Save another £15 and just buy a cheap thermometer.
In real terms, you can tell your child has a fever just by looking at them - don't need to know how hot.
AnnaMak to ro53ben
11 Mar 162#7
Wow a qualified GP are we?
Complete rubbish!
bigsky to ro53ben
11 Mar 162#8
In real terms that is a very daft comment. Establishing if the temperature is higher or lower than normal, and also tracking how it changes, is an extremely important diagnostic tool.
Jo444 to ro53ben
11 Mar 161#9
So later when doctor ask about fever you say '' I believe that it was somewhere between 38.5 and 39.9''?
bigsky to ro53ben
11 Mar 16#18
Your indecision over the past hour would be funny if it weren't so dangerous.
welshdad
11 Mar 16#10
None in stock anywhere near me in South Wales or around my sister in Leicester!
ro53ben
11 Mar 16#11
No really, it isn't. Usual workflow as follows:
1) Child feels unwell
2) Check temp
3) Are they hot? Give Calpol.
4) Not hot but still unwell? Give Calpol.
5) Given Calpol but still hot? Give Calprofen.
6) Given both but still hot? Cold bed bath.
7) Still hot? See a trained medical professional. Tell them their temperature was 39.6 - get ignored - watch as the trained person takes their own reading, using a thermometer that cost much less than your ridiculous overpriced gadget. :sunglasses: Get sent home as it's just a bug that's going round.
bigsky
11 Mar 161#12
That's right. You'll need one of these to do that.
ro53ben
11 Mar 161#13
Great job of missing the point.
Hot or not, the outcome is the same...you bung them some Calpol. If you speak to a real medic, they don't care about the numbers you took anyway.
This site is about saving money, buying an overpriced digital thermometer isn't a good way of doing that.
bigsky
11 Mar 161#14
You think the child might be hot (using nothing but guesswork). Skin can be hot to the touch for a number of reasons; it doesn't mean the child has a fever but you would still give them paracetamol unnecessarily. But hey, at least you haven't had to waste £18 on your kid's health so it's not all bad!
If you do speak to a real medical professional they will tell you there is a significant problem with uneducated parents using paracetamol excessively. This can take a real toll on a child's liver as well as risks to the heart and kidney. It is also linked to an increased occurrence of asthma.
As money saving is SO important why not think of it like this? This deal is for a really easy to use thermometer. (Don't worry, an idiot could use it). It costs about the same as six bottles of Calpol. If you are chucking Calpol down your child's throat every time you think it might be hot then you could be quids in pretty quickly.
eslick
11 Mar 162#15
Hope you don't have kids or they have grown up, medical advice is to check for a temperature doctors actually ask you this now.
It's because of stupid parents wth comments like yours that we can no longer give our kids medicine that helps them and can only offer them the likes of calpol and basic cough medicine.
ro53ben
11 Mar 16#16
If you spoke to a real medical professional, like I do every day, you wouldn't have an opinion like you read it from the pages of the Daily Mail.
A true professional would tell you that these thermometers have one advantage - they are quick. Unfortunately, this is at a cost of accuracy - they aren't particularly accurate. They work by detecting infra-red radiation from the ear drum. This requires line of sight. Unfortunately, especially in infants, the view to the ear drum is often obscured - ear wax being a common obstruction. People produce even more wax when they are ill - it's a natural immune response - magnifying this problem.
Excess medication can often be a problem, which is why there are strict dosage limits on the packet. If you exceed them, sure, possible risks. Within the stated dose - no risks - that's why specific doses exist. There is no proven link to asthma, maybe you got that one from the Daily Express?
Paracetamol and ibuprofen are licensed for use in the treatment of more symptoms than just a fever - whether a child has a temperature or not doesn't really indicate whether you should give them Calpol or not. If your child has a symptom as indicated by the medication, you can treat with the drug - hot or cold isn't a critical factor.
A basic digital thermometer costs around £3, it's all you might need and will be more accurate than this. Why waste the money? Because you want it...that's all. I've wanted one for years, picked one up in Boots many times, but I haven't bought one. Because I know it's a waste of money and my real medical professional will laugh at me if I do.
ro53ben
11 Mar 16#17
I'm not saying you shouldn't check temperature, I'm saying that you don't need a twenty quid gadget to do that.
If your child is teething ( I have two aged 3 & 6 by the way) they have painful inflammation in their gums. They don't have a fever, checking their temperature won't achieve anything. They do, however, need relief - hence you would still administer the drug. That's what it is for.
Calpol is not contra-indicated for use in children who don't have a fever.
eslick
11 Mar 16#19
ok so you check their temperature with another device that's good, at least you aren't just checking with your hand and hoping for the best. Any device that can take a temperature should be used, these ones are very similar to the ones used by doctors and hospitals, Braun do a professional version as well. The technology is the same and give a better figure than any cheaper ones. cheaper ones are ok but the electronic ones have a more reliable reading. Doctors will even tell you this.
Just remember that the electronic ones are also easier to use than ones you need to stick in the childs mouth or put on their body to ready.
ro53ben
11 Mar 16#20
There is no indecision there, it's totally consistent if you understand English grammar.
To summarise, for the hard to comprehend...
Measure the temperature if you like, although most of the time the outcome is exactly the same - you give them Calpol. If you do insist on checking their temperature every time they have hiccups, you don't need a £20 thermometer to do it - aside from costing more money, it will likely give you a less accurate result.
ro53ben
11 Mar 16#21
I can't say I've used a thermometer in at least 2 years, we bought a cheap one when we had our first child 6 years ago and it's been used maybe once a year since. I'm glad I didn't waste £20 on something I really didn't use much - any parent who knows their child will know when they are truly ill.
These are similar to those used in hospitals who have too much money to spend. I know nurses on children's wards who have to buy their own as they don't have enough money to get them at the hospital. Either way, taking a temperature from an ear drum is hit and miss if you aren't trained - professionals know when the view is obscured and check using a different thermometer.
These aren't significantly easier than just putting a thermometer in your child's armpit - it's dead easy.
gazz33
11 Mar 161#22
So every deal you have posted there isn’t a cheaper alternative! And you call this overpriced.
ro53ben
14 Mar 16#23
This a good deal on a pointless, overpriced product that offers no advantage over the cheaper digital models.
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Hot, if you can find it...
same price at Amazon, buy something like shower gel to get the free delivery, normally have some cheaper or the same price as the supermarkets.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/braun-irt6020-thermoscan-5-thermometer-17-99-prime-21-98-non-prime-amazon-2410808
In real terms, you can tell your child has a fever just by looking at them - don't need to know how hot.
Complete rubbish!
Your indecision over the past hour would be funny if it weren't so dangerous.
1) Child feels unwell
2) Check temp
3) Are they hot? Give Calpol.
4) Not hot but still unwell? Give Calpol.
5) Given Calpol but still hot? Give Calprofen.
6) Given both but still hot? Cold bed bath.
7) Still hot? See a trained medical professional. Tell them their temperature was 39.6 - get ignored - watch as the trained person takes their own reading, using a thermometer that cost much less than your ridiculous overpriced gadget.
:sunglasses: Get sent home as it's just a bug that's going round.
Hot or not, the outcome is the same...you bung them some Calpol. If you speak to a real medic, they don't care about the numbers you took anyway.
This site is about saving money, buying an overpriced digital thermometer isn't a good way of doing that.
If you do speak to a real medical professional they will tell you there is a significant problem with uneducated parents using paracetamol excessively. This can take a real toll on a child's liver as well as risks to the heart and kidney. It is also linked to an increased occurrence of asthma.
As money saving is SO important why not think of it like this? This deal is for a really easy to use thermometer. (Don't worry, an idiot could use it). It costs about the same as six bottles of Calpol. If you are chucking Calpol down your child's throat every time you think it might be hot then you could be quids in pretty quickly.
It's because of stupid parents wth comments like yours that we can no longer give our kids medicine that helps them and can only offer them the likes of calpol and basic cough medicine.
A true professional would tell you that these thermometers have one advantage - they are quick. Unfortunately, this is at a cost of accuracy - they aren't particularly accurate. They work by detecting infra-red radiation from the ear drum. This requires line of sight. Unfortunately, especially in infants, the view to the ear drum is often obscured - ear wax being a common obstruction. People produce even more wax when they are ill - it's a natural immune response - magnifying this problem.
Excess medication can often be a problem, which is why there are strict dosage limits on the packet. If you exceed them, sure, possible risks. Within the stated dose - no risks - that's why specific doses exist. There is no proven link to asthma, maybe you got that one from the Daily Express?
Paracetamol and ibuprofen are licensed for use in the treatment of more symptoms than just a fever - whether a child has a temperature or not doesn't really indicate whether you should give them Calpol or not. If your child has a symptom as indicated by the medication, you can treat with the drug - hot or cold isn't a critical factor.
A basic digital thermometer costs around £3, it's all you might need and will be more accurate than this. Why waste the money? Because you want it...that's all. I've wanted one for years, picked one up in Boots many times, but I haven't bought one. Because I know it's a waste of money and my real medical professional will laugh at me if I do.
If your child is teething ( I have two aged 3 & 6 by the way) they have painful inflammation in their gums. They don't have a fever, checking their temperature won't achieve anything. They do, however, need relief - hence you would still administer the drug. That's what it is for.
Calpol is not contra-indicated for use in children who don't have a fever.
Just remember that the electronic ones are also easier to use than ones you need to stick in the childs mouth or put on their body to ready.
To summarise, for the hard to comprehend...
Measure the temperature if you like, although most of the time the outcome is exactly the same - you give them Calpol. If you do insist on checking their temperature every time they have hiccups, you don't need a £20 thermometer to do it - aside from costing more money, it will likely give you a less accurate result.
These are similar to those used in hospitals who have too much money to spend. I know nurses on children's wards who have to buy their own as they don't have enough money to get them at the hospital. Either way, taking a temperature from an ear drum is hit and miss if you aren't trained - professionals know when the view is obscured and check using a different thermometer.
These aren't significantly easier than just putting a thermometer in your child's armpit - it's dead easy.