I'm the OP, I am a woman, personally I feel empowered that in today's society I can openly go into a shop on the high street, buy nice lingerie and anything else that takes my fancy without feeling "grubby" in some back street blacked out window shop. If you visit Ann Summers on any day of the week, it's full of women. I post the deals for people like myself who live in remote areas or for those who still find it difficult to walk through those doors & I will continue to post them as it's like anything in life, horses for courses and all that, I love marmite!! :smiley:

This site is for posting deals. This is a lingerie deal. Posting images of the products you can buy isn't bad, is it? If you're upset about the fact they are lingerie images, then you have a huge mountain to climb. Click the "Get Deal" link and brace yourself.

And to counter this "men" argument. The CEO of Ann Summers is a woman.

Your original post finished by telling the previous posters in this thread to 'grow up'. You were on the attack from the start, but then criticise people for being defensive?

You are entitled to your opinions and I respect them, but they would be far more valid had you not come into a thread about Ann Summers and Lingerie telling people to grow up. If images of women in lingerie (no different to male models advertising male underwear I should add) and the inevitable comments that would follow pictures like that (of men or women), then don't click on a link that will take you to them...

...but then, it's not about you being offended is it? You clicked the link because you saw an opportunity to preach about women being objectified and wanting equality. Unfortunately in this day and age, with Magic Mike and 50 Shades taking a large chunk of the female box office, and male underwear ads featuring David Beckham and Ronaldo wearing next to nothing, your 'equality' crusade is a little outdated.

What? That I haven't posted more photos? :stuck_out_tongue:

code SPEND50 works on whole site (inc half price sex toys) to take £10 off £50 spend.

I think some of the stuff they sell is meant to help please yourself :stuck_out_tongue:

I got better things to do than buy this **** to please someone else :stuck_out_tongue:

Try TalkSport and have your pick of most hours.

You've had your break now get back to your ironing ...

Thanks just ordered a few bits. Also FYI it flashed up on the website 10% off with code 'summer' and it worked. :innocent:

Agreed (as long as it's not Jenny Murray), but where is the men's equivalent? More proof that we're downtrodden!

As a man I have to say that Women's Hour on R4 is usually a good, interesting and informative listen. I recommend it.

They are so ugly and tacky! I would have never ever worn them

I'm a woman and love the blokes banter! There's a reason these threads always go scorching and it's not for the value of the deal. If you don't like it jog on. Although not in one of these bras, they are not at all supportive :/

You're so bossy.

BTFO!

I've got a great idea Nicola. Get off off your pedestal and grow up.

Missy, you're my hero(ine). Unfortunately I can only give you a single 'like'

So, Nicola: one month and one week in and you're still torturing yourself on this site? Can't help feeling you've singlehandedly kept this thread alive!

Thanks op,some good deals.and Nicola if it angers and annoys you,don't look at the deals,it's the 21st century and I couldn't give a monkeys what some blokes say on here it's banter.

The point in lingerie IS to objectify, not in a negative way though. People throw this term around way too liberally.
I personally like seeing a woman I'll have sex with dressed up.
I do however get annoyed about the toy-double standards. Women have been slamming robots inside of themselves for years, however a guy can't introduce his good friend to a few toys without a chunk of looks and snickers that will also come from women. I assume it's just the misunderstood.

Either way, do what you want. Dudes, if you wanna put a rampant rabbit up yourself, power to you. Women, if you wanna wear crotchless pants and fill yourselves to your hearts content (that totally works), do what makes you feel good.

There is some hostility, however it is a response and a reaction to your inflammatory attitude.

Ann Summers is a business entity which primarily targets women as a customer and is run by women.

They are using sexually alluring imagery to showcase their products.

If that makes you feel uncomfortable then please divorce the issue from one of feminism - equal pay, job opportunities, voting rights, childcare and child rearing are topics of equality.

Whether a female model chooses to participate in a marketing campaign sponsored by a company run by a woman for female customers...is not a feminist issue.

It's a sex and body image issue which is yours and yours alone to deal with. This site does not have to provide trigger warnings or protect you from human sexuality.

How the hell have I missed this thread for a month +!

It has everything anyone could want, Sex, Drama, GIFS!

Link to item in pic
Maddison Balconette Bra was £30 now £8.55

No, the point wasn't missed. Clearly you are wanting to see things a certain way.

No, the point wasn't missed. Clearly you are wanting to see things a certain way.

It's getting hot in here.....

So hot in fact that Andywedge appears to be having to untwist peoples knickers. At least replacements will be sexy and good value...

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​how very dare you. I feel abused by these pics of scantily clad men and objectifying them. it's like the 60s. :smile: I am a middle aged man and feel disgusted.!!!!!!

only joking. I wouldn't even think of saying this of all men but the majority of men will probably only think that they wish they look like this and not think sexism. do you reckon this is the main problem the other way round. :man:

Has anyone gotten something for bogof?

​Did you get anything buy one get one free?

Thanks, ordered some things

How do you make items bogof? Can't see anything about the offer on the site, is it a code?

You are incorrect, I have not been anti-man but anti sexually suggestive behaviour on this site. It's inappropriate. Whatever hang ups you have about what you think a feminist is has nothing to do with me but all to do with you. A feminist wants women to be treated equally to men.

It's been pointed out to you before that words such as 'shriek', 'hissy fit' are in themselves sexist as they are appropriated at women yet you continue to use such language.

I'll leave it from here because you really are not worth further discussion. Its futile.

Conversely, your own motives have been clear from the outset. Something akin to "If you won't bow to my anti-man agenda, I'll thscweem and thscweem until I'm thick". How apposite :wink:

To the moderators on this site:

You deleted my post because I used a 4 letter word beginning with W with an asterix in it; this word being a colloquial word for masturbation. You deleted it within about 30 seconds. Yet there are numerous posts on here with masturbation gifs. You thus must deem them inoffensive as 4 weeks later they're still here. Goons above this post have made references to ejaculating in the models mouth. This is not offensive I take it as 24 hours later they haven't been deleted? There is an erection animation above. You must deem that inoffensive as it has not been removed.

Can you please explain the disparity here? You deleted my post because of a four letter word with an asterix in it. Within 30 seconds of my posting it.

As at the moment it stinks to me of bias and I this feel hotukdeals ethics are extremely questionable. I may take this point to Twitter to see what the rest of the world thinks of your ethics and your complete indifference to the sexually derogatory, sexually offensive language and sexually offensive behaviour to women.

Your indifference to inappropriateness of the comments/images in this thread is quite outstanding.

It's sad to see that having failed to browbeat her opposition into silence, and steamrollering any contrary opinion by proclaiming all who would oppose her as "Neanderthals" who won't allow her voice to be heard, nicola now resorts to threats. And yet feminists still wonder why the word is met with scorn?!

The even more bizarre truth of course in all these comings and goings , as I'm sure everyone knows , technically male of the species could become redundant in the not too distant future


still nichola will be happy :smile:

Id never stoop to wasting my life away on those 'social media' sites

I haven't actually explicitly said I object to it, more that I think its an argument worth having. I think the masturbation/erection comments are indicative of the objectification of women though. Such comments aren't intrinsically bad, but its about balance. If it gets to the stage where people think they aren't valued properly as humans that probably isn't ok and is at least worth considering. Given the hyperbolic reaction to nicolanicolanicola's points I have been swayed into thinking there is a problem here, but I am open to that opinion because I see so much sexism in the world in general [I am particularly infuriated by the idea that sexism in the UK doesn't exist any more! (not something you said of course - just a side point)].

A caveat to all this is that it is, of course, hard to tell whether someone is making purely a joke or just a lewd comment suggestive of the wider attitude towards women. E.g. I said that I think one of the posters is actually satirising the others, although I could be completely wrong of course!

But as for your point about 'controlling a public forum'. Well, it would be crazy if I a) could b) wanted to. But that doesn't mean that if I see something that I think is wrong I should just ignore it!

I broadly think people should just be nicer to each other. I think most of the jokes are relatively uncalled for and could be 'intimidating' - a word nicolanicolanicola has been mocked for. The lingerie pics themselves again, aren't intrinsically wrong or anything, but it is rather obvious that large pics are reserved (almost) exclusively for these kind of products and there does seem to be a certain unpalatable glee taken on these pages by people body shaming/objectifying these pictures. (I say almost because I have seen the OP post large pictures of non-lingerie items.)

I think you can, quite reasonably, disagree with almost everything I've said above, except - I hope - for the fact that I have a right to have that opinion, to express it and that as an argument its not frivolous. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps nicolanicolanicola is wrong (we have, slightly different stances of course) and perhaps you are - but when people shut down debates without any due diligence and respect, like many have tried to do with nicolanicolanicola, I find that worrying.

Anyway, have a nice day, sorry for the long reply - I type insanely fast. I should also point out that I like the fact that you've replied to me in a completely civil way, even if you disagree with me. Much appreciated.

I don't recall insulting you, but I do recall 'insulting' your opinion. Actually, I'd personally use the word 'questioning', 'rebutting', or even 'ridiculing', rather than 'insulting' it, but I have seen how you tend to consider what words are available and pick the most offended one. I make no apology for rebutting what I find to be an entirely illogical argument, but if you feel I have insulted you personally as opposed to your views then I'm happy to apologise. If you wish to have a platform to share your opinion (which as I've said previously I uphold your right to have, irrespective of my belief that you're wrong) then you have absolutely no choice but to accept that others have the right to counter it. That's called democracy.
D'ya know, you really can't help yourself can you? You're doing it *again* - your hypocrisy is breathtaking. See that bit up there where you say "you don't know me" and how putting words in your mouth is "insulting, and patronising"? Can you spot any issue with that position vis a vis your statements in the following paragraph about how I apparently am not interested in what you have to say, and how I'm on "some sort of crusade"? I *would* say that I find those comments from you 'insulting' and 'patronising' but the irony would go straight over your head. You simply don't get to do that - if you want to suggest that people shouldn't presume to know your motivations, don't tell them you know what theirs are.

In fact, pretty much *everything* you've written in your post is transparently wrong, and to be honest it's becoming tiresome pointing out these flaws to you, as you only seem to shriek louder about how you've been 'intimidated' by seeing pictures of lingerie-clad women and are not remotely interested in hearing why people think you might be overreacting. Cheerio :wink:

sexism really isn't going to be on the same level playing field as racism , for perhaps the next thousand years maybe longer

But then it would be AHHHHHHH :smirk:

Depends where you put it :sunglasses:

I'm reasonably sure that the way society considers women has little to do with erections or masturbation over pictures of women. Both things are natural and are going to happen no matter what any other person's feelings about it are.
In fact, I'd say female masturbation probably makes up a significant proportion of Ann Summers' revenue, right?
I don't think it says in the title underwear only, so female masturbation products should be expected.
I don't find talking about buying the girls funny, but hey it happens, I'll choose to ignore the comment.
Guess what? You can't control other people's opinions in public forums so why get bothered. All you can control is your reaction to it.

Whats the code for the bogof price?

Must be something small to be able say aahhh. I usually hear gargling :sunglasses:

That's gone over my head...

Where does it say HUKD is a family site? I missed that..

I'll put something in her, and she'll say aahhh :man:

Heat added.

Threads like this can bring undesirables out, I once thanked someone for posting a deal like this as I bought the item, not long after I received a message from a member asking me to send them photo's of myself in it ( shudders ).

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Most entertaining thread ever.

Come on - get on life. If it upsets you and bothers you that much then don't read any more comments. Definitely needs moving to discussion section now. Was a good deal originally OP.

Well I have to say some of the comments made me laugh,as the underwear followers comment usually do.
The standard of photography at Anne Summers is very good, worth looking at as a pro photographer.You can always learn about lighting from other peoples work.

Come on guys, literally nobody cares

Free speech doesn't bother me at all. Proclaiming "you know this bugs me" is again personal. You don't know me at all. So to imply that I am not in favour of free speech is insulting, and patronising. This is why I haven't really got into any discussions with you previously. Your stance to me, seems to be to shoot me down using insults rather than listen to my point of view.


This language is implying to me that you feel you are speaking on behalf on the people in this thread, which in itself is intimidating. Who have I to back me up? No-one as those who did agree with me didn't feel comfortable saying so in this thread. They PM'd me instead. Who is us exactly? You are on some crusade against what I have to say. Thus, you are not interested in what I have to say, but in only opposing anything I say. It feels to me you simply want to come across as in the right rather consider someone else's viewpoint. Had this been a thread where something that felt racist to me was said, and I mentioned that, would you be standing your ground at all costs in order to imply my viewpoint was wrong? How else does anyone find out that their behaviour is not acceptable to some people other than the people they are having fun discussing (i.e. a woman) pointing out that fact? Would you rather not know is that what you're saying?
Why would I call myself that? It was those posts I asked to be deleted because they were extremely offensive.


I didn't see that post, I know you feel your whole sense of righteousness depends on this point, not sure why :/ bit of an odd one. I don't see how someone feeling intimidated and me not replying to that means that thus I am uncaring. If the post was presented in a way of just another way of demeaning what I had to say, then I probably would ignore it. The entire response to my points has been insulting me as a way of quashing my point. I'm not interesting in opening myself up to more insult. Oh look, above, there is an example... nicolaworld You are now implying I am living in my own world because of my point of view. How utterly insulting and demeaning. Have you no awareness of how you come across?
Really? Bringing Hitler into it? What on earth has Hitler got to do with any of this? That I (and other women who PM'd me) find images of masturbation and discussion of male strangers sexual desire offensive and intimidating, is as off the wall as Hitlers beliefs? Come on. You're just making yourself look desperate here.

You are not interested in my point at all. You are not interested how the comments on this thread made me or anyone else feel. You simply want to, somehow, prove me wrong. I see no point continuing any discussion with you. It has become about nitpicking and being in the right.

I know this bugs the poop out of you nicola, but I'm afraid men do have the right of free speech, even when what they say isn't what you want to hear (notwithstanding the rules here about flaming, of course). I've no doubt you'll have seen the old Voltaire (I think) quote too, about defending your right to say something I don't like. You're simultaneously arguing that you should have the right to decry things, but that others shouldn't have the right to say otherwise! Tell us, nicola, how many posts exactly did you ask to be removed?


I am very willing to offer a full apology if you can find it, but I'm fairly confident it was YOU who said "ugly, old, prude", not anyone else.


Oh look, that reference as to how things made you feel again. Still no answer to the poster who said that your posts made him feel intimidated? No, thought not. Sorry nicola, but you don't get the right to be upset that nobody cares if you're upset by something when you're, by your own words, uncaring about how you upset others. C'mon, even in nicolaworld, there has to be at least a token nod toward equity, right?


As has been previously said, Hitler had some private support too - even allegedly from our own monarchy.

I put a * in it to make the word not as offensive.

Plus I deem images portraying masturbation offensive. You didn't delete them within 30 seconds. In fact I do believe they're still on the thread.

It seems to me that those involved in this thread want to defend their "right" to objectify and share their sexual desires and would defend that at all costs. Thus I was called ugly, a prude, old, jealous etc. Those involved did not want to consider how their actions made me feel. I was even told I shouldn't have clicked in the thread!! Why on earth shouldn't I? I didn't expect discussion about masturbation and erections. How dare I express my revulsion, intimidation and exclusion?

As you said in a previous comment, what shocks me is the amount of negative comments I got back. As you said I'd have had less for saying something racist. Why is that? What is it about my challenging of this behaviour that brings out the aggression that it is?

As I said before, I got 4 or 5 PMs saying well done for standing up to them. This is not being boasting about me 'being right'. I am not interested in winning an argument, only making people aware of how their behaviour affected me. What the PMs said to me though was that these people didn't not want to face the same abuse and derision that I did and so did not comment on the thread. Thats a terrible thing.

Censored! I just replied and it's gone!

Ah, of course. My fault - I thought you meant a different position entirely :disappointed:

You said you were putting it above the parapet. I'm actually wishing you no harm! Hope the nice day part has come true regardless :smiley:

I would pork um!!!

And you were trying to maintain the moral high ground? lol

Seriously these conversations should be taken to another forum. I usually ready the counts for recommendations, tips etc. disappointing

Cant see how the BOGOF works entered code and nothing!

I was going to write a long comment [I type too fast] countering yours and give some examples of the vilification nicolanicolanicola received post moderation, but then I saw these wise words of advice from robj73 and I think s/he is onto something:


I'll just make 3 quick points:

1) You're right about the first pornography comment. Always happy to correct errors and have done so. Not sure it invalidates any of my points though.

2) In a thread where people make reference to having an erection/masturbating over/wishing to solicit girls they see in large pictures I don't think it is remotely ridiculous to suggest that there is still something wrong with the way society, and indeed the HUKD forum, considers women.

3) I am of the opinion that many of the posts attacking someone who made this point are part of this problem and were disproportionately aggressive and full of remarkably false argumentation. In essence the opposing viewpoint was shouted down by volume rather than through a civilised debate where two sides present their opinion and attempt to move towards a resolution. This happens throughout the internet of course, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

Have a nice day, I hope your head is not involuntarily penetrated in its new position.

No, sorry, that's not remotely an accurate portrayal of where this thread went and I've really got to stick my head back above the parapet. I struggled manfully (although such a sexist, anti-female, and objectifying term will probably get me a black mark, oh hang on, another can of worms opened there too) to resist the temptation to reply to your previous post, especially when you suggested my strawman reference was invalid - it wasn't, by the way, since nicola mentioned pornography first, not me - but to suggest nicola was 'hounded' from the thread is a long long way away from the truth. She sought out the material she is apparently intimidated by, in actively selecting and opening a thread that she now admits she knew full well would contain material that she finds objectionable, and set about remonstrating with anyone posting anything remotely akin to innuendo, demanding that her view be heard while simultaneously complaining to the moderators to have views not in line with hers removed, and using misandrist terms to attempt to verbally intimidate other posters. When challenged repeatedly for her views on how she felt about knowing that other people were intimidated by her views, she refused to answer, while at the same time telling everyone how they should be ashamed at how intimidated *she* was. Her hypocrisy was breathtaking, and if she's decided to no longer participate in the thread, I'd suggest it was more to do with her recognising the weakness of her position than her feeling too scared to engage.

Deal back again. Where's Nicola?

Oh look an opportunity for grown men to post scantily clad pictures of women on a family site. As a woman, this makes me feel objectified and thus makes me feel excluded.

Think of other people. Oh and grow up.

OP

As a family man, I would like to thank you for posting the shop name in the title and also a none shocking image that would not have been shown before the watershed, I was able to make the decision not to click on the link time little ones were in the room.

I also checked xhamster and they don't have the same deal also the women weren't wearing much cloths at all, so confused.

I was tilting my laptop back and forth to see if i could get a better view of the cleavage and thought..
'Silly me.. i shouldn't do this with my wife beside me' :stuck_out_tongue:

RIP Ronnie Corbett :disappointed:

There is far too much text & not enough pictures in this thread...

'Get a grip' may not be the best choice of phrase!

There was a bare bum on emmerdale last night!! REVOLUTION!!

Bloody hell! What a fuss over some **** underwear, there's more to moan about than this. Some people need to GET A LIFE!

Nicola, I've twice in my lifetime lost out to an attractive woman with "obvious charms" for a job.
Both times (lightening does strike twice) I was latterly offered the position when neither were any good.

Sexism works in all sorts of directions. Its a bit like racism, if you believe racism is just black v white, you are very much mistaken. Its multi faceted, and we all stereotype - its human nature.
But you most certainly did come off all high and mighty in your very first post by telling people to "grow up".
If _you_ were the subject of "objectification" that would be entirely different, but you weren't in the photos, it was other girls - who were presumably from the pictures happy to get paid to be a model.
It would be like me getting offended cos girls were slavering over pictures of David Beckam. I personally wouldn't though, as that would just be petty jealously on my part. (And probably be more about my own insecurities)

Also, way to go stereotyping every bloke who drives a white van as a potential "offender".
I'm sure many of the working class men on here will appreciate the sentiment, and be the same imminent rapist you call on when your boiler needs a repair. Good work :smiley:

The lingerie threads really never disappoint :L

I bet the woman crying will be the first one to expect men to hold the door open for her, open car doors etc :smirk:

last week I said that one day Ann summers would be deal of the day !!

I might win the lottery next !

Why are bigots like nicolanicolanicola allowed to be members of HUKD, unless (s)he is just a spotty teenager trolling from his parents basement?

:wink:

Just got two pairs of pants for £4.50 because of my student discount code. Heat!

This is just sad.

sad sad sad.

oh hey!, marmite loving OP.

At the end of the day, most of us men we ain't got these beauties to decorate and most of women (especially those moaning around here) don't have that body, so we all save money by not buying this stuff. This should be actually posted in freebies for all the visual satisfaction we get for free :smiley:))

The admin was like: "look at all these pleb arguing here, I'm gonna make this HUKD Pick :>"

i was going to like this post but felt it would send the wrong message about my innermost desires :laughing:

And they aren't even being paid!

Half of the 15yr olds these days had already masturbated to thai transsexual midgets vomiting at each other during **** intercourse and their naive mothers are worried about poor Bobby seeing Ann Summers model wearing a bra.

Get a grip, ladies.

I only click on te Ann Summers deals for the comments, this one really didn't disappoint :laughing:

It's not a sex shop for women. It's for people.

Don't think your hostility towards Nicola is warranted , it's unfair and portrays you as a arrogant, naive and one would presume young single guy or soon to be single if your girlfriend sees this post. Do yourself and others a favor and dispense with your immature comments

Soooo much drama for few women in underware... Feminism at its finnest...

Too many women using the 'men' argument these days. Grow up.

Too many. :laughing:

Any Cadbury's Flake deals?

This its what's wrong with this site. To many jobworths

Just got here, have i missed much?

I'd say those pictures are as family-friendly as you can be. Most of your families have started with missus wearing something from Ann Summers to bed.

The automatic 20% off hasn't applied for me. Got lingerie in my basket. Is the offer still on?

Without wishing to resurrect a dead thread, I did promise a reply (even if I'm late).

RE Nicola's first reply. This was:


Perhaps the 'grow up' bit is unnecessary, but I don't think any of it qualifies as extreme. Whilst I accept there is a counterargument I don't think its particularly extreme to raise the idea that constant posting of large pics on lingerie threads might be construed as objectification. Part of this counterargument should include the aims of IwishIhadadonkey who puts large pics up in other less sexualised deal threads too: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/50-off-everything-inc-sale-free-delivery-free-returns-brand-attic-2413899

RE porn being a strawman. You did say:


I was merely pointing out that this isn't entirely accurate, for a lot of reasons. If you want to talk about strawman arguments perhaps best not to do so when you're telling someone that pornography isn't illegal even though they've never mentioned pornography. [Edit: this was actually wrong, it was mentioned by a poster first. My apologies]

RE Hissy fit: I definitely agree you weren't using it with intentional negative connotations, but I do think its an example of sexist language which is embedded into our culture, and which we all unwittingly fall victim to at some stage or another. I've used this example before, but I don't consider myself to have a sexist mindset, but at the same time I still catch myself using phrases which clearly are sexist! ("Man up", "Don't be such a girl"). Its hard to escape, so its good to draw attention to it now and then. Its the same with shriek. How often do you hear that word applied to men? It might seem harmless, but it has a cumulative effect imho.

RE Mod stuff. I can't really comment on that as I didn't see posts before they were deleted. Hard to judge half a conversation. I appreciated Nicolanicolanicola hasn't replied to one of your comments concerning offence. I imagine, somewhat understandably, she's walked away from this thread. But perhaps I can venture a response:

Again, this argument would be a tu quoque. Even if you accept that nicolanicolanicola's posts were offensive, that would not make the substance of her argument, that the original posts were offensive, wrong. So in a debate about the prevalence of large pics of lingerie-clad models on HUKD it would be completely irrelevant. So, for example, being a sensitive soul, I don't really like these big pictures and thus sympathise with the thrust of nicolanicolanicola's argument, but disagree with her generalisations of men and phrases like 'boy's club'. Those two positions aren't mutually exclusive.


Actually, lust is a cardinal sin, and its origin would have been the Greek Πορνεία [porneia] which means fornication. So whilst I definitely misinterpreted what you said, your hypothetical lads are still off to the sulphur pit :smiley:

Have a nice day! Avoid the sulphur!

By the way, where did you get the bit about 'masturbating teenagers' from? I mentioned a room with young people looking at pornography, nothing about an activity that a good Catholic lad would find himself in a sulphur pit over :smiley:

Beautiful pictures of beautiful women in beautiful lingerie at bargain prices. What's not to like?
Heat added.

Hi Gestr
Personally, I feel that nicola's reaction *has* been 'extreme', since it is my genuine belief that her very first post on the thread was a considerable over-reaction to the content that had then been posted (in fact, I'd suggest that some of the less adult posts were actually a reaction to *her* content, rather than the thread content, but hey you pays yer money...). I'd even go so far as to say her first post might potentially be considered 'provocative', flame-bait almost. I'm glad you got that the comparison to Hitler was 'fun' rather than a genuine comparison, though. Your complete point about porn is a strawman argument though, as I don't remember suggesting that *all* porn is legal, but I'm more than comfortable with my web history, thanks for asking!
'Hissy fit' wasn't used with any intentional negative connotations, but 'the vapours' might have been - I was attempting to convey my thought that Nicola's reaction was nearer to something I'd expect during an episode of Downton Abbey than a 'modern' society where liberated women get stroppy if you hold a door for them. The 'shrieking' bit was that, having provoked the reaction that was inevitable to her original post, Nicola then complained to the mods to have the content disagreeing with her removed, and (far from the position of someone else in the thread who suggested that mods were somehow 'supporting' the testosterone view) most of those posts *were* removed, leaving the impression that Nicola didn't want a discussion so much as a lecture on her thoughts. We're still waiting, by teh way, for her reply to several posters asking what her position would be if she knew that they'd felt intimidated by her postings :wink:

God, you can't even post a good deal without SJW's stepping in now can you?

I would agree those posts you've highlighted gestr are getting tedious

In the western world anyway it wont be a million years before the male is no longer needed

which I'm sure will satisfy nichola quite a lot :wink:

I see your point:






I'm not saying any of those posts/'jokes' are intrinsically wrong, but if you're going to make an appeal to the argument that this is just a deals website, then you should object to these too.

A good thing you avoided the "fairly extreme reaction" trap eh?

Perhaps she feels intimidated when people accuse her of having a 'hissy fit', or banging on/shrieking, or being 'extreme', telling her she should never engage in conversation with anyone or perhaps a fun comparison with Hitler? I do hope you'll be as 'polite' when you reply to me.

Anyway, its an interesting post you've made. I like the fact you think that a room full of masturbating teenagers is the same as an online thread. Public vs Private is obviously a distinction that is lost on you.

I do hope you clean your web history frequently, because actually not all pornography is legal. I also can't remember nicola arguing about pornography (unless, of course, you think this thread is pornographic, which again, unintentionally validates her argument), but its nice to know your thoughts on the matter.

I actually agree that she shouldn't make out people to be Neanderthals or whatever and phrases such as the 'boy's club' aren't particularly helpful. But just because she might not be perfect (who is?), doesn't make her query invalid (this would be a logical fallacy, a tu quoque - I might kill kittens, but I could still correctly assert that killing kittens is wrong).

Your vegetarian comparison would only really make sense if you were a carrot with feelings and you felt offended because people kept depicting you as an item only for consumption, rather than engaging with you on the deeper level as a carrot you so richly observed. Its not the same.

You also suggest that instead of preaching you just don't read certain things. That's an interesting claim given your proscriptive post.

Essentially, Nicola made a valid (not necessarily right or wrong) point. It could have been made better, but so could most points in this world. If you disagree (which would not be unreasonable) then there are nicer ways of doing so.

As an addendum, and this is just because the power of language interests me, 'hissy fit' is a pretty sexist term. It is by in large (throughout history) only used with regards to women, and likely comes from hysteria and its pre-19th century meaning whereby it referred to the idea that women suffered from psychological disorders emanating from their uterus! I know that isn't how you were using the phrase, but the residual effects of this association still exist, and probably should be avoided when in a debate!. I think psychologists have moved on from the term as a result, but in general parlance its still far more frequently used to describe women, or as a means of emasculating men.

My goodness.

Go live in Pakistan or Saudi and see for yourself what sexual repression is actually all about

There lays the crux the problem, there is only one person here constantly generalizing and stereotyping.
If comments were thoughtful, balanced and didn't come across as men disgust me, you would get a lot more sympathy and understanding

Not that this is the place for it mind you, it's a deals website

So what *would* you do if you 'walked into a room of spotty teenage boys looking at porn'? Throw a hissy fit similar to what you've done in this thread, scream for support from a moderator, bang on incessantly about how they've demeaned you? Or would you withdraw and make a mental note to be cautious about throwing open a closed door with giggling boys behind it in future? A bit like 'as a woman who has fairly extreme reactions to seeing things she doesn't like, perhaps I'll not read a thread about lingerie', maybe? Of course, you *do* know that pornography isn't illegal, that lots of people of *both* sexes enjoy it, and that teenage boys have their needs and desires too, just the same as how middle aged women have needs that are satisfied by some of the 'toys' this store sells?
Yeah, you've used that word a lot. I do hope you'll not be offended by my saying that, on balance, I don't actually believe it. I can't conceive how it's 'intimidating' to read fairly innocuous innuendo about another woman. I can see from your posts though that you're a person given to reaching for the vapours at the first sign of boorishness (please, never visit a live comedy show, or see a teen movie, or... hell, let's just say you probably should never engage in conversation with anyone at all, ever, in case they accidentally trigger off your 'intimidation reflex').
See, there we go again. In the same paragraph, you're saying how wrong it is that others might 'make you out' to be boring or prudish or whatever and simultaneously referring to those people as Neanderthals. You can't have it both ways - either 'slagging people off' is acceptable in both directions, or it isn't (for the record, I'll go with 'it isn't'). As for having people send you PM's supporting you, people supported Hitler too you know. Just having someone agree with your point of view doesn't make it right.
I'm a vegetarian. Threads about meat deals don't interest me, so I don't click on them to be honest. When I come across posts talking about eating animals, I don't rave about it, I just move on. Even if I'm offended (note the word offended there - I think you might confuse that word with 'intimidated') I don't feel I have a right to preach, I just don't read it. More interestingly, I've noted that you've *not* replied to several questions asking you how you would feel if you were told that others found *your* posts 'intimidating', which I have to say I'd love to know the answer to.

Now, I've been very polite, and used no language that even the most sensitive being could get the wobblies about. I've seen that mods have removed lots of posts in this thread already, but I would hope that if your post is permitted, my rebuttal of it should be similarly treated. On the other hand, I'm not going to run to a mod and shriek that I want your post removed, so we'll see, eh?

thank you, looks like it is better to wait for these lidl cucumber deals, they come on all shapes and sizes and they are also fresh and cheaper

For the record I don't have a problem with Ann Summers. I don't have a problem with the images on that site. What I DO have a problem with its clicking into this thread and seeing the crass comments about the images. Like I've just walked into a room of spotty teenage boys looking a porn. It's not very nice and its intimidating. Take what you want and sl*g me off, make me out to be old, ugly, boring, prudish, jealous whatever. it just shows me that not only do you behave like lecherous Neanderthals but you aren't interested in the effect of that behaviour on others. It's not just me either, I have 3 PMs from other women saying good for me to standing up to you all and they are agree with me but feel to intimated by the abuse they'd face for saying so on this thread. How does that make you feel? Proud? Amused? Not for one minute will you consider what I have said though. you'll simple look for parts of this posts to demean or ridicule to get likes from other members of your boys club.

For those of you that said I shouldn't click on the thread if I knew what I'd find. I didn't know I'd find sexual innuendos, comments about how you'd do her or how she gets you going etc etc. It's frankly disgusting to witness. I've said before none of my male friends would behave like that in front of women. Would you in real life talk like that?

I`m Voting this as Most Entertaining Deal & Thread of the Month, a Fantastic read really enjoyed it.!! BRILLIANT.. Note to Self .. Must get involved next time. Should be a prize for must Fun & Entertaining Deal each Month :smiley:

Personally, as a man, I think this is a lot like the Cecil Rhodes discussion. Whether its right or wrong to take it down, it is stranger to think that it is somehow ridiculous to ask the question. Although I disagree with the way the argument was brought forward, the amount of visceral replies tells a bigger story - as is often the case in such matters.

Some of the arguments used against such a complaint have been ludicrous too. For example the incredulity that a woman would click on a link for women's clothing....

how do I verify what size toy do I need??

Mmmmmmm, fishy goodness

Thx OP, heated

xx

So you're happy with the concept of a shop that sells items intended to 'objectify'* women, but don't like when people use images from their site to do just that?

*Hint - a hell of a lot of BOTH sexes enjoy others seeing them as desirable 'objects', this is why shops like this do well.

If I said your post made ME feel uncomfortable, would you restrain from posting them, or would you consider that you posting YOUR opinions was just fine and it's just other's that aren't allowed to do that?

OK. I finally caught up with this thread now.


I don't know why, but I feel like I've seen this petticoat worn by someone before. sadly I can't remember :disappointed:


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My 2 cents, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. OP likes marmite, other men like ogling at women, nicola hates people who do and I like a drama free board.
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EDIT: effin hell. I didn't realise that this was a 3 day old thread.

Not objectified, just excluded. No matter how hard i try i just can't find a use for a menstrual cup.
Know what i did about that deal? Absolutely nothing.
Certainly didn't click on (knowing i already had no interest in the post) and start spouting negativity. Wouldn't that just be silly?

I liked you until the marmite bit.

heh just kidding. :stuck_out_tongue:

Whilst this is obviously a deal for adults and sexual comments are to be expected, I do find that sometimes people forget the audience (possibly anyone who is able to able to browse the Internet, young or old) and make quite crass remarks. The line can be drawn in different places, depending on people's experiences, and that's why I prefer to post with some measure of reserve. This means I wouldn't repeat here the comments that I could make when speaking with friends. That's my own judgement. Regardless, people will be offended and people will be offended that others were offended. That's all fine and can even generate a healthy debate where new knowledge is taken in, but it goes sour when insults are slung about. So please, make your opinion heard all you want, learn new things and reconsider your points, but always with civility!
Btw, this is a freakin' good deal!

These threads always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, always, without doubt, churn out the most predictable, polar opposite, cliche nonsense posts.

It's clothing to provide titillation to consenting adults, You knew what it was before you clicked on the link. Hairy arsed commedians, we've heard it sooo many times before... whilst you're creasing yourself, chortling at that 'original' fun-grenade that you've lobbed into the forum, its all been done a thousand times before... theres only so many times you can 'buy it for your mum' etc. The flip of the coin is the tedious feminists who, as i said know exactly what to expect, so unfortunately you have no grounds to be offended or feel objectified.

The only offensive thing in these threads is the unoriginality

I suggest you go knit or watch Downton Abbey or some other repressed/relaxing nonsense

For me, the images aren't the problem - it's the "wahey lads" mentality of the comments. Truly pathetic.

They probably read them, reread them and read them once again for maximum effect.

Don't worry....it doesn't exclude all women.......just the mooses.
:man:

Can we get back to the photos

​Generalisation of white van drivers and building site workers there !

There are many things wrong with your post. But what concerns me most is how a deal for a menstrual cup would make you feel objectified.

So much hostility to me as a woman for giving my opinion of how this thread made me feel. Not one of you in your boys club is prepared to consider what I said. You're so quick to defend yourself. Fact is seeing post pictures like that and make comment after comment on how you'd like to give her one makes me feel really uncomfortable. I have never been around that situation in real life, I don't think anyone would behave like that in front of others. It would make me feel uncomfortable and threatened in real life.

Not one of you will consider this. You will be too quick to defend yourself or dismiss me as a feminist (such a dirty word isn't it? It means equality. How dare we). So carry on. Do what makes you happy.

Don't worry about it, he's probably seen a lot worse than this!! :smiley:

This thread is a joke... and for once, I'm not involved!!! yeaay :smiley: All I can say is that some people have very sad lives and seem to exist to cause problems. ANYONE who is offended should just click on the "close" button (or perhaps not click on such links in the first place?), I see plenty of sexual media on TV during the watershed and even in shopping centres... M&S mannequins can be very risqué!!. Yet I have never once felt the inclination to find a manager and have a moan..... yet a few pic of a woman WHO HAS BEEN PAID to pose in her knick-knacks cause all this crap?!? :smiley:

Helloooooooooooooooooooooo

Women, if you don't want to be regarded as sex objects then stop using sex for your own agendas when it suits you.

Can we just stick to the deal please, if you want to have a general discussion then Misc is the place.
This thread is starting to get reported, so remember the code of conduct please.

to be honest, this posting of women wearing next to nothing inside a thread,which already has a clickable link taking you to a website that you can see the items and women, is used in a cheap way to get heat imho.im as much a fan of women in lingerie as the next guy.but the pics inside the link only serve the purpose to increase votes imho.

Wow, seems to almost be fashionable for people to become sensitive. This feminist nonsense has to stop.

People getting 'offended' at lingerie images? Wow, I suggest you get off the Internet, lock your doors and close the curtains, because sex sells, whether it's men or women.

I don't hear women calling it an outrage at some ripped dude taking a swig of diet coke wearing nothing? But oh my God, how dare you post a deal on a deal site with images of said items in the deal.

As for whoever said they're glad it was a woman who posted the deal, why in earth should it matter? Ffs, can't believe people even spout such nonsense.
Some people need to just get out more.

Any free delivery codes? Don't wanna spend £35+ to get free delivery, it's normally £25 for free delivery but I see they have increased the amount for this offer!

Can't woman do this as well?

loving the banter guys lol

Got to agree, the double standards are a bit hypocritical, some of the comments and things that are said to me on a daily basis by my female work colleagues would make the most liberal person blush, but that's ok.
Thing is it doesn't bother me in the slightest....however....if the situation was reversed....????

Great stuff. Well done. Heat for the deal. Thanks OP. Some nice items, beautiful models, good prices

Yes I am, thank you.

I don't agree but you are welcome to your opinion

It is their own account, no overdraft. Teaches them about money management I think. I trust my kids but I do keep an eye on what is arriving!

I haven't been able to read through all the posts because there's a load of nonsense spouted as usual - just like the Lovehoney one recently.

Rebekah Brooks is a woman but she carried on having Page 3 when she took over as editor of The Sun. So, to the person using the fact that the owner of Ann Summers is a woman holds no weight. It makes no sense. A load of laddish behaviour and drooling and saying you want to tilt the screen is pathetic. Truly embarrassing and your behaviour doesn't represent me or all men. Likewise, Brooks and the Ann Summers owner do not represent all women.

I can't find marmite on the Anne Summers website....?? ?

Right, exactly, but for that, they should have a basic cash card only for the account, because with a debit card, they can buy all sorts of stuff online that they shouldn't have access to, can't they? Obviously, it would show up on the account and you get the statements, but some stuff isn't explicitly gonna be specified, so it might not ring alarm bells, and I doubt all parents check EVERY purchase on the statement EVERY single month. Am I incorrect or is this not a massive loophole that kids can do a lot of damage with?
On a separate but linked subject, at least children can't get overdrafts, right? So parents can have closer control over their offsprings' spending?

I'm confused. So what about women who like to look at women in underwear? Are they objectifying themselves and other women?

What's so bad about finding people attractive anyway? Why do a large number of women use sexuality as a way of getting what they want or getting money/power if they don't want to be looked at that way.

I do love it when someone comes along with one viewpoint, few buzz words and thinks they represent an entire gender with their beliefs.

Here's a novel suggestion nicolax3. Maybe just maybe your view isn't representative and you are just wrong and out of order and perhaps pointing this out to you doesn't make one oppressive or sexist?

Kids can get debit cards at eleven now, my son has one for his own account but it's more for getting his money out than buying stuff online.

Huh! Have things have changed since I opened my first bank account in the 90s? I got one when I was 14 - I guess younger people could open a bank account too, but they only give you a cash card at that age, surely? That's all they would give me till I was older (can't recall if it was age-dependent or a question of establishing trust though)...
I'm not doubting you, I just don't get how that works - is this their own account, or are they debit cards linked to your own account?

Don't let that stop you. Plenty of people like tuna.

I agree with most of that but my 11 and 13 year old daughters have debit cards on their accounts. Stuff from Amazon arriving all the time, not Ann summers thankfully!

Done :stuck_out_tongue:

I have to wonder why you feel the need to make that comment. The pictures are publicly accessible catalog pictures of the products being referenced in the deal. The same store has a visible presence on the high street and in shopping centres with the same items in clear windows. Posting the pictures is totally justifiable and by objecting you totally undermine your more legitimate complaint about the type of comments made later. I tend to agree that you probably saw this as an opportunity to have a go though rather that accidentally stumbling upon the comments which you find offensive which again reduces your chances of being heeded. Has you started along the lines of 'tone down the comments, this is a family site' rather than the grow up and stop posting pictures, you would have probably had more support.

I'm not justifying deeky, I'm even handed, if a deal for male posing pouches came up, I'd post it cos the ethos of hukd is all about saving people money, there is not one photo that I have posted that I wouldn't wear if a) it fitted & b) didn't make me look like a ton of tuna trying to escape a fishing net, sadly Ann Summers have some lovely stuff, but as yet they can't perform miracles :smile: Now I shall leave you all with that amazing image, that should cool some ardour :laughing:

I'd like to give this reply a "Like", but I cannot endorse incorrect use of apostrophes. Please correct at your earliest convenience to receive plaudit.

Tbh, I'm not sure why you even try to justify posting the deal. It's currently at over 500 degrees which tells you all you need to know.

Nichola will know the answer !

ah good point , I hadn't realised they didn't sell it

blatant female objectification
youll need to post up male shots of similar

You're living dangerously/going in at the deep end again :smiley:

I thought there would be a queue her bottom is rarely seen but photos on eBay of it looks supurb

Doesn't taking 20% off sex toys make them shorter?

:confused: Nothing wrong with marmite, you haven't lived until you've had, banana, bacon & marmite baguettes :smile:

Get.
In.
The.
Queue.
LG.

Apologies for the full stops. I saw someone else do it once and I thought, hey, he's cool.

You know, you really do need to burn those bra's somewhere else. The only person "objectifying" anything around here is clearly you. Your "exclusion" certainly isn't evident. 10 hours you've managed to bang the drum. Back in the real world most other "less sensitive" and balanced individuals saw the title then made a decision to took at the thread or not, perhaps even (burn them at the stake) clicked on the link. Moved on and probably forgot all about it 2 minutes later. Your own issues are not everyone elses!

Frankly, you disgust me.

:wink:

Is there any chance anyone on this thread could point me to the office where women will slap my bum after I make them a cup of tea?

I will need to know where it is and when I can pop over, so that I am able to book the right week off work.

Thanks in advance.

My jokes always are :smiley:

Disgusting.

I remember Ann Summers from years ago at school, she hasn't changed at all, my friend says thats why she smells

not bad :wink:

You're all wrong. As an alien I feel deeply offended that Ann summers don't accommodate for my genitalia. That's the real issue here. #VoteForAlienRights

Great stuff folks! Love a Hukd lingerie thread - like Groundhog Day, the script / jokes always stay the same...

Sounds like a yeast addiction to me. :man:

In all honesty I couldn't give two hoots if the women in the office are being lewd and saying risqué stuff....I'm all for free speech and having a laugh. But it has turned completely round. If the women do it they are just having a laugh...if men do it they are lecherous perverts.

It's the double standards that gets a bit annoying.

A bit like when women talking about men say "men are bloody useless" and it's just a bit of fun...but then if we say 'women are useless' we are sexist pigs.

Men go to see a stripper and they are disgusting perverts...but women go to see the chippendales and it's "just a laugh..bit of fun"

Men watch porn and they are monsters...women do it and use battery operated instruments and it's just a woman's 'needs'

Now do you see why men are getting fed up with the double standards?

Ruth Langsford mmmmmmmm

Are there any more pictures?

Nicola, I apologise as a man for having made you feel objectified. We men have a rather binary vision at times and the wiring of the need to procreate is a powerful thing. It means we sometimes don't think of the effect on others that casual comments can have. But I would like to think we men are on the whole generally improving here in the UK and would hope one day that all women including my daughters would feel safe and unintimidated by us menfolk. My hope is you don't think all men behave similarly, most of us would be horrified to think we had upset someone by something we said. Keep up the good work of pointing this out to us, but please don't hate us and maybe try to find a good way to do it by good humour so we learn better.

No you're right I don't. I don't think that's right or fair that you should feel that way. Do you actually feel subject to sexism then? In my experience men only bring it up in debates like this. I've never heard a man complain about feeling objectified. It is of course as valid it a man feels this as much as if a woman does. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Turning it around then....YOU don't know what it's like growing up as a man.

YOU don't know what it's like to be in fear for your job by saying the wrong thing and some woman taking offence..whilst having to subjected to sexism against men ourselves day after day and it just being 'a bit of fun'.

You don't seem to be able to understand that objectification happens to both genders. When I said 'times have changed', I was referring to the fact that men are objectified just as much as women now, where as in the past they were not. You seem to be viewing this as a female only problem, evidenced by your above comments.

​Glad was a woman that posted, just a pity it was hijacked by some self opiniated/self absorbed juvenile boys although looking back at similar previous posts seems like this is unfortunately to be expected

Some people just like being upset, that said the comment a few above is what a sexist might say
The wife said she is disappointed if she doesn't get wolf whistled (although embarrassed when she is)

As to the deal - heat added, thanks OP

......trying to remember what the main song from the film Frozen is.........it escapes me..............anyone?

Was going to reply, but Coney raised pretty much what I was going to say.

It may have been different in your past, but times have changed.

Really? That generalisation is nonsense. You don't think men have never had their bum slapped, or been objectified, whistled, called out to? That's the thing, it happens, but you all think we like it, because we're men.
You've made some points, valid too, but you've also made yourself look overly angry.

And please feel free to post the pics of the men from the site, there are scantily clad pics of guys on there.

The people you should be educating are the female models who are happyily being victimised for huge pay packets, all to please us guys, oh wait!

And the same could be said for anyone. As you have been a member of this site for about 5 years viewing nearly 6500 deals you knew what some people do with these posts. You had the same option as anyone else. If the deal bothers you the don't open it move on to the next one. Personally I feel the real strength lies with the models. If certain individuals rely on it for their jollies then they are the sad ones. The models decide for themselves if they want to do this type of work. If they do then good on them, if they don't then again good on them. Individual choice.

Well here's the thing. You, as a man, don't know what it's like growing up a woman and being a woman. So you may feel feminism and equality is outdated. You don't have and haven't had the same experiences as myself. You don't know what it's like to be presented with the idea that your only worth is based on how you look or how attractive men find you. You don't know what it's like to feel threatened walking past a building site because men will start commenting on how you look that day, either positively or negatively. You don't know how it feels to feel a sense of fear and dread when you see a white van, fearing the judgements on your appearance that are going to be offered to you about your appearance whether you like it or not.

This is why I take issue with women being objectified - I have been subject to it all my life.

Do you really feel the pictures were that sexual though? They are the product pictures used to advertise the products, one of them was purely the product with no model at all.

The comments that followed seemed to mostly reflect on the poor censoring job on one of the models nipples, but I agree some of them were of a sexual nature... unfortunately there is no way to prevent that, particularly on deals of this nature. You came to look at the deal, so clearly understand the products that are being sold. Maybe in future you need to exercise caution when clicking to open posts?

I do feel in this day and age, raising the issues of feminism and equality is a little outdated. Just because the media has made it acceptable to objectify men, doesn't make it any different to when men are accused of objectifying women.

There's plenty wrong in our society - but this isn't it! When we get 'Men's Hour' on the radio I'll start to believe that us poor, downtrodden males are starting to approach equality.

I didn't click the thread to preach. I clicked the thread to see what deals there were. I was then dismayed/disappointed to see people using it as an opportunity to post sexual pictures of women from the site and talk about them sexually. I got angry yes because I think its inappropriate to behave like that on a site where people are all ages, all sexes. It made me feel uncomfortable, and I wasn't the only one. Someone PMed me saying well done for stating my opinion, they were too intimidated to do so as well.

Half my friends on facebook are femail and they regularly post images of Fireman, David Beckham etc etc and make sexual comments but its all just a bit of fun. It doesnt offend me as a man and I don't go crying into my cornflakes.
Please chillax

Ok thread tidied. If you wish to carry on the debate then please use the misc section of the site but no more back and forth arguing/derailing the thread.

Thanks.

I agree. I have no issue with the shop. I admire Jacqueline Gold and her determination against all the odds to open a sex shop for women. I've seen her doing talks before of the battles she had to win to get them open.

I'm the OP, I am a woman, personally I feel empowered that in today's society I can openly go into a shop on the high street, buy nice lingerie and anything else that takes my fancy without feeling "grubby" in some back street blacked out window shop. If you visit Ann Summers on any day of the week, it's full of women. I post the deals for people like myself who live in remote areas or for those who still find it difficult to walk through those doors & I will continue to post them as it's like anything in life, horses for courses and all that, I love marmite!! :smiley:

*******hope one of moderator is revewing threads as feel some comments especially syst3mzero need removing ********

​Whilst agree this is a deal site. Unsure of motives or gender of person who posted. Hope it was a woman although suspect given how these posts end up going it was a man. Bring a man agree with Nicola , but disappointed with some comments which clearly from men don't exactly portray themselves in favourable light. Although suspect some of postees are probably boys still going through puberty like loughroughboy .

I'm alive and kinky

Here for pics. No other reason.

OK I've read it all now, seriously this shop is run by a women, full of women shopping in it. So take it up with your sisters!

wheyhay! I haven't read all the nonsense, more photos thx

Well.... that escalated quickly.

Lovely photos

Or maybe you were after one of those devices that objectifies men's genitalia?

There's a long way between a "pat on the bum" and images of women in lingerie. There really is.

I bet you, like many women I know - some staunch feminists, some not - got excited about Aiden Turner in Poldark or indeed any other "hot guy" who appears stripped down on tv or in a magazine? Go on, admit it. Just a bit?

Out of interest, what made you click through on the Ann Summers listing anyway? What were you expecting to see given that the deal was Lingerie from Ann Summers? Or was it just "research"? Or were you wanting to update your lingerie collection?

Dont worry be happy :smirk:

Can you buy the girls as well as the lingerie? :laughing:

its not the lingerie its good looking models upset men and women
most of these models are on drugs so if ur Mrs doesn't look like this u should be proud :smiley:

You've missed the point entirely.

This site is for posting deals. This is a lingerie deal. Posting images of the products you can buy isn't bad, is it? If you're upset about the fact they are lingerie images, then you have a huge mountain to climb. Click the "Get Deal" link and brace yourself.

And to counter this "men" argument. The CEO of Ann Summers is a woman.

Ok so as long as you're fine with how these images objectify and exclude women then I just learn to "not get upset"? Reminds me of the 60s when men would pat their secretary on the bum and think nothing of it. When women were to complain that how that made them feel, they were told not to get upset about it. Basically it's not up to women how they are treated. It's up to men.

I have no say in how the media portray women but I make sure when I can make a difference I do. If that's by commenting on a thread then so be it. Maybe you'll realise the effect constant sexualising/objectifying women can have on women.

That's not what I said...

Oh I see. So because they're doing it that makes it ok?

2017 mothers day sorted already!

Ooh a sale. Thanks OP. Heat added :smiley:

Mot mot mot :man:

​Points outta 2, id give her one

​Does it have to be a real doctor ?

Meanwhile, the girl in pink's nipples appeared to have dropped off.

Looking at the girl in the first pictures nippples, I really think she needs to see a doctor.

Nice start to the day......glory in the morning.

:man: