Where's your HUKD spirit? I've never needed anything I've bought from here....including this!

let me check for you......£289

would personally pay an extra £70 for brand new with additional warranty from John Lewis, good deal if you get sent one in good nick though

Not bad, since this comes with 1 year Argos warranty of it stops working will I need to contact Argos eBay or go to a Argos store do you know?

This is one is going to get hot.

thanks OP this one will get super hot

How much does the 32gb model cost?

How much RAM on this?

That's what kills it permanent Safari reloads, the air 2 with 2gb ram takes care of it and is a much better buy

True. But it's still better than iPad 3 or 4 with the same amount of ram.

But as you say, air 2 is a better choice.

Wow. Cheap!

Don't need one but if I did then I'd be tempted!

title should show 16gb.

title should show 16gb.

I've got an ipad Air 64GB Wifi 4G, was going to sell it but I'm keeping it now I've seen Geoshred app.

Thanks OP, bought and voted hot :smiley:

More likely that it's now a discontinued product.

New iPad is out on the 24th and apple are going to reduced the price of iPad Air 2 - wait few weeks and your able be able to get iPad Air 1 Even cheaper

If anything goes wrong, do you go back to Argos eBay, Argos retail stores or apple retail stores?

Thanks in advance

Anyone know what their refurbs are like compared to Apple refurbs? I know people speak highly of the apple refurbs.

I bought a laptop from argos for xmas. Condition was as new. It did have a fault a couple months in and I emailed them, they offered me a full refund or a repair. I opted for a repair as it was such a bargain. It was a smooth transaction as they sent a returns label and sent me constant updates on progress and when the laptop was dispatched back to me...happy days

Great price but 16gb will be annoying for many. I'm surprised with the screen resolution it has, that it can even run on 1GB ram. I can imagine it's not the best experience if you're dealing with multiple apps at a time. Somehow it works though and pretty well at that. Excellent deal!

It's a 16gb, superseded and second hand iPad. This is cold in so many ways...

Does the body of this vibrate horribly when you're using the internal speaker? It's a pain in the ar5e on the Air 2, but the 2GB ram just about makes up for it!

Ordered, thanks OP great post.

sorry, but can i put microsoft office on this for college

Had a bad experience ordering the refurbished airs that were posted on here a few weeks ago. Fingers crossed this time!

hottttttttttt

Does anyone know what grade of refurbishment these are in? The video from argos states there are two types. "managers special" & B grade. Also are this refurbished from Argos or from Apple.

Is it got Touch ID ?

I don't know if i really need it.

would personally pay an extra £70 for brand new with additional warranty from John Lewis, good deal if you get sent one in good nick though

doesn't say what grade it is as the b graded is £215.99 so my guess is c grade which stands for cr""p

Argos Manager Special

Argos Managers Special is our top grade of refurbishment. These items might have minor cosmetic marks or scratches, but will be of a high standard and are great value for money.

They will have been comprehensively tested and in full working order
The item will have been professionally refurbished
They may have minor cosmetic marks or scratches (these do not hinder the functionality in anyway)
Factory settings will be restored (if applicable)
They will be in original retail or replacement packaging that may have marks, scuffs or stickers on the boxes
They might have non-original accessories

Argos Managers Special products could have been subject to a previous sale, be ex-display and/or non-pristine. They will also be supported by a 12 month warranty. You should expect to see some signs of use, but overall the items are in great condition.

- I've seen many Argos 'refurbed' products (live local to their clearance store), some are ok with bashed boxes and others are knackered from the start. It's not unusual for the spotless ones to fail within a few months, although you'll get your money back, it's just annoying.

Don't expect Apple refurb quality. Professionally just means someone was paid to give it a once over.

If I was buying one (which I'm not), I would order a couple to avoid disappointment.

of course it got heat.
granted best i seen was when the air brand new from sainsbury was 199 but that went so fast
this is good because it actually has a 12 month warranty which means if it fails then return it and get your cash back

got ipad 2 also which is now 5 years old.works great.only issue is the sound has gone recently but i have not been updating the ios for a while so might be the reason .
no tablet has made it beyond 2 years apart from this one and until recently was constantly in use by the missus

I got brand new one in the Sainsburys deal recently, been impressed with it, but will be careful with installing any future IOS updates in case they start slowing it down (as Apple tend to do).

16gb RAM?

Well, that's me down £180 on another tablet that I really don't need... Thanks HUKD! :stuck_out_tongue: Heat added.

we have 2 ipad 2s, one is still quite good, the other you cant even use safari on it because its so slow, upgraded that one, as someone said will be waiting to see what feedback is on forums before upgrading it past the next one. Though think Apple may have got wise to it, the latest update to ios9 only goes on the ipad Air, the 2, 3 and 4 wont get it.

is a 16gb tablet with no means of expansion really a good deal, no matter what price

my ipad 3 got it last night

Same i'm still on an ipad 3 from 2012, apart from being slightly laggy on some apps, it runs really well.

ipad air can handle IOS9.i have ipad 2 myself and yes it lags heavily if pushed to IOS9

It can handle it but even Apple knows they're stretching it - every new iPad launched now has 2GB RAM with iOS9, I'm sure Apple is slowly crippling all old devices and forcing people to upgrade.

Isn't it better to pay £70 more and buy from john lewis and get brand new and 2 years guarantee.

I know that, the problem is they should've stopped support for the ipad 2 years ago. its last iOs version should have been ios 7. Look at the first ipad. I think that stopped at ios 5. And its so much faster than my ipad 2 which is ios 9.

What i'm trying to say is think before updating the software. I'm sure the ipad air 1 can handle ios 9 just fine but when ios 10 comes, not sure about that.

air 1?

Can also get 1.01% cashback from Topcashback on ebay

Plus it's brand new not a refurb.
Each to their own i guess.

16gb probably isn't enough these days. Good deal but you probably need a minimum of 32gb as there's no extra storage.

Interesting it's argos ebay, without the option to collect from argos stores.

After the IOS 9 is installed, how much memory does that leave free for Apps/Video?

Same here. We have 3 samsung tablets which were taken to a service altogether 9 times between thrm. One of them us dead for good. My ipad is cratched, was dropped (even twice to my younger one's bigger toe and made it purple) but still working just absolutely fine. The best purchase ever

Funny how people can suddenly get obsessed with RAM. Most apple devices run fine on 1GB RAM. I've got a oneplus 2 with 4GB RAM and a Pixel C with 3 and they run about the same as my iPhone 6. The processor and screen resolution in combination with GPU are much bigger issues. iOS can be limiting at times but it's very well optimised. It's like when people say need 16GB in their PC or Mac when they use word and surf the net!

Good, deal very usable iPad still with plenty of life left for the general User. Had two around 12 months now.
Hot.

Any get theirs yet?
Anyone have previous experience with EBay's "Fast & Free" 48hr courier service?

I am surprised! That is still a reasonable amount, I thought you would be left with less than 10gb, good to hear. thanks

Hello,
If I subsequently sell an apple product is any warranty remaining transferrable to the new owner?
Simon

Heat OP.....cheers :smiley:

People keep claiming this but I have used an iPad Air 1 since they came out and only very seldom see this page reloading problem - and certainly could not positively point to the 1Gb RAM as the cause!

354 sold in the last 24 hours, either a truck load as been returned or it will be like the washing machine fiasco and orders will be cancelled due to not enough stock.

Someone on here must have bought one as they have been on sale for for several months now. Be interested to received feedback on the quality of the refurbs??

I have just seen that you get £10 voucher if you spend £100 at Argos. It is from today

Thanks. One other thing does the warranty start from purchase date or when you first switch on the tablet?

argos warranty is from when you recieve item

It says limited quantities remaining.

Well depends on what version of iOS, Version 8.x was very buggy, its not doing it on 9.3 (yet), I occasionally get it now (since 9.x) but if you are running iOS 8 its an issue. You can often improve things by closing down open Apps/Background Apps. So its not a failed memory chip, as such.

Copy and Paste is buggy as hell too. (often not copying, when you have). Even selecting the URL in the OP's Header to copy is not straightforward. Try it!

I love the iPads for consumption but I wouldn't buy a iPad Pro because iOS just isn't good enough for a 'pro device' at the moment. Bluntly, iOS is just not good enough for a £600+ device. But in the £200-£300 price point iOS is fine, best in its class.

Hey yomo5074 - thanks for sharing this :smiley: This was featured in the HUKD daily newsletter as the hottest deal of the day.

If any members aren't signed up to our newsletter you can do so here - http://www.hotukdeals.com/newsletter

I'm using an iPad 4 and have had no issues. Plus I use apps for guardian and times. Then again I do a clean restore old iOS on each major release. Annoying as lose sky go registration but so worth it.

I have this model - it's been flawless so far (20 months) and is used every day. Mine is the wifi/4G version and was £459. The deal is excellent.

some basic details missing, like what version of Ipad is this? And what is the RAM on this?

Glad to help.

1GB (16GB is storage)

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That's for instore purchases, this deal is for Argos ebay??

They must have sold about 500 by now! where are they getting them all?

Well just as I needed one I think I shall have a dibble and buy one before they go

Still unable to make my mind up! :-(

What do these iPads do??

Thanks for post ,just ordered

Same! Hope they accept!

The refurb tab I bought from Argos/ebay is a total puppy.:disappointed:

wow that's pretty crap then

Clown. Don't you know what RAM is?

Now is it worth buying the new one coming this month or to get this?

This would be my sole reason for upgrading from an iPad 1, a few websites crash on loading.
I've also noticed its wi-fi is not as good as on an iPhone 5s.

But then the iPad 1 refuses to die, but if it did then this Air1 looks better value than the almost identical Air2

btw. 16Gb is fine for storage unless you really insist on loading movies to watch on the train.

i ordered, i just hope this will suit me for college stuff

Really?, I think the heat says otherwise. But then again you could just be trolling.

Just seen these brand new in my local Sainsburys reduced to £212, think I'd pay the extra if I was looking for one.

Just ordered on for my ... Nan!!

Just hope she meant this type of tablet!!

I would have a guess its not going to be the same price. just wondering if this has much life left in it after a year or so...

Anyone found a good price for the official Smart Case?

Yeah it's crap because for nearly 200 quid, you are getting a tablet which is well past its sell-by date. Seriously, 1gb of ram? This tablet is not going to last long with every more resource hungry apps and operating systems.

Should be fine for a year or 2 until apple update the os to cripple devices with less than 2gb ram. Still for the price I would say this is the one to get. by the time you need to upgrade there will be a better one or the "ipad pro mini" or whatever its called will be cheaper and you could probably sell this on for £100 (no way you would only lose £80 on the new one in 2 years)

For the money there is nothing even remotely close to the quality of an ipad air. If you think otherwise I would be interested to know

Well there's the samsung tab a 9.7, which has an extra 0.5gb of ram and boasts the longest battery life for standby and for wifi internet use. Sure, the screen quality is a bit potato, but why would you watch 4k movies on a 9 inch screen in the first place?

and then there's the Lenovo A2 A10-70., comparable screen quality to the ipad, it has 2gb of ram, has excellent battery life, albeit not as good as the samsung tab a 9.7.

You can buy both of those tablets for around or under £179

again no one buys ipad for the specs.its about the build quality.its simply is top tier.why else does the ipad air 2 keep coming top of the reviews despite been well over 1 year old and the ipad air 1 always makes it in top 10
i have the nexus 9 which has impressive specs better then ipad air 2 and better resolution then ipad air 2 and oh louder nicer speakers.
but it does appear flumsy and my experience with ipads is they do last.
would not even put lenovo or that samung in same class with nexus 9 talkless of ipad

Gonorrhea gets quite hot too, but still wouldn't say it was a "deal" :stuck_out_tongue:

Ordered one but changed my mind now! Thinking about it and if rather get the new one at the end of the month. How do I cancel it and get a refund? Can I just refuse delivery?

Out of stock now.

Gone, 3hrs overtime made me miss out. :disappointed:

Out of stock

iPad Mini 2nd Gen With Retina Display 7.9 Inch LED IOS Wi-fi 16GB - Space Grey Refurb - £159 [361443141087
Apple iPad Mini 7.9" Touchscreen Wi-Fi & Cellular 16GB - Black - £169 [351666402814]

Although like £179 new for 2nd gen rather pay extra

That is the 3rd gen iPad - not the 3rd gen iPad Air.

Currently the latest one is the iPad Air 2.

This deal was for the 1st gen iPad Air.

yeah I removed my comment about 30 seconds after posting it, you must of landed here pretty quickly haha.

For all those struggling along with their old iPad 2s just set them in DFU mode and do a clean restore. Then disable transparency, motion and background app refresh. Providing you don't try and overrun it with apps that weren't really designed for it then it should work reasonably well. Mine is great for the basics; email, browsing and streaming apps.
Hope this might help some of you.

to be honest a refurb from Argos eBay is complete luck of the draw.... bought my daughter a laptop at Christmas and on setting up the left hand side of the keyboard didn't work. offered refund or repair, it was Lenovo which has to be sent to Germany so they state av6 to 8 week turnaround. it's important to note that you will never be offered an exchange it will only ever be a repair or refund no matter if your have the item one day, week or month. it has taken my 4 returns and refunds to get one that up to now seems to be fully functioning. all faulty products need to be notified to Argos ebay, and general Argos store will take nothing to do with it. they send you a collect plus returns label for free.

had parcelforce text, delivery expected today

apple fan boy alert

got mine today from parcelforce. VERY happy

Pros:
* Top notch condition - looks brand new
* Packaged well
* delivered fast (less than 24 hours)
* 9.2 IOS which means better chances of a JB

Cons:
* No original packaging from Apple - selling on would be harder

Overall very 9/10 because was expecting a box but will keep it as its great for just £179.

Looks like the last few they sold were at the higher price of £235 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361443141088?clk_rvr_id=1002877926881

And people say Apple deals automatically get voted cold on HUKD.

Does anyone know what will be in the box and if it is the original box. Says on the page non original accessories but does that mean cheap leads or plugs or are they just covering themselves.

Anyone had any experience with argos refurbs?

Thamks op :smiley:

Thanks for the info! Great that yours was in good condition, what iOS was it on and were they the original cable and plug?

Thanks again :smiley:

what is it with you, 8 pages in and trying to take down an Apple deal which is one of the hottest deals of the week before it sold out, you would think you were a new user not one who has been here for 5 years and not posted a single deal. :disappointed: try and play nice on all deals.

I think the blurb in the ebay listing suggestion Argos would cover the warranty for 12 months, but I could be making this up, will check thanks.

It came with 9.2, and has an original cable (altho it needed cleaning up a bit) and plug, surprised to read that someone (above) received theirs without the original packaging so fingers crossed yours is all good.

It does but, if its got any Apple warranty left or hasn't been registered then better taking it back to Apple, that way you will get an immediate replacement rather than a refund or repair from Argos. Guess though if you went with an Apple replacement and had only a few months left of Apple warranty though Argos might not repair or refund for what is left of the 12 months warranty they would give.

Okay so hit or miss, not a problem for £179! Thanks, hope you enjoy yours :wink:

Sorry late reply I didn't see you had responded. You might want to actually try these devices. The ipad had much better performance than both of these devices and I would be very surprised by your claim of battery life. In my experience nothing comes close to ipads battery life. RAM is not equal to performance and especially so for ios as they are optimized for the lower RAM, there is no true multi tasking so extra RAM is a waste. The cpu and gpu in the ipads are always the best at the time. To get anything close to a ipad air user experience you would need something like a pixel c and even then for most it would be a worse experience because android just isn't as good on tablets. I say this as someone with both and ipad and an android tablet and actually really like my android tablet for the freedom you get with it (expandable storage, ability to install emulators etc) but I know that for most people an ipad will be better suited.

Yup, it's expired on the Apple side, if anything goes awry we'll have to deal with Argos' warranty process.

Can someone take a picture of the charger they received? Mine is taking an age to charge and it looks like they've shipped the wrong style charge with it. Mines shipped with a 10w charger instead of the 12w?

Mines just come in its original box. Good Grade A condition. Charger is a 10w.

Got mine didnt opened yet

Mine came today in brown box :disappointed:

Mine hasn't arrived yet. Did everyone get a text first?

Mine arrived. 2 of them. One has deep scratches at the back and other has dings/dents near the volume button. Buttons are gunned up with green water damage kind of stuff. Going back to where they came from.

mines been delivered or should I say they tried to deliver it

no text, just able to track it via the ebay tracking number on parcelforce

got to go home now and chase it up

This is mine ...



is it under warranty still ?

Checked eBay. Says not yet dispatched

*sigh* :disappointed:

Thanks though

You have 12mths warranty via Argos, keep a copy of your ebay purchase/paypal receipt, etc, and a screengrab of the listing won't hurt either.

Mine has a 12w charger (presume this is a newer gen ipad, not the original Air? ), this version: http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MD836B/B/apple-12w-usb-power-adapter

Not sure if there will be much difference, perhaps charging rate will be different.

Edit: you're right, it should be 10w, they stuck a 12w in mine, not charged it yet but hopefully it won't blow it's brains out when i plug it in. :smiley:

mine is also a 12w

welll the source for the battery life is from notebookcheck.net

Yea if you take a look that's a theoretical 49 hours idle (not standby i.e. min screen brightness doing nothing - a very weird test) My ipad mini 2 gets about 15 hours screen on time with a 20 days standby. I've not had another device get close to that for standby time (not that its a huge deal but nice anyway)

They've standardized the test, not just on min brightness, but for wifi surfing which I tthink involves a webpage being loaded a set amount of time. I think that's the fairest way you can compare devices, seems thorough to me. Of course, I've never ever used an apple device myself and I don't have the samsung tab a, so I can't really say for sure based on personal usage.

Not really happy with the purchase

Pile of dung mine is. scratches on the screen, back of the screen and no box.plus it feels a little strange when pressing on the screen. Won't be buying reconditioned from Argos again

I've not gotten mine yet, however if your not happy with its condition are you allowed to apply for a refund on that basis?

where does it say free to send back, page says 30 days and buyer payes?

ours not great condition, massive chunks out of the back and bubbles on the screen, and an odd hollow sound when you tap the screen, none of our others are like that :disappointed:

return item on ebay. sent them a message and they got back to me. sending back via collect +

Mine seems OK a couple of marks where they took it a part and fixed it I presume. Other than that the case and screen seem new. It seems a lttle bit snappier than the iPad 4 it is replacing.

Not got much hope for when mine arrives on the condition

Give it a whack with a hammer and say it came like it.

At least it will save some other poor sap buying it again.

well after reading various comments this afternoon, it was with caution I picked mine up earlier

was hoping for a Apple box, got a plain brown one
also things didn't sound good, something rattling in the box

However once opened, it was wrapped in a large bubble sleeve inside
absolutely made up, there's a ting, tiny scratch on the back, apart from that its 99.9% perfect

was going to keep it/share with the wife, the daughters now claimed it

Not sure if its been mentioned, but the Model number for mine is Model No.A1474 - MD788B/A

Sending back mine too, arrived with immaculate screen, however the back has a deep scratch and the most worrying is that dent right under the apple logo.

Not buying refurb from Argos ebay again, not anywhere near to their description of managers special.

I used my ebay voucher now cnt return it chances of losing my voucher worth 20£

Wasn't quite the quality I was expecting. Mine came with some scratches on the back. Screen is scratch free and the edges are free of dents. Was a little disappointed but I'm keeping mine.

Well i got two. Both in unacceptable condition. Dents and deep scratched.
Im pretty sure these are the abused ipads displayed in argos stores. Non genuine chargers. No box. Better look on gumtree to buy it.
Absolutely pieces of ****.

Anyone have photos of theirs? Seems some good and some were bad nick from the comments. Mine not here yet, hopefully tomorrow morning.

See I am in the Republic of Ireland, I ordered this via Parcel Motel where the iPad gets delivered to the HQ in the NI (UK), the courier than takes it from there then down to me in the ROI. So on Argos part, it's arrived. Parcel Motel will drop it off to me tomorrow morning. I did this as Argos Uk don't deliver to the ROI so this loophole helps massively. I just hope it in good nick as it'll be a pain to try and send it back! Lol

Mine has arrived in original box. Looks like accessories all brand new. The ipad has not got a mark i can see at the min. Also checked and I have warranty until May 2016...happy days....hope it works!!

No original box but the ipad is perfect front and back looks brand new also came with apple charger

My son's one seems in pretty good nick, original box and charger, no marks on the iPad and he has tried it out and all seems smooth so far, Shame that others have had some bad ones, i would have been gutted, even though this one is ok, I think, judging by what has happened to some unfortunate buyers, I wouldn't chance it again. I suppose the saving of another £70 of the rrp is just too tempting

Sadly my one has bad dents on the back near the logo. Definitely not manager special. It was bought as a present and I'm trying to return it. Sent a request on eBay but haven't heard yet.

BTW Smart Fone Store has a couple of brand new iPad Air 2 Cellular 16GB in stock for £315, ordered one for my little one this morning.

Yes it's a lot more expensive, however it's the newer model, 4G and is brand new sealed so won't look like it's been in a blender.

http://www.smartfonestore.com/buy_iPad_apple+ipad_Unlocked_Air+2+16GB+WiFi+Cellular_Silver_N.aspx

£5 Quidco too.

Anyone got reply from argos for the request to return the item ? Did mine last night still no reply

Thanks

Just a big thanks to everyone for all the feedback replies (feedback on hukd is often the best reason to come back to a closed thread), useful for people like me, that were hesitant-for future reference (The 1GB ram put me off upgrading+being too similar) though I need a new one. The large iPad Pro has 4GB, so ram is going to be a issue with iOS updates going forward, to mark a cut-off for older models (my take).

Would be useful to add a rough time/date ordered, if you got in early or late with this deal to work out what order Argos distributed them, i.e. Pristine first, tatty ones later, or other way round, or just random, always good to know.

Mine arrived today in poor secondhand condition. It was floating around a large cardboard box! It had a 2 inch bash to the corner. Really disgraceful of Argos to advertise this as anything than 'C' grade stock IMHO. Look out for the next batch on the Argos ebay outlet of all the returns. Needless to say return requested and I won't be paying for postage. I should be charging Argos for wasting my time.

Looks like it has been luck of the draw, mine arrived lose in a cardboard box, not done much with it yet but there are only two tiny scratches on the rear that you don't notice unless you're really looking for them.

For those who are still wanting an iPad air, my son bought one from here which turned out well for him fortunately, now I would like one too, I notice John Lewis has them at £249 with two year guarantee, do you think that the iPad air will drop still further with the new iPad or will it go up? appreciate any comments, I was an android user, have a Nexus 7 2013, and an lg g2, but fed up with constant lock ups and poor software and firmware, while a lot cheaper, it feels second rate to apple, never thought I would say that!

Based on your 'recommendations' to others I see purely base quality on specifications. O.k., please enjoy your other tablets that will never see an update.

iPad Air has been discontinued. The price is only going to go one way.

There wouldn't have been order such as pristine first as that would've meant some kind of quality control.

They would have had pallets of returned iPads that some work experience kid would've turned on, then off and threw it back in a box. Some people will come lucky and get one that's been returned in good condition and others will get knackered ones.

It's the same on every Argos refurbed deal posted on here.

If you live nead a clearance store you can go down and see this in practice. All products graded the same and you pick the least tattiest.

Unlike official Apple refurbs which are pretty much like new.

So do you think it is worth hanging on a bit longer? The deal from John Lewis finishes on 30th March, thought of ordering one now, hanging on to it a month without using it and seeing which way the prices go, then I could return it if the price drops some more.

I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered

john lewis will refund the difference think its up to 30 days if you find it cheaper else where.

Relieved and overjoyed! Original box, charger and the IPad hasn't a mark on it, it was even wrapped in the clear sticker stuff, so I imagine it wasn't used itself. The charger is very tatty and tired so this may have made it non resellable.

Wow! Looks like a win win situation then, thanks!

Mines due for delivery Tuesday. Hoping for a good one. Fully expecting a crap one :wink:

This guy must have sold over 1000, and for the most I can imagine went through this hotukdeals site, so if the ones that complained on the forum are the only bad ones, then the law of averages are hopefully in your favour!

Don't forget there's a lot more watchers on here than actual posting members.

It's also not just the ones that turn up looking knackered, there's also the ones that faults appear after some use, probably why they were returned in the first place.

Very true actually, just hope my son's one lasts as I talked him into it!

Your money, although once they sell out, it's game over.

I'd be looking at other ways of getting it cheaper, combining it with Morrisons Fuel Save and O2 Priority (not sure if that's still on) and buying from Currys.

Personally I wouldn't pay £250 for a discontinued 2 1/2 year old tablet. I went for the Air 2 with cellular for £315 for my monkey, normally retails at £450.

I ordered a laptop a while ago from Argos Ebay for someone and it failed after a couple of months. They didn't back anything up and lost loads of work. That was the last straw with Argos, had too many bad new and refurb items from them.

Tesco Ebay are bizarre, I had a PS4 from them that was described as new with marked packaging. It was clearly used and the pad had chunks missing, I kept requesting a refund and they made me three cash offers for compensation. Took me ages to get them to actually except it back.

From your experience, I can imagine you will stay away from refurbished eBay deals, very disappointing that they sell these things like they have been professionally checked over.

Professionally is a very loose term, technically anyone being paid for a service is a professional.

Argos have been upto no good way before refurbs on Ebay. They've been caught selling used as new in their stores several times.

When mine arrived the iPad hadn't a single blemish, I wonder was it used at all. It was wrapped in the clear plastic sticker like new too. Only issue was the charger which according to apple was a faulty charger.

It's very possible the iPad itself was new or used very seldom and the whole thing may went insold on this basis I believe.

So the gamble worked out perfect in getting a new ipad pretty much. The changer is not working but I am being sent a replacement by apple. Delighted with the unit itself.

I have just received mine, it was in a brown box but having opened it up, I am over the moon. One extremely tiny mark near the charge port. Other than that it's like new. Charger and cable all good. I'm a very very happy customer. I have checked Apple warranty and that has expired but 12 months with Argos will suit me fine.

Mine arrived today, came in an apple box. Had a tiny mark by the charge port. Other then that it looks new. How do I check if the warranty is expired with apple?

-deleted, wrong thread! Doh

Thank you. Says valid purchase date but no other info

Mine arrived in plain box today. Great condition. No marks I can see on the back. The screen has some very light marks that I can only see when tilting the screen so that light is reflected. Typing this on it now. All good. :smile:

Collected mine from the local post office as I was on holiday when I bit the deal.

Came in brown box all loose, didn't like the sound of it at all ☹️.

Opened it anyway and was amazed to find a PERFECT iPad inside, no marks, scratches nothing

Sounds exactly like mine
lose in the box, yet when opened 99.9% perfect

got mine today in the original box and its perfect, best purchase ever

How did you manage to get a new charger? Did you ring Apple and tell them? The charger with mine looks tatty - could I ring them or does it need to be proved to not work?