There's certainly someone around here who should be embarrassed.

Any vegetarian that has the audacity to complain about the lack of choice should be embarrassed. Your choice not to eat meat and M&S's choice to cater for the majority!

I'm not veggie but my partner is so I empathise with how boring and repetitive the veggie offer is.
M&S have the same veggie options in this deal each time. Often stores don't even stock either vege option. They sell some tasty veggie options outside of this deal, so it's rather a shame that they don't include them. At least Tesco and Asda vary it a bit and have much nicer options. Once M&S improve their options we'll return, in the meantime we're going elsewhere.
Gave up on them years ago as far as clothing is concerned.

If this is running to cover Mothering Sunday, it would have been better if they had repeated a similar £20 deal they ran for Valentine's Day. Better quality wine, and food choice. I for one wish they would do the £20 deal on a regular basis, rather than the uninspiring £10 deals.:neutral_face:

cheers op
think its simple value
bottle plonk , say the value may be a fiver
all the rest for a fiver
its a nice do
cheaper than a takeout and includes the booze

Any vegetarian that has the audacity to complain about the lack of choice should be embarrassed. Your choice not to eat meat and M&S's choice to cater for the majority!

Thank you for posting must agree it's a little hum drum but still a good deal as it includes the wine

The alcohol alone is worth £7-£8 so whole deal is a bargain, that's why the hype!

There also appears be a lack of choice for people with certain food allergies too.

what is tenderstem butternut ? should that be broccoli ?

That's my dinner sorted for Saturday. Thanks!

2 veggie choices is better than normal though. Hot deal.

Lovely thx op :smiley:

Disagree - £4 only buys utter squiff nowadays but Marks £5-6 stuff is usually entirely drinkable.

Most expensive combination (?):
Seabass and caper butter or the tuna
Mediterranean vegetables
Cheese(?) or maybe Key lime tray bake
Daniel’s Drift shiraz cabernet Sauvignon

Asda 6 for £25 (£4.17 per bottle in Scotland) offers are far better value than anything I've sampled from M&S. The only good thing I've found with M&S wine is the double refund.

If this is running to cover Mothering Sunday, it would have been better if they had repeated a similar £20 deal they ran for Valentine's Day. Better quality wine, and food choice. I for one wish they would do the £20 deal on a regular basis, rather than the uninspiring £10 deals.:neutral_face:

You sound a tad bitter dear, maybe a sausage would do you the power of good and calm you down? The key word (for me) in your little rant was 'choice'.....ie. your 'choice' to eat just vegetables and M&S's 'choice' not to pander to the tree huggers. If you don't like the choice just go to a fruit & veg stall in your local market and knock up something tasty, get a bottle of plonk for about £6 plus an apple for pudding and there's your Dine In For Two fir a tenner.....thank me later. Hot Deal OP, plenty of choice for normal folk - thanks for posting.

I'm not veggie but my partner is so I empathise with how boring and repetitive the veggie offer is.
M&S have the same veggie options in this deal each time. Often stores don't even stock either vege option. They sell some tasty veggie options outside of this deal, so it's rather a shame that they don't include them. At least Tesco and Asda vary it a bit and have much nicer options. Once M&S improve their options we'll return, in the meantime we're going elsewhere.
Gave up on them years ago as far as clothing is concerned.

Them garlic breads sound heavy :wink:

I agree, the wine is good quality

others have tried to imitatebut failed .still the best

You do need to remember that M&S apparently avoid the VAT on the wine on this deal by recording it as 'free' so a bottle at £5 normally only stands M&S at £4

The Mexican lime and lemongrass is like dishwater, not as deliciously exotic as it sounds!!

Your simplistic and thinly veiled excuse of an attack on people who dare to think differently to you is missing an important fact. Whilst a meat eater can eat vegetarian food, a vegetarian cannot eat meat. And there are plenty of examples of vegetarian food that would be happily eaten by a meat eater. I've been to various vegetarian restaurants with meat eaters and heard nothing but strong praise. If you think you must have meat to have a delicious meal, then that just highlights your lack of imagination or experience. A few better options than the bog standard squash and pasta could benefit everyone. And considering meat is more expensive, it would be in the interest of M&S to get the higher profit margins.

These M&S deals are beginning to look very tired these days. I have to agree with those who say the wine is poor. Once upon a time they used to have quite a choice of semi decent stuff but generally now it is poor.

And you sound more than a tad patronising not to mention ignorant and provocative.

I thought they will do a £20 deal because of Mother's Day at the weekend. Nice at last something I like in the mail and desert !

You may well be correct, but I would be very surprised if HMRC would actually let them get away with that. VATman is normally pretty determined to get his pound of flesh. You may not see it on the receipt, but I would expect that M&S have to account for it.

Years ago I used to work in the Tea and Coffee industry and we got our wrists slapped for selling decorative caddys of Tea with no VAT. HMRC argued that we should be charging an element of VAT for the value of the caddy, Tea of course being exempt. We had to agree a notional VAT rate to account fo the caddy's value. Things may have changed since then though.

Heat OP, just need a partner to share it with now.

Thanks for posting! Had been wondering when this would appear again. Even signed up for the text alerts for an update when it was back on but seems they never sent me any nor emails! <3

Back again?! Wow!!

Awesome! It's on so rarely!

Ive decided from now on im only going to eat dog ****, should they have to put that as one of the choices? or maybe as a few choices maybe say one with a hint of lemon and herbs? maybe a dog **** stroganoff?

You cant complain in life when you have made the decision.

Red Devil isn't being picky like you though :neutral_face: picky people get less options to choose from thats life and it because they are picky.

Why mention Munich 58? Not acceptable. Need a dislike button on here

Love the raspberry panna cotta. Heat from me

All the wine critics say wine is worst quality treated with about 50 chemicals to make it taste good, you get what you pay for. Wine is not required to label these chemicals unlike for other drinks. See here and other web sites http://www.wired.com/2014/04/how-to-make-wine-taste-good/
and
http://winefolly.com/review/wine-additives/

Send your veggies recipes as suggestions and M&S could order them from their suppliers (food factories just train migrant workers on working tax credit to cook these happily)

Who else thought it said £1?

You also made a decision. A decision to eat meat. The bulk of the complaint is not so much only 2 options, but the extremely bland and boring options. Another argument would be to offer some interesting vegetarian options that would also appeal to meat eaters. Something to expand the healthier options, show a bit of social responsibility. Maybe help reduce England from being the fattest country in Europe.

It isn't currently, but then it is usually the UK figures that are included, and the UK is not top of the list of countries with the most obese population in Europe, nor projected to be by 2030.

What a lot of moaning, there is only one main we would eat on this menu, and we aren't vegetarian. More often than not this option isn't in the meal deal. We don't moan about it, we just don't buy it.

Sparks customers have option to upgrade to Oudinot champagne meal deal for £20, includes the dry brut and medium dry. If you're in the market for bubbly anyway, you could look at it as buy discounted champagne and get a free meal...

What source are you using? Says here a UN report in 2013 placed UK at the top, with 24.9% obesity: "The UK has the highest level of obesity in Western Europe" - source

I was using the info from WHO. source

Can I clarify are you talking about England and Western Europe or the UK and Europe or some combination of those?

Maybe the word bickering would be more apt, I was expecting to see people recommending which mains were nice or worth trying, not about what should or should not be on there or who they should or should not cater to as it's not relevant. Nobody has previously mentioned that you can upgrade to the champagne with a sparks card which makes this deal very hot.

I love the £10 offer. There are always delicious options with everything. I think M & S do very well with their choices. I am a pescatarian and we have no problems with the choice. The good wines are just the cherry on the top!

I would say that's a fair assessment. I also didn't know about the Champagne offer. Should probably add it to the description.

I don't eat desserts so I think it's disgusting that there isn't an option without dessert and extra added MEAT :stuck_out_tongue:

So I don't buy these deals. Simple

I'm really surprised that m&s didn't hike up the price as it's mother's day. So win win for the mummies!!

20% off dessert menu if you have this as a sparks offer. My dine in came to £9.41.

just get a takeaway veggie dish called 'gujarati thali' from an indian sweet mart or restaurant. about £3.50 to £4.00.
you will get value for money if you like medium spicy food. thali is best eaten with your fingers. post your comments on vegetarian food here.

I fail to see why some people on here feel the need to post negative/insulting comments. Is it really that deep??

Popped into M&S this lunchtime, don't know if they were still setting it up but I went to the two-three usual fridge ends where it is and got very excited when I saw gastropub beef wellington only to realise that was a different offer and the meal deal was only in one fridge. I didn't have much time or the inclination to fight to get to the fridge so left it this time, hope they do some changes to improve this deal because a lot of the time we do enjoy it.

Vegetarians CAN eat meat, they choose not to. Meat eaters CAN eat vegetarian, but I for one choose not to, I like meat and fish!
If you are vegetarian, why bother with the three course deal, just buy three side dishes and a dessert = cheaper.
And before you moan about the cost of a ready prepared portion of veg, YOU ALSO have the choice of buying veg and preparing it yourself - because we live in a democracy and you can eat whatever diet you choose.
Please note; this is not 'a thinly disguised attack on vegetarians', I am merely pointing out your choices!

I would like to thank the person who posted this deal and prefer to appreciate his/her efforts rather use this medium as a 'whinge-fest'.
I don't often eat ready meals but every now and then I CHOOSE to do so, and M&S deals fit the bill.......Heat added

Hoorah for common sense at last.

Your argument fell down in the first few words. A vegetarian who chooses to eat meat, is not a vegetarian. By definition. They also have, possibly many, reasons not to. There is nothing about eating meat that prohibits them from eating something vegetarian. That is not true the other way around. The only "whinging" is from people who decry complaining, when no one actually is here, and then get their weak arguments taken apart. I'm guessing the irony is lost.
And no one was moaning about the cost of prepared veg!? What is it with people jumping in with "Don't complain about X!" to an empty silent room.. Sounds like you're trying to set yourself up for a rant. Though it is quite obvious you are trolling. Try using a less blatant troll account next time. One which you don't come out of your cave once every 4 months to post.

Suggesting that people who choose a vegetarian lifestyle are 'picky' just makes you sound like an idiot. I'd engage in a battle of wits with you about it but it doesn't seem fair to wage war on the unarmed.

What a lot of fatuous nonsense is being spouted here!

The vast majority of Vegetarians are following a lifestyle, their conscience, or beliefs, all of which are a matter of CHOICE. Some have restricted dietary regimes on medical grounds, but for most it is a matter of CHOICE. Of course a vegetarian who CHOOSES to eat meat is not following a Vegetarian diet, but that is their CHOICE.

I emphasise CHOICE because that is what some posters seem to be ignoring, presumably because of their own chosen preferences.

Any way there has been too much senseless bitching in this thread so I would like to address the original deal. It would appear that about 12% of the UK population are Vegetarians, so to offer more than two Vegetarian options out of sixteen would be disproportionate and disadvantageous towards the non-Vegetarians. More than 99% of M&S customers could eat any any of the offered dishes, just because some CHOOSE not to is no cause for a riot. They are quite entitled to avoid them (it is called free CHOICE). I am not particularly keen on fish, but I am not going to whine about the 25% of dishes that are fish based, again that is my CHOICE.

Too many bleeding heart minorities, when Vegetarians rule the world I am sure M&S will revise their offer. Until then just eat what you CHOOSE, and allow the rest of us (the majority) to do the same.

Brilliant thanks I love these dine ins

People seem to ignore the fact that stores stock what sells not what is left on the shelf and I am quite sure that if more veggie dishes sold they would put them on the shelf.

speaking about ready-made meals why don't the supermarkets have a variety of vegetarian ready-made dishes. if only supermarkets buyers can look for and offer contracts to vegetarian chefs.
and speaking about ready-made meat dishes i have yet to find a supermarket which sells one with pork in it. i have come across beef shepherds/cottage pie chilli con carne fish english breakfast chicken chow mein but never ever a pork dish. does anyone know why supermarkets do not have pork ready-made meals?

"Meat eaters can eat non-meat dishes" - True, but it is equally true that almost all Vegetarians can eat meat dishes, but they choose not to.

"There's little reason for M&S to not offer more options." - One reason is that most of their customers, would prefer to eat meat dishes.

Why should M&S pander to a minority? They are a commercial organisation and are serving the needs and requirements of the majority of their customers. They have made a reasonably proportionate concession to the minority that have chosen a vegetarian lifestyle.

It seems to me that a lack of meat protein can limit the ability to understand cogent argument. I can respect vegetarianism, but followers of that minority lifestyle should accept that they have chosen a lifestyle that is going to conflict with the requirements of the vast majority, and they really shouldn't complain if they find their options restricted. I will defend your right to only eat vegetables, but don't expect me to accept any pressure to impose that lifestyle on others. Free choice (so long as it does not harm others) is fine, forcing something on others is not.

Vegetarians *can't* eat meant. By definition you would not be a vegetarian then. This has been stated many times already. It is a contradiction in terms and completely illogical. And again, eating meat is a choice. Why are these two facts so hard to understand that they needing repeating so much? Using counter argument to drive the point home. "I'm a vegetarian who eats meat", and "I eat meat, but not by choice". Do those statements make any sense? Is someone physically forcing meat down your throat?

Offering more options would not "conflict" with meat eaters "requirements". It would do nothing but increase the appeal of the offer for 12% of the population. The only reason I can think of is that vegetarians are usually prepared to pay extra, as most healthier foods are at a premium (usually without good reason), so M&S probably think they can continue to milk this demographic and don't have as much need to offer deals to drive sales.

Lastly you seem to have gone off the rails at the end, taking this personally for some bizarre reason.. "Don't expect me". Who is expecting you!? No one knows who you are, or frankly cares. Nor does anyone about anyone else here. This is about a company. Like many (here too), you seem to have what is an all too common attitude that you take issue with anyone getting any kind of advantage in life that doesn't also benefit you, as you feel that you are somehow personally disadvantaged as a result. When in reality it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Why not be happy that others can have a easier/happier life? Wouldn't that be a concept! If someone asked for and received a better gluten range, my response wouldn't be "I'm not gluten intolerant, stop forcing it on me!". My reaction would be "Good for you".

So you are saying that if in the position were the only option was meat, i.e in a foreign outpost prison, a vegetarian would rather starve to death than eat a bit of cow ? And having worked in the food distribution trade I stand by my post #67. And yes traders do want to sell more profit per meter of shelf space that's what they are in business for and if M&S find that selling meat products is more favourable to this end they will sell meat products. I don't know why you are trying to get HUKD's posters to do something about it, have you thought of complaining to M&S who seem the favourites to give you the facts on their decision.
To me you seem like someone who like your name suggests is a bit to explosive.

That would be a choice to not be vegetarian, for your own survival.
Yes, it is about profit. I agree. That's what I meant about M&S milking demographics. Hence why some vegetarians are annoyed by the fact M&S are doing this. Yes that's the capitalist system we live in, but doesn't mean it's fair.
And who is trying to get HUKD posters to do something about!? Who said that?? Seriously, half the posts in here are explaining why people are wrong about countering arguments which no one has even said! If I seem explosive its because I get exasperated by repeated random arguments being brought in with no consideration for any relevancy. It's like people have had these arguments in the past and just want to come in and get the last word on it in some public forum.

Also exclusively for Sparks members, choose Champagne for an extra £10

I'm too bored with you to answer your ludicrous arguments other than to say:
So anybody that disagrees with you is a troll? Sorry, I have a different point of view, I'm allowed to express it and I did so, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY!
You are behaving like a troll because you have come onto a thread about a meat product with the sole intention of trolling meat eaters. Now grow up, get over yourself and move on the keyboard warrior.End of.

An account 4 years old and 14 comments? Try and be a little less blatant.
A troll is someone who instigates needless argument without provocation. I have only responded to the ridiculous statements put forth here by pointing out the flaws in their reasoning. Though I do admit it is quite fun when people get so riled up they can't put a structured argument together and just spew ad hominem.

OP I voted your deal HOT by the way just get sick of patronising meat eaters preaching. They can be found on most veggie deals on here!

That is an ad hominem statement if I ever saw one.

Many of your responses have descended to semantic wordplay. I think most people would understand that a Vegetarian who eats meat is no longer a Vegetarian, but they could always return to Vegetarianism.

With the exception of those with medically restricted dietary requirements, Vegetarianism is a chosen lifestyle and there is no reason for a Vegetarian not to eat meat, other than the fact they they have chosen not to.

A 10-year Vegetarian can decide one day that they want bacon for breakfast, they can do that, it is their choice. For that brief period they are not a Vegetarian, however they can return to their Vegetarian lifestyle at any time, should they choose to. This is not like excommunication.

So most Vegetarians can eat meat, they will cease to be Vegetarians at that moment, but they can eat meat. They are Vegetarians until they take that first bite. Perhaps I need to explain what 'can' means, it means 'able to' so Vegetarians are able to eat meat.

No you have completely ignored their valid reasoning, either because it conflicts with your own beliefs/prejudices, or simply to troll.

Vegetarianism is a set of beliefs, it is more than the physical act of putting food into your mouth. That meat is not an appropriate form of food (for them). That would not change unless substantial new information comes to light. If they believed they could eat meat at any moment, they wouldn't be vegetarian. To say someone could be vegetarian, eat meat, not be vegetarian whilst eating the meat, then immediately become vegetarian again the moment they've finished eating the meat. That is not a vegetarian. That is someone on a diet. That would be like me saying I'm Christian on tuesday, Buddist on wednesday, Muslim on thursday, and a Satanist the rest of the week. Or "I don't drink, except when I do".

Btw, love how you say pointing out an account that posts once every 4 months as suspect is "ad hominen", then finish your post saying I'm prejudice or trolling.. Always love a bit of good irony.

This is a deal about food, not debating vegetarianism

Yummy did gastro chicken, rosemary potatoes and sparks bubbly. my guest loved it

Thank you bytemaster, perfectly put!

I love irony too......you obviously don't see the irony of coming on to a thread that promotes a meat product, as a vegetarian so that you can **** off meat eaters. There was nothing constructive about any of your postings and you have the hubris to call me a troll.
When I joined HUKD, I must of missed that rule about not being able to post on a thread because I hadn't posted enough comments on a thread............hmm (PS that's called sarcasm). Now go away you disgusting little troll, go bother some plant eaters.

You obviously didn't bother reading the thread. The discussions were started by people complaining about vegetarians. Not the other way around. It has been people who have been vegetarians for a long time correcting the mistaken ideas about what vegetarianism is, from people who are not vegetarian.
In the vein of irony.. Nothing about my postings were constructive you say. Then complete your post with calling me a troll and to go away.. Much reason, such logic, wow.

Veggie deals never get hot enough to be put on the daily deals list, doesn't that tell you something?

Veggie deals never get hot enough to be put on the daily deals list, doesn't that tell you something?

only about you.

Childish playground response.

DITTO. Now do your home work like a good little boy

Ah DIDUMS.

Does mummy know you're a troll? Soldier? haha grow up.

You don't know the difference.

soon be time for bed mummy's little soldier. Sweet dreams

Here you go soldier boy.
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Most people don't eat meat. So the deal wouldn't interest them personally. Are you surprised? I thought that was common knowledge.

Ramblings of a lunatic.

Nope part of your imaginary army soldier boy. Did you get home work done on time mummy's little soldier?

The Queens soldier actually saving the country for your type to muck it up.

Totally not about holding a gun so you can feel important.

I am important, I don't need a gun.

The wife says different. IMPOTENT

Didn't realise that I had met your wife, only fat ugly wives make me IMPOTENT.

*The year 6 crowd goes wild* "oooOOOOOOOOOoooooohhh!"

PMSL :stuck_out_tongue: You've got to admire his stamina for a little soldier boy he's not doing much shooting, BLESS :stuck_out_tongue: