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Illusionary
21 Mar 16
Originally released as Lylat Wars in Europe, Star Fox 64's release to the Wii U Virtual Console, in advance of the upcoming Star Fox Zero, was always pretty much inevitable - and Nintendo UK have just confirmed on Twitter that we'll see the game released this coming Thursday, 24 March.

As also just announced on Twitter, there will be a 50% discount in effect for the initial release, up until 21 April (with Star Fox Zero released the following day, on 22 April) - so this will be an ideal way to get yourself ready for this upcoming new release!

The standard price of N64 games on the Virtual Console is £8.99, so this discount will reduce the price to £4.49.

If you already own the game on the Wii Virtual Console, a discounted price of £1.79 should apply instead (it's unclear if this will *also* be discounted by 50%, but I doubt it).
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937666
21 Mar 16 11 #19
http://i.giphy.com/k511dxWGcUKY.gif
pbyron1
21 Mar 16 10 #1
Do a barrel roll!
RuudBullit to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 8 #14
surely whether it's worth it or not should be down to how playable it still is. If you're going to get even as little as 4 hours play out of this, just over £1 per hour to be entertained seems ok to me.

I reckon I'll be investing.
jsty3105 to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 7 #13
Worth more than a £1 surely :wink:

Probably off topic but sometimes I feel it's not useful to depreciate games based on the length of time they've been around. Don't get me wrong, I love things to be cheap otherwise I wouldn't frequent this site but surely not all things have a completely downward depreciation? Especially if some are trying to argue that games are art? And we're really not getting a 1:1 experience since there are a couple of added features that help like save states and miiverse
Latest comments (68)
m3racer123
1 Apr 16 #68
Typical, the minimum eshop purchase to earn you any My Nintendo points is £4.50! I'll expect there to be lots more eshop games priced at £4.49...
Illusionary
27 Mar 16 #67
No, there's no straightforward way to 'convert' a 4:3 presentation of a game to 16:9, at least not for console games. The best that you could do would be to get your TV to stretch or zoom/crop the image - neither of which I'd recommend.

120Hz is something that you may find fairly frequently with TV refresh rates, but very few console games of any generation will run at 120fps (Hz and fps are pretty much interchangeable units, just commonly used in different contexts) - I'm not aware of any. Frankly, I'd be surprised if many people can tell much, if any, difference between 60fps and 120fps.
din75
27 Mar 16 #66
Thank you for your answers. What i am trying to find out is, as like in this case, if a game has ben amde in 4:3 ration can in then not be converted to 16:9 i a quick efficient way so does not require a load of reprogramming as in almost like writing the game alll over again, as the 4:3 ratio in this game here spoils the experience for myself personally. Finally how does one tell if a game is running at 120fps-is that similar to a game trying to to run at 60hz or are they unrelated.
Illusionary
27 Mar 16 #65
Some can tell the difference, some can't (personally, I don't tend to notice small framerate differences). One thing to note is that the refresh rate is often directly tied to how fast the game runs, so a given sequence will complete more quickly with the 60Hz version of a game.

It would help if you could explain what ultimately it is that you're concerned about here, so that we can best answer your question/offer reassurance.
din75
27 Mar 16 #64
Thanks mate i thought something similar but was not quite sure. Whats always baffles me though is the 50hz & 60hz diff, how can you tell if a game is only 50hz rather than 60hz-and is that related to a games being run at 120fps which seems to be the "benchmark" for gamers- sorry i have googled this before but was none the wiser
Illusionary
27 Mar 16 #63
Refresh rate and image ratio are unrelated. Almost all N64 games were released in 4:3 ratio, including Star Fox 64.

As above, this release is for the US version, Star Fox 64, and hence is 60Hz. If it was 50Hz, you'd see it titled Lylat Wars.
Schwarzenegger
21 Mar 16 1 #20
Finally a 60Hz version, playing it at 50Hz on Wii VC hurt my brain.
din75 to Schwarzenegger
27 Mar 16 #62
Anyonw who has purchased this, can they plz confirm if this is indeed 50hz or 60hz, as the pictures and the trailer in the eshop show black bars on the left and right of the screen (like 4:3 ratio) which makes me think this is not a full screen game (guessing that 50hz has back bars and 60 hz is full screen with no black bars) and that 50hz is 4:3 ratio whilst 60hz is 16:9 ratio, or have i got this all wrong?
Illusionary
24 Mar 16 1 #61
Now available for purchase/download. :smiley:
bigweapon07
24 Mar 16 #59
Anyone know what time its released
Holliss to bigweapon07
24 Mar 16 #60
Around 3pm UK time is the norm.
937666
22 Mar 16 #58
Agreed
daver77
22 Mar 16 #57
I think I got mine bundled with Perfect Dark, awesome game!
937666
22 Mar 16 #56
That's where i got one from. You're right, the game wouldn't work without it.
captainbeaky
22 Mar 16 #53
I'm reading this & trying to remember why I bought the N64 expansion pack.
1970QPR to captainbeaky
22 Mar 16 #55
​you most probably bought it or got it with DK64! I can't be sure now as to whether you could use the cart without it?
yubious
22 Mar 16 #54
Always thought Lylat Wars was a much better title.
Moronic
22 Mar 16 #52
This game is too hard, you can actually lose!
oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 6 #6
Seems expensive for a 15+ year old game.
937666 to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 3 #9
It's a Nintendo game don't forget :wink:
jsty3105 to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 7 #13
Worth more than a £1 surely :wink:

Probably off topic but sometimes I feel it's not useful to depreciate games based on the length of time they've been around. Don't get me wrong, I love things to be cheap otherwise I wouldn't frequent this site but surely not all things have a completely downward depreciation? Especially if some are trying to argue that games are art? And we're really not getting a 1:1 experience since there are a couple of added features that help like save states and miiverse
RuudBullit to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 8 #14
surely whether it's worth it or not should be down to how playable it still is. If you're going to get even as little as 4 hours play out of this, just over £1 per hour to be entertained seems ok to me.

I reckon I'll be investing.
OP_ to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 #16
£4.49? Pay more for a damn Subway!
moko84 to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 #43
Is £4.49 REALLY a lot of money for a very good game?
psycho_terror to oUkTuRkEyIII
21 Mar 16 2 #45
Super Metroid 1994
Chrono Trigger 1995
Final Fantasy VII 1997
Goldeneye 1997
Ocarina of Time 1998
Metal Gear Solid 1998
Half Life 1998

etc. etc. etc.

"15+ years ago" was a golden age of gaming - it should come as no surprise that these titles will live on forever in our hearts and wallets.
tjc2005 to oUkTuRkEyIII
22 Mar 16 #51
I have to agree, I mean... Just because some people are getting all giddy and nostalgic, however at least this it is a deal though as it is 50% off.

But when someone posted the Day of the tentacle remastered "deal" the other day and people were voting hot, just for nostalgic reasons, was stupid as it wasn't really a deal being so close to RRP.
pbyron1
21 Mar 16 10 #1
Do a barrel roll!
Illusionary to pbyron1
21 Mar 16 #2
Fond memories!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5qzMtLE60


Given that this has been announced as "Star Fox 64" rather then "Lylat Wars", I'm assuming that this will be the 60Hz US release.
drummerdickens to pbyron1
21 Mar 16 1 #39
Tuxerito to pbyron1
22 Mar 16 #50
Try searching that on Google(In the main page write do a barrel roll and press the enter key).
byden
21 Mar 16 #49
was great on the n64
packingtape
21 Mar 16 #48
omg awesome..
ReigningSemtex
21 Mar 16 #47
I will be getting all over this
dean15380
21 Mar 16 1 #46
On a serious note though I wish Falco would do a barrel roll into the side of a planet.
slacey1070
21 Mar 16 1 #44
work in Central London... unless I make happy hour at The Gable it's an expensive night!
leedsfanhirons
21 Mar 16 #42
Biggest choice of my life came aged 7 when I got to one of the last levels and my Dad asked if I wanted to go up to the park to play football....I chose football and never reached that level again...
slacey1070
21 Mar 16 #40
price of an after work pint? I'm in.

cheers op
937666 to slacey1070
21 Mar 16 #41
Where do you live? :confused:
Illusionary
21 Mar 16 1 #38
Yes.
Bossworld
21 Mar 16 #37
Can you reload from that point more than once? E.g if you start off on the hard route, save your game.

if you then make an absolute hash of it, but don't save your progress, what happens to your last save (if that makes sense)?
Thanks
fuzzydunlop
21 Mar 16 #36
Great game apart from the characters who I always thought were designed for 4 year olds...
WeskerLives
21 Mar 16 #28
I'd rather have Starwing on the SNES, I don't get why they never released it on VC. I had SF64 on Wii so I'm fine with paying the small charge to play it on Wii U.
sJohnson23 to WeskerLives
21 Mar 16 #30
I suspect the custom chip Starwing had is yet to be replicated in emulation (at least officially).

I lived the bit when you completed the game when they'd tot up your destruction and they'd charge the General - clearly Fox and co were mercs, not soldiers. "Whaaaaat?"
jimidini to WeskerLives
21 Mar 16 #35
SuperFX chip would need to get licensed, because it was developed by Argonaut games and that company was bought up by some other crappy company, that probably wants trillions for it.

That's also why we haven't gotten Yoshi's Island for SNES yet.
JusticeUK
21 Mar 16 #34
Good deal especially with Zelda.
937666
21 Mar 16 #33
I think i'm going to get it as part of this deal here
Poch
21 Mar 16 #32
StarFox 64 is one of the few N64 title that doesn't look dated. GoldenEye 64 in comparison looks rubbish! I'm surprised my eyes didn't bleed all those years ago playing them on the N64
JusticeUK
21 Mar 16 1 #31
​It's excellent, they overhauled the graphics too so it feels really slick. I'm still tempted to get the VC version just wish I could be sure that my purchases will be recorded for the next run of Nintendo consoles.
focux007
21 Mar 16 #29
wish they'd done this with the snes 3ds games instead of the woeful bogohp. I would've lapped a fair titles up for £4 each. not paying nearly double that
JusticeUK
21 Mar 16 #4
Literally just bought the 3DS version ha. One of my favourite games ever.
937666 to JusticeUK
21 Mar 16 #27
What's it like in 3D? Good i'm guessing
937666
21 Mar 16 2 #26
http://i.giphy.com/aV4eui8NjLFIs.gif

http://i.giphy.com/nQ1Pi0Bb6yAGk.gif

http://i.giphy.com/sNBR8VZAKk0mI.gif

http://i.giphy.com/U1nJ6TcFiAoCc.gif
Maevoric
21 Mar 16 2 #25
​If it works like mario kart 64 then you have one save state slot and you can save wherever you want
Tacozilla
21 Mar 16 3 #22
http://www.fmlstudios.com/barellroll

A fantastic game, brings back memories of when I first played it on the N64 all those years ago with the rumble pack
Maevoric to Tacozilla
21 Mar 16 #24
​Like it but do an Aileron roll just doesn't sound right :laughing:
Bossworld
21 Mar 16 #23
How do the save states work? I've got this on the Wii Virtual Console but would be tempted to get it for the Wii U part if you can come and go from your progress (particularly if you opt for the hard route). If it just allows to you resume once, not so sure.
B1naryC0de
21 Mar 16 1 #21
"It's time to show the monkey's who's boss!!"

Probably the most quotable game ever made
937666
21 Mar 16 11 #19
http://i.giphy.com/k511dxWGcUKY.gif
dealsonmeals
21 Mar 16 #18
The only version I ever played was for the snes but looking forward to this
Dante666
21 Mar 16 1 #17
One of my favourite games on the n64. Not a bad price for it either :smiley: heat added! So many memories!
m3racer123
21 Mar 16 #15
Finally, a half-decent eshop deal! Cheers Rob!
937666
21 Mar 16 #12
We've already had that one :stuck_out_tongue:
rimz790
21 Mar 16 1 #11
Might have to make a barrel roll with my wallet...
jimidini
21 Mar 16 3 #10
Do a barrel roll

EDIT: God damn pbyron1
*cough*
Hey, Einstein! I'm on your side!
brilly
21 Mar 16 1 #8
screw you slippy toad :disappointed:
totneschap
21 Mar 16 #7
Great game and a great price for the Nintendo eShop :smiley:
jsty3105
21 Mar 16 1 #5
​Nintendo Europe's VC titles have defaulted to US release versions except in rare circumstances :smiley:
gordonla1984
21 Mar 16 #3
I hope they hurry up with the new loyalty programme as I don't want to be downloading and not getting points. This offer is on for a long time though. Never got this first time around, but have 4 others in the series, so can't wait.
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