Yay! Cupboard-ware! :laughing:

I once knew a constipated baker with brown hands.... Turned out he kneaded a poo...!!

Internet police!!! Also hands would be TWO breadmakers!

Tempted but don't want to go down route of eating more bread when i need to lose weight !

Hey. I only made brioche once but if you look closeley at the recipe there is a not that says you don't have to add the butter later. I just added it all at the start and it works out great.

It will beep during the cyke to tell you to add the butter but if you don't add it it just carries on anyway.

Hope this helps and let me know how it goes :sunglasses:

I have a query on making brioche - it will be great if someone can help me please. It says add 50g butter with other ingredients and down below it says keep 70g butter in fridge to be added later. Does this mean in all we use 120g butter? Or do we skip adding 50g butter at the start and then add 70g when it displays "add butter" sign. Sorry to post to on an old thread.

made three basic white loafs so far, and everyone of them has been perfect.

well happy with this purchase

Hm maybe I was a bit thick and used to much water. I'm not going to use bread mix next time. Maybe that will help.

Thanks which flour are you using? Ive treid doves farm and that didnt work !

I bought seeded bread mix by accident thinking it was merely a pack of mixed seeds (I'm sometimes not the most observant in supermarkets)! I also saw crusty white, wholemeal, parmesan (?) and some sort of tomato, bread mixes in Aldi (shelf label) last night - but they only appeared to have white and wholemeal varieties left.

Will go for bread mixes as a novelty but I prefer to know what I'm putting in, too.

Does anyone have any reliable recipes for low carb bread? I have found a few on the 'net, but the HUKD crew are often a good source of information.

Unless people are going for some really exotic breads I'm sure you'd save money by just buying strong bread flour and dried yeast rather than bread mixtures. And you know what's in it as well (when you navigate around food allergies that is a bigger point than it sounds)

Sounds like it's not cooked in the middle. Did you have the right quantities of ingredients in for the programme you selected?

Just tried my first loaf. Came out pretty good but slightly wet in the middle. Anyone know why that might be? Used bread mix and water...

My first attempt was with bread mix and water (the Sainsburys one I linked to a few posts back) and abscorbic acid and it worked perfectly. It was a 4 hour programme, though (1).

Not sure how you can muck up bread mix to be honest, bit odd! Maybe best to avoid Rapid Bake with ready mixes - separate ingredients might work out better in Rapid mode? Just guessing as I'm new to this too.

I see. I used the bread mix from Amazon which had sugar, salt and yeast pre mixed with the flour. The yeast must've broken down in the presence of salt. I'll try adding fresh yeast to the mix and see if it helps. Thanks.

I haven't tried Rapid yet but apparently abscorbic acid helps with the rise (would be especially helpful on Rapid mode I'm guessing).

Also, you keep the yeast away from the liquid (and salt too, as salt is sterile it renders the yeast useless) as it can have a disastrous effect, but you probably know that already :smile:

One blogger suggests "Always premix salt and sugar with the flour before adding yeast".

I tried my first bread with this machine using the Basic Rapid option and the bread didn't rise much. Does the Basic option give better results?

Thanks, definitely no email from them....I have sent Panasonic an email. I suspected it would still be under warranty even if not registered with them, but nice to have it confirmed :smiley:

I got an email when I did it yesterday - maybe check your Junk Folder?

In my case, I found the serial number didn't fit the required spaces properly, this comment helped http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R23EWX0J9GHVIQ"I was told that Panasonic breadmakers are released in such high quantities that several units will have the same serial number. The warranty is unaffected whether the unit is registered or not and registration is only for market research purposes.
If I insisted on registering the breadmaker I should do so by inserting hyphons between the characters of the serial number ('110519' becomes '1-1-0-5-1-9'). You could, of course, register using the card provided within the packaging."

I bought it... has anyone tried to register the product on the Panasonic website? You are asked to create a profile and then they send an activation to your email. No email from them in inbox or spam, this is the second time this has happened with Panasonic, they don't send me an email so I cannot register the breadmachine?

My Sainsburys-bought seeded bread mix (and 500mg of Ascorbic acid crushed up) made my very first loaf of bread fluffy light and delicious! Going to get more adventurous with the next bake!

Noticed the paddle gets some gunk underneath it, and the spindle it attaches to, but a rinse out with warm water sorted it out (you can't immerse the pan in soapy water, something to do with the rubber seal in the spindle). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZOOVkW1WBk

I cut my loaves down the middle, top to bottom, and then slice each half, not only does this reduce the chance the paddle leaves any mark in the slice, it also makes slices more convenient for toasting, that post about the bread is so incorrect I suspect he's just trolling or a complete idiot, though possibly both.

Personally I prefer hand made, but the bread machine makes bread cooking more convenient and it's so close to hand made, you'd either have to be incompetent at following recipes or a pedant not to be happy. I would imagine most of the derogatory comments are from none owners.

mike

I'm surprised at slannmage's comment as there are rave reviews for this all over the internet. I'm going to set mine on timer tonight - on my Fast Day today! :smile:

You clearly have a clue about this bread maker, a good chunk? The paddle is less than 2 cm tall....

Any bread that came out of this I would never want to eat, plus a good chunk of the bread wasn't usable since it had the shape of the metal paddle cooked into it.

And freshly cooked bread sucks, it's much better to let it cool down for a couple hours and then reheat.

Not sure if it's just my Sainsburys but they're doing a Multiseed Bread Mix (500g) for 57p - lightly malted bread with sunflower, pumpkin, poppy and linseeds http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/sainsburys-multiseed-bread-mix-500g

Also got their 1.5kg Strong White Flour which is £1.05 in my store (might be because it's a small city centre one?) but 95p here http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/bread-flour--mixes---yeast/sainsburys-strong-white-bread-flour--unbleached-15kg

How quickly bread goes stale varies with the recipe. If you're only using flour, yeast, salt and water it won't last long. Sticking in extras often increases the shelf life. My standard go to breadmaker recipe adds in about 3tbs of olive oil and that's fine after three days. The recipe I use for soft burger rolls has butter, an egg and uses milk for most of the liquid, the results are good for a week.

got mine, and got the ingredients ready for my first loaf tomorrow. spent quite a bit of time reading over the instruction booklet posted earlier in this thread, so I was familiar with the machine and recipes.

was pleasantly surprised to discover that the instruction manual in the box has much more variety in terms of recipes than the pdf had. looking forward to trying a lot of them.

going to start off with a basic white loaf tomorrow (today) and take it from there

Here's some recipes (brioche, panatonne, cakes, breads, hot cross buns etc) on the Panasonic site for breadmakers https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances-learn/home-appliances/the-ideas-kitchen/breadmaker-recipe.html

Bought one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchen-Craft-Expanding-Acrylic-Keeper/dp/B000YJDIOM and also an Eddington's Bread bag.

Bought this yesterday from Amazon and got it delivered today!!! Very happy with the price!!! :smile:

A bit like nearly every HUKDer having a Linx tablet, most of us will now have a Panny breadmaker. I broke down and bought one - that's the best price it's ever gonna get I think!

Looking forward to experimenting with it :smile:

I've found the recipes on the back of the packs of gluten free flour seem to give good results. I'm not Celiac, but I have a friend who is and tells me the loaves made are far better than the shop bought ones.

Given that the mixture is more like a cake batter anyway, it should be fine in the bread machine. I just used my food processor as you don't need to knead the gluten free bread mix to build up the gluten-free gluten :laughing:

I'm determined to use it and not store it away with my rice maker. :laughing:

I think cooker also use twice more electricity .

Hi. Checked with my girlfriend and apparently we used a gluten-free mixture that was bought at Lidl. 500g packs, she said. We did 4 or 5 of them for friends that were Gluten intolerant and it worked out fine (bear in mind that it will grow half the size of a normal white loaf). One advice is to mix the gluten free flour with oat flour or some other gluten free flour. Also, you might want to try "old" cereals like spelt... The gluten in there is different of the "modern" one and gluten intolerant people are usually fine with it, but if you have celiac disease don't try it. Also, use olive oil instead of butter for all recipes.

Good man. I resisted, but wish I had've but believe I did the right thing. Like someone said, its yet another thing to cram into a cupboard eventually

Thanks PJ looking forward to my fresh bread. <3

It won't last 3 days in my house. You could freeze some of it.

I've asked for it to be expired
:smiley:

The day is over.

But it will have less sugar than supermarket bread. That's my excuse for buying one. :smile:

£108.00

You can get yeast for free at Asda. Just ask bakery folk

Fantastic deal, one of the best I have seen on HUKD. I thought £80+ for the black one was good, just wish I had waited.

On back order now "Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months."

how do you make naan bread in one of these. would be interested to know this, as I'm having curry tomorrow and the bread maker arrives tomorrow also

A good quality bread bin, I personally use a Joseph Joseph one with wooden lid, you can easily get 2-3 days without noticing, and it will last longer. Failing that, use the older bread for toast and bake fresh for sandwiches.

Loaf tin and hands are much cheaper :P

I have one, it's ****, just buy a machine to knead instead, you can get better results in an oven.

Waste of space. There is only one breadmaker and that is your hands.

Missus is going to kill me as we have nowhere to put it but I've been eyeing one of these up for ages!

Oh well, in the dog house again....

would love to buy it but my kitchen is too small.

Buy this, use the box to return the Argos one!

Wow. I paid £120 for the black one just yesterday from Argos. Unreal. My OH also ripped the box up so can't even take it back. Timing is insane!!!!

I once knew a constipated baker with brown hands.... Turned out he kneaded a poo...!!

How long does it take and do you need to skip a step if you use a mature s/d culture?

Hi, does anyone have experience of using their own sourdough starter (the kind which has sat around in a jar for a year and needs feeding/topping up when you use some) in this bread machine and if so does it work? My poor sourdough culture only gets used for pizza dough because I cannot be bothered with the 2/3 day work and wait which goes into the production of a real sourdough loaf, so if this machine can do the magic with my sourdough in hours not days I want one..:smile:

Just baked my loaf to last the next couple of days. My experience of breadmakers in the past wasn't very positive so I've done it by hand ever since. I'd attach a photo but I suspect it won't be a surprise that it looks like.... a loaf of bread :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, if you've never tried it by hand before, it's really easy.

500g strong bread flour
2x 7g sachets of dry fast action yeast
340ml cold water
10g salt
drop of oil to help preserve (not required if you don't want it).

ye cool they honored it on web chat as i am apparently a valuable customer :smiley:

Have the same (only in aluminum) bought a year ago tomorrow. Since then, made a bread per day and a few pizza bases. Never failed once. Top quality machinerie, heavely recommended (great for gluten-free bread as well)

just got ours today, wanted to make a small loaf, (wrights mixed grain bread mix)
instructions say to use Menu Prog 2, 500g mix and choose size L - is that right?

is ok to use only 250g bread mix and choose a smaller size? (on same prog?)

also the main lid seems a bit loose, is that normal? was kind of expecting a click or a nice airtight fit

I got the Morphy Richards 48245 breadmaker 10 years ago for £20 and it's still going well 2-3 times a week.
Once you start using the breadmaker you don't go back to shop loaves.

what's wrong with using an oven?

thanks I've just bought some :smiley:

See post 6 that may help.

SD2511 is the standard definition breadmaker. Is the high definition version on offer too - the HD2600? I would never buy SD again!

Thanks for this. I was hoping it would come down :smiley:

Does anyone recommend particular ingredients from either Lidl or aldi for wholemeal recipes on this please ? I have a large cotton bag to store the bread in . Hopefully that will be OK. If not how long will it be before it goes stale or do I add something to prolong its life ?

Obviously I'm a newbie so any suggestions appreciated :smiley:

I haven't ever had a problem with keeping homemade bread for 3 days if kept in a large airtight plastic box with lid, obviously let the loaf cool before you put it in there or it will sweat and become soggy.

Bread is good on day of baking but starts to go stale pretty quick, how do you manage to eat it after 3 days?

The bread flour from Lidl works as well as the more expensive flours for basic white and brown loaves, 75p for a 1.5Kg bag. The sourdour starter is a 24hour program, but not something I have tried yet.
There's several videos on Youtube, eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRahDdVe_YQ
Note the comment below about keeping the salt separate from the yeast!

Excellent. I purchase 1. Thank you!!! Heat added.

wow
bargain

I used to use Dove's farm which comes in a packet but Allinsons now do a tin (which previously said not suitable for breadmakers but now says it is) and I've found it just as good, and much easier to store and spoon out the exact amount you need - the Dove's Farm packet tends to spill everywhere and starts to smell after a while if you don't store it in a separate airtight box. Available at most supermarkets for 99p eg

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=271257713

Thanks op- I finally gave in and have placed the order for the Panny. Heat added.

Any suggestions from the experts in here..on basic material to be bought (whilst awaiting delivery) will be highly appreciated

The batch of yeast i bought is dated till the end of next year, so if all goes well it should have all been used by then (using your calculations that would be about a loaf every 3 days, which is realistic.) Although the listing isnt't clear just to clarify you get 8 x 125g packs (1kg) and not 125g total. To buy individual bags of 125g Amazon are charging £3.39 atm, so for less than the cost of 3 bags you can have 8, abit of a no brainer given the long life.

Within the last few weeks I've easily got through half the sack of flour so whilst it may seem alot, its really not. A 1.5kg bag from the supermarket wouldn't even be enough for 2 loaves. I've also tried some of the fanicer stuff from the supermarkets and gotta say it don't taste much different to my Amazon spesh.

Im that impressed by the thing that i've now stopped buying any form of bread (inc pizzas, naan etc...) altogether.

that is an amazing price. Use mine all the time. Like 2-3 times a week.

I was being slightly flippant, but thanks for the answer anyway! :smiley:

Panasonic Instruction manual here :-

http://tda.panasonic-europe-service.com/docs/2z56f17dcfz3z3beb7z656ez706466z1fz7d3e89d2b1d560a48dc959fc0eeed14e2d141a9f/pgrp005/pcat003/sd2511/933021/BDA%20SD-2511.pdf

Panasonic breadmaker are the bees knees, highly recommend, as do loads of other reviewers. If you've had another make before which you thought was rubbish, try a Panasonic one, you won't regret it :0)

Would somebody be able to measure the size of the interior of the bread pan. So basically how big the loaves are that it makes.

Decided to buy one.

How many loaves do I need to make before I break even versus buying pre-made?

Ready made mix kind of half way to just buying a loaf, no? Plus works out way more expensive.

Been waiting for this to go below £70. Will be replacing my Panasonic SD254 which I bought in 2009 - the pan isn't non stick anymore so the bread won't come out. Paid for itself may times over in the last 7 years. Thanks OP.

Mentioned this deal to my wife only to discover we already have a bread maker (not a Panny) bought a few years ago, only used a couple of times, and now resides in the same roof loft appliance graveyard as the Tefal rice cooker, Breville toasted sandwich maker, Kenwood food processor and SodaSteam fizzy drinks maker !

The replacement bread pan is £60 so £10 more and my 10 year old bread maker (which still works but the paddle is always wedged in the loaf, and the pan is quite scratched) gets retired

Same here. This is the most used kitchen gadget we have ever purchased. About 4 loaves a week and now replacing the old SD256 as the pan is getting worn out and this is not that much more expensive.

Yay! Cupboard-ware! :laughing:

I used to buy the more expensive flour until I read this.
Go cheap on white flour and expensive on the rest. Most white wheat flour is roller-milled and excellent, so it doesn't matter whether you buy it at Lidl or a posh deli. Wholewheat flours (think rye, spelt and barley) vary in quality, as roller-milling used for cheap brands strips out the flavoursome bits such as bran and oily wheatgerm. A small traditional miller can retain the whole grain.
That's from award winning bread maker Dan Lepard.

Many thanks to the OP !!

I've been waiting for a good offer on these and this one looks excellent.

I've had a few on my CamelCamel watchlist, and as soon as soon as I see the email alert I go onto Amazon and the price seems to have gone up again, so glad to finally bag one at this price !

Panasonic breadmakers are significantly better than the two other brands I have tried. I am very happy with mine as it gets great results every time.

The ones that end up in the cupboard are the ones that don't make proper loaves of bread this one does its great.

only wish i had some free dough

Our old breadmaker has recently died, so this is a timely bargain.

Bought. and ...***HOT***

a breadmaker...its gonna get hot...see what i did there

Why would you go for all the hassle of making your own bread at home and add the chemical crap to it like they do in commercial bakeries?

btw. heat added, amazing machine, baking strong 3-4 years on now.

Bought the black one as a birthday present for my wife and so is not open. Called to see if I could get it reduced instead of sending it back but as it is a different colour and a different price to what I paid they won't do a refund. So I can either keep the black one (it does look better imo, and I know my wife would think the same) or send it back and order the white one which after return potage will save me £10. A bit annoying really but not much I can do about it.

This came out in april last year, but good to know your model lasted that long.

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Anyone tried making gluten free bread in this model, good results?

Bought the black version when it was linked here a few weeks back. It really is an excellent piece of kit.

Great price! I bought it at £84.99 a few weeks ago. You cannot go wrong with this. I've baked about 10 loaves so far and they have all come out perfectly.

lol bought this for £99.99 yesterday evening!

Not just the right! Left too!

Or just buy packs of ready-made bread mix. Chunk into machine, top up with correct amount of water, wait four hours, smother in butter, eat.

Oh, I wish I didn't need to watch my weight.

Those are really huge quantities! :smiley: 16kgs of flour is enough for around 30 loaves, and the yeast is enough for nearly 200. It does have a limited shelf life.

People starting out might do just as well to buy a 1.5kg bag of strong flour from the supermarket, and a box of 8 x 7g sachets of yeast.

Had the one without the automatic seed dispenser for over five years, use it the whole time, and it's going strong. This is a great price, and well worth heat.

Tempted but don't want to go down route of eating more bread when i need to lose weight !

Yes because you could make a loaf with each hand, right?

Never once had a bad bake with a Panasonic. Got through 2-3 other devices that were hopeless before being recommended one of these. Top pieces of kit and that is an excellent price.

Internet police!!! Also hands would be TWO breadmakers!

Definitely recommend. We dont buy unhealthy bread with additives anymore. Loafs turn out perfect and you will find that making the dough for pizza cakes turn out perfect. Love the brioche recipe.
Fantastic price and it will pay for itself within a years use

This is also recommended. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SN72CJE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=37ISWASNUP482&coliid=I24LDR3AOO5G9N&psc=1

great deal, ordered.

anybody have a pdf version of the included recipe book, so I can buy some ingredients before it arrives.