if it had gone up in price and they had phoned you and asked you for more money would you have given it to them?

Just thinking back to the days when people were buying PCs for over £1000 that were just about capable of running Microsoft Office and a browser, now we have yokes like this for £60. What a time to be alive!

I bought a win7 licence from an ebay seller for a tenner and used it to upgrade to 10. Unlike all the shady set ups, these guys mail you the physical sticker and, if you happen to want the scrap pc it came from you can call round (to Manchester) and pick it up! Also, they've been around for 5 years

I personally find a wireless mouse to be the best. You can lay down in bed and use your belly as a mouse mat :laughing:

I tried that before and it wouldn't accept the key, just said it was for a different version. Downloaded W10 vanilla/english today and it now accepts the key :smiley: (my old iso was int english)

Why don't just install Win 10 from scratch and use your Win 8 key has M$ allow you don this now, look trough this thread.

Just came back to this and i've hit a bit of a wall. It wont allow me to install W8 32 bit as it claims missing drivers. W8 64 installs fine BUT doesn't leave enough space to upgrade to W10. Aaaaaaaargghhhhh!!!!!!

anyone successful with windows 7 installation? my windows 7 installations goes smoothly through the process but on first boot within seconds it gets into blue screen indicating some error. Anyone knows how to update the Bios as I couldnt do it. Any quick link for the compatible Bios update? I had similar issue with a Dell laptop but after Bios update I was able to install Windows 7

If you put on windows 10, make sure you use the acer drivers:
http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers

I found performance to be far better with those than the built in windows 10 drivers.
(more so than normal)

Using mine for work with win10 and it has been great. Had resolution issues at first using a vga converter but using HDMI to dvi is so much better.

I think mine has just died!

I get a score of 612 using Gentoo and the display is nice and smooth. I've seen it without hardware acceleration, and it is not pretty. I had to include drivers for both i915 and i965, which seemed a bit weird. See if you can find an Xorg log file and check it for errors.

I'm a bit late posting, so I don't know if anyone's still around to read this, but...

Thanks for the tip on the wifi, worked! That was close to being the final straw that made me send it back. Now I'm back not making my mind up whether to keep it. :smiley:

You're in a similar situation to me, as I've also got Mint 17.3 installed (17.1 wouldn't). It works, but mine just feels far more sluggish than it should, even for a low power processor PC, especially in the graphics area. I've checked the main processors, and the most they're doing is about 30% each or less, most of the time, so the sluggishness isn't them. In 1080p video, it's a little too jerky, in fact more jerky than a USB stick plugged into my TV, which kills the main purpose of having it as a media player.

A good example would be a 1080p copy of Spectre I have, which when I play in VLC (or the other movie player), at the start, when the classic 007 sniper's circle appears, it doesn't move entirely smoothly across the screen, but as a series of small jerks. Other things like slight sheering effects and jumps when the camera moves quickly. It's not bad enough to be unwatchable, but it's a small if irritating distraction. Same problems with 720p files too, Incidentally. It's weird, because I've checked VLC and no frames are being dropped.

Other examples would be how a YouTube video's frame rate completely grinds to a halt if you wiggle the mouse over it.

Also having some stability issues. The screen doing the occasional strange momentary "twitch," and the occasional crash with the screen going light grey. All graphics related stuff, it appears. I'm keen to know if anyone with Linux, particularly Mint 17.3 installed is having the same problems as me, if they're not, I think I need to return it for replacement.

Also other oddities like the fact that it's impossible to get the mouse cursor in the exact top left of the screen.

I'm suspecting Mint isn't using the graphics hardware acceleration, but I'm not sure if it's because Mint has found it's unstable, or just lack of drivers. I'm not sure how to check what's going on, though. KODIUbuntu also refused to run because of a lack of hardware acceleration, and told me to check for drivers.

I'm trying to work out if I've got a duff graphics chip, or it just needs a BIOS update or something, but I haven't got the time to keep messing with it, I'm running out of time to send it back. £60 is great as long as you aren't having to spend hours trying to fix the damn thing.

In text mode/DOS, I've also had a lot of weird stuff go on. Not just the flickering I've seen someone else complain about, but also
"---------------------------------------------------------" lines appear on the screen, sort of floating on top of the FreeDOS output, as if stuck there by the graphics card. Anyone else had that?

I've never seen that on a PC before. Also when trying to run KODIUbunutu, bootup text output becoming unreadable and looking more like hieroglyphics. Weird sh*t.

Still also getting lots of other error messages, such as something about a WMID, also, errors like this when installing the wireless drivers:
"Unable to write sector 0 after 4096 Read/write error"
Which is a bit of a worry, as it seems to indicate possible issues with the eMMC.
Not sure how seriously to take all these, though, and the wifi did end up finally working, in spite of the various error messages.

What do you think guys, problems I can iron out, or have a got a bad one?

REQUEST

Can anyone who's successfully got a flavour of Linux working, run the following graphical performance test, as documented at https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/linux-gpu-benchmark/ :

Open a terminal box, then install with:

sudo apt-get install glmark2

Then execute:

glmark2

I get a score of 378, which looks a bit low compared to the 3000 Nvidia example out on the website.

If others are scoring higher, then I'll know my graphics setup isn't right, and that's what the issue is.


Quick review, hardware annoyances:

Only 3 USB ports, even if they are all USB3. You can get away with 3 on a laptop, where you've already got a keyboard and trackpad built in, but 4's a sensible minimum on a nettop, 6, better. I could live with only two USB3s if I could have 2 or more USB2 ports. As pointed out by others, Win 7 likes USB2, too.

As it is, you're going to pretty much need a multiport adaptor, which is going to be more clutter and fiddling about.

No VGA, could give the Displayport a miss.

No digital out, no mic in - get what you pay for, guess.

Fan - which seems unnecessary with a N3050, guess it must work out cheaper than a bigger heatsink. It it smart, though, so it turns off when not needed - although the constant turning on and off can also prove annoying. It's fairly quiet, though.

As others have said, real shame about the lack of a auto-restart on power cut. Pointless, annoying limitation.

The keyboard's liveable, the mouse is dire.

Pluses - proper SD card slot, non of this mini-SD silliness, as is the trend. Would prefer a USB and the SD on the front, though.

Overall, at £60 I'd say it's a bit of a bargain, if you can iron out the problems, but at the same time, not astounding, either. Think I'd be feeling I hadn't got good value for money if I'd paid over £80, considering the slow processor, output limitations, lack of installed (proper) OS the amount of fiddling you have to do to get things working. Anyone paying £120 wants their head looking at, but I've always thought Nettops were a bit overpriced for what they are, which is basically a Netbook (which you can often get for about the same price) without a screen, camera, battery and often, OS.

Still debating whether to keep. Not happy with the state of it as a media player and stability side of things at present, but a handy, flexible TV based webbrowser and emergency mini PC for £60? That's not bad.

Now this was a bit of surprise..... Having got tired of untangle I decided to wipe it for ubuntu server but before I did that thought I'd try ESXi - lo and behold it worked without any tweaks !

you're right - it said it wasn't activated! though as it's an old NC10 it was running very slow and wouldn't let me click on ACTIVATE NOW and see what happened. I usually run Ubuntu on it as it can cope with Netflix (with a lot of hassle to get the old version of chrome) and youtube full screen no problems but windows struggles with Netflix and eventually settles at a low resolution.

Thats what I did, I just assumed people would update from Acer support page

I managed to get mine working on my TV, just updated the display drivers from the Acer support page (using a different monitor). The Intel update utility didnt want to update them for some reason.

I had some problems with monitors, I initially used an old widescreen Dixon's monitor from 2005/6 I think using a DVI to HDMI lead and it had some problems with drivers but worked.

When I then plugged in a widescreen monitor from 2011 it wouldn't work. I disconnected everything and restarted it a few times and eventually it worked.

My report with regards to my problem.
I opened up the bottom of the unit and disconnected the battery from the main board for a few minutes. Reconnected it and then tried again. There was no difference.
I don't know why I decided to do my next move but I did. I tried a different TV and a different HDMI lead and it worked first time. Very weird. I've now managed to install windows 10 without any issues. :sunglasses:

I did the battery last night, just by disconnecting the lead tfrom the battery to the main board. I didn't need to unwrap the black tape around the battery.

​Go to the settings app, select update & security and then look at activation. You'll see that your PC isn't activated as Windows XP doesn't qualify for the free upgrade.

You need to either upgrade from an activated version of Windows 7/8 or own a valid Windows 7/8/10 key to activate Windows 10 from a fresh install.

​i had an old xp computer that was in a bad state. just installed windows 10 over it. no key needed. forums say you can press skip. they are competing with android now and going for spying and stores and subscriptions and movies and films for revenue

​i think so! i got it from microsoft web site. a tool that installs it onto usb

When I originally received mine it worked fine and I got OpenElec installed in 10 mins. Kodi was streaming full HD without issue. However Ive gone back to it after a couple of days turned off, and it wont boot at all. Tried DEL and F12 and cant get any menu, just what looks like the first line of POST. Ive checked the BIOS battery and its wrapped in black tape - I assume eBuyer are saying that its OK to take all the black tape off in order to remove the battery? Otherwise its going to be another return to eBuyer

Windows 10 will accept Windows 7 and 8 product keys, so you could of bought one of them for a little less instead.

The Windows 10 upgrade is free, but many people don't seem to realise that you can install Windows 10 and use your Windows 7 or 8 key to activate it. You don't need to do an upgrade as long as you've got a valid key.

I originally has overscan issues when used with my TV, but since I've fiddled with the settings - I now get no display.
Perfect on a monitor, but nothing on my TV.
Will try a full HD TV when I get a chance.

Just spoken to the ebuyer returns department and as you all know they have had quite a lot of these sent back due to the bricked units. His advice to me with regards to my issue is to remove the BIOS Battery and leave it out for a few minutes and then replace it. I asked about warranty issues and he said that it will not void my warranty. This is the part that might help a few of you guys, he also explained that removing the BIOS battery from the unit and replacing it has actually cured the Bricked units that they have had returned to them.
Ill try mine when I get home from work and let you know how it goes.

So windows 10 is free?
Have i been a nugget by paying £10 for a key from ebay?

Anyone having issues with the HDMI output on certain monitors/TVs the DP works fine on my PC monitor, but even with W10 installed I get no signal to my TV. Might try a different TV later...

Pressing the DEL or the DELETE button does the same thing as I mentioned in my original post. Due to this I cant access the Menu to do aything.
Never seen the ACER Logo.Tried this but it doesn't work. DEL gets you into the BIOS and F12 accessess the boot menu from what I gather but neither of these work.

Any other Ideas. Ive been working on this for about an hour in total trying various methods but nothing so far. Maybe try again tomorrow and see what happens. If I cant get it to work then ill send it back for a replacement. Cheers for all the advice so far.

What's the benefit of updating the BIOS out of interest?

Yes still need to do the BIOS, yeah installed W10 days ago.

I installed Windows 10 on it by just using the media creation tool in Windows 10 to create a bootable flash drive. I just used an inactivated Windows 7 CD key, it accepted this and it seemed to install okay on the 32GB drive.

Following what I said have you got it to boot from your USB stick now though. Also turn off the network boot option in Bios if not needed it is enabled as default on these it seems. Then the Acer logo shows up on each boot.

My Acer logo was sporadic... keep pressing the DEL key repeatedly from the second you hit power on, same for F12.

Try pressing Delete. While booting to enter the Bios. Then go to boot options. Choose your memory USB memory stick to be the first boot device, using F5 and F6, I think, to change boot order. Save settings then it should boot from your memory stick, as long as the stick is bootable. I hope this helps.

Ive tried Pressing F12 but it still wont load the BIOS. Looks like it might be going back then if I cant work this out. Gutted

Try pressing F12 to bring up the boot menu. Select USB to boot from your memory stick.

Just got mine in the post. Plugged it in and connected mouse Keyobaosrd and HDMI cable. Powered on and after about 5 secs it gives me 4 options and the boots into freedos. Great.
So i want to install Win 10. Press DEL when it boots and nothing either it just shows a flashing cursor or it Turns itself off. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong? I assume I have to press DEL before the 4 options appear on the screen. Ive tried numerous times and still wont access the BIOS. :disappointed:
Ive read in some posts that you should see an ACER logo show when booting? Is this true because I dont!

My TV is very basic - Acoustic Solutions LCD26762HDF and I found this nugget in the manual

"You can change the aspect ratio of the TV for viewing the picture in different zoom modes. Note: In YPbPr and HDMI modes, while in 720p-1080i resolutions, only 16:9 mode is available"

This led me to believe I would need to do it in software but I couldn't get that to work either...

Use the TV remote, I had to take it off widescreen zoom, one of the viewing options on your tv works :wink:

I have Windows 10 Pro installed on this and all is good apart from 1 thing.

It's connected to a 1080i TV and overscan means that the sides are cropped. This is usually easy to rectify on AMD systems but I can't for the life of me fix it in the Intel drivers. I've tried reinstalling them etc

I've tried following:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro2-surfdevice/how-to-adjust-hdmi-overscan/d24c6236-c869-4b1a-9396-7d56d3b06c85

but I don't see the sliders to adjust the screen.
I also don't see the option to Customise Aspect Ratio which is mentioned in a lot of posts about overscan and Intel.

Can anyone help?

W10 is free, read back posted a link to microsoft :smiley: You should be able to 7 after 10 :smiley:

Yikes, purchased a windows 7 key as well. This mean I need to go and get a code for 10?

If I cant install it on to the ssd, how do I install it at all?

Its mainly going to be used as a basic browser and youtube for my dad.

Bit of an IT noob so help needed ...

Ive followed the instructions to download windows 7 on to a usb stick via the windows tool. I start the Revo with usb drive in the side slot and try and get into BIOS via all different options F1, F2, F8 and F10 (with and without ALT and FN etc) and I cant get into BIOS.

Does anyone have links for RAM and windows keys please?

Mine arrived today - I've just finished installing Windows 10 Pro 64bit.

After a raft of auto-driver updates (which I had to set in motion myself via Control Panel), and before installing anything at all, I've got 16.6Gb free.

Not sure why it's caused nightmares for others, but after prepping a USB stick installer with W10 on, it was just a matter of plugging it in, starting up, f12 to select "boot from USB stick" - and that was that.

For the life of me i cannot get this stupid box to boot from a UEFI USB stick.... only in legacy mode. Anybody else having this problem (trying to install Windows 10)

thank you, just to confirm windows 10 has gone on fine so far, i'll see if i can downgrade to 7 from 10 then purchase a licence and upgrade to 10 from 7. long winded i know.

thanks for the help :smiley:

this may sound stupid but, i have a windows 7 usb bootup stick. i have asked that the usb is booted first. however when the windows 7 installion starts i cannot send commands via keyboard and the mouse will not display neither. the keyboard did work on freeDOS. both keyboard and mouse are connected through the two back USB ports, mouse displays the red sensor light.. any suggestions how the input devices may not be working? i'm going to try again on a windows 10 usb stick.

Did u replaced RAM memory? do u recommend the 8gb running win 10.. Kodi..etc..

Got this this little box running today. It has the smoothest HD playback out all my RPi2, and a905 box. Got it for £52 Flubit. I was expecting it not to have enough processing power, but the newer Intel graphics chip does all the work, a powerful little media player for the money.

maybe I'm going to sound daff.. but.. without windows installed on the revo machine.. does the OS has a browser in order to b able to navigate to that link you provided? again apologies for my poor IT..

brill cheers for that mate will try it tonight.. have u boot it from USB pen created with Rufus?

Could I just install genuine Windows 10 straight away onto the revo? or do I need to install first 8.1

Would anyone here consider this "An ideal HTPC" ? (as eBuyer describe it).

eBuyer say: "Hide it behind your TV and turn it into an ideal HTPC." Will doing that solve everything? :wink:

Mine is setup and running well apart from it only wanting to have a res of 1024x768, any other res gives black bars (im using a hdmi to vga adaptor with an old vga lcd monitor). Also twitch video stutters but livestreamgui works great and so does youtube. Pretty happy with it and pondering whether to upgrade the RAM.

The tips were mainly for YouTube and local video files.

Have you tried watching BT Sport in the Edge browser? That normally uses better codecs than Chrome or Firefox. Of course if you make the video full screen or increase the quality so that it's more than 480p then it'll lag a whole lot since Flash isn't good with acceleration.

On a very old PC of mine I know that if I disable protected mode within Flash by editing mms.cfg then it'll play videos a little smoother when I watch them in Firefox. It's not recommended though as it'll leave your PC open to various attacks.

Kodi with the SportsDevil add-on is the only other alternative. You'd then just have to find a stream that doesn't buffer too much for you.

Is it only Linux mint or other versions also.

thanks mate, your a star! all sorted.

Hi, just had to dig out what I did again. I basically just searched the wireless card on the mint forums which is an Intel 3165 NGW. However, in a nutshell, connect to wired network, open terminal in Mint and copy and paste the following (without quotes):
"sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-wily"

This is the page I got it from: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=220598&p=1157482&hilit=intel+3165+ngw#p1157482

Mine is steady as I quick to boot etc. Kodi works well.

Thanks for the reply. You were right, Windows 10 works fine. I still have an RMA number and will be returning it. I really wanted to put Linux on it. Kodi is so laggy with Windows 10 on this machine.

Thanks !

Kernel version 4 eh ? we're all booting off version 3

[email protected]:~# inxi -b
System: Host: ut.home.redacted.net Kernel: 3.16.0-4-untangle-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Console: tty 0
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 8
Machine: System: Acer product: Revo M1-601 v: R01-A3 serial: REDACTED
Mobo: Acer model: Batman v: A01 serial: REDACTED
Bios: Insyde v: R01-A3 date: 12/24/2015
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron N3050 (-MCP-) clocked at 640 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Device 22b1
Display Server: X.org 1.16.4 driver: fbdev
tty size: 103x32 Advanced Data: N/A for root out of X
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Intel Device 3165
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (0.1% used)
Info: Processes: 107 Uptime: 7:16 Memory: 447.0/1927.8MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 2
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.28
[email protected]:~# dmesg | grep 'command line'
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-untangle-amd64 root=UUID=REDACTED ro ramdisk_size=100000 lang=us apm=power-off nomce nodhcp nofstab panic=5 noapic quiet splash

[email protected]:~# inxi -b
System: Host: revo.mydomain Kernel: 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine: System: Acer product: Revo M1-601 v: R01-A2L serial: DTB28EK00254405D8023XX
Mobo: Acer model: Batman v: A01 serial: DBB28110015431CF8823XX
Bios: Insyde v: R01-A2L date: 10/01/2015
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron N3050 (-MCP-) speed/max: 922/2160 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Device 22b1
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 134x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: NA (-)
Info: Processes: 185 Uptime: 12:05 Memory: 1105.7/1918.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35


[email protected]:~# dmesg | grep 'command line'
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic root=/dev/mapper/revo--vg-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7

I installed ubuntu server 16.04 without problems.
All I did was alter boot order in bios to boot off usb.
No config / bios / grub changes.
Get some 'mouse trails' when using X however firefox, chrome etc are fine.
Wifi is also configurable although I am using hard wired.

Hi - thankyou for the optimisation tips, I downloaded the codec pack and changed the setting in video but I am still getting the CPU running at 100% and video being a bit choppy when watching BT Sport via the flash player on any web browser it seems, I've tried chrome, Firefox and IE and they all seem the same, I've stuck an 8gb RAM stick in and the RAM is no where near being maxed, it's the CPU that's maxing out - I don't suppose you have any other ideas? Thanks in advance for the help

Thanks.

With regards to your linux woes have you tried debian ? Having upgraded the BIOS I also went for upgrading untangle to 64 bit because I need docker. Installer saw the emmc.

The only thing I can think of is

- I have boot legacy mode set in the BIOS
- For debian based distros (untangle, mint, ubuntu etc) when the installer starts make sure you add the kernel parameter 'noapic'
- Once installed on the emmc you'll have to add this param again to boot from the emmc. Make it permanent by adding to /etc/default/grub and doing an update-grub

If you get past this, linux runs perfectly on this box

Mine arrived today. It's going in my sons room, so will have KODI/SHOWBOX/SKY GO/YOU TUBE installed. I will list how I installed Windows 10 if it helps anybody else etc.

Installed a Kingston 8gb SODIMM. I had already downloaded Windows 10 from Microsoft.com. I downloaded the USB bootable version. I also bought a Windows 10 key from eBay for £10.

I plugged my 32gb Win 10 bootable USB stick into the side USB. (the back two had the keyboard and mouse in)
Connected my Ethernet lead.
Switched on and tapped "Delete" until the BIOS screen came up. In BIOS I scrolled across to the BOOT section. Selected USB boot and pressed F6 until it was at the top of the list. Saved and exited BIOS.
On reboot, Window install started. It asks which drive you want to install Windows to. The only option was the on board 32gb MMC/SSD. It won't install until you select "Format" for that drive.
After formatting, Windows begins to load. You will be asked to input your Licence KEY. When it's complete (around 30 mins) it will reboot. If you are not quick enough or miss it, it will try to start over again. DON'T WORRY!
All you have to do is cancel the install and reboot the machine (or press off etc)
This time press "Delete" again to enter BIOS. Scroll to BOOT and this time move the 32gb MMC to the top of the list. save and exit again.
Now windows will carry on setting up. You will be asked some options and passwords to use. Mine did one final reboot and then started as normal.
WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10...

I then formatted my 32gb USB stick and left it plugged in. In settings, I selected that Windows stores MUSIC/PICTURES/VIDEOS to the USB stick. This will save using up the precious 15gb (of the actual 29gb MMC) which was left after the Win 10 install. I might be able to free up some more by deleting some setup files/Apps no longer needed etc.
I also created a shortcut to the family server, so files can be stored there. Microsoft cloud storage is also enabled.
Everything seems smooth and glitch free so far :smiley:

I can confirm it. I had the same problem after installing Windows 10 just to do the BIOS upgrade. I plugged my serial number into the website and downloaded the BIOS it recommended and got the "this bios is not for this netbook" message. I've tried quite hard to install linux, but none of the distributions have been able to see the eMMC device. Yet W10 works fine! It's really rather annoying.

So the windows updater is borked ? Can anyone else confirm this ?

Interesting ! As when I tried to flash from dos I got similar messages saying the BIOS installed is BatmanL opposed to the new firmware file 'Batman' so it wouldn't flash unless I forced it with the /mc switch

As always : ' Have nice day ' :smile:

heh actually the new BIOS supports ACPI much better for Linux ... at least that's nice to see

Old man happy as larry, W10 is alot smoother on this than the W10 upgrade on his Acer One 722 - think it is time to do a fresh install over the 8.1 upgrade.

For those of you who like to live life on the edge....

Instructions to flash BIOS A3 from freeDOS

Download the bios bundle : http://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/support-product/6412;-;M1-601

- Extract the windows exe : BATR1A3S.exe
- Copy BATR1A3S.fd to your freedos bootable usb md5 : 4D619D6E34AC9E8E2F67B2B0B1E174BB
- Copy the dos flash utilities which are bundled with the firmware from m2-601 http://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/support-product/6531;-;M2-601
- H2OFFT-D.exe md5 : A20C4285BB9C9070E1D2B5EFFDCEE595

Boot from usb freedos
flash using
- H2OFFT-D.exe BATR1A3S.fd /all /bios /mc

(the /mc is the dangerous bit as it flashes your BIOS bypassing checks)

- say a prayer or two whilst crapping yourself and waiting for the bar to hit 100%

- reboot into your new BIOS.

WAS IT WORTH IT ? NO not for me

OK I'll try flashing from dos


If you're new to linux then it's not straightforward, for everyone else just disable ACPI from the kernel during installation and post installation and it's plain sailing from there.

I'm not holding my breath though, I've spent the last 4 weeks interviewing for a junior linux sysadmin and **** me the quality out there is poor :disappointed:

I bet some of you could do better !

Anybody had a version of Linux work without any hiccups ?

I managed to install Mint 17.3 (cinnamon) on this first time of trying. The very small issue I've had is that the wireless card wasn't being seen to begin with. it took me 30 seconds to find the fix on the mint forum. I haven't had long enough with the box yet to comment on stability but it seems fine so far.

​yeah I downloaded that file, extracted the zip and there are two folders, a "WIN" one and a "ROM" one, there is also a "readme" link, in the readme it says open the "WIN" folder and run the "flash.exe" program, however in the folder is a "BATR1A3S.exe" program in at when I run it it comes up with the error I said above about being an incorrect bios for this netbook - it's strange

The only thing I can't do is update the BIOS, I'm not sure if the one I am using is already the latest but when I download the one supposedly for this PC it comes back with a "this bios is not for this netbook" message - it is downloaded direct from ACER and shows a picture of this model but the model number seems to be different on the bios file

Installed win 8.1 on mine - it doesn't show WiFi so on Ethernet. Currently trying to update to get win 10 but seems to be stuck on checking for updates :disappointed:

I should mention that I had to change the boot setting in the bios...press DEL
during the boot process before freedos gets a chance to start...set boot setting to be the USB stick with windows 10...don't hold down
DEL or press too often, as this froze my machine

I don't think yours is faulty...see my post above, I had the same problems...windows 10 solved them

Arrived today... Faulty :disappointed:

Check out a post I made a few days ago. It'll fix all of your problems.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-revo-m1601-intel-n3050-1-6ghz-2gb-ram-32gb-ssd-wlan-hdmi-3-x-usb-3-0-free-dos-2439688?p=27909393

Also if you're using something like ABP then uninstall it and use uBlock Origin instead. It's much more efficient, especially on hardware like this.

Did you install CCCP codecs and set firefox as described in an earlier post?

this thing is slow or maybe its just mine

installed win10 64bit downloaded firefox and tried youtube 1080p 60fps

and it artifacts alot and isnt really smooth at all

would it be better to run youtube off the APPS? if it is on there

also ordered 8gb ram for it

This talk about free upgrades/downloads to windows 10 - I am missing something?
This doesn't has 7 or 8/8.1 on it so there's no upgrade path.
Unless I'm missed some freebie windows 10 thing?

I would like to have given Linux a go as I've never used it before but I specifically wanted this to be able to play SkyGo and from what I can see it is further hassle with Linux (though I haven't researched that properly)

To be honest I didn't look how much space it took and I haven't got it set up now, will get it out later when the kids have gone to bed - the way I did it was install Windows 8.1 via USB stick (that I made from an ISO file using a program named Rufus) then upgraded via the Microsoft website - it was fairly straightforward, the only thing I did that may or may not be important is during the initial installation process when it asked me to restart the computer I re entered bios and changed it back from "boot from USB stick" to the internal HDD. I did this as someone else recommended it on this thread

It does run Linux though.

I have it running Ubuntu server with a Kodi 17 front end.

I recommend it to anybody as it works rather well.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955

64x seems to run fine with 2gb, installed VLC media player and then Kodi and both playback via USB stick and Kodi stream seem to work well, neither were 4K files or anything but I've not had time for a proper play around with it

Installed windows 8.1 this morning and then upgraded to windows 10, took around an hour and a half all told - not tried anything else on it yet but will probably upgrade the RAM and get a wireless keyboard/trackpad combo for it, happy so far

isn't windows 10 free if you download the usb tool?! i had an old xp netbook. was messed up. i couldn't restore to factory settings. so just installed windows 10. no problems.

Free upgrade until July 29th https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windows-10-now-on-300-million-active-devices-free-upgrade-offer-to-end-soon/

As this wee box won't run Linux you've instantly got the cost of a Windows 10 license on top.

You've got a point on the power. Then I've a similar sized boulder in the garden that would use much less power but would run Linux better than a Reevo. :smiley:

The best one is the graphics 'module'. Appears to need a separate PSU.

Bet you're a hoot at partys lol. Irony, look it up.

WHERE ?! I would have snapped them up in a heart beat if they were that cheap. I'm sure the street price in '99 was more like £200 for 300gig I'm pretty sure that 1TBs were not available - either that or my high paying job at the time still couldn't afford it

Its not just the 1TB HD - you also get the big plastic box that can be stacked with this!

Yes, need to add USB 3 drivers to Win7 install (I recently did that with aBrix that only has USB 3). Not hard to do - easy way is use utility Intel provides for NUC (it is not specific to NUC - it just does job of adding the USB drivers): https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25476/Windows-7-USB-3-0-Creator-Utility

However I have no idea if that alone will allow Win7 to install on this Acer. It may be that eMMC is not recognised or too small, or some other incompatibility.

If have Win 7 license and planning on upgrading to Windows 10, Microsoft can be quite helpful if difficulty installing win 7 - after checking the license, they gave me a new Win 10 product key to save having all the hassle with Win 7. It seems installing Win 10 on this may not be as big an issue, so that may be best way to go for some.

Perhaps my email to the chief executive worked :wink:


https://uk-store.acer.com/accessories/revo-build

I could be wrong, but I dont think Windows 7 supports USB3 out of the box. Need separate drivers I believe.

Damn cant boot from SD and I left my usb stick at home lol Typical!

Agreed.
It's a shame about the difficulty some have had getting Linux on this. I couldn't either. I know others have described how to do it, but it seems a PITA. I got W8.1 upgrade on without a problem, but not surprisingly it wouldn't authenticate. Don't really want to shell out for a copy of Windows. Any way mines back with ebuyer having bricked it with bios defaults. We'll see what their response is. Interestingly if anyone else does this might be worth letting Acer know . I contacted them at same time and they responded after ebuyer to say return it as they recognised it as a DOA fault because it happened within 5 days.

It doesn't come with any drive at all, so out of the box you need to pay more for storage.

Then there is the running cost.

65w vs 290w ac.

For a simple HTPC the Dell is OTT.

Thank you

Tried two windows 7 images and 4 different linux distros. None would install and just hung during installation. Linux mint even gave an error about a "faulty timer". Even FreeDos had graphics issues (flickering) and the keyboard kept cutting out.

Hi, I ordered the Crucial RAM https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006YG8X9Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As for installing Win 8.1, I pressed the power button, kept hitting DEL button until the bios came up and changed the boot order to read off the USB stick first (bootable Win8.1) I had plugged in. Then let Windows install itself as usual. Then when Windows needs too restart the Revo to carry on installation, when it restarts hit DEL button again too change the boot order back too the system storage (eMMc?).

Sent last night said email this morning & must have been next day delivery because it arrived a hour ago, neighbour signed for it. Well impressed with everything :smiley:

Got this today (paid for next day delivery though). Put a 8gig RAM stick in it, installed Windows 8.1 on it, upgraded to Win 10 pro 64bit, installed anitvirus, MS office and Kodi and have around 6 gig left. Doesn't too bad for the price tbh, fan is a bit louder than expected but not too annoying.

May have too add a USB stick or portable HDD.

Mine arrived today - not had a chance to test it yet as have to go to work in a minute but will have a play when I get home tonight

It's quieter despite being bigger. It's only £10 more after cash back. It doesn't use a crap 32gb drive and an horrendous BIOS that's useless for Linux.

As both boxes may be purchased with a Linux HTPC in mind I'd say they're perfectly comparable.

I cancelled my order due to the Linux issues with this wee box. You'd be infinitely better off with one of these. http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-poweredge-t20-back-until-31-7-possibly-72-98-w-cashback-142-98-ebuyer-2442150

Purchased this and very happy with it! Took off the default FreeDOS OS and installed Windows 10 Pro... Tested a full 1080p 60FPS YouTube video. Great purchase plus you can stick some 30 quid RAM upgrade (8GB)

Hmm, I am having problem with installing Debian on this device...

Mine is STILL processing - 3 working days, no movement, call them tommorrow.

I was getting all excited then I looked in my account and discovered that it's being 'delivered' by Yodel.. :smirk:

Mine arrived - much bigger box than I expected then I saw it comes with a full size keyboard & mouse in there :wink:

Jumped on the deal and realised I didn't need it lol

Comes with keyboard and mouse! :smiley:

Back up in price, ebuyer cashing in on a popular product...now they can watch the sales drop lol

Good find OP, Heat added :sunglasses:

Have some heat.. Would be good to have home firewall like sophos installed after adding in a compatible "USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet NIC Network Adapter".

Will be kind on electricity than old laptops or PC's with dual NIC..

really didn't need one of these... why do I keep looming on this site :wink:

if it has hardware decoding can use with playlater to download and record shows off hulu amazon netflix etc to serve. i also wonder if will run android emulator like remixos? should do as modern?

The heat this is getting is quite bizarre. I thought nettops as a concept were dead. Replaced by teblets etc.
NUCs are a niche product for tinkerers.
This particular NUC seems to be very badly crippled by its makers. I was going to buy and have a play. But locked BIOS, and non-running of basic htcp distros puts me right of.

Stressed? na lol just making people aware modules may never come to Europe.

Playbook here too circa £100 Currys, dug out my Pearl 3G modem (lol) used my T-Mobile unlimited data sim (handy Android modem :wink:) with unlimited BIS too, BIS is still chugging along at 1MB download with PB...gonna be great in Europe that.


Chen hopefully will die off with OS10. Cant believe what mismanagement has done too BB :disappointed: I'm going to grab a cheap BB10 device full 3G+ speed ahead EU wide...get in!

Still in stock surprisingly :man:

I bought a Playbook not full price. Was OK for me. Until recently used blackberry os10 is great shame it has been virtually killed off.

60 quid is virtually disposable tech. Some computer games cost about this, really isn't a sum of money to get stressed about.

Wow someone doesn't like windows

I picked up an Alienware alpha (though I understand much more expensive) to run as a plex server. Got the i7 model for £450 with a student discount from their outlet store. The i3 model is often on there for £350 then it's possible to get up to 15% off like that. None on there at the moment though just an overpriced i5.

More of a "want" than "need" thing for me, so I'll pass. Looks decent, but my tablet's pretty decent with a keyboard attachment. Hell, I even use a clip-on controller and play Steam games on the go. For a server however, this does look useful.

Oh right - that makes sense. I had one briefly but assumed like many 10" Windows tablets it had full-size USB. Thanks

does it have gigabit Ethernet?

Wow, comes with keyboard and mouse. Does anyone know if it boots from USB by default, or do I have to put change BIOS settings?

I just ordered. Could anyone recommend wich OS Windows to install? and also if Kodi runs Ok and can b easily installed?

Many thanks

Could this handle sky go?

anyone know if this would run XP please? )need something to replace my old desktop for my vinyl cutter that likes xp)

Cheers.

Can't be certain as i've deleted the email. On the 29th they offered free saturday delivery so not beyond the realms of possibility. Maybe somebody else still has the email and can confirm......

Linx 10 does not, its micro. I use one as my main tablet.


Linx 1010 has full.

Is that what the email said, even more annoyed now...7 working days :neutral_face:

Most tablets have a micro-USB port only, the Linx 10 has a full-size port (USB-A) so you can plug your powerpack in and charge it same as with this mini PC. I don't understand the point you're making?

Some people seem to be very unlucky with their delivery times from ebuyer.
I am usually OK - perhaps if you live in or near a large city it helps.

25.4.16 - Ordered - selected free delivery
26.4.16 - Arrived for some reason next day, must be the additional memory I bought as well ;-)
30.4.16 - ** BRICKED - see post 191 for how to do this if you need a doorstop **
30.4.16 - RMA request acknowled - asked to phone technician. Also contacted Acer.
3.5.16 - spoke to technician Ian at ebuyer after waiting on hold for 10 minutes at about 10am this morning
Return accepted - emailed return label and arranged collection for 4.5.16

IMHO this isn't bad service, which is why I tend to keep buying from ebuyer and have done so for years.
With any luck I'll get a replacement and upgrade the BIOS before any more fiddling!

Is OK, have found the answer, was being lazy.

Acer E commerce UK 0870 043 3794

and record your call to them...
http://www.resolver.co.uk/companies/acer-complaints/contact-details


or [email protected]-euro.com

"Prime now app"? Can you supply more details please? Do I need a Prime subscription first to get this £10 off?
Thanks.

UK live chat http://acer--uk.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_landing

Having a nightmare trying to install Linux Mint at the moment.
Downloaded the iso, put it on a stick using rufus but can't figure out how to install it.
Got as far as 'Welcome to the Freedos 1.1' basically...which isn't very far at all!
Sorry to ask, but if anybody has any tips or could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

For those with soshmed accounts ask Acer about modules https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfjB35wskQucyGagfy-lhMA

https://twitter.com/aceruk_official?lang=en-gb

Revo suite via bluetooth

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acer.android.smartcontrol&hl=en_GB

Apple search Acer Remote (for windows)

Course there were. An old Dell 166 desktop for £1200 I bought did. And you could 'overclock' it to 200 by simply swopping the position of a jumper on the motherboard. Didn't even have a modem though - another 90 quid.

It's like half of you haven't bothered to read the last few pages of this thread.

This or a Raspberry pi 3 for Kodi box?

Just bought one plugging in 1 external USB3 4GB drive, with the remaining 2 USB slot I will be plugging in a DVB-t2 device and a DVB-s2 device, it should be a very cheap MythTV backend. I use a Minix Neo U1 running Kodi as a front end. Another USB device would be nice but at this price I am not complaining.

Thank you a million! Just ordered one.

Quick question. Does this support 8 channel PCM output through HDMI?
I know the windows side of thing does not support high bitrate HD passthtough. I am asking about PCM cause I am using EQAPO

Full size USB ? but on the move the powerpack wins :wink:

The Celeron N3050 is architecturally very similar to the Atom Z3735F in the Linx 10, though fractionally quicker. Also, you can charge a powerpack from a Linx 10 as it has a full-size USB port - though you wouldn't really want to do it from a tablet or a PC as it will charge faster from a 10W/2A wall charger.

OK - almost ready to hit order but fed up of searching for more RAM (offers)

Anyone just make it simple for me please (4 or 8 depending on price) and other than OS is that all that's needed?

I've had mixed experience with eBuyer free delivery - sometimes it's the full 5 working days, others arrives next day.
Pretty random.

Small world. One of them poor saps posting there was me. They had to replace the mobo on my revo but upgraded it to the pentium version instead of the atom.

The little box is great for a media player. I run 4k content at 60fps (test file with the bunny). HEVC 1080p runs fine no frame drops. I have not tried any 4k 10bit profile test files but I would expect these to not run smoothly.

I use ubuntu 16.04 minimal with this guide by the amazing Fritsch. http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955

The only downside I find is the fan. Its a little on the noisy side when it spins up.

Could you PM me the link for this seller please :smiley:

How much a copy of windows 7/10 will cost on this?

Acer will be clearing a product backlog

1) to make money off modules IF they get their act together and make available

2) discontinuing after backlog

Fri 8.34pm here, delivery NEXT tues!

"Free delivery" unless you live in NI, Channel Islands etc! Still a decent wee machine, another OpenELEC box for the house!

Does anybody know if this will work with PLEX? Will I need to purchase anything separate from this?

Great price, if only I didn't have another 5 devices which are capable of the same thing!

You must have had some bad experiences with ebuyer huh?
Free delivery. Just pinched myself - Definitely not dreaming bud.

Proof:
http://imgur.com/a/oSVoY

Does anyone know if it will be any good for emulators?

Up to the snes era mostly? Thanks.

Maybe if you paid for next day but for free dream on...

How is this for kodi/ubuntu?

Do you think it would be capable of handling 1080p streams?

Many thanks

I'll send you a photo of it if you don't believe me lol.
Got dispatched straight away on Friday and was delivered by Yodel this morning :smiley:

Moore's Law says nothing about price.

Whichever way you look at it, to get capable (although I use the term lightly here) microelectronics manufactured and delivered to you for 60 notes is incredible.

No chance...

Free delivery from ebuyer = 2 weeks for delivery,get stuff quicker from china.

Just took the plunge and bought this with the intention of putting Kodi on and also streaming BT/Skysports in my garage gym, any reason why this wouldn't be possible?

Why is it that surprising for you then?

Just thinking back to the days when people were buying PCs for over £1000 that were just about capable of running Microsoft Office and a browser, now we have yokes like this for £60. What a time to be alive!

Thanks.
Yes, free delivery. Ordered just before posting the deal.

pfsense was my first choice but required some crazy installation method of installing to another drive and cloning onto the emmc which will break if there are ever any boot header / kernel updates in the future.

Instead went with untangle which is my first experience with it and tbh it's ok and being debian offers a little bit more customisation than FreeBSD

Setup current is with two NICs USB ethernet + the onboard but VLANing into a switch also works preferring physical over virtual tbh

Bargain little box - though I'm surprised no-one has mentioned you can get the same/similar functionality with one of many cheap tablets (e.g. Linx 7) for less money and you kind of 'get a free display' included then too. Admittedly this is far more elegant than a tablet with wires hanging out the side if you want a proper setup.

Within 5 Working Days
Orders over £49.99 and under 30kg
If you order before 11pm




Hhmmmm 11 days even! I will be asking for a goodwill of some kind, minus weekends and bank holiday thats 7 days not 5.

Deliver: Tue 10th May 2016
FREE




:disappointed:



10 days, now I know we had a bank holiday but I do live on the mainland in a regular postal area, not H&i


So much for 5 days eh!

This is now back in stock - can mods un-expire this deal?

Mine arrived today. Super quick service considering it was a bank holiday!

Sorry. I meant to ask how you will use this box as a router. PFSense? Id be interested to find out

Have indeed Pal. After 16 years working in IT, you'd like to think I have. :-)

Or the network card it seems (i PXE booted but it didn't load the network drivers once in the gui so it died.. 8.1 is just fine though)

Simmer down, blow a gasket ? I'm not the one backfiring...

Information is education, I am letting people know what Acer is like...to make a informed decision on buying/returning.


Spending full price or £60 is till spending hard earned cash, no-one wants left with a duff purchase and no support...just pop along to http://www.crackberry.com to see how Blackberry treat its customers that is not too dissimilar from Acer, the latter doing it 3 times longer. :smiley:

Simmer down you might blow a gasket it's a 60 quid computer not a 2000 pound one

I don't understand the question unless of course it was directed at someone else.

For myself I already have a satisfactory setup on the M1-601 the only caveat for me at least being the lack of BIOS options especially the inability to set resume power state

What setup are you going for?

What setup are you going for?

For a great product idea and design - the usual with Acer - the norm of the after sale support channel is non existent...


Revitalise the tower market, include a portable great power bank in this day and age, then have little support of anything. You would think in 15 years Acer would learn something about after care and how vital it is....being sales driven on first sale but not further let alone software updates.


Perhaps as Revo M1 start connecting to the internet other places and Acer will provide something, given my twenty year history with them and the downfall circa the dot com boom drop of spending money on after care since then I wont hold my breath.


Acer has turned into a marketing & sales company with ok product pricing, it sells to a year on year generation cycle - newbies, most desert it because it fails to be loyal or supportive to its buyers, it depends on its pricing of products to survive solely and recycles it customer base by abusing them knowing the next customer will be a newbie to tech/Acer and thus its low to lower mid range products will sell on price alone, customers of Acer dont stay loyal because the companies activity towards them as end users.

If it was not for EU and national legislation on faulty goods Acer would not lift a finger to help its customers, its Hi, sale, bye attitude would ensure liquidation. Product faults and third party after care repair ensure most people who encounter Acer end up as Apple customers at the opposite side of the care spectrum from Acer.

Consumer recycling will eventually kill Acer.



Hope BIOS updates are coming, if not the shelf life and support of M1 for a outstanding product will beat the current holder Blackberry Playbook - great products with horrendous chief executives leading.

out of stock already

Really good review, thanks for the info:)

Opium Pulses

[email protected]:~# inxi -b
System: Host: ut.home.l33t.net Kernel: 3.16.0-4-untangle-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Console: tty 0
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 8
Machine: System: Acer product: Revo M1-601 v: R01-A2L serial: DOH
Mobo: Acer model: Batman v: A01 serial: DOH
Bios: Insyde v: R01-A2L date: 10/01/2015
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron N3050 (-MCP-) clocked at 480 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Device 22b1
Display Server: X.org 1.16.4 driver: fbdev tty size: 120x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root out of X
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Intel Device 3165
Drives: HDD Total Size: NA (-)
Info: Processes: 102 Uptime: 18 days Memory: 496.9/1942.0MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 2
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.28

Not really much in that post, looks like a kid trying different things here's my setup with untangle / debian, so similar can be applied to ubuntu

[email protected] ~ $ ut

Linux ut.home.l33t.net 3.16.0-4-untangle-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-2untangle4 (2016-01-08) i686
Last login: Fri Apr 29 23:51:47 2016 from leet.c1u3.tun.dark.net

[root @ ut] ~ # bash

[email protected]:~# dmesg | grep 'command line'
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-untangle-686-pae root=UUID=itsatrap ro ramdisk_size=100000 lang=us apm=power-off nomce nodhcp nofstab panic=5 noapic quiet splash

[email protected]:~# uptime
20:47:33 up 18 days, 8:29, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.05

One thing to facepalm is my wrong decision to install 32bit only to regret it when I was unable to run docker

​sorry typo. bought. they sent it super fast had it delivered today and just set openelec on it

​How is that anything but a shady set up? They're peeling oem stickers off old pcs and selling them. Might as well just pirate it youself rather than paying someone else.

All I need is a BIOS option to allow resume from power outage which is critical as I'm using this box as my router

I'll read through Acer's forums

Thought I posted this in the France/Italy Acer pages, I forgot too...

http://us-store.acer.com/revo-build-m1-601-ur51-media-center?utm_source=us.acer.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=CLM&utm_content=DT.B28AA.001


Scroll doen to the 'RELATED' tab and

Revo Build Portable Hard Drive Block - 1 TB
$99.99
Part# DP.HDB11.00C

Revo Build Portable Hard Drive Block - 1 TB
$99.99
Part# DP.HDB11.00C

Revo Build Audio Block
$69.99
Part# DP.AUB11.004

Sucks. Thats why I posted the support page/downloads, I had read on the forums the BIOS from launch was possibly a issue. Obvs posted it too late for you bro to know :/

Hopefully a non doorstop :smiley:


The acer forums posted above has little but a few Revo M1 things.More than you can find on google anyway lol

What does the new BIOS v3 offer ?

No , unfortunately I wasn't aware of the problem beforehand and didn't check if there was a newer Bios

Just to confirm: Did you update the BIOS from Jan before hand ?

Thank you

No problem. I do have some optimization tips, should you need them.

At first I found that some videos wouldn't play smoothly as they were using up a lot of CPU. To fix that I installed CCCP, went into the LAV video settings and set the hardware decoder to DXVA2 (native).

You might be able to play YouTube videos at 1080p or better, but not at 60fps. Install YouTube Plus (Firefox) (Chrome) and you'll get the option to disable HFR (60fps). You should also make use of h264ify (Firefox) (Chrome).

I've spent the last few days with this installing W8.1 and trying to get Linux to run.
Windows with 4GB ram runs mpegs slowly: neither Kodibuntu or Linux mint will boot from the MMC although do install OK.

BUT --- DON'T reset to defaults in BIOS as I have done or this happens!

http://community.acer.com/t5/Revo/Revo-M1-601-Black-screen-on-boot/m-p/426753#U426753

Now I also have a doorstop...

The Linux situation is confusing as several people in the reviews have installed Linux on it and they say the distros they installed work fine..

http://www.ebuyer.com/723605-acer-revo-m1601-nettop-dt-b28ek-002

Cheers, it's to replace a tower with a Pentium D from 2008 and HDD in it running windows 7 lol so should be quite an improvement I think. I accidentally broke my old Acer Revo R3700 taking it apart so think I'll sell the ram from that and upgrade this to 4GB.

Well, I've got a Gigabyte BRIX (n2807) which is similar.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/87257,81072

Mine runs Windows 10, it uses a cheap SSD and has 4GB DDR3L RAM. It'll easily play 1080p videos, it's great for general browsing, Office, YouTube etc. I often use Kodi on it and will sometimes use Steam In-Home streaming.

oh that's not good. To be honest, I could give it to a relative to replace an ageing PC but do you know how well Windows 10 runs on it? Just for say general browsing, office, youtube etc?

Is this you?

http://community.acer.com/t5/Revo/BIOS-Acer-Revo-Nettop-M1-601-M1601-Ubuntu-drivers-plus-BIOS/td-p/420941

Acer UK has had 4 Managing Directors in 30 months so no wonder its a mess for parts.


The current MD has been in place about 10 months, I'm sure all us new owners emailing him will push module stock to the UK store, he is there to make money after all :wink:


Acer UK Managing Directors email is: [email protected]

I don't yet have one of these myself to test with, so I can't really say. There are Linux benchmarks, although most of the tests are from 2015. Since then there's been kernel updates and all sorts that could of improved the results a little.

The locked BIOS B0rker mentioned is concerning. I didn't know it was locked.

Linux support seems to be very poor altogether on this wee box. The locked BIOS seems to be the main issue. I've requested to cancel my order via ebuyer enotes for this very reason.

http://community.acer.com/t5/Revo/BIOS-Acer-Revo-Nettop-M1-601-M1601-Ubuntu-drivers-plus-BIOS/td-p/420941

Think I will just stick W8.1 32bit on it and save money on not upping the 2GB RAM.

Cortana on a 32" TV at the other side of the room with a wireless keyboard and mouse is a bit of overkill for a large screen internet browsing machine, saves money on the RAM too.


Can always upgrade later when 8.1 end of main support happens in Jan 18 or extended Jan 2023 ( most probably M1 wont last till 2023 lol) https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/gp/lifecycle-windows81-faq

How well is Intel Braswell supported on Linux out of interest?

Will this run XP?

I got this one for £44 and it works perfectly.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Intel-TV-box-mini-PC-Quad-Core-Atom-Z3735F-make-TV-windows-8-1-win8/32288486296.html

They were saying that a year ago. I think Intel want to restrict HD bitstreaming to their core i3, i5, i7 mobile platforms.

Says out of stock

Thanks, Toothy1911. They seem to be sold out at the moment. Great deal though, well spotted!

OOS....shame

As usual with ebuyer, disgracefully high postage charges to NI! Their response via email to me was that is how much extra couriers and RM charge them! Not a spec of truth in that, RM, collect+, yodel etc don't charge me or my business any extra to send to the mainland from Belfast.

I recall upping my £1800 PC RAM to 512MB to install XP.. the excitement haha - was blazing fast compared to the dial up speeds haha

Drivers should be coming as pressure has been put on Intel and they are supposedly developing them for the lower end SOC's too.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/77858?start=150&tstart=0

Thanks for the info. So no one hacked windows drivers yet?

OOS

Apparently they are to be rolled out, Japan has them, under different product numbers.

Does anyone know if you can bitstream hd audio with this? I have read in few places that you can't but that was long time ago, maybe you can now?

Ordered, heat! Seems like a good box to run *nix on for some home server utilities. Don't think I would bother with it as a normal PC or media PC though that CPU won't cut much mustard

Will this run well as a hackintosh on El Capitan

Thanks

Does this have WiFi built in? Also how would you go about installing windows 10?

I already have 2 nucs with celeron processors, bought 3 years ago. Both running open elec no problem with 2gb r and using logihech mouse/keyboard combi. Since then I have purchased 2 Amazon fire sticks and for running kodi they can't be beaten, cheap,silent,discreet,portable they tick all the boxes unless you need to do lots more.

This or 4k Amazon Fire Box?

No good as a NAS I assume because of lack of Sata?

That sticker has been photoshopped with an MSDN key.

This looks to be a compatible upgrade. http://m.ebuyer.com/389673

how does this compare http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_324845.html

I have a nuc which is collecting dust... Why I'm I tempted by this lol

Return it and order another one...

​Agreed although the proc and 32 gig makes me think that the fire would run smoother and better. I'm not sure

Yes that's true but I suppose having the sticker means your probably the only one using that COA product key so it won't get blacklisted. I'd rather that than have a code in an email that could have been resold to hundreds of other mugs.

I've bought one to replace my pi3 as a bedroom media box. I'll utilise the pi3 as a network filter/firewall. Many thanks op. Just what I've been looking for.

That may give you a license code to use, but it neither gives you a legitimate copy of Windows 7 nor 10. OEM licenses are only valid for the original system they were sold with and are mostly non-transferable. you'd actually be better saving your money and using a dodgy license code off the internet.

Where did you bring it?

2GB RAM for Windows is a joke.

You can get Denial of Service for free!

This would give you more flexibility?

Blocks should be coming to the UK soon (TM) They call it the Lego Modular PC. You can attach up to 3 Blocks so for people wanting more storage add 3 x 1TB drives on the top. They can easily be removed and connected to a PC via USB3 for easy file transfer to the Revo. They also have an Audio Block, Graphics Block, Wireless Charging block and there was also talk of a Projector block.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/acer-revo-build-m1-601-review

This or a pi3 for kodi??

I'm just taking a guess here that you don't understand how MS licensing works because I pretty sure this would certainly fall into the 'shady' area. Just under a different part of the same tree.

Unless you really want/need a very small neat box, surely this is much better value for £10 more:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-poweredge-t20-4gb-ram-pentium-g3220-no-hdd-ebuyer-139-98-69-98-after-poss-cashback-2439753

Much faster CPU (3x faster from the benchmarks), 4GB RAM, fits 4 HDDs out of the box (more if you add a card), much more flexibility for expansion if needed.

Oh, actually, I did a bit of digging and the graphics module only works with the bigger, more expensive "m2" model. Shame

Try this.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955

I says here that these only have one memory slot. So you have to bin the installed 2GB memory stick.
Just a quick search found this which should work.
https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/acer/aspire-desktop/revo-m1-601?search=acer+revo+m1

Smashing bargain. My first pc cost over 1300 quid came with 386DX 40mhz cpu, with a gargantuan 130mb HDD and 4mb Ram, DOS 5 and windows 3.1, no Internet but there were buttetin boards via dial up. That was almost top line, 486 came soon after which was considerably faster.

Can you add an internal ssd in this

Is there any way to actually buy these? The graphics block in particular would make this great!

This looks like a really good box for the money, I do so wish I needed it!
Heat added anyway.

Buy it from amazon then?

Support UK http://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/drivers Search M1-601




http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Document/User%20Manual%20W10/User%20Manual%20W10_Acer_1.0_A_A.zip?acerid=635811060666048406&Step1=REVO&Step2=REVO&Step3=M1-601&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=EMEA_27
^Manual



Windows 10 64bit compatibility, BIOS from Jan, all drivers are from Oct 15 - update via Windows

modules:



Italy http://www.acer.com/ac/it/IT/content/models/options/revobuildaccessory


France http://www.acer.com/ac/fr/FR/content/models/options/revobuildaccessory

Thats all I could find EU



CZ https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=sk&u=https://www.tsbohemia.cz/acer_c75.html&prev=search

Brilliant..."The magic of wireless charging

If you have a device that supports wireless-charging technology, you can simply get the Wireless Power Bank2 module and snap-stack it on the top of your tower. Now you can just place your device on this module and pick it up when it's charged!"

"Another great option is to simply snap off the slender Wireless Power Bank2 module and take it with you! Now you can recharge your mobile devices anywhere with this module's stored power, either via wireless charging or a USB cable"




I need this....one less plug :smile:

http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/DT.B28AA.001 product page

£1800 with a free W98 upgrade apparently lol

I don't need this. Ordered.

​can you name the seller ?

Any reason why this wouldn't be able to play sky go?

I almost bought it, when suddenly I remembered that I still have 3 old PC that I hardly use

​??? Err, yes there were. I got Internet at work early in 1996 and many PCs cost £1000+. 33k internal modems were considered cheap at around £150!
And I can remember when you had to buy a browser - I've still got a boxed retail copy of NCSA Mosaic somewhere, amazingly it even came on a CD as well as floppy disks.

Cheap.. Do I need it? No. Lol

Has anyone used this to put Kodi on? would it be any good? the issue would be how to control it, could do with some sort of remote!

What is the read/write speed of this from Ethernet to external disk on USB 3.0?

Under distance selling law you have right to return for 14 days. You pay return postage though. You can open box and inspect. Then tell them why you are returning. In that situation they may refund the difference as saves them having to clear an open box. If not it's worth the £5 or so to save £20.

What are you smoking mate ? That's plain BS.... RPi2 arm performs terrible compared to this

Negatives

For those who have a boner thinking about getting a linux kernel on this think again....

Here are my kernel params


BIOS is limiting - you can't even set resume power state on a power outage which rules this being used as a router which was my purpose.

If you thought that was hard - pfsense is even more difficult to get installed on the eMMc - One guy has done it by first installing to usb and then cloning to eMMc. I copied that method.

WHY did these idiots put an m.2 wifi card in it FFS !

Positives

Pluses - only 5-6W consumed at the wall
nippy CPU for linux/freebsd.
Memory can be upgrade to 8 gig.

...looks like a good deal at first glance, but in reality, a Raspberry Pi 2 is actually more powerful at half the price. No ones realistically gonna use this for anything other than "home server" style tasks anyway.

dont see how people can even begin to complain

please try and make a similar spec for under £60 lmao

no wonder companies most likely like to rip people off because when its a too good of a deal people still moan lol

I can't seem to create a demand on Flubit anymore - they're asking for me to subscribe!

Given how crap their offers have been of late, I think I'll pass...

any good keyboard / touchpad wireless combos? I would love to use this as a vlc player for the TV. for me, vlc is the best player. no bells or whistles, just does what it says on the tin :smiley:

:smile: I meant encoding lol

£53.19 with flubit. thanks OP

My first PC cost £1500 and came with Windows 95 which includes Internet Explorer.

I did start to try that method but ran into blue screen issues. I probably could have fixed that but I got lazy & stuck w10 pro on it.

Was is this thing? Sounds like I need to buy one whatever it is.

Ignoring that, a USB3 external could be used right?

And if anyone is wondering - yes you can transfer licences for Windows as long as you aren't using it on another computer.

On the subject of money .. I'm going to invoice Bill f@@king Gates for all the time I've wasted updating Windows when I see him. When I switch on Windows now its for the purpose of taking their massive / slow updates. Ever wonder why they dont show how fast the downloads from their servers are? Probably because it's really slow.

Tempting. Got win 8 key and might be able to run visual studio.

God that is amazing for under 60 quid.

​Places such as Amazon do refund the difference though!

No it isn't.

It's perfectly up to the job for video decoding.

Too late now - sold it on fleabay for £100 & bought an Intel NUC.

I've hardly noticed the fan coming on.

Disconnect it because this SOC won't generate enough heat to require it.

Anyone bothering with Windows 10 is missing the point. Linux Mint Mate, Lubuntu, Xubuntu.. would all run better. Kodibuntu and you have a dedicted Kodi box which handles video properly, unlike the shady android boxes on Ebay. (Although the fire tv box is good as above).

Got one of these and have used Librelec and currently running VAAPI with Krypton v17 based on Ubuntu 16.04 server, both of which work very well.

The best use of this box is as a media streamer/player for your TV.

He is used to W10 after 8.1 changing OS is just going to confuse him, all in one every device. He only uses IE /Microsoft Edge for basic browsing. The rest of Windows he does not use, boot, browse, shut down.

No streaming just browsing, WP banking apps. This is simple and perfect for him to put next to the Sky box to boot and change HDMI2 channel on the tv remote, browse, shut down and go back to HDMI1 for Sky. Simplicity.

The hardest part of the order is the sewing machine lol non standard windows, £250 for the lounge curtains ? £50 and a bit of sewing work! Yes that will be my job haha...

There is only one man in my house, me.. and I can turn my hand to anything excluding gas and electric :wink: Got to keep money for all these HUKD bargains :smile:

will it run 4k and h264 and h265?

Went for this - will replace my Win XP work PC that chrome keeps saying it no longer supports.

Would this be any good just to be used as a Plex server?
Not looking at multiple streams or 4k stuff, just being able to stream movies upstairs to a Now TV box with Plex.
Thanks :smiley:

Mint is much easier than Windows 10. It's a nightmare for old people. Lubuntu or Mint Mate are more like XP than XP was.

And if you use prime now app you can get this for 55 quid

You have right to return within 28 days if you brought online, I would.

Which RAM are we looking at and where from? I'll wait till i have the bix before splashing out though. I've hadbad experience of deals being 'canned' after ordering.

CPU looks to be comparable with the N2830 in the Celeron NUC. With something like Windows 10 it will be pretty rubbish at most things, even you tube wont be great. However anything it can hardware decode should be good - use mine for 1080p Kodi and PVR playback. My NUC with memory and SSD was around £150 so this is a bargain.

I ran Openelec on a Acer Revo RL70 but it was too limiting,bought Fire TV which was excellent as fast as the Acer.
The catch up addons are hit and miss ITV being the best.
Netflix never worked for me on standalone openelec.
Now running a Shield TV.

You can put netflix and all the catchup services on KODI if you like...but the Amazon box will have 4k future proofing...so when everything is 4K in 2020 you'll be laughing

Running a KODI build on a dedicated machine will always be better than sideloading it onto a Fire device...great for most but easier on a proper machine, p[lus wired so better for playing high bitrate content

quite tempted to grab one of these as a spare box will be fine for kodi...someone mentioned a free version of Window 10? How dies that work exactly?

anyone know if openelec can be installed on this.??

Would buy one but to many things bought on Hukd. This site should come with a warning, buy responsibly... as I will have to climb over all i have saved here to get in the front door

and heat added ;-)

anyone recommend a good remote to use with this and openelec ?

When you consider that the addition of W10 makes this £199 at PC World, then this is a fantastic price. Unfortunately, can't find a use for it myself.

Wow , almost 600 degrees in a few hours.

OOP`S i was wrong again,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_%28web_browser%29

Purchased, thanks OP!

Now i can put the fire TV box in the west wing where the signal drops off.

It's got rubbish 32GB eMMC storage soldered in - it is NOT SSD storage - a lot slower and if it fails you have no means of replacing it. Plus, unbelievably the unit is not even silent - it has a cooling fan which over time will get noisy.

Why else do you think they have to drop the price again to shift it.

Comes with keyboard and mouse. Bargain.

Does anybody know the shipping box dimensions? Thanks

Ohh that doesn't sound nice at all, I don't want to suffer.

If they drop another £20 I will bite.

You should be able to cancel. Or just order another one at the lower price and refuse delivery of the first one.

Thanks OP I was going to get this the other day but adding this http://www.ebuyer.com/582006-vida-sewing-machine-fhsm-505eby my postage was not free, today it is and £82.97 for both :smile: HEAT

Nice little machine for browsing ...

I was looking into a new 4K HTPC but it looks like waiting for the next gen Intel and AMD in Q3 is the logical thing to do - plus the lack of 4k content.

Anybody simply looking for a 4K media box should look at the new HiMedia players:
http://www.futeko.com/products/MP068.php
http://www.futeko.com/products/MP067.php

10 bit
4k
HDR10 + Dolby Vision
7.1 HD audio

Not sure if this will run crysis? :smirk:

Heat added, great deal OP!

​l brought this at 11:00am at 79.00, this afternoon it drops to 59. bit upset with ebuyer to be honest

Amazon do a price drop guarantee, and one or two other places. It makes sense for an online retailer because distance selling regs give the power to the buyer and the buyer can just return the item. It's better for the seller to give the difference rather than refund the whole amount and process the return.

no but under 4GB you will suffer.fact.

Cheap piece of kit, might get one for openelec.

Ace price for a cheap Kodi type box, RAM and a small storage drive included too :smiley:

Yep, a curved belly mouse mat goes well with a curved TV :smile:

Yeah I agree, approx 2000 for a CPU to be any real use. Even my 6 year old I3-350M laptop is about 2000.

No space for another drive :-(

Very true, but to be honest a lot of people here have had success doing this with Amazon and them refunding the difference. Obviously different retailers and very different customer objectives.

HEAT!

Brilliant little media server come kodi come steamer come doorstop ;-)

Would imagine this will fly with either amiduos or ubuntu on it..

I personally find a wireless mouse to be the best. You can lay down in bed and use your belly as a mouse mat :laughing:

Or any number of apps on a smartphone.

Actually it's a good point he/she is making. I posted this just 4 days ago at £79.99 on one of their Daily Deals, which was advertised on their home page.. It's a bit underhand to then slash it by £20 a few days later and not offer any sort of refund for the difference.

Given up expecting my new LG smart TV to behave (the software is horrible) so I'll use this as a media hub. Linux Mint and Kodi/XBMC. Sorted.

Have some heat.

It would be nice if Acer released an i5 6260U version of this, by which I mean at a competitive price. Bit fed up of Intel barebones NUC computers (which come without memory or storage), where it works out to be much cheaper to buy a similarly spec laptop that has the additional advantage of coming fitted with memory, storage, keyboard, trackpad, battery and screen. Anyway! I can't find this modest spec Acer cheaper, so have some more heat.

if it had gone up in price and they had phoned you and asked you for more money would you have given it to them?

the CPU is just about OK:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+N3050+%40+1.60GHz&id=2541

(2000 is my threshold for me to find a computer useable).

I bought one of these for £99 a few months ago.

Nice little device, may want to upgrade the RAM.

Re license, I bought a Win10 license off kinguin for £20, not sure on it's legality though.

Upgradeable to 8GB RAM

Yes I have also bought from this guy if I'm not mistaken. They're not technically permitted to sell an OEM licence without the PC it came from hence offer the PC it came on with should you be one of those b*******ds who believe in this stuff.

Linky, Linky please woldranger.

you can install windows 10 for free! some features are disabled, and my 2 PC's that i rebuyilt with a fresh copy of it have never had any issues for the past 5 months!

kick in the teeth to anyone who bought the other day :disappointed: including me, just called and they wont return the difference either.

Link? AM interested

Have some heat!

Comes with freedos http://www.freedos.org

Guessing no operating system with this?

now you could use this as a cheap media centre