BTW we charge £5 per 1lb / 454g jar if we sell honey at local events and we cover our costs with no great profits.
An empty honey jar costs us around 40p.
If you want to help the honey bees then by all means plant suitable flowers, but you could also support your local beekeepers by buying honey directly from them or at farmers markets etc..
Thank you for bearing with. Hot deal , but I won't be buying any.:wink:
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paulrigby57
12 Mar 16#47
Just been into Blackburn Morrison's .The stock was all short dated to August 2016. The stock on the shelf had started to crystalize at approx 50% volume. In addition the content's are listed everywhere in the world blended honey which is exactly the same as "mum's choice" honey which is sold by supermarkets at just over a quid....Not a bargain and another example of Morrison's trying to have the customer over....
bigredbucket to paulrigby57
13 Mar 16#52
Crystallisation is not really a problem - all honey will eventually crystallise given long enough - its a factor relating to the glucose/fructose ratio of the specific honey. Some of our honey has even crystallised in the comb - very annoying.
You can bring it back to liquid by warming gently and stirring until clear.
bigredbucket
13 Mar 16#51
No one can truly claim their honey is organic as you can't control what the bees collect. You can site them on organic status land, but if they want, they can fly 5 miles to forage. They would need to be in a huge organic "oasis" for that to work - very unlikely on our cramped island. We do not pasteurise - honey is naturally antiseptic and if correctly processed there is no need. In fact we only warm it as much as necessary for it to pass through the very fine filters. Some folks don't even want to filter - but I don't like to find bee parts on my toast...
bigredbucket
13 Mar 16#50
We would love to charge more! But as long as Rowse can be bought for £1.28 it's hard to do.
We might produce 100 - 200 jars per year. As an association we sell at 3 or 4 local community events - village fete, council open day, county show etc.
I have seen (rather expensive) honey in our local farm shop - it is local-ish but the methodology is more industrial. They can tell you the honey is from Hertfordshire, I can tell you which hive it came from and which season. :smiley:
theTrueFocus11
12 Mar 16#49
Regardless if "food chemists" actually tested every honey product sold in the UK,
if it contains non-EU honey, it is not guaranteed to be pure.
In fact more likely to be impure (or "quality" as you put it).
The term I use for "fake honey"
includes very poor ratio honey-syrup blends (like 10% honey :confused:)
and anyway, these companies can get away with things you wouldn't believe.
Misleading labels like on products that say "made with organic ingredients"
may also contain non-organic ingredients/processing/contaminants/treatments, etc.
That's what I meant.
I don't know if 100% fake honey would be allowed to be labeled as honey
but to me even if it's 80% honey, it's still extremely misleading labeling.
But there's far worse out there than 80% honey for example.
As someone said, they bought some honey in this country that
had 10% honey and the rest syrup garbage! :confused:
theTrueFocus11
12 Mar 16#48
I think what he meant was that non-EU honeys don't guarantee
purity, e.g. some Chinese honeys are fake or impure.
And I agree, it is suspicious that it contains non-EU honey.
Business as usual I suppose. :neutral_face:
Dealover12
12 Mar 16#46
Is your honey organic and unpasteurised?
bigredbucket
11 Mar 1611#19
BTW we charge £5 per 1lb / 454g jar if we sell honey at local events and we cover our costs with no great profits.
An empty honey jar costs us around 40p.
If you want to help the honey bees then by all means plant suitable flowers, but you could also support your local beekeepers by buying honey directly from them or at farmers markets etc..
Thank you for bearing with. Hot deal , but I won't be buying any.:wink:
Holdsworth to bigredbucket
11 Mar 16#20
Where do you do sell your wares? I go to food fairs all the time and I've never seen real honey that cheap.
unlockk to bigredbucket
11 Mar 162#21
I would like to buy raw honey from local bee keepers. Would calling nearest apiaries and asking them be the best way?
yas212 to bigredbucket
11 Mar 161#22
Save our bees!
Equilibriate to bigredbucket
11 Mar 161#35
This is very true, and also if you do buy this honey, make sure you wash out the jar properly before putting outside in the recycling. Bees getting to honey left in jars can spread diseases to the local bee hives.
Dealover12 to bigredbucket
12 Mar 16#45
Is your honey unpasteurised or organic? I would prefer to buy from local farma/beekeepers.
jnigel26
12 Mar 16#44
I love honey. Always have. :sunglasses:
Used to buy local but I've had some that doesn't taste that good, tastes cheap, doesn't crystalise... are they filling jars with Lidl's crap?
Best out there on the shelves is Littleover Apiaries, currently on offer in Sainsbury's at 3 quid. Normally 4 quid.
Both set and runny varieties are superb! Genuine English honey, none of the 'blended' stuff. I buy this everytime, even over the local stuff after my experiences.
They even do a version with 'royal jelly' but it's dearer, usually available in Waitrose just under a fiver. Doesn't appeal.
spock1958
11 Mar 161#26
This quest for real local honey is all very noble, but if we spent all our time travelling to producers that are deemed suitable to buy the stuff, along with all the other products that are not all exactly 100% natural, then we would feel morally good about it, but would not only be financially broke, but would produce car pollution far worse than any gain from the product from all the travelling. It's not easy to just go to (or even identify) your local producer in the middle of Wigan :smirk:
b1ackbob to spock1958
11 Mar 161#43
I'm a local beekeeper in the wigan area and sell my surplus honey, I also post. This link will provide a list of honey suppliers in the uk. http://www.honeybeehive.co.uk/honey/suppliers/
Vyker
11 Mar 161#42
Found a local bee keeper in my area thanks to that website - looking forward to buying and trying local fresh honey! Thank you.
staronthebluesky
10 Mar 167#5
A blend of EU and non EU honeys...nothing pure...
theTrueFocus11 to staronthebluesky
10 Mar 163#7
I suspected this too.
A lot of non-EU honeys (e.g. some Chinese honey)
are impure or completely fake (e.g. some kind of syrup like high fructose corn syrup).
Do you know of any brands or ways of knowing
if a honey product is 100% pure?
Will the real honey please stand up,
please stand up,
please stand up. :wink:
ukripper to staronthebluesky
11 Mar 16#38
Yep another strong reason for Brexit!
AndyPr to staronthebluesky
11 Mar 16#39
I don't understand why something can be considered impure because it is a blend of EU and non EU honey. This is honey and nothing else. My dictionary says 'Pure - not mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material' which is exactly what this is. Same sort of mentality as a kipper!
DealJourno to staronthebluesky
11 Mar 16#41
I wonder if the non EU is british (thinking ahead) :smile:
AndyPr
11 Mar 16#40
Voted hot for the deal BTW. Immaterial as to whether I personally like it or not, it's still a good deal.
firstofficer
11 Mar 16#37
Gales honey is the best... All British ingredients too..
Thats not necessarily so, it depends on the bees forage, our honey is quite light and very runny until it granulates
PhilthyPhil
11 Mar 16#32
BBKA doesn't include Scotland?
Did we get independence when I wasn't looking?
phatbhoy
11 Mar 162#31
Contains non-EU honey. Pretty vague - how do you know that doesnt include Chinese honey?
phatbhoy
11 Mar 16#28
Some nonsense on here - its not fake honey.
Now the question of quality is another matter - this is mass produced honey - and containing non- eu honey.
Foods coming from China should be avoided.
firstofficer to phatbhoy
11 Mar 16#30
Fatboy, this is not from China..
firstofficer
11 Mar 16#29
Is this sugar free ?
rasdonny
11 Mar 16#27
so does that means you dont consume honey from Rowse then ?
majorthoms
11 Mar 161#25
sure thing these honeys taste rather golden syrupy than anything else. pure honey is slightly darker and not very liquid.
blahblahdoh
11 Mar 16#24
Not a bad deal, but Asda pure honey is £1.35 for a much bigger jar (454g), which seems better?
bigredbucket
11 Mar 164#23
Yes - the national British BeeKeeping Association (www.BBKA.org.uk) website has contact information for all the local associations and your local area can tell you where they sell, and/or which beekeeper lives nearest to you. Thank you for your support. :innocent:
Pspvita
11 Mar 161#18
Buzzzzzing deal bzzzzzzz
bigredbucket
11 Mar 164#17
As a hobbyist beekeeper I am heartened that there are folks asking these questions.
In our house, 100% pure means - take frames from hive (at the right moment) uncap the wax cells by hand, insert frames into honey extractor (like a spin-dryer) extract honey, pass gently warmed honey through fine filter and into a jar. The honey will still contain pollen and wax particles small enough to go through the filters. It tastes amazing.
The mega producers blend honey from all over the world, they heat it strongly and force it under pressure through micro-filters so all the pollen is removed. It tastes...sweet.
hollylovelace86
11 Mar 16#16
Even cheaper than Lidl!
mr-mixalot
11 Mar 161#15
You'll never become a real SLIM shady if you keep eating this stuff
:wink:
Over The Knee
11 Mar 163#14
Maybe it is, but in the same way that Fifty Shades of Grey is a book.
laineyhen
11 Mar 162#8
funny
but this just happened to me today too
treat my lot to a lovely looking slab in my local indian store
it looked like honeycomb in a tray of honey
i didnt think to check its ingredient list
it said honey on the label so i guess i believed it was honey
you know what i mean
then gets it back home
reads the label properly
blimmin glucose fructose. with ten percent honey
ouch
expensive mistake and one disappointed me
paid 3 quid only last week for pure unpasteurised is it? as in as it comes , with all of the honey nutrients you would expect
lesson learned, read every label....
mayzi to laineyhen
11 Mar 161#10
I had the exact experience!
zx636r to laineyhen
11 Mar 168#13
I thought I was going to read a poem at first.
Baldieman64
11 Mar 161#12
If it's "fake (e.g. some kind of syrup like high fructose corn syrup)", it's not honey. If it's not honey, the presence of sugars and other chemicals not actually found in real honey wold be easily detectable to a food chemist.
With Rowse being a global player in the honey market, what do you suppose the chances are of them risking their reputation and their entire business to provide a special offer at Morrisons?
jasee
11 Mar 161#11
I knew nothing of this! Fortunately, I don't like the taste of honey. I'm sure while the US may have the resources to investigate such things, we don't, we can't even stop people coming into this country! The full frightening story about honey production is here.
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An empty honey jar costs us around 40p.
If you want to help the honey bees then by all means plant suitable flowers, but you could also support your local beekeepers by buying honey directly from them or at farmers markets etc..
Thank you for bearing with. Hot deal , but I won't be buying any.:wink:
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You can bring it back to liquid by warming gently and stirring until clear.
We might produce 100 - 200 jars per year. As an association we sell at 3 or 4 local community events - village fete, council open day, county show etc.
I have seen (rather expensive) honey in our local farm shop - it is local-ish but the methodology is more industrial. They can tell you the honey is from Hertfordshire, I can tell you which hive it came from and which season. :smiley:
if it contains non-EU honey, it is not guaranteed to be pure.
In fact more likely to be impure (or "quality" as you put it).
The term I use for "fake honey"
includes very poor ratio honey-syrup blends (like 10% honey :confused:)
and anyway, these companies can get away with things you wouldn't believe.
Misleading labels like on products that say "made with organic ingredients"
may also contain non-organic ingredients/processing/contaminants/treatments, etc.
That's what I meant.
I don't know if 100% fake honey would be allowed to be labeled as honey
but to me even if it's 80% honey, it's still extremely misleading labeling.
But there's far worse out there than 80% honey for example.
As someone said, they bought some honey in this country that
had 10% honey and the rest syrup garbage! :confused:
purity, e.g. some Chinese honeys are fake or impure.
And I agree, it is suspicious that it contains non-EU honey.
Business as usual I suppose. :neutral_face:
An empty honey jar costs us around 40p.
If you want to help the honey bees then by all means plant suitable flowers, but you could also support your local beekeepers by buying honey directly from them or at farmers markets etc..
Thank you for bearing with. Hot deal , but I won't be buying any.:wink:
Used to buy local but I've had some that doesn't taste that good, tastes cheap, doesn't crystalise... are they filling jars with Lidl's crap?
Best out there on the shelves is Littleover Apiaries, currently on offer in Sainsbury's at 3 quid. Normally 4 quid.
Both set and runny varieties are superb! Genuine English honey, none of the 'blended' stuff. I buy this everytime, even over the local stuff after my experiences.
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/honey/littleover-clear-wildflower-honey-340g
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/honey/littleover-english-set-honey-340g
They even do a version with 'royal jelly' but it's dearer, usually available in Waitrose just under a fiver. Doesn't appeal.
A lot of non-EU honeys (e.g. some Chinese honey)
are impure or completely fake (e.g. some kind of syrup like high fructose corn syrup).
Do you know of any brands or ways of knowing
if a honey product is 100% pure?
Will the real honey please stand up,
please stand up,
please stand up. :wink:
Did we get independence when I wasn't looking?
Now the question of quality is another matter - this is mass produced honey - and containing non- eu honey.
Foods coming from China should be avoided.
In our house, 100% pure means - take frames from hive (at the right moment) uncap the wax cells by hand, insert frames into honey extractor (like a spin-dryer) extract honey, pass gently warmed honey through fine filter and into a jar. The honey will still contain pollen and wax particles small enough to go through the filters. It tastes amazing.
The mega producers blend honey from all over the world, they heat it strongly and force it under pressure through micro-filters so all the pollen is removed. It tastes...sweet.
:wink:
but this just happened to me today too
treat my lot to a lovely looking slab in my local indian store
it looked like honeycomb in a tray of honey
i didnt think to check its ingredient list
it said honey on the label so i guess i believed it was honey
you know what i mean
then gets it back home
reads the label properly
blimmin glucose fructose. with ten percent honey
ouch
expensive mistake and one disappointed me
paid 3 quid only last week for pure unpasteurised is it? as in as it comes , with all of the honey nutrients you would expect
lesson learned, read every label....
With Rowse being a global player in the honey market, what do you suppose the chances are of them risking their reputation and their entire business to provide a special offer at Morrisons?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/honey-laundering-the-sour-side-of-natures-golden-sweetener/article562759/?page=1