10,000 miles pa

As with all car lease deals....anything below this comment is not worth reading.

I thought that was obvious? he's a prat!

Because he's not allowed a dinner knife.

10,000 miles pa

As with all car lease deals....anything below this comment is not worth reading.

Not bad x

Every few months a deal comes up on these. Usually cheaper than this?

says 875.40 initial rental

Initial Rental £875.40 INCL VAT
Processing fee £230

They have just changed it :disappointed: will expire

They have just changed it :disappointed: will expire

I have this on a 25k miles a year lease. Great car. Good mpg.

I thought that was obvious? he's a prat!

Stupid question I know, but what do they do with car after it's returned?

How do the company's make money from leasing cars.

Serious replies please.

Would be very embarrassed to drive this car.

Comical that Nissan decided going back to the Almera approach was a good idea after the success they have had with SUVs.

They sell them in car auctions. Garages buy them, clean them, add 20% and then sell them to you!

Dunno, didn't read it...

10k miles isn't enough

Cold, I can buy a classic car for less, and keep it!!!

Because he's not allowed a dinner knife.

Don't get the 1.2 its woeful

Because he's the spoon ...

I think you've both misunderstood what he was saying. He was adding the 10,000mpa as info (as it isn't in the OP) and then saying basically, every lease deals comment section turns into a load of crap so people should just ignore them (which is pretty much true). Seems like you two have taken it to mean that he thinks 10k mpa isn't worth reading about.

I think you will find I did put the milage in the op. please look for you glasses before passing judgement

I'll wait for the Gti-R model :smirk:

Keeps you fit!

Great thread, keep up the good work.

27 miles per day. Fine for popping to the shops!

​add 20% haha you dont have a clue do you

I'm just glad to see something that isn't German! heat from me. And heat for daring to be different and not following the crowd.

Great logic in principle.

However put a Pulsar next to a Golf, and know one in their right mind would choose the Nissan.

I think they look pretty decent and having sat in one recently I wouldn't class them feeling cheap at all, far from it. I would just avoid white but go for dark colour. Bargain motoring tbh...

Problem is at the lower end you are pitching it against the Polo. So it's bigger, more powerful, less dull. Not looking as bad now as a family car.

Just looked at the Nissan website.

They have 1.2 pulsars starting at £22,000 bargain lol

The base model is £14k vs £17.5 for the golf so £3.5k more. Even a Polo with similar power (115hp vs 110hp) is £2.5k more expensive!
The 190bhp model is less than £20k and a Golf GTi is £8k more.
At sub £20k its going head to head with the Polo GTi.

But yes if you take money out of the equation then yes the Golf is better. But then many would say a 3 series and an A3 are better than the Golf!

Only a fool considers just the intial cost price. Depreciation is where your money is lost.

Yes exactly. Let's say in 10 years the £20k Nissan is worth £2k you have lost £18k. Now look at the GTi. Let's say it's worth twice as much at £4k, you have lost £24k. That's £6k or a Suzuki Alto! :smiley:

So you are saying it would be foolish to buy the Golf right!?

The 2005 report estimated the production cost of each Logan to be $1,069, compared to $2,468 of an equivalent Western model. This was partly due to using refurbished Renault factory equipment, Eastern European cheap labour and a generous parts bin.

The same report also suggested that for every Logan sold at $6,000, Dacia actually lost $34. Luckily hardly anyone buys the basic one and the average sale is $9,000.

The production of a car is only a small percentage of the overall sale price, everything from the first discussion in a boardroom a few years earlier, to market research, R&D, Design, Trials, setting up and factory, transportation, dealerships, warranty and marketing the end product to the customer costs money.

It's not just as simple as saying the production of this car is £3,000 so we can lease it cheap and still make loads of cash. That's as bad as saying the barrel price is cheap so everyone should pay 5p a litre.

I read a report last year that stated on average it costs Ford £1500 to market every Focus sold and VW £2000 for the Golf. I'll try to dig it out, makes interesting reading.

It's rare people keep cars 10 years, depreciation over three years is more realistic. Anyway which Nissan are you saying is £20k? The Pulsar starts at £9k through a broker and this model is £13,560.

£4.5k to lease a £13.5k car for two years doesn't sound like a good deal at all.

But for many 3 years is unrealistic too. Buying any car to sell at 3 years is foolish(few exceptions). That's why many lease. I always plan around 7 years.
I used the RRP as its the only fair comparison. But as you point out you will probably get more discount on the Nissan than Golf. The Acenta DIG-T 190 but you can probably get it cheaper form a broker.

No it's not the greatest lease deal and never voted it hot. The whole point was the guy who said who would buy this over a Golf. My point that you have added to is that you won't be going head to head with a Golf.

I don't think 3 years is unrealistic, you've got to remember the majority of cars in the UK are purchased on finance. Mostly based on 2-4 years, when that time is up, a lot of punters just trade for the next car on finance, never actually owning the car.

That's one of the reasons personal leasing to getting so popular, people are getting clued up to just paying the depreciation over equal manageable payments.

I'm with you on keeping cars longer, my previous car I had since new, kept it 5 1/2 years, now my wife has it (still under warranty). Couple of cars previously I also keep for almost 5 years. If I'm happy with a car I tend to keep them.

I'm not a fan of the Pulsar, and my reply was just pointing out that many manufacturers offer a hatchback and an SUV in the C segment.

However, you do know Golf's are crap, don't you?

I wouldn't say they are crap like you describe. Every car has its problems, it has good show room and driveway appeal. But utimately there isn't an engine in the VAG group in recent history that has proved to be reliable.

I personally drive Japanese because they know how to engineer a reliable car. It won't impress the German fanboy brigade but you can't argue with an idiot.

I agree, but hats off to VAG's marketing department as they manage to sell below average reliability cars for above average prices. Then when you do take it for repair they charge much more than rival brands to fix it. As a business strategy that's pretty amazing, however what's even more amazing is that the customers can't see it and keep on coming!

100% bang on mate, couldn't have put it better myself!

​what's the mpg?

G​uess you don't know the price difference among Golf and Pulsar...

They gave my old dad a right run-around with a warranty claim on a Passat. In the end he sent a recorded letter to Martin Winterkorn in Germany and they did eventually sort it out, but that shouldn't really be necessary.

I used to have a Polo and from new it wouldn't start properly in the cold (temp sender) but they didn't do anything until eventually a recall was issued. By that point the combustion chambers must've been a mess because it always ran a little rough at full load on standard fuel, sweet as a nut on Optimax (as it was then) so I'm guessing something was wrong in there.

Dieselgate has had no effect on my view of VW because I wasn't going to buy another one anyway. Oh, and they want more cash for the same spec. I remember looking at the Tiguan a couple of years ago and they wanted £250 for cruise control, similar for the Q3.
I thought errrr, is that what a "premium" brand is? You pay extra for stuff that's standard in cheap cars from 10 years ago? Lol.

I do, a pulsar is more expensive.

If I buy the cheapest pulsar and cheapest golf and run them for 3 years the depreciation on the pulsar will exceed the golf premium.

If you own a pulsar or believe buying or leasing a pulsar is a great deal then go for it. It's your decision. It's just a bad decision.

It depends what you want in a car. You would have to pay mega money to get a golf with a diesel engine and all the driver aids this one has. Yes the golf will hold its value better, but you will lose over 4k in depreciation over the same period

I personally don't think the pulsar is THE best choice but it is a lot higher up my list than a Golf. I prefer a car with decent reliability and decent specifications as standard (a cheap golf has nothing inside). I also prefer to be a little different and purchase a car that is a little less common.

I shall soon be trading my Jaguar XF in which has been a fine car indeed. In 45,000 miles it has been faultless. I am unsure what to buy as yet but keep being drawn to the Lexus IS and the Mazda CX-5 both of which are much more reliable than a Passat/Tiguan (closest VW equivalent?) and £ for £ you get a lot more car, with excellent standard specifications.

May as well buy a Sandero if you are just choosing a car on price.

​sure they are great cars.
it's just like buying a Diesel Jeans than a NEXT jeans paying extra for brand/badge if that's what you prefer its your choice may be you are a rich man.

I wouldn't buy one myself, like my comforts too much. Just making a point.
At what level do you compromise at?

Think I am going to order one. not the quickest of cars but I dont need it to be as I drive A roads all the time and it is quite refined and a nice cabin

​at same level where thousands of people driving Dacia in many countries.

Life's too short. I'll stick with my Audi.

Not an S-Line then! :laughing:

God no, I like my spine and teeth intact.

On a sensible note I had a test drive in the 1.5 DCi & was impressed with the speed and especially the space in the car. Loads of leg space front & back & felt really comfortable. Didn't go for it in the end but was very close ...

Went for a Hyundai I30 in the end on a PCP deal, which I do appreciate excludes me from contributing to a car debate :wink:

My order for it was accepted today. I was also pleasantly surprised. it wont win any races but it is roomy and comfortable and full of tech so will be a good car for the next couple of years. I like the i30 as well.

Good on ya. It took me ages to decide what to go for. Which level did you go for?

I actually thought the acceleration was pretty good. The dealership let us have the car for an hour with no chaperone so put it through its paces

Here is the deal I posted re PCP:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lloyds-car-finance-pcp-apr-4-2-2412778?p=27576983

Went for the deal on here so n-connecta. Liked the tekna but it was too much and not a lot of extras

Enjoy the new wheels, get mine at the weekend

got an appointment with the dealer tomorrow... will they be minded to honour the lease company pricing (id prefer that) or to get this price will i have to go with national vehicle solutions as per this deal if i want this price/deal? any help will be much obliged.

I went to Evans halshaw and asked them to match this deal and they refused. Thus company are very good to deal with however.

I went to Evans halshaw and asked them to match this deal and they refused. Thus company are very good to deal with however.

Did anyone get one one of these? I'm curious as to how the car is, what the true MPG is and how the leasing company is to deal with.

Mine is getting delivered next week so will let you know

Gone up by £10 a month but still taken it.

Got mine at long last yesterday. Car is very well equipped, half leather seats and emergency brake assist are extras I wasn't expecting.

The car is nippy for a small engine and has great economy.

No mats included which was a small downside but had half a tank of fuel which was a bonus.

Very happy with it