Not a bad price reduced from 366
RAM can be upgraded for £15
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huangxq2
26 Mar 1611#8
The Probooks are much better quality laptops and cheaper too if you trade-up.
I have compare HP 250 with Probook side by side before, HP 250 is not good, Probook is so much better.
Do not buy non-FHD, on-board GPU consumer laptops for £300 nowadays. There are normally better quality business laptops with same/similar specs at similar/cheaper price. You pay the same/less money for better laptops.
If can trade-in, probook with i5-6200u, or i3-6100u with M.2 SSD is around £200.
Bought some of these for our school (minus the SSD). Good, solid laptops with a decent screen, good keyboard and (an increasing rarity in PC notebooks) a good touchpad.
That price with an SSD and a current gen Skylake i5 processor is an absolute bargain. That's going to be a very good laptop for a good few years. Get one.
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UnclePotter
26 Mar 16#1
Good price for an ssd drive laptop. Bit small but a lot of stuff can be kept in the cloud. Heat added.
Common Sense to UnclePotter
26 Mar 16#6
Difference between 120GB and 240GB HDD is around £15. Why put such small drives in the first place?
Djd1981
26 Mar 16#2
Can you select to upgrade the RAM as part of the deal, i cant seem to find an option to do this?
At least, we're starting to see low-mid priced PC's with SSD's installed.... it's amazing so few laptop and desktops from HP, Dell etc have SSD's and it makes such a difference.
I just hope LaptopDirect actually have this in stock, I recently ordered a very well priced Dell desktop from them and they said they had no stock, then the price goes up a few days later and they're still showing stock...and then it goes back down low again as they have done for the month after I tried to buy one.
spannerzone
26 Mar 16#5
2.2% Cashback from Topcashback
nedford
26 Mar 161#7
unless it's an ssd in a Mac then the difference is 100 pounds
huangxq2
26 Mar 1611#8
The Probooks are much better quality laptops and cheaper too if you trade-up.
I have compare HP 250 with Probook side by side before, HP 250 is not good, Probook is so much better.
Do not buy non-FHD, on-board GPU consumer laptops for £300 nowadays. There are normally better quality business laptops with same/similar specs at similar/cheaper price. You pay the same/less money for better laptops.
If can trade-in, probook with i5-6200u, or i3-6100u with M.2 SSD is around £200.
Why? Cannot the same SanDisk or Crucial SSD used in Windows machines be put in a Mac?
I am referring to prices of drives and not computers sold. If a 240GB SSD costs £10-£15 more than a £120GB at source, it seems rather ridiculous to put such small drives in laptops at the point of manufacture.
cruisecars
26 Mar 16#10
im upgrading from a toshiba c660 i3 is this alot better ?
cruisecars
26 Mar 16#11
can i downgrade this to windows 7 64 bit ?
PFC Hudson to cruisecars
26 Mar 16#14
Why would you want to?
Windows 10 is actually good and is the last proper Windows and will as such always be supported whereas support for Windows 7 (As good as it is) will someday stop
joealder50
26 Mar 161#12
But if you haven't got a laptop to trade up these are much more expensive. For £317 you won't get much better especially having a ssd
cruisecars
26 Mar 162#15
i prefer it
liveinabin
26 Mar 163#16
Bought some of these for our school (minus the SSD). Good, solid laptops with a decent screen, good keyboard and (an increasing rarity in PC notebooks) a good touchpad.
That price with an SSD and a current gen Skylake i5 processor is an absolute bargain. That's going to be a very good laptop for a good few years. Get one.
PFC Hudson
26 Mar 16#17
I gathered that but for what reason(s) when Windows 10 is better in every way?
As for your question, as long as the laptop allows you to enter the BIOS and change the boot order (so that you can install Windows 7 from a disc or USB stick) and you have an unused Windows 7 license key you can format the drive and do a fresh install of Windows 7, downgrading as you say
hairyboxxox
26 Mar 161#18
So do I
delfinostar
26 Mar 161#19
Spot on mate! I got myself probook 450 g3 with i5 and ssd for £506 but with £50 instant cashback, £ 200 trade in cashback on this model and £12 quidco works out around £244
Business laptops are much better value for money than consumer and not even thinking going back to HDD anymore.
huangxq2
26 Mar 16#20
So just to reword your last sentence if you have an old device (tablet/laptop/PC), then you have a lot to gain.
Both laptops come with SSD, that is not a difference. You can add HDD and have both SSD and HDD in Probook 450, that is an advantage too. Do not know about if HP 250 can do that too.
If you have not got an old device (tablet/laptop/PC), you can always buy a cheaper one to trade-up, add max £50 to the end price, still work out cheaper.
Windows Pro on the Probook is another plus.
One major point you missed is that HP 250 and Probook 450 are not on the same level even when they are the same specs. Probook 450 is way better than HP 250. It is not just in the mind. You can touch and feel the differences from the first minute you get hold of them.
So whether you have an old device or not (buy an old device cheaply), you can get better quality laptop for less money.
The hurdle is you have to go through the trouble to claim cashbacks. If you cannot be bother, then you do not know what you missed.
joealder50
26 Mar 161#21
Not to crap on my own post but I ended up buying it directly from Hp it has been down priced to match Easter sales it's £326 but top cash back are offering 4% and I'd rather buy direct.
joealder50
26 Mar 161#22
Sorry I still don't really understand this.
So I could buy the cheapest slowest laptop available on eBay or gumtree
Or a 9" tablet that's worth £30
And Hp will give me £250 for it to put towards another laptop no matter what I send in?
Do they always follow through or is it dependant and how long does it usually take?
Thanks
huangxq2
26 Mar 16#23
Yes, if you have not got an old device in working condition, buy a 2nd hand 9 inch tablet is the easiest option.
I have done this and an in the process of doing it again, but you do have the slight worry that they could refuse and you'd be left with an expensive laptop you might not otherwise have chosen. This has never happened so far though and the savings are worth the slight risk. HP Probooks are great quality devices.
joealder50
26 Mar 161#25
And they always give the full amount even if it's practically worthless as long as it meets the requirements? I've got an old toshiba laptop that's super slow but works
And they will give me £250 towards a new laptop for this plus £50 cash back? The only risk is if they refuse and you are past the 14 days your stuck with a laptop you expected to get for almost half the price.
I just ordered the 250 and can't cancel because there not open on the weekend will just have to return
huangxq2
26 Mar 161#26
I agree with you on everything.
HP Probook, especially the newer models are really good, they are good quality and looking, at the same time, not bulky or heavy unlike the old models. If you used to use a consumer laptop other than Ultrabook, you will spot the quality difference from the very first minute.
When comes to cashback, it is never 100%. But so far I have trade-up 5 old devices, including 2 for my employer too (£300 each is really sweet in October 2015 one month only), they all went very smooth, did not have any surprises so far. Once you know how it works, it is actually very easy to do.
If someone is worried about trade-up cashback, do not open the laptop, as soon as you get the invoice, apply for trade-up cashback. HP normally validate your claim in 1-2 working days. Once they validated you claim, you are pretty much safe. If in the unlikely event your claim is rejected, you have 14 days from receiving delivery to return under DSR. It has not happen to me yet, and I have not heard from other people too.
huangxq2
26 Mar 16#27
How much your old device worth is irrelevant. I do not think HP get much out of your old device. They are simply trying to sell new laptops.
Two seperate cashbacks, a straight £50, no string attached, you claimed 30 to 60 days from your invoice date. This one is simple and has no risk. The only risk is that you forget to claim in the time frame.
Another trade-up cashback, how much you get depend on how much you paid for the new laptop. Check details in my previous links. For the 450 G3 with i5-6200u and SSD, is £200, not £250. You can claim as soon as you get your invoice, HP validate claim in 1-2 working days. You should have the outcome long before the 14 days if you apply quickly. If you claim is validated, then you are very much safe.
If your old device match their requirements, they give you full amount. If it does not or not fully working, HP has a list of deductions in the terms. I have always get the full amount and both cashbacks as I make sure my old devices obey to the requirements.
Snapdrag0n
26 Mar 16#28
Decent specs but build quality on these is not as good as HP Probooks or Elitebooks, which you can occasionally pick up for around this price or less with the current trade in offers.
teerex
26 Mar 16#29
Thanks
fishfash
26 Mar 16#30
Thanks, went for the i3 pro book.
Is the trade up offer available to individuals or just for business's?
Thanks.
huangxq2
26 Mar 162#31
The answers are in the other thread as well as many cashback questions.
Last year, Dabs called HP and confirmed individual end user can claim both cashbacks on the same laptop, and told us the way to claim. The basic logic is you are a sole trader, the business name is the same as your personal name.
HP did not ask any questions last year when we claim.
This year, few people are been asked about their business names by HP. Just go with the sole trader story. Only HMRC has sole trader details. Sole trader information is not publicly available, not like a company.
cruisecars
26 Mar 16#32
nothing wrong with this one listed waste of time trying to get cash back etc best post a new deal if you think it's so great !
1lluminati
26 Mar 16#33
Good price for the specs, shame HP laptops are trash though.
gxbdhx
26 Mar 16#34
Well I always thought that too but it actually not. Depending on your hardware but on my home pc I had to reinstall windows 2 times in one year because they mess up after windows uldate which you can't opt-out from. And some other ocassional glitches.
For last windows its actually pretty bad I'm not gonna even start talking about tablets which is usable but far from great. Good thing is that windows ussualy get a lot of 3rd party modes which might make it much better. :smiley:
cruisecars
26 Mar 16#35
YAWN troll..
1lluminati
26 Mar 16#36
OK, even though I dislike HP laptops I'm interested in this.
Trade it in, and get £175 off the HP laptop making it £292.49?
Thanks
haslitt
26 Mar 162#37
Yes. But read the other threads to make sure you understand how the trade up works.
andreasuk
26 Mar 16#38
Its not that great.
Dontforg3t
26 Mar 16#39
I've had nothing but problems with HP laptops. Put me off ever buy one again.
huangxq2
26 Mar 161#40
As I said, if you cannot be bothered to claim cashback. Then I guess this is good for you.
Probook is a much nicer laptop than HP 250, there is no reason to deny it, or maybe you do not know that yet.
Done that already.
huangxq2
26 Mar 16#41
HP consumer laptops often get bad feedbacks.
But HP business laptops are proper quality, we use at work, and I have only heard good things about them.
So better distinguish this two types rather than dismissed HP completely.
huangxq2
26 Mar 16#42
You do know the laptop in your link is a HP consumer laptop which you may end up dislike again.
As you already think HP laptops are trash, I guess you had bad experience with HP consumer laptops, then do not do that to yourself again.
Try something different, a different brand or HP business laptops.
1lluminati
27 Mar 16#43
Yup I know it's a HP laptop but it seems cheap with cashback, for pretty decent specs.
I would love a similar kind of deal on Toshiba laptops if you know of any?
huangxq2
27 Mar 16#44
The Pavilion does not qualify for any cashbacks.
You should have a look of post 8. I already give recommendations.
Kev`
27 Mar 16#45
Why does the Pro not have a FHD screen? Can't see a 1920 one listed above. Deal breaker for me. :disappointed:
Yasmaster
27 Mar 16#46
May be a daft question - network connectivity says Bluetooth 4 but no mention of built-in WiFi? Surely it's WiFi enabled?
rikkif1990
28 Mar 16#47
Anyone know whether a Windows Vista laptop older than 6 years old would qualify under a deduction?
huangxq2
28 Mar 16#48
Yes, wireless.
huangxq2
28 Mar 16#49
No.
FTOdude170
28 Mar 162#50
I also went for the probook business cashback offer the other day, and bought a cheap 9 inch tablet off gumtree for trade up. huangxq2 knows his stuff and guided me through it a bit, but no difference to what's in his advice above, or other thread posted too. they pretty much ask you 3 questions on the form you fill in for the trade up cashback, are you a vat registered company, answer being no, how many people do you employ, answer being 1 as a sole trader, yourself, and finally you're asked the business name, which you pop in when you order anyway. that's it. I was accepted the same day for the cashback based on that information in the form, and then was sent the postage stuff over email for the tablet. it's worth the risk :-)
the1stcoke
28 Mar 161#51
Lovely people, I am trying to trawl these posts to find the exact origin of the £50 claim, but struggling for a definitive. It may be because Walking Dead is on. Is it via this link: https://hpcashback.com/gb/en/pages/cashback/qualifying
Or somewhere else? Thanks in advance...
huangxq2
28 Mar 161#52
Yes. Link is correct.
You can only claim the £50, 30 to 60 days after the invoice date, cannot claim early.
FrozenKaos
2 Apr 16#53
I won't touch HP unless its free.
cruisecars
5 Apr 16#54
Well thats a pointless comment same as i wont touch toshiba,hp,dell,lg, all the same
lkl265 to cruisecars
9 Apr 16#56
Has anyone received their trade-in cashback ?. If so, how long did it take ?.
saeedp
7 Apr 16#55
I'd say maybe they bought a bulk anount of 120s and saved more this way. but having dealt the returns reps of this company they showed they barely have brain cells to share between them
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RAM can be upgraded for £15
Top comments
I have compare HP 250 with Probook side by side before, HP 250 is not good, Probook is so much better.
Do not buy non-FHD, on-board GPU consumer laptops for £300 nowadays. There are normally better quality business laptops with same/similar specs at similar/cheaper price. You pay the same/less money for better laptops.
If can trade-in, probook with i5-6200u, or i3-6100u with M.2 SSD is around £200.
i3-6100u + M.2 SSD, £50 + £125 cashbacks
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P5T14ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
i5-6200u + M.2 SSD, £50 + £200 cashbacks
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P4P52ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
I5-6200U + HDD, £50 + £175 cashback
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P4P54ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
4.24% TCB on top.
Read the deal below for details on cashback
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222
That price with an SSD and a current gen Skylake i5 processor is an absolute bargain. That's going to be a very good laptop for a good few years. Get one.
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I just hope LaptopDirect actually have this in stock, I recently ordered a very well priced Dell desktop from them and they said they had no stock, then the price goes up a few days later and they're still showing stock...and then it goes back down low again as they have done for the month after I tried to buy one.
I have compare HP 250 with Probook side by side before, HP 250 is not good, Probook is so much better.
Do not buy non-FHD, on-board GPU consumer laptops for £300 nowadays. There are normally better quality business laptops with same/similar specs at similar/cheaper price. You pay the same/less money for better laptops.
If can trade-in, probook with i5-6200u, or i3-6100u with M.2 SSD is around £200.
i3-6100u + M.2 SSD, £50 + £125 cashbacks
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P5T14ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
i5-6200u + M.2 SSD, £50 + £200 cashbacks
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P4P52ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
I5-6200U + HDD, £50 + £175 cashback
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=P4P54ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
4.24% TCB on top.
Read the deal below for details on cashback
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222
I am referring to prices of drives and not computers sold. If a 240GB SSD costs £10-£15 more than a £120GB at source, it seems rather ridiculous to put such small drives in laptops at the point of manufacture.
Windows 10 is actually good and is the last proper Windows and will as such always be supported whereas support for Windows 7 (As good as it is) will someday stop
That price with an SSD and a current gen Skylake i5 processor is an absolute bargain. That's going to be a very good laptop for a good few years. Get one.
As for your question, as long as the laptop allows you to enter the BIOS and change the boot order (so that you can install Windows 7 from a disc or USB stick) and you have an unused Windows 7 license key you can format the drive and do a fresh install of Windows 7, downgrading as you say
Business laptops are much better value for money than consumer and not even thinking going back to HDD anymore.
Both laptops come with SSD, that is not a difference. You can add HDD and have both SSD and HDD in Probook 450, that is an advantage too. Do not know about if HP 250 can do that too.
If you have not got an old device (tablet/laptop/PC), you can always buy a cheaper one to trade-up, add max £50 to the end price, still work out cheaper.
Windows Pro on the Probook is another plus.
One major point you missed is that HP 250 and Probook 450 are not on the same level even when they are the same specs. Probook 450 is way better than HP 250. It is not just in the mind. You can touch and feel the differences from the first minute you get hold of them.
So whether you have an old device or not (buy an old device cheaply), you can get better quality laptop for less money.
The hurdle is you have to go through the trouble to claim cashbacks. If you cannot be bother, then you do not know what you missed.
So I could buy the cheapest slowest laptop available on eBay or gumtree
Or a 9" tablet that's worth £30
And Hp will give me £250 for it to put towards another laptop no matter what I send in?
Do they always follow through or is it dependant and how long does it usually take?
Thanks
For details of HP cashback, they are summarised in the thread, a lot questions and answers too.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-probook-450-g3-newest-business-laptop-i3-6100u-score-higher-than-i5-5200u-4gb-2415061?p=27595222
And they will give me £250 towards a new laptop for this plus £50 cash back? The only risk is if they refuse and you are past the 14 days your stuck with a laptop you expected to get for almost half the price.
I just ordered the 250 and can't cancel because there not open on the weekend will just have to return
HP Probook, especially the newer models are really good, they are good quality and looking, at the same time, not bulky or heavy unlike the old models. If you used to use a consumer laptop other than Ultrabook, you will spot the quality difference from the very first minute.
When comes to cashback, it is never 100%. But so far I have trade-up 5 old devices, including 2 for my employer too (£300 each is really sweet in October 2015 one month only), they all went very smooth, did not have any surprises so far. Once you know how it works, it is actually very easy to do.
If someone is worried about trade-up cashback, do not open the laptop, as soon as you get the invoice, apply for trade-up cashback. HP normally validate your claim in 1-2 working days. Once they validated you claim, you are pretty much safe. If in the unlikely event your claim is rejected, you have 14 days from receiving delivery to return under DSR. It has not happen to me yet, and I have not heard from other people too.
Two seperate cashbacks, a straight £50, no string attached, you claimed 30 to 60 days from your invoice date. This one is simple and has no risk. The only risk is that you forget to claim in the time frame.
Another trade-up cashback, how much you get depend on how much you paid for the new laptop. Check details in my previous links. For the 450 G3 with i5-6200u and SSD, is £200, not £250. You can claim as soon as you get your invoice, HP validate claim in 1-2 working days. You should have the outcome long before the 14 days if you apply quickly. If you claim is validated, then you are very much safe.
If your old device match their requirements, they give you full amount. If it does not or not fully working, HP has a list of deductions in the terms. I have always get the full amount and both cashbacks as I make sure my old devices obey to the requirements.
Is the trade up offer available to individuals or just for business's?
Thanks.
Last year, Dabs called HP and confirmed individual end user can claim both cashbacks on the same laptop, and told us the way to claim. The basic logic is you are a sole trader, the business name is the same as your personal name.
HP did not ask any questions last year when we claim.
This year, few people are been asked about their business names by HP. Just go with the sole trader story. Only HMRC has sole trader details. Sole trader information is not publicly available, not like a company.
For last windows its actually pretty bad I'm not gonna even start talking about tablets which is usable but far from great. Good thing is that windows ussualy get a lot of 3rd party modes which might make it much better. :smiley:
Could I buy this laptop
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T9P13EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
£489 * 0.95.6 (4.4% Topcashback) = £467.49
Then buy this cheap tablet
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KB901-9-touch-screen-Android-4-0-Tablet-Wi-Fi-Camera-G-Sensor-White-/262346692666?hash=item3d1514d83a:g:hBMAAOSw2ENW8IrE
Trade it in, and get £175 off the HP laptop making it £292.49?
Thanks
Probook is a much nicer laptop than HP 250, there is no reason to deny it, or maybe you do not know that yet.
Done that already.
HP consumer laptops often get bad feedbacks.
But HP business laptops are proper quality, we use at work, and I have only heard good things about them.
So better distinguish this two types rather than dismissed HP completely.
As you already think HP laptops are trash, I guess you had bad experience with HP consumer laptops, then do not do that to yourself again.
Try something different, a different brand or HP business laptops.
I would love a similar kind of deal on Toshiba laptops if you know of any?
You should have a look of post 8. I already give recommendations.
Or somewhere else? Thanks in advance...
You can only claim the £50, 30 to 60 days after the invoice date, cannot claim early.
Thanks.