I normally climb over the fence to get in so this is a step up for me.

Some people don't have the money to be ethical should they deny their children the possibility of seeing these wonderful sights? For those who believe it's morally or ethically wrong, please feel free not to use these deals that have been shared with this community of bargain hunters.
Some people buy Free range eggs some people buy rainforest alliance bananas doesn't make those who don't morally wrong? Maybe they're just doing the best for their families.... :smiley:

Lucky this is a deals site and not an ethics discussion board. Heat

there is a big list of national trust places abroad you cam join that are cheaper than UK , I'm still a believer in helping the UK one to maintain its properties, £100 a year for a family to visit loads of places is great value, compare it with alton towers for a day pass would cost more

Received mine also.

My cards arrived at the Saturday, joint membership and both cards have both names on them, they expire 30th September 2016.

The cards have a picture of building in Bermuda on front and text on back

do the cards look much different? the other half has one for herself bought here but can not afford a family one, this is a good deal to get kids out seeing history.
why do jobsworths have to ruin everything?

also with it stating membership runs from october 1st to september 30th will this expire this coming september?

Takes around 2 weeks for card to arrive

Takes around 2 weeks for card to arrive

Anyone got their cards yet?

​If that is the case that EH members have been subsidising this loophole then once it's closed the price of membership should drop surely? Great news! :wink:

​I should get you facts straight before throwing accusations around my accusation throwing, do-gooder, holier than thou friend. I at no point have said, I have taken up this deal. I have merely said I have no issues at all with those who have or are going to in the future.... Some people are on limited funds and putting food on the table and clothing on their childrens backs is a priority. Seeing this country's history and heritage should not be the preserve of those fortunate enough to be able to afford over £100 for something that they may only use a hand full of times. If the charities in question have been made aware of this some 3 plus years ago and done nothing then I doubt they will now.... However if I am proven wrong then unlike you it will not be the first time in my life..... :wink:

You've opened a massive can of worms here deanos, heat......

I would think Bermuda need our money far more than the English National Trust, way i see it many people cant afford to buy membership so then don't visit anywhere so national trust get nothing , they get a cheap family membership then visit and pay for parking and use the coffee shop/gift shop and national trust get more money than they would have, so its not cheating charity IMO and National Trust get more money, look at the bigger picture

Wrong on that, I'm afraid, my little charity-cheating friend:

".............we have been in touch with the relevant overseas bodies since being made aware of the recurrence of this unfortunate situation, and they are, at our request, making changes which will involve proof of residence.

The support of our members in the continuance of the work we do is very much appreciated, and I can assure you that we will address this anomaly, with the full co-operation of our overseas 'partners', within a very short timescale."

​Dear Mr A Pandy
I'm glad that you are such a shining beacon of morality. Surely being prudent with limited income and expanding a child's mind with new experiences, raising their interest in history is just as important! Plus do all of the people who take up the deal broadcast the fact to their children? I think not, so argument lost. PS this deal is legal so there is no morallity issue to overcome anyway. As mentioned before these charities make money on visitors parking , gifts, guide books, food and beverages too. This deal or loophole has been highlighted to the charities years ago and they have done nothing to stop it.... Why? because the still make money out of the visitors despite the fact they may not have fully UK membership. :wink:

​Get a life and stop being a morality police officer. For gods sake have you really got nothing better to do? :confused:

​I'm absolutely sure that the NT and EH have no issue with cashflow they both have millions in reserve and could both survive on interest alone.
Each and every year thousands of people bequest millions more all of which is tax free and added to by the general tax paying public through giftaid. Add to that that half of the staff are there on a voluntary basis and this is a reciprocal agreement and statistically there will be a very few people who take up this deal. The affect on either charity will be the same as a fart in a hurricane. :wink:

I'd just like to say thank you for this deal. If the NT lowered there prices a bit there would be no need for us to buy elsewhere and they would probably sell a lot more memberships like Bermuda probably do as they keep it at a fair price

​Why do you think British people elect to become Bermudan citizens?

Super hot!

The National Trust makes their money from shop/cafe sales anyway the membership is just a way to get people in the door rather than their big profit maker

Yes I have bought them, they are credit sized cards, just show at the cash desk, no issues at all

Has anyone actually bought this way? Just wondering how the passes differ and if there have been any issues using them

Null argument.
I have no problem with people buying NT membership for the country they are domicile in and then using when on holiday. This deal is about people buying NT membership for the country they are non-domicile.
I.e taking advantage of the reciprocal arrangement between worldwide trusts that will mean that the trusts will stop the agreement because of the few cheapskates taking advantage.

You might save £85 but you depraviting national trust of much needed funding so cold from me.

Lucky for me, my sister lives in Bermuda! If she chooses the Family UK option from the drop down menu on the site, will she still get entrance to the NT sites in Bermuda?

They are aware hence they ask to see membership cards

No I'll go to the beach in Bermuda. Thanks. It's lovely. ☺️

So I take it that if you go to Bermuda or New Zealand for a holiday you'll purchase local memberships and not use the UK membership

I'm not looking down my nose at anyone :smiley:

I'm just trying to make the point that if everyone takes this line then in not too many generations a lot of the 200 UK NT sites wouldn't be available to families like yours.

Nice

Absolutely. And since gardner1 was responsible for the quote below, he must really be a fun person to work or live with. The trouble with people promoting or using 'deals' like this is that they're invariably pretty unpleasant people, out for themselves all the time, taking what they can grab from others - basically a bunch of ****.

i used to work for amtrak parcels delivering methadone to chemists every friday ,we would try and deliver early knowing fine well they were closed
we would leave card informing them it would be redlivered on monday and it made us chuckle that the smackheads had to go cold turkey over the weekend

oh no don't get them started on animal ethics as well.

'Trying to do right by their families'. A great way to justify absolutely anything immoral and generally selfish. Shining example to the next generation, well done.

Well you've lost your bet. I am decent hardworking person who considers laughing about something my priority each day.
As a long time member of NT I do actually look at the accounts that are sent to each and every member. If you did the same then you might be surprised quite how the NT manages to balance the books. Especially with the number of properties and land that they have to maintain in this country. They are not a government funded organisation as some people think but a charity that depends on income from membership and other sources. Please read up about Nt and especially it's history and then perhaps you might think again about trying to shortchange them.
Also remember that throwing personal insults at somebody is no way to win an argument.
Yours
Mr Chuckles the Clown

Anyway , if anyone has kids i can highly recommend Belton House, massive adventure playground, miniature train ride and huge grounds to explore :smiley:

​Didn't you say the same thing 3 years 5 months ago? Well it's still happening so I really don't think the trust is bothered.
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​The Ethics police will be round knocking it your door. Slightly different to the Essex police..... :confused:

​You're so concerned about these hard pressed charities that you post a 2 for 1 offer that cuts their potential profit buy 50%? English Heritage?? Just saying!
Give this guy a break he's try to save us a few quid. Any extra footfall through the door will raise revenue through merchandise , Food and beverage sales etc. Yes if everyone did this there would have to be a rethink, but if say 500 people take up this deal. What's the issue? They wouldn't have ever paid full membership price anyway. So the NT will have 500 extra families visiting their sites this year! Spending money in the on site cafe and gift shop. I really don't think they will mind that. :wink:

I hadn't actually known about the parking ticket sold on eBay until you just mentioned it :smirk:

Stupid cold.

If you're glad to be ripping off the National Trust then I suggest you read some more about this charity and it's founding principles.

The fact that hukd are allowing this deal just shows how little morals the site has these days.

I did also ask elsewhere, and I did say cheers for replying to my question, don't see the problem, I saw it originally on an other site not on here

Thanks for pointing out the car sticker sales on Ebay.

I don't really have an issue with the reciprocal membership but considering that the National Trust hand these out to members in good faith it's an absolute disgrace that some scum are extracting the urine by taking stickers to resell. They are, in effect, stealing from the National Trust and other genuine members who might be denied parking spaces through their actions.

I have made the National Trust aware of this practice.

So why didn't you seek the answers to your questions from MSE instead and not from him a couple of weeks ago? If someone takes time out to help you the least they deserve is a bit of courtesy and respect.

You can't judge what other countries pay and what we pay, the agreement that the NT has is to allow holiday makers access to sites around the world. it's cheap in Bermuda because they don't have as many properties to keep up plus if you think about it wth the reciprocal agreement many of these countries wouldn't expect lots of visitors however ever couple of years they suddenly see thousands of foreign visitors after this is posted here and elsewhere :smiley:

What's the odd one out:
FIFA, BBC, ICAAN, NT

Voted hot and tempted to buy this as i rarely visit National trust places due to prices so at £26 i would, they'd then make some money from parking and purchases in there otherwise they'd make almost nothing from me..

Also it was in the mail a few year ago about the loophole :wink:link here :smiley:

If you read this you will see they know yet make money from shops, cafes and parking so no need to go running off pointing out what they knew years ago

The NT admits there is a problem but believes that only ‘a few thousand’ deliberately exploit the loophole.
It says heritage trusts in Zimbabwe, Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man have strict membership rules and would not allow anyone living full-time in Britain to join their organisations to exploit the free entrance perk at NT properties.
The Trust added: ‘We have been aware for some time that people in the UK have joined overseas conservation organisations to access Trust sites at a lower cost.
‘But we still get extra income from the money they spend in shops and cafes and they have to pay parking.’

But how much is parking at a property? Obviously you'd have to pay at the coastal car parks they've bought.

Maybe National Trust wouldn't have to charge us so much to see our own heritage if it's chief execs didn't have among the highest salaries of all charities in the country. From the Telegraph:

Says this site may be hacked

I forwarded this deal to National Trust head office. Sure they'll be able to blacklist the non-resident Bermuda nt cards.

​Correct but you do need to be wealthy to prioritise spending over £100 rather than spending £45 for the same access. Especially when you are on a tight budget.....
Like I said in my post if you can afford to be ethical 100% of the time and take the moral high ground looking down your nose at people who are trying to do right by their families then good for you.

Charities are the biggest rip off , standing in the high street with that shakey pot and there smug faces :smile:

Like I said , I saw it on mse first not on here, then searched on here afterwards, and various other sites

^^^ Not a biggie, but I agree that it would have been polite to give props

Yeah, how does 3.5yrs ago then checking the end of page 2/top of page 3 when I was helping the OP who then posted this deal as his own. Honestly not overly bothered, just would've been nice to credit me for the original post

Its Bermudian, not Bermudan, just saying...
https://www.doiapps.gov.bm/statuscheck/

bad post...ccccoooooolllllddddddddd

Not going to credit me for this Deanos?

So I'm going to Italy in a few weeks, can I use this or our heritage card to visit Pompey and other attractions in that area?

Most places close in winter and only just opened again, you can join for 5 years at a time

Some people don't have the money to be ethical should they deny their children the possibility of seeing these wonderful sights? For those who believe it's morally or ethically wrong, please feel free not to use these deals that have been shared with this community of bargain hunters.
Some people buy Free range eggs some people buy rainforest alliance bananas doesn't make those who don't morally wrong? Maybe they're just doing the best for their families.... :smiley:

​Unintentional pun of the week..... :wink:

Can't afford £111 but can afford drinks, cakes and ice creams when you there.

http://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/National-Trust/salaries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Bq9YdDVc8

Still think TSC was his best dazes. Always will.

Takes one to know one.

Also in Google search it is warning that the Bermuda National trust site may be hacked!

Hope all you cheapskates get a nice virus.

Not very ethical

Lucky this is a deals site and not an ethics discussion board. Heat

Pah - national trust campaign for no new building anywhere pricing the young out of ever owning a home, quite happy to see their funding cut.

Yes - it was my original thread and me who was answering your questions as to whether the offer still existed.

Contentious post; great value but morally questionable when the membership fee goes towards maintaining and keeping open these places of interest.

Im sure youd have to buy a load of overpriced fizzy pop and sugar so that the total net margins equate to an annual family membership cost.
Afaik they are a not for profit organisation with cultural heritage at their heart(and upkeep costs to cover), not a greedy profit making organisation.

there is a big list of national trust places abroad you cam join that are cheaper than UK , I'm still a believer in helping the UK one to maintain its properties, £100 a year for a family to visit loads of places is great value, compare it with alton towers for a day pass would cost more

(The Membership year runs from October 1st to September 30th) So not a full year if you join at the moment.