I have been tracking this since Christmas hoping it would be on offer soon. It's usual price is £149.99 but has been £159.99 for the last few weeks.
It's suitable for outbuildings / garages and a good compact size considering its large capacity.
There's the usual Quidco / TCB cashback around 2%.
The one in this deal is not for use in a cold garage / outbuilding.
- chocci
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deathtrap3000
19 Mar 168#4
Turn it off and leave the lid open during those months.
pibpob to jamgin
20 Mar 164#28
This appears to be about fridge-freezers, which have an extra level of complication.
Cheap and nasty fridge freezers have no independent control of temperature in the fridge and freezer compartments. They have one thermostat, in the fridge compartment, which switches the compressor on and off to cool both fridge and freezer. If the ambient temperature is, say, 20C, the difference between fridge and external temperature is 15 degrees, and the compressor will operate to maintain this. The difference between freezer and should be 38C and the system is designed to keep it that way.
Now, if external temp drops to 10 degrees, there is only a 5 degree difference between that and the fridge, which means that heat only gets in at a third of the rate. The compressor will therefore only operate for a third of the time it did at 20 degrees, to maintain the fridge temperature as before.
However, the difference between outside and freezer temperature has not dropped by the same proportion - it's still 28 degrees, and 28/38 is about 2/3. This means that the compressor should be running about two thirds of the time it did at 20 degrees. Result: temperature rises in freezer.
This is why fridge-freezers with one thermostat are a nasty compromise. They will use more energy than necessary to maintain a maximum freezer temperature over a range of room temperatures, and the temperature in the freezer will vary. Spend a few quid more on a proper one.
Chest freezers such as this do not have this complication.
EMtart
19 Mar 163#6
I recently bought a freezer for our garage and after much searching the only ones I found suitable are Beko.
This taken from their product description
"Beko's innovative Freezer Guard technology ensures that this appliance will continue to function if the ambient temperature outside the freezer falls below zero or even as low as -15° Celsius, making this an ideal choice of appliance for locations such as garages or outbuildings"
jonthed to Deedie
20 Mar 163#18
ah, well in that case, here you go...
You can still use it all year round, but it will use more electricity in colder or hotter temperatures. The same may well be true for many freezers. There's not much you can do about it, they're just letting you know the efficiency decreases outside of it's optimal operating temperatures.
All comments (36)
Alan66640
19 Mar 16#1
Good find...tempted!!
AndyRoyd
19 Mar 161#2
Quote from user manual: "...This unit can be used in a garage or outbuilding. For optimum energy efficiency the unit should be located within an average room temperature of between 10°C and 43°C. If the room temperature drops below or rises above these temperatures the energy consumption and performance may be affected..."
damadgeruk
19 Mar 162#3
Which means it is unsuitable for use in a garage or outbuilding for 6 months of the year here(central Scotland).
deathtrap3000
19 Mar 168#4
Turn it off and leave the lid open during those months.
Deedie
19 Mar 16#5
surely if you were able to do without this for 6 months of the year, then you don't really need it in the first place.
been considering one of these for the garage, but no good if I can't use it half the year.
EMtart
19 Mar 163#6
I recently bought a freezer for our garage and after much searching the only ones I found suitable are Beko.
This taken from their product description
"Beko's innovative Freezer Guard technology ensures that this appliance will continue to function if the ambient temperature outside the freezer falls below zero or even as low as -15° Celsius, making this an ideal choice of appliance for locations such as garages or outbuildings"
spicerboy
19 Mar 16#7
I have a norfrost been in my shed for at least 5 years never any problems
preid779
19 Mar 16#8
doesn't say it cannot be used in those conditions.
GAVINLEWISHUKD to preid779
19 Mar 16#9
Exactly just means it won't meet its EU energy specifications.
jonthed
19 Mar 161#10
you're missing the point, when it's cold enough naturally, you don't need the freezer to be on.
Istanbul_Kop
19 Mar 161#11
Deedie
20 Mar 16#12
so if its 9 degrees Celsius in my garage, I can just turn the freezer off and leave the lid open, and the food will be fine!
Deedie
20 Mar 16#13
a written explanation would be more helpful for me.
Tony Harrison
20 Mar 162#14
Deedie
20 Mar 16#15
lol
Duelling Duck
20 Mar 16#16
My girlfriend has a 142 litre chest, and sadly she's cold enough already. :disappointed:
Deedie
20 Mar 161#17
like I said, I'm looking for one of these for my garage. I'm in Scotland, so gets cold.
so I'm looking for an explanation on how this would work for me through out the year. for instance its been around 6 degrees this week, so what should I be doing with this during this type of weather.
I'm aware that when its a few degrees below zero, I can turn it off. got a fridge in the garage for my homebrew that I only use in the summer months. its the in between below zero and 10degrees temperature I'm interested in
sorry if its a dumb question (as has been implied), I'm trying to understand the finer details of this, as I do with pretty much everything else I buy.
jonthed to Deedie
20 Mar 163#18
ah, well in that case, here you go...
You can still use it all year round, but it will use more electricity in colder or hotter temperatures. The same may well be true for many freezers. There's not much you can do about it, they're just letting you know the efficiency decreases outside of it's optimal operating temperatures.
sgandtg to Deedie
20 Mar 16#19
Based on comment from Andyroid, it'll still work, just won't be as energy efficient. Can't see how it would use more electricity but, even if it did, don't think you'd notice.
iibdii
20 Mar 16#20
very temptef
FREEZIN WOLF to iibdii
20 Mar 16#25
Did you think you were really really interested but then ran out of enthusiasm just as quickly?
This appears to be about fridge-freezers, which have an extra level of complication.
Cheap and nasty fridge freezers have no independent control of temperature in the fridge and freezer compartments. They have one thermostat, in the fridge compartment, which switches the compressor on and off to cool both fridge and freezer. If the ambient temperature is, say, 20C, the difference between fridge and external temperature is 15 degrees, and the compressor will operate to maintain this. The difference between freezer and should be 38C and the system is designed to keep it that way.
Now, if external temp drops to 10 degrees, there is only a 5 degree difference between that and the fridge, which means that heat only gets in at a third of the rate. The compressor will therefore only operate for a third of the time it did at 20 degrees, to maintain the fridge temperature as before.
However, the difference between outside and freezer temperature has not dropped by the same proportion - it's still 28 degrees, and 28/38 is about 2/3. This means that the compressor should be running about two thirds of the time it did at 20 degrees. Result: temperature rises in freezer.
This is why fridge-freezers with one thermostat are a nasty compromise. They will use more energy than necessary to maintain a maximum freezer temperature over a range of room temperatures, and the temperature in the freezer will vary. Spend a few quid more on a proper one.
Chest freezers such as this do not have this complication.
The one in this deal is not for use in a cold garage / outbuilding.
chocci
20 Mar 16#23
Of course you do. Unless the air temperature is -18c or below
chocci
20 Mar 162#24
Fridge and freezers heat gas to produce cold temperatures. If the environment is colder then more electricity is required.
FREEZIN WOLF
20 Mar 161#26
I've already got a freezer for the chests.
Are these suitable for heads, arms and legs?
mymymy
20 Mar 16#27
I've had my cheapo chest freezer in my outhouse for eons, along with my washer and dryer.
The freezer creates warmth at the back where the workings are and I was told that this kept the freezer working properly.
Monkey nuts 2
20 Mar 16#29
Really need one but can't while the shed roof is leaking. Good find OP.
deeky
20 Mar 161#30
I think a lot of people are getting confused. All this low/ambient temperature talk is mainly aimed at where fridge/freezers are left in outbuildings. Fridges usually keep the temperature at about 4 degrees, and when the ambient temperature is below that, the fridge can turn itself off. The problem is that most fridge/freezers run off the same motor so say the fridge turns off at 3 degrees, then so does the freezer, resulting in the freezer contents defrosting. I can't think of the name of the technology off the top of my head but I think that fridge freezers which are suitable for outside usually have 2 separate motors.
A freezer is different as it doesn't matter if the ambient temp drops below the regular temperature of the freezer, so I'd say yes, any dedicated freezer is ok for outside, it's just fridge/freezers which can be problematic.
Aah, I see pipbob already said that :laughing:
jamgin
20 Mar 161#31
I know about the single thermostat issue for fridge/freezers.
This deal is for a freezer. There is still a problem with freezers when the ambient temperature drops too low as the compressor will not work properly if at all. That's why freezers designed to work below 0c ambient have some mechanism to keep the compressor warm.
mistermoneysaver
20 Mar 16#32
I have this freezer in a conservatory. Had it 2 years. No issues other than the power on led is faint.
PhoneBrains
20 Mar 162#33
Thanks for posting bought this model last week for £159 for delivery tomorrow. Went into Currys today and they refunded me £30 under their price promise. Well spotted.
paggy123
22 Mar 16#34
After reading all the above comments i am not sure if i should buy this to be kept in my garage....? can someone please throw light :disappointed:
damadgeruk to paggy123
22 Mar 16#35
If your garage drops below 10C this may not keep the contents at a suitable temperature and may use an excessive amount of energy trying to do so.
Opening post
It's suitable for outbuildings / garages and a good compact size considering its large capacity.
There's the usual Quidco / TCB cashback around 2%.
The one in this deal is not for use in a cold garage / outbuilding.
- chocci
Top comments
Cheap and nasty fridge freezers have no independent control of temperature in the fridge and freezer compartments. They have one thermostat, in the fridge compartment, which switches the compressor on and off to cool both fridge and freezer. If the ambient temperature is, say, 20C, the difference between fridge and external temperature is 15 degrees, and the compressor will operate to maintain this. The difference between freezer and should be 38C and the system is designed to keep it that way.
Now, if external temp drops to 10 degrees, there is only a 5 degree difference between that and the fridge, which means that heat only gets in at a third of the rate. The compressor will therefore only operate for a third of the time it did at 20 degrees, to maintain the fridge temperature as before.
However, the difference between outside and freezer temperature has not dropped by the same proportion - it's still 28 degrees, and 28/38 is about 2/3. This means that the compressor should be running about two thirds of the time it did at 20 degrees. Result: temperature rises in freezer.
This is why fridge-freezers with one thermostat are a nasty compromise. They will use more energy than necessary to maintain a maximum freezer temperature over a range of room temperatures, and the temperature in the freezer will vary. Spend a few quid more on a proper one.
Chest freezers such as this do not have this complication.
This taken from their product description
"Beko's innovative Freezer Guard technology ensures that this appliance will continue to function if the ambient temperature outside the freezer falls below zero or even as low as -15° Celsius, making this an ideal choice of appliance for locations such as garages or outbuildings"
You can still use it all year round, but it will use more electricity in colder or hotter temperatures. The same may well be true for many freezers. There's not much you can do about it, they're just letting you know the efficiency decreases outside of it's optimal operating temperatures.
All comments (36)
been considering one of these for the garage, but no good if I can't use it half the year.
This taken from their product description
"Beko's innovative Freezer Guard technology ensures that this appliance will continue to function if the ambient temperature outside the freezer falls below zero or even as low as -15° Celsius, making this an ideal choice of appliance for locations such as garages or outbuildings"
so I'm looking for an explanation on how this would work for me through out the year. for instance its been around 6 degrees this week, so what should I be doing with this during this type of weather.
I'm aware that when its a few degrees below zero, I can turn it off. got a fridge in the garage for my homebrew that I only use in the summer months. its the in between below zero and 10degrees temperature I'm interested in
sorry if its a dumb question (as has been implied), I'm trying to understand the finer details of this, as I do with pretty much everything else I buy.
You can still use it all year round, but it will use more electricity in colder or hotter temperatures. The same may well be true for many freezers. There's not much you can do about it, they're just letting you know the efficiency decreases outside of it's optimal operating temperatures.
Beko freezer for garage
Cheap and nasty fridge freezers have no independent control of temperature in the fridge and freezer compartments. They have one thermostat, in the fridge compartment, which switches the compressor on and off to cool both fridge and freezer. If the ambient temperature is, say, 20C, the difference between fridge and external temperature is 15 degrees, and the compressor will operate to maintain this. The difference between freezer and should be 38C and the system is designed to keep it that way.
Now, if external temp drops to 10 degrees, there is only a 5 degree difference between that and the fridge, which means that heat only gets in at a third of the rate. The compressor will therefore only operate for a third of the time it did at 20 degrees, to maintain the fridge temperature as before.
However, the difference between outside and freezer temperature has not dropped by the same proportion - it's still 28 degrees, and 28/38 is about 2/3. This means that the compressor should be running about two thirds of the time it did at 20 degrees. Result: temperature rises in freezer.
This is why fridge-freezers with one thermostat are a nasty compromise. They will use more energy than necessary to maintain a maximum freezer temperature over a range of room temperatures, and the temperature in the freezer will vary. Spend a few quid more on a proper one.
Chest freezers such as this do not have this complication.
garage chest freezer
The one in this deal is not for use in a cold garage / outbuilding.
Are these suitable for heads, arms and legs?
The freezer creates warmth at the back where the workings are and I was told that this kept the freezer working properly.
A freezer is different as it doesn't matter if the ambient temp drops below the regular temperature of the freezer, so I'd say yes, any dedicated freezer is ok for outside, it's just fridge/freezers which can be problematic.
Aah, I see pipbob already said that :laughing:
This deal is for a freezer. There is still a problem with freezers when the ambient temperature drops too low as the compressor will not work properly if at all. That's why freezers designed to work below 0c ambient have some mechanism to keep the compressor warm.