Id are awful. That's probably why

4G no indoor coverage... 3G no indoor coverage.. 2G done!

I'm in ID and not had a problem, i was lucky i got on to there initial promotion 2000 mins & unlimited data for 20 bucks pm. Id piggy backs on 3's network which is good where i live so it was a simple choice. Been with them 1.5 years and never called customer services, their app is excellent 100x better than 3.

On the other hand I put my mum on Life about 4 months ago, as they had the best signal where she lived and there as a cheap deal on uswitch. They didnt have a app and the website information was out of date so she had to call to port her number etc. Great service over the phone.
For me Id is beter cause i dont have to speak to anyone and can do it all myself, but if you like taking to people go for life..... At the end of the day it all comes down to signal so go down the supermarket and buy a load of £1 sim card stick them in your phone and see which one works best.
Giffgaff = o2
life = EE
ID = 3

Life allow tethering - ID don't

Why not the ID Mobile deal for £10 a month instead?

Id are awful. That's probably why

How can you compare 500 mins to 3000 mins????

I looked at ID but the reviews and comments about their customer service put me off. I have 2 sims and dealt with Life for porting and switching deals. Answer phone right away and very good to deal with. Switching deal was simple but apparently with ID it's a nightmare and you have to get a new sim.

id mobile are usless. good deal

I'm in ID and not had a problem, i was lucky i got on to there initial promotion 2000 mins & unlimited data for 20 bucks pm. Id piggy backs on 3's network which is good where i live so it was a simple choice. Been with them 1.5 years and never called customer services, their app is excellent 100x better than 3.

On the other hand I put my mum on Life about 4 months ago, as they had the best signal where she lived and there as a cheap deal on uswitch. They didnt have a app and the website information was out of date so she had to call to port her number etc. Great service over the phone.
For me Id is beter cause i dont have to speak to anyone and can do it all myself, but if you like taking to people go for life..... At the end of the day it all comes down to signal so go down the supermarket and buy a load of £1 sim card stick them in your phone and see which one works best.
Giffgaff = o2
life = EE
ID = 3

2ND CLASS SERVICE..3G ONLY..

even if the service is the red carpet treatment how often do you actually need to call these people......and the have to accommodate you anyway it's not as if they can refuse you as a customer.

The 3g is very good I don't see the snobbery around 4g the 3g is faster than a lot of people's home broadband and that's a bad thing apparently. what exactly do you need 4g for that a good 3g connection won't do.........

Life allow tethering - ID don't

With Life mobile - would recommend

4G no indoor coverage... 3G no indoor coverage.. 2G done!

Obviously a salesman would say that... Virgin mobilenhave been saying soon for the last 2 years

It's a shame about broadbandchoices. I was under the impression they were independent and objective unlike Moneysupermarket, uSwitch and all the rest - until they gave the game away with their "exclusive" deals. I wonder if there are any comparison sites left that just want to help people as opposed to just offer faux 'help' for profit and commission.

Just had this PM - is it legit?
Dear friend,

This is Selectec Gmbh, a leading international e-commerce marketplace based in China.

We would like to know if you are interested in taking a free trial of our 10,000mAh Ultra Thin Portable Charger Power Bank? Link: http://****/cDhGi9, if yes, a free sample will be arranged ASAP.
Meanwhile, if the item satisfies you, can you post a deal for us?
Looking forward to hearing from you.

:confused: ??

20Mb/s over 3G? That's pretty impressive.

I've had those sort of messages before. Not on HUKD, but through my emails directly. Never replied to them if I'm honest.

Just checked again and it was just under 15 Mb/S

Common sense ought to tell you that if you've a choice of 4G and 3G you're going to get a better service overall than when you can only resort to 3G, everything else being equal.

Yes I agree. I didn't want to get into the 3G/4G debate. I think this deal offers good value for money and thought the comment was a blatant attempt at trolling.

Thanks anyway

Signed up to the 6GB (3G only) 13.95 tarriff. No problem with the company in terms of customer service, little waiting times on phone, Happy sounding CS reps willing to help.

As its a 30 day rolling contract i happy with that till something better comes along but i very much doubt they will launch 4G services on their 30 day plans with tethering at those prices as they are owned by EE/BT who will not what them to be too competitive. Hopefully will be proved wrong on that

Screenshot of speed tethering on laptop so 3G not much of an issue
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That may be your experience, but you can't extrapolate that to everyone, nor into the future. Having access to 4G as well as 3G means you have access to more radio spectrum. When the spectrum gets congested, if you have access to more of it you have access to more data.

Is it free to call landline numbers etc on life mobile ?

[quote=**** it free to call landline numbers etc on life mobile ?[/quote]Well, up to the allowance you have paid for, yes?

I'm with Life and rate them highly but they've been saying this for as long as they've been around.

When I joined I emailed before and asked about 4G and was told they were rolling it out (I mentioned in the email that I wouldn't join unless I knew 4G was on the way) and I would have it within the next month or two.

I emailed again last week to be told the initial email was a lie but they are 'planning' on it.

I rate their service but they basically lie a lot about 4G.

Have they started 4g?

I didn't even know they had handset contracts. There's no mention on their website.

I'd say don't hold your breath for 4G.

But I pay £6 a month. 3G speeds are around 15mb which is more than enough for my needs and customer service has always been great when I've called.

I was a little irked about being lied to re 4G but for £6 a month I quickly got over it.

If a deal comes up that has 4G for a little more then I'll switch. Until then I'm happy enough.

Not true. ID mobile can't fall back on 2g unlike life mobile. If your driving this can be annoying as many places don't have decent 3g. Also Indoor can be poor if you can't fall back onto 2g

OK, but that's ID Mobile - other operators allow all three. As I said - everything else being equal.

Life <

3G speeds are at 15Mbps around these parts, pick up their phones quickly and ported my number with zero issues not to mention I got one of their bargain £6 deals few months back so excellent value.

Been on LIFE for 2 weeks. had to get onto them SIX TIMES because they shoved my tariff higher than I'd signed up for. SIX TIMES. I'll still have to keep checking. Trust them NOT

Well certainly lots of proof in this thread that EE's annoying Kevin Bacon adverts did the trick in convincing people they need 4G.

Sure, faster is better but 'decent' 3G is absolutely fine for the vast majority of peoples needs, and don't give me the buffer face nonsense!

And its not like 4G actually means you are guaranteed a specific speed, GiffGaff have 4G but its slower than most peoples 3G (or most dial up modems tbh).

They definitely are rolling out 4G shortly for a small additional fee. I was asked to look at the trial plans as a customer to provide feedback as to whether I'd pay extra for it. As it's EE, yes, I would.

Hmm seems ok. But what's all the smart cap nonsense? Do I have to call them up to take it off? Can u even do that? Its not something i want. Good deal otherwise.

yeah I've just read up on the site after feeling lazy. you can't turn it off completely it seems. I might jump in regardless after po mobile halved their data on plans a while ago. Ta

Yeah I tried PO for a bit but left when they decide to change their pricing, shame as I was happy with the service.

Anyone else having problems signing up online? I keep getting a message saying there is an issue with the card payment, even though I've checked I've entered the correct details.

​well you must be using either a rubbish phone or live in a lead lined house......

I've used 3g for ages and very rarely have buffering, only when the signal is low.....which would happen the same with 4g.

But if you want to pay a premium for 4g then by all means go ahead, you can pay the premium and when the networks have recuperated their investment the rest of us will gladly have 4g at the proper price. At which point you will be paying a premium for 5g :smile:

Life mobile have been fantastic for me thus far.

What a useless way of comparing!!
I was also on Life and wife on EE in the same house she would get better reception than me. 1) 4G 2) Direct EE main provider hence priority than Life mobile (part of EE 2nd class) piggy bank on EE 3g only.

Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about fella.

It's pretty simple. People are slating Life because it is 3G only. On HSPA+ through Life I was able to get download speeds of 20Mbps+ consistently.

Since moving to Vodafone, my 4G download speeds have never been higher than 15Mbps, in various geographical locations.

So clearly it is a false argument for people to say that because Life only operate on 3G they are not worth considering.

I'm on Vodafone directly, not via an MVNO, so that's not going to be the issue. Also, Life is actually a subsidiary of EE so I'm not sure that their priority would be lower. And, this is always a bit of a dubious argument anyway.
In direct comparisons I have done at the same time in the same location between O2 and Tesco mobile, I consistently had better signal and faster data with Tesco than a contract O2 sim, comparing over a number of weeks.

So, horses for courses, your mileage may vary, but people who say "3G cold" are the same people who would buy a 128gb iPhone and only use 10gb of storage. Numbers alone don't tell the whole story.

Yes, that was my experience, too. EE provides very good speed indeed on 4G, and Three is not bad either (if you have coverage) - both are clearly better the 3G network. Virtual networks often get lower speeds, so the difference may not be significant.

That's a non-sequitor. 4G not only operates on different frequencies (and could it also be coming from different masts?), but "signal is low" is not the only reason why the data rate might be low: it may also be due to congestion in the bands, for instance.

I'm not saying that 4G is as important to have as some people might be claiming, but there are many factors at work so it's dangerous to make simplistic comparisons.

It is really a matter of personal experience. If you read my post I have already mention Life part of EE and my experience with both.
No saying cold coz of 3G but in this case you do get what you pay for!

​its hardly dangerous, this is after all about a mobile signal and speed :wink:

in a nutshell stop being 4g snobs as you don't really need it, but if you want it so be it. In relation to this thread life mobile provides an excellent deal. stating that it is only 3g therefore a bad deal is idiotic.

I'm not being a "4G snob" - I'm countering your false information.

Countering false information - honestly.
At the end of the day this is a good value deal for 3G with loads of minutes and unlimited txt. Some people (including myself) are happy with decent 3G and aren't interested in paying more for 4G. I have already posted a screen dump of how fast my 3G is and that's more than enough for me (faster than some people's home broadband). Out of the 5 times I have tested it with tethering, only once has it been below 20Mb/s. Several members have posted how happy they are with their Life Sims.
I only posted this for the benefit of the people who missed out on last month's good deals.

Please stop pushing you're 4G argument. No one's interested unless you can come up with an identical deal on 4G for the same cost.
Cheers

Ah, you're the OP? Is that why you're being so precious about it? It doesn't allow you to get away with making plainly wrong statements about the technology.
Sure - I never said it wasn't - so why are you assuming I'm attacking the deal when I'm only pointing out your false assumptions?
I'm not "pushing" any 4G argument - I'm taking you to task for pushing an anti-4G argument which is simply incorrect. There is a difference you know.
And again you're pushing the same false information - that 4G (with 3G fallback) is no better than 3G on its own - because if it was, it wouldn't have to be identical for it to be comparable in value.

What are you on about, as the OP I've not made any 'wrong' statements about 4G. That was other members. I have only made statements about 3G which are not 'wrong'. I've made NO statements about technology for them to be plainly wrong. I did not make any of the comments you have attributed to me.
You have came in from the start trying put your case across for 4G and 'win' your side of the argument that you're intent on having. I only commented as you shouldn't be having a go at other members.
Pushing the same false information - You're the one not comparing like for like. Your the one that starting banging on about 4G on a 3G deal. Other members are entitled to respond and I don't think any of their comments have been 'false'
I have posted no false information, so please check your facts before making pitiful accusations.
Why are you adding (sic) into my comments?

OK, it's clear that your mindset is that it's fine for people to post anything that supports your deal even when it's false information, but anyone who dares to correct that false information is "having a go" and shouldn't be allowed to do so.

Grow up and move on :stuck_out_tongue:

Doesn't matter, this deal no longer exists, even though it links through to "Life".

How does it not exist. Still showing live on Broadband Choices and when it diverts you to Life.
States that it is on until 30th April. Just checked by going to Broadband Choices site rather than my link.

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Cheers

​you obviously do not have the intelligence to comprehend what myself and others are saying.......

try reading again and actually understanding it, then if you wish to continue to make pointless comments then please be out guest, we have freedom of speech after all.

"I only commented as you shouldn't be having a go at other members."

Riiight...

Bait?
Grow Up

Hot. Great deal tbh.

Besides all that nonsense. That's not actually what a non sequitor is.

Been tethering with ID for about a year, had no problems whatsoever

Better to pay £1.45pm extra and go for Virgin £12 pm deal with Unlimited minutes albeit 2GB data (enough for most that have WIFI at home and work). The additional advantage with Virgin that can save a packet is free inclusive 084/087 calls. These can also be used to make unlimited free international calls. Further, Virgin are usually extremely good at discounting if you are planning to leave.

Just left Virgin. Better internet with Life & Tethering
If I was going extra I would go for the Life 6Gb, Unlimited txt & mins for £13.45.

According to "ofcom" all "unlimited texts" have a "fair usage policy" of 3000. Only Tesco mobile deals have 5000

https://lifemobile.co.uk/Basket/SimChoice/100
Uswitch £5.95 Exclusive
1000 min / 5000 txt 1GB = £5.95

https://lifemobile.co.uk/Basket/SimChoice/101
Uswitch £9.45 Exclusive
2000 min / 5000 txt / 2GB = £9.45

https://lifemobile.co.uk/Basket/SimChoice/91
Broadband Choices £10.45 Exclusive
3000min / Unlimited txt/ 3GB = £10.45

https://lifemobile.co.uk/Basket/SimChoice/92
Broadband Choices £13.45 Exclusive
Unlimited min / Unlimited txt / 6GB = £13.45

I attempted to create a wireless hotspot using my Life Mobile sim this week, and whilst the laptop connected, it couldn't transmit or receive data. Anyone else seen this? I spoke to Life a minute ago and they told me that they don't support the functionality...so is it ONLY USB tethering that works?

That's rubbish. The screenshots of my speed whilst tethering was using my phone as a hot spot. I have tethered loads of times and did not use a USB lead once. You can see in the screen shots that the network on the speedchecker was EE.

Interesting, thanks. Can I ask what phone and operating system you are on? I've tried it on two Android Lollipop phones and get the same result I.e. no internet. Worked fine on Vodafone and EE.

LG G4 and my son uses his Sony Z2. He has tethered to my phone with his IPad a few times whilst travelling in the car with no lead.

Thought I would just check. I am tethering now as I type this with no lead. As soon as I switch on my my hotspot my laptop connected straight away. I'm on Android 6 with the G4. I'm not sure what my son's Z2 is on

Good news, thank you. Looks like I'll need another convo with Life. Last question, would you mind sharing your APN settings? I had to enter mine manually (copied from the geeksquad site).

Use this:

APN = everywhere (case sensitive)
Proxy = Leave Blank
Port = Leave Blank
Username = eesecure
Password = secure
Server = Leave Blank
MMSC = Leave Blank
MMS proxy = Leave Blank
MMS port = Leave Blank
MCC = 234
MNC = 30
Authentication type = PAP
APN type = default
APN protocol = IPv4
Bearer = Unspecified

Thanks for your help everyone! Unfortunately these are the settings I'm already using. The only difference I have is the MNC setting - mine will not set to 30 (33 is default). Setting it to 30 deletes the profile :disappointed: Weird.

Could you try updating your phone. There was some problems with tethering on some early versions of lollipop

Cheers, both are up to date (Moto G 4G and Valencia 2 Pro), and tether fine with other sims. I could try it in my wife's iPhone perhaps.

My MNC is also 33

Really good to know, thank you.

How long does it take for the SIM to arrive after ordering?

I'm switching from 3 but want to leave it as close as possible to my PAC expiry date.

I've been having similar sounding problems with my mobile data for weeks on Life Mobile. It worked fine for a couple of weeks but then I could no longer get data most of them time. It tends to come on at random intervals maybe once a week then won't work again for days at a time. Probably 15 calls to life mobile trying to sort it out and still no joy. I'm on the verge of leaving them and paying 3 time as much to EE :disappointed:

Crap this isn't what I want to hear thinking of joining life or ID at the end of this month

As a test, I bought a £1 EE data sim card and tried that in my phone. Tethering works fine which leaves me now thinking that Life Mobile have purposefully disabled tethering on my account :disappointed:

Very poor support. Sim delivered 3 days now, Already paid first month CCard and setup DD for further payments, yet no SIM activation and live support no help. Avoid.

Brief update - website states tethering is included so it looks like my issue is account specific. Life have tried their best but after 11 days I still can't tether or send/receive picture messages.

I gave Life Mobile about 3 weeks on £6 per month tariff, very happy with everything apart from data connection disappearing for days at a time. Now with EE and no connection problems at all, but paying 3 times the price

OK, Life sent me a new sim which has fixed the picture messaging problem. Still no tethering though :disappointed: