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gazz33
29 Feb 16
Seems to be the cheapest, Fantastic entertainment system for video, games, music, pictures, apps.

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The Android X4+ has the new and improved S905 chipset alongside a 64-bit CPU provides faster app load times and overall smoother. Performance is up to 50% faster than older S805 chipset, which also means better 3D graphic processing capabilities.

The Android X4+ media player is compatible with 4K media files giving you full 4K resolution videos with ultra high quality crisp image and video quality.
The Android X4+ comes with the latest KODI media centre. Watch your favourite films or perhaps listen to great tunes from your external media. You can download hundreds of add ons available online to further enhance your KODI media centre.

The Android X4+ measures just 17mm tall and 90mm wide, making it the smallest Android media player in the Cyclone Android X4 series. This new small and simple design will look good in any home or environment.
Thanks to the built in Bluetooth 4.0 technology, you can expand your entertainment by adding additional devices such as speakers, headphones, keyboards and many other Bluetooth devices to this media player.

Android 5.1.1 provides a new user interface that makes Android easier to operate than ever before! There are millions of apps and games available for you to download - meaning you can expand your media player with an infinite amount of possibilities.

Specifications
CPU: Amlogic S905 Quad core Cortex A53 64bit 2.0Ghz
GPU: Penta-core Malix-450 GPU @750Mhz
RAM: 1GB DDR 3
Storage: 8GB
Micro SD: Up to 32GB
Input: 2 x USB port, 1 X micro SD/SDHC, 1 x AV, 1 x RJ45, 1 x SPDIF
Wi-Fi: Built in 2.4G Wi-Fi
LAN: Rj45/ Ethernet 10/100
Video output: HDMI 2.0 up to 4K, 1080p
Bluetooth: 4.0
Android: 5.1.1 Lollipop

What's included
1 x Media player
1 x Remote control
1 x HDMI cable
1 x Quick start guide
2 x AAA batteries
Top comments
fairytooth
29 Feb 16 14 #3
Helpful advice, thanks.

Bluetooth v RAM, eh? great trade off :smirk:
AndyRoyd to VeedubyaGTi
1 Mar 16 4 #10
Not really comparable as M8S uses previous generation S805 / S812 chips & has less featureset than provided by OP that has latest-gen S905. Also not aware of any M8S that has 10bit x265 capability unlike all S905, regardless of RAM.
brookysm to fairytooth
2 Mar 16 3 #21
I wouldn't hold your breath...

Get ya hand in your pocket ya tight git or you'll be waiting forever!
VeedubyaGTi
1 Mar 16 3 #11
​Good point, but why have the latest cpu and not enough ram to run smoothly anyway? Makes no sense to me personally.
Latest comments (54)
sockit2em
21 Mar 16 #53
thanks for posting this, ordered it and it works like a dream, plays every 4k file I've tried (something my 4k tv struggled with)
gazz33 to sockit2em
21 Mar 16 #54
you are welcome :smiley:
mikeypr
12 Mar 16 #51
What are the chances if this getting the MM update?
AndyRoyd to mikeypr
12 Mar 16 #52
Unlikely if (non)development of firmware for this box is comparable to the zero development for the earlier X4 box http://www.sumvision.com/product/cyclone-androidx4/x4support.html
ShuggieH
10 Mar 16 #49
Thanks for the reply. My local stockist has them for £36 just now but is OOS. I'll pick one up next week as the way you're using is exactly what I'm needing.

Thanks again.
AndyRoyd to ShuggieH
12 Mar 16 #50
£36 seems decent for this specific Sumvision model. If considering the original £40 price, it would be difficult not to justify the additional £4-5 for increased spec inc 2GB RAM via http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182047649140 or 2GB RAM 16GB storage http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182050132367
mattukdeals
10 Mar 16 #48
I've actually just replaced my MX3 with one of these. The MX3 had double the ram than this, which made me hesitant but it really doesn't seem to suffer from it, the faster processor and the change to Android 5.1 mean it still performs a lot better than the one it replaced. Played some 4k from local media and streamed 1080p (over a wired network, ethernet over powerline), with no issues at all. I'd definitely get another.
ShuggieH
8 Mar 16 #47
I'm pretty interested in buying one of these - can anyone who has one comment if they're actually any good or not? :smirk:

Any info much appreciated.
aclo
6 Mar 16 #45
Do these output at 24fps?
fatdeeman to aclo
7 Mar 16 #46
It should do but it depends if it has the right firmware etc. The hardware has been capable of it for a long time it but there's been a big issue with the OS not being optimized for the hardware, it's been a weakness of android boxes for a long time, even the fire tv and stick. More and more android devices are capable out of the box as time goes on though. The only way to know for sure is if someone owns one and reports about it. The problem is you can have two different devices with the same hardware and only one will support 24p.
gabs777
4 Mar 16 #44
​I got it purely for retro emulation so am very happy, runs Kodi very well too
fatdeeman
4 Mar 16 #43
I think it is/was being down converted back to 8bit at least until recently. Sometimes you can't even tell especially if the tv has an 8 but panel. I know ffmpeg just got support for 10bit hevc and the windows version now supports 10 bit, not sure about android. Maybe it's recently been enabled?

Some box makers produce device specific versions of Kodi too which helps. The right firmware and software can make a big difference.

The underlying chipset is no doubt excellent and some of the boxes are ridiculously cheap and a better choice than the fire tv. It's just a matter of getting one that takes advantage of it's own power.

I still use a linx tablet with hdmi output for Kodi currently because I only watch 1080p x264 stuff but when I move to 4k it will most probably be an Android box.
AndyRoyd
4 Mar 16 #42
Purely observational and not argumentative: I have not experienced any issue with Kodi flawlessly playing 10bit HEVC on S905-based Android. It is now my preferred player of local media since my former favourite MXplayer struggles with 10bit.
fatdeeman
3 Mar 16 #41
Be wary of some of these cheaper boxes. The underlying hardware is very good but a lot of the time the firmware they come with isn't even optimised for the hardware. It's not uncommon for major hardware features to be totally inaccessible with boxes advertised as 4k being incapable of actually outputting 4k video. It's also common for 24p support to be absent, not because the underlaying hardware doesn't support it but because the firmware is not tailored to the hardware. It's worth noting that Kodi doesn't currently support 10 bit hevc either.
tan159
2 Mar 16 #40
I have been thinking about buying an android box for about a year but toooooo many opinions leave me nowhere.

I need it for kodi mainly but also browsing is required ( I like a few tabs open at the same time), emails etc.

Am I right in thinking that I need 2gb ram? Any phone with 1gb ram/ 8gb ROM is a bit laggy when browsing with a few tabs open
wackyraces
2 Mar 16 #39
I bought a Ki Plus android box for £30. No Bluetooth but has played all the media files I have available on it. Quite a speedy interface on it as well. Also get OTA updates as it's a common android box.
thelegendofmart
2 Mar 16 #26
I've got the Beelink MiniMX which uses same chip and it plays everything I throw at it. Twitch and Youtube Android TV apps are great and Kodi flies on this box. I play back 4K 10bit x265 files and it doesn't even break a sweat.
tvlovesme to thelegendofmart
2 Mar 16 #38
​+1 for the minimx box. was almost put off by forums worried about s905 and kodi compatibility. so far it works fine with all add ons.
I only download the essential apps and keep my kodi build light so 1gb copes perfectly.
markkeenan
2 Mar 16 #37
Have a look at this: http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_282313.html

great bit of kit, have had it for a few weeks now and its superb.
AndyRoyd
2 Mar 16 #36
As previously mentioned: I have yet to use an S905-based box (as OP) that was unable to smoothly play HEVC and 10bit HEVC from local source.
micksey
2 Mar 16 #35
not bad at the price
fairytooth
29 Feb 16 2 #6
I agree, it looks ok for the price. But I have tried a few other so-called 4k boxes (with more RAM) which aren't so great. I have a 4k LG TV which streams the 4k content from Amazon/Netflix but stupidly won't handle the HEVC-265 codec direct from a file - moronic! So I want a box that can simply do that. Not much to ask really? The Amazon Fire 4k can do it well enough but at £70 I'll wait until LG get their lame ass fingers out and do a firmware upgrade one day (yawn)
AndyRoyd to fairytooth
1 Mar 16 1 #7
All of the S905-based boxes I have used have handled local x265 without issue via Kodi (16), inc 10-bit x265. MXplayer was my previous preferred local file player but it struggles with 10bit x265, hence now use Kodi. One of the cheapest S905 boxes is around £27 delivered ex-UK. OP item seems decent price for usual s905 spec with known branding.
brookysm to fairytooth
2 Mar 16 3 #21
I wouldn't hold your breath...

Get ya hand in your pocket ya tight git or you'll be waiting forever!
maxcovergold to fairytooth
2 Mar 16 #34
Dito. Really annoying that they don't pay HEVC, would like to condense my library and bandwidth.
sully01
2 Mar 16 #33
.............
WheresMeNuts
2 Mar 16 1 #32
99% of Kodi streams that boast HD can't get HD. I've run these boxes on 50" & 2x 42" & no problems at all.You should always delete Kodi on any media box you buy & add it yourself with your own build,that way you get rid of unwanted dead link/apps.
gap30
2 Mar 16 #23
The m8s I bought which was highly recommended on hotukdeals

Bricked it about 20 times

Can't install twrp

Need USB burning tool and shorting pins out to unbrick

Ap6330 or bcm4335 firmware god knows

Do your homework before you buy for a little bit more you can get a properly supported box

Sorry to sound like a git
WheresMeNuts to gap30
2 Mar 16 #25
The M8s have a heating issue & the Xsbox S805 will not let you down.
rev6 to gap30
2 Mar 16 #31
The box is well supported as far as I know. Congratulations on bricking it by accident. That's a feat :stuck_out_tongue:
id10t
2 Mar 16 #30
I have one of these and it's been a huge disappointment. On paper the hardware specs should make the box very capable but the software stack let's it down.

Using wired or wifi...
YouTube doesn't seem to stream higher than 240p. BBC iplayer is pixelated, skips and had sound sync issues. nowtv complains about an unsupported device. netflix works but seems to be low res only. plex too was hitting buffering/resolution problems.

I have an old nowtv, new nowtv and a roku3, and they are all pretty perfect under the same network conditions.

kodi has been pretty frustrating too. I don't think I managed to watch a single thing without buffering probs, timeouts or no working sources.

I don't why the experience is so poor compared to what the hardware should be capable of.
levyveress
2 Mar 16 #29
Only if it be dual band (wifi) as I use Virgin media. I was looking to buy m8s although got a couple of negative comments not to sure what to get? Any help pls? Thx
optimusprime987
2 Mar 16 #28
Best apps for sports on kodi?
gazz33
2 Mar 16 #27
Says in one review on Amazon for S805 lot of apps (probably more than a half) from the App Store will not work on it, 1080p rendering is not good at all. The picture quality from its Netflix, YouTube, etc applications is nowhere near HD, Very few options managing display/picture resolution, etc, All apps look on 55-inch TV as on a giant cellphone, no way to scale
WheresMeNuts
2 Mar 16 1 #24
I'm confused as to how you can compare bluetooth with ram as both do different jobs,or am I missing something ?

Xsbox S805 runs Kodi very well.
I have 3 of them & no problems at all.Also almost £10 cheaper than this.
ah_heng
2 Mar 16 #22
Where to get that many 4k content to watch???
Bendown
2 Mar 16 #20
Yes great bx, nee to get some decent games for it though without paying £7.99 per month
kingpiinx
1 Mar 16 3 #9
i tried 3 of these cheaper boxes but eventually got the Nvidia Shield Tv ... soooooooo much better and worth the extra
gabs777 to kingpiinx
2 Mar 16 #19
mikeypr
2 Mar 16 #15
What would be the best way to play H265 on my TV?
I have the fire tv box, and Roku 3 both the vanilla and Sky crippled one.

Thanks

Mike
rev6 to mikeypr
2 Mar 16 1 #18
Buy and use this.
montana78
2 Mar 16 1 #17
I love my wdtv too much. But it's about time they release a new version which does 4k and has better interface.
friiza
2 Mar 16 #16
40gb is not "infinite"
Heat tho
cjhilton49
1 Mar 16 #13
Does this box draw its power via USB port off the TV or PC,or will it need a power supply which doesn't appear to be included? I noticed that the item in post *7 does have a have one supplied,help appreciated.
AndyRoyd to cjhilton49
1 Mar 16 #14
Wall PSU is provided in Sumvision retail box. Believe the wall PSU is rated at 2amps output; it is highly unlikely that a reliable and capable power source could be obtained from any USB data socket.
AndyRoyd
1 Mar 16 #12
I believe one of the greatest challenges to these boxes is 10bit x265 playback, for which my generic S905-based box with 1GB RAM is flawless. I don't feel the need to match the 2GB RAM of my S812 box. I assume another demanding application may be gaming, but I can't comment about any potential benefit of 2GB on an S905 for gaming cos I don't use any Android box for games.
VeedubyaGTi
1 Mar 16 3 #11
​Good point, but why have the latest cpu and not enough ram to run smoothly anyway? Makes no sense to me personally.
VeedubyaGTi
1 Mar 16 3 #8
Cheaper M8s box has 2Gb ram, runs perfect too, sorry no deal here, cold.
AndyRoyd to VeedubyaGTi
1 Mar 16 4 #10
Not really comparable as M8S uses previous generation S805 / S812 chips & has less featureset than provided by OP that has latest-gen S905. Also not aware of any M8S that has 10bit x265 capability unlike all S905, regardless of RAM.
sully01
29 Feb 16 #5
.,...,.,.........
fairytooth
29 Feb 16 1 #1
IGb RAM doesn't seem very high spec for 4k
jihadijulz to fairytooth
29 Feb 16 2 #2
Yeah but has Bluetooth so that's the trade off
kiwi12 to fairytooth
29 Feb 16 2 #4
​not to bad though :smiley: for the price
fairytooth
29 Feb 16 14 #3
Helpful advice, thanks.

Bluetooth v RAM, eh? great trade off :smirk:
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