going - or the ultra-expensive, custom DH racer end of the market. If I want a reasonably priced 7 or 8 speed derailleur that's rated for offroading I'd be clean out of luck. I could count the number of 26" wheeled bikes on sale today as a current model on one hand, anyone who says it's current is deluding themselves, speculate all you want about the future of parts supply for them.

The way you lot go on you'd think a production standard had never fallen by the way before, and changing perfectly good standards is like the bike industry's favourite thing.

You could use a 9 speed deore which would suffice - or any other Shimano if your running their levers. Cassettes and chains are cheap as chips. This is a very good deal and I challenge you to post a better deal. I'll give you a budget of upto £750 and you can prove your worth to the HUK community. I think you'll struggle even with £750 at your disposal.

​So you didn't even read most of what I said. Yes it's a great deal and I said that several times, I was simply pointing out that it's a 26" wheeled bike (with bad brakes). Do you think their 650b bikes are on this deep a sale price? Of course not. It's cheap because it's using old wheels, and that's perfectly OK. It just means that replacing those parts cost effectively might be an issue in the future. The fact that you're referring to the hacky methods used to keep 7 speed bikes going these days should tell you everything.

The biggest issue with this post is that it's available in one size only, in only a few shops. It's stock clearance. But I don't think anyone is questioning the value for money. certainly not me.

Why hacky methods? I think you need to ride more and read less magazines that trying to sell you new product. I also think you know far less than you think you do.

​You know nothing about me or my riding, so do you want to stop making this personal? Forgive me for pointing something out.

I don't give a damn about old drivetrain hackery, you were the one who brought that pointless stuff up - the drivetrain is one of the better things about the bike.

That Nukeproof is one sexy bike to be fair! - if you're so into mtb what would you suggest I buy for a full-sus that is still decent uphill, £2.5k budget, need to buy a new bike for the summer

Cheers

I have avid DB3 on my btwin and find them to be very good.

I also can't see 26 rims ever not being sold in the next couple of decades; I'd guess that the number of MTBs out there with 26" wheels compared to 27.5 / 29" rims are maybe currently about 100:1. Development of new 26" will cease but sales will continue.

This bike is aimed at hobby riders (idiots like me after a lot of bike for their money) not comp / pro riders.

Raleigh Chopper - maybe :smiley:.

​YT Capra is the bike park darling at the moment, it is shocking value for money. I was at BPW a few weeks ago and there must have been 25 of them there that day.

Nice spec/price. Problem is for the majority of people looking to spend the sort of money would be better off with a hardtail and therefore lighter/more efficient. Anyone looking for a serious full suss what likely want a superior spec.

Still it's a good deal... And 26 wheels still have a life span, and some bargains to be had for replacements right now. The wheels will be lighter, stronger and cheaper, but may be not as fast as 650/29ers.

Too much technicalities going on here. I have a simple question pls for anyone that could jargon bust the comments above. Is this a good bike to get as a present for someone who uses it to commute to work? Or am I looking for something else entirely? Budget seems around this price

I agree entirely. If I was to buy a bike for a work commute with a budget of £500 I'd start by looking at:

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bikes/boardman-hybrid-comp-bike



If

​Thanks. Bookmarked for future reference

This is why people who don't ride bikes, don't like people who do ride bikes :disappointed:
it's a bargain, move on.

Shocking in a good way then? Would this be your suggestion mate?

Thanks

In a very good way, you really can't beat it for value. Only thing is the wait times and the customer service can be lacking.

Another contender for best in show in this 'endur-bro' sector would be a Canyon Strive, again incredible value for money and the Shapeshifter link is supposed to help enormously with climbing.

Thanks for the tips, I will probably go for the YT