Can this handle xHamster?

I wonder if anyone has actually had a CPU burn out on them in less than 20 years. Dead on arrival yes, dead due to overvoltage yes, but dead through normal under-warranty use?

bare in mind this is the OEM version with a 1 year warranty, the Retail version has 3 years

Same could be said for a lot of things, not saying its a bad deal just saying some people would like a little more warranty for a small outlay

Yes, but these skylake chips are fragile and are known to crack under the weight of air coolers. No harm in a longer warranty.

They crack? WTF?
Intel just had to move to 14nm, it's way too thin and therefore fragile! Give me back my 28nm CPUs or better yet make that 0.32 microm!

the cracking issue is only really an issue if you transport your computer a lot

Good deal.

Can this handle xHamster?

Will this handle Tetris on max settings?

Literally tried to buy a GPU today and they cancelled my order and set my account to inactive and I'm waiting to see why, despite using an account I've used before with all the same payment and delivery information. Someone I know had the same thing happen. They asking them for ID and utility bill and then wait 48 hours, by that time deal will probably be gone. What a horrendous situation.

Great price based on recent trend of nearer £300 or more but still a bit too much IMHO.

they get uglier at higher res anyways.

normally I would agree but its a skylake, skylakes have that new design that tells you when you need to upgrade by bending and I wouldn't touch without more than a year warranty.
yes yes I know its only if its overtightened and only with a few cpu coolers and mostly if you move it BUT that said that's how its happened in a short space of time, we are yet to see the amount of bend that happens with normal tightening over a longer period.

Got to vote cold unfortunately as if you are buying a skylake you probably need a mobo too (unless its to replace a bent skylake chip) on dabs they are doing any z170 board with the retail 6700k with 3 year warranty at £30 off (go to motherboard you want then go to bundles at bottom).

The bending is a non issue and that's due to over tighten the CPU, that's classified as "user error" so Intel won't replace the CPU no matter which warranty you have.

I will wait for AMD Zen release. If there is any truth in what AMD is saying about Zen, then Intel will have to lower their prices by a healthy margin :smiley:

Tbh, i'd much rather pay £5 more to get it from somewhere else than to chance ebuyer again. Absolutely horrible customer service.

I'd concur with avoiding eBuyer, I've had some issues sorting warranty replacements with them, especially on sale items which they've refunded instead of replacing leaving me without the item or enough money to get a replacement.

If it matches Haswel IPCl I'll be very surprised.

Being 'clock for clock' means almost nothing now days. If your IPC is much worse, you simply can't compete.

I think any 'rumor' surrounding AMD chips deserve no accolades. If they release a chip and it's good, talk about it then, but until that? They have done nothing of consequence in the last 2 years of CPU.

amazing processor that's for sure

Silly thing is they've known this would likely be a problem for years. I've got a couple of socket 2011 sandybridge based xeons. Really beefy packages, the heatspreader is soldered on or uses some hefty epoxy or something. If the heatsink is over-tightened it'll apply enough pressure to bend the CPU and stop the centre pins connecting. So they've known problems could arise for at least 3 years before skylake, because they did on physically sturdier chips.

****Whacks head**** :confused:

The 14nm is the feature size of the process, nothing to do with the thickness of the silicon!

If these have problems with cracking due to overzealous tightening of heatsinks than the package is to blame, indicating that intel may have cheaped out on the package in this series and will probably beef up the next revision (if its a major issue) :disappointed: (The Si substrate material may or may not be thicker but the package should be designed to protect it)

(The PCB of the package is thinner physically - nothing to do with the process or Si as I suspected (working with Si all the time myself) LINK: http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/88628-intel-skylake-cpus-bending-due-cooler-mount-pressure/)

I'm building an i7-6700K system today, the customer has a H110i water cooler so I'll let everyone know if the CPU bends or it's not compatible with the system. Obviously I'm rather hoping it won't bend! :smiley:

Plus to answer an earlier question, I have seen a few PCs in my time in the last 5 years or so where the CPU has failed, so yes it can happen.

It had a direct effect on silicon thickness :smiley:

oh boy silicon wafers and semiconductors. Brings back memories.

I have one, with the H80i, it is absolutely fine.

I probably should have made it clearer that I'm joking... isn't it fun to remember that lithography used to be measured in micrometer, not nanometer?
Nevertheless, it is very poor quality if the CPU can physically break. Shame on Intel.

Lol, sorry didn catch that one :P

Is this a Joke>? :smile: - the thing your looking at is the PCB of the package - the silicon is soldered onto it under the metal heatspreader.

Edit: just realised the heatspreaders are removed in that photo but the Si is attached to the upper side of those PCBs

I'll rephrase. The die shrink has impacted PCB thickness as shown in the image.

Same type of thing happened with me over a GTX 660 graphics card, never used them after that. They used to be a dire company when the started out with hopelessly poor packaging on their deliveries, this was some 15+ years ago, then they seemed to sort things out and I worked for a company that put in £10-20K orders a month with them, buy 300 motherboards at a time. So I started to use them again, then they messed me about on that order and I gave up on them.

I guess there's plenty of people that get on OK with them and that's just one experience I had with them.

I used the same everything as my last order and somehow they think it's not me! Now asking for my ID. Not going to give it to them, not going to respond to them, not going to shop with them again.