Or allows you to turn it off when not needed!

You will need to remove the link between LS and LR. Then you need a 5 core cable from the boiler to the hive receiver and connect as follows:

Boiler L - Receiver L
Boiler N - Receiver N
Boiler LS - Receiver 1
Boiler LR - Receiver 3
Boiler earth (green/yellow) - receiver earth terminal

University of codswallop. it learns nothing and it takes your control and laughs at you and wastes energy what planet are you on?

​I think it's possible to add illiterate to the accusations that you are rude. I *used* to be in the industry. Left it to go to a totally different working world. I this have no vested interest in these being successful or not. Here's a few actual facts for you though: heating bill 2014 - £1175. Heating bill 2015, £875. Change to prices, minus 5%. The rest? Intelligent heating. Lifestyle changes mean I had the heating on more. However, you household thermostat, that yellow dial on the wall, or your manufacturer issued digital one, is accurate to between 2 and 3 degrees. Nest, Tado and hive along with my old lot, offer accuracy to 0.5 degrees. The effect of your system is that your stat aims for 20 degrees, hits target and then heads on up to 22. (overheated energy wasted). It gets there, and then slams on the brakes, heading back down to 20 as it's too warm. It misses 20 and hits 18. (underheated). Your wife/husband/master shivers in the arm chair at the four degree swing, and walks over and cranks the stat to 22 degrees. The cycle repeats and you are wasting energy. This isn't conjecture. It's an environment agency doctrine generated to ask people to improve their heating habits.

Let's move past the bit where I am right and you are wrong and move onto your troll like tendencies. Does it make your heat hotter by insulting someone on a social platform for sh*ts and giggles? Does it stoke your coals? Well done big man. Good for you.

Technology isn't for everyone. I sold it ethically and with industry leading data and knowledge. It sounds like you need to climb down off your soap box and burn it to keep warm.

Back up now?

Same price on amazon

This or the nest v3? Any advice? Thanks.

Same price on Amazon too

...need something like this to control individual rooms, rather than the whole house, and it starts to get very expensive when you start adding zones. Evohome might be more cost effective for this possibly, not sure, any thoughts?

At a time when the world is trying to reduce our carbon footprint, a device that turns the burners on before you get home is a shocking invention, behind the outdoor heater.

Any deals on the upgrade kit? Only want the shiny new thermostat!

tado seems better than both?

Im an installer for both hive and nest. Nest is by far the more superior thermostat. If you want the gimmicks of being able to control your heating while your out then yes hive is for you, but if you want intelligent control over your heating... go for nest! Also if you are with npower you can get nest for an extra £5

Do these have to be installed by a engineer?

just purchased the heating one only as got a combi boiler. Hoping able to install myself? thoughts welcomed

If youve got british gas cover, get them round for a fault, and while they are there, they can supply and fit for 149quid

They can't sell a self install kit and then not honour the warranty on it.

As for the nest vs hive thing: if you have a strict schedule and don't like control - nest. If your schedule isn't fixed, or you like control, hive.

That's not even an argument, you turn it off before leaving the property, duh!!

University of codswallop. it learns nothing and it takes your control and laughs at you and wastes energy what planet are you on?

Probably the intelligence planet or the rationality planet. You should visit sometime.

​sounds promising. logic 35 combi.

​nice one. fingers crossed then :neutral_face:

Interesting thread. I was the sales manager for Passiv Systems (another alternative to hive or nest) until recently, and as such had to learn what "the enemy" could do. Hive was the original and worked well, but Nest took the control and the overall saving to new levels. Honeywell (evohome) was just too expensive, I sized them up out of genuine interest and it was around five grand to do my three bed semi. Tado was excellent too. In the end I opted for a z_wave controller as standalone and began assembling my own home automation solution. That's a modular and ongoing solution, which is future proof. One thing to be aware of. Nest is a marketing tool for Google. During our trials of it, I noticed that when I had the system set to come on at random times of night, the Gmail account linked with it started advertising sleeping pills. When I cranked the heating for an hour in the middle of the day, I got adverts for dog food, and pet insurance. If that bothers you, then Tado or Hive are for you.

Also to the guy saying it's bad for the environment, that is like having a prius and ragging it everywhere you drive. Used properly these systems save around 20% in your heating bills, it's proven through industry studies and advocated as being a great idea, so much so that in some eco deals for new more efficient boilers, they ring fence part of the funding for smart heating controls. No offence to you but you're wrong to put these down. They work by reducing the vast majority of people's (who don't ride their thermostat) boiler burn times. This saves them money and in turn helps reduce waste of fuel.

Not only are you wrong but you're also rather rude.

And you say this so as not to look stupid having already committed to this hype, clever guy.

Sorry to un impress you but I didn't want to over repeat something that is glaringly obvious, you see I'm right, maybe in the minority on this thread which I presume is predominantly seen by people who have committed to this scam and couldn't bear to loose face.
This is a product which is very functional and with it, but not as a money saving device which is the pretence that the majority are buying it.

Actually it's common sense - of course it's going to help with the bills. It's not a miracle cure, it will have a small effect. For example, if you're going out for the day, chances are you'd probably forget to turn the heating off if you had an old programmer and stat. With hive, if I get more than 700 yards down the road, I get a notification to ask if I'd like to turn my heating down.

It also seems to be quite a lot more accurate than my old stat. If my old stat was set to 20c, it would heat up to about 21.5, then switch off until about 19. The hive switches on around 19.5 and off at 20.

​I think it's possible to add illiterate to the accusations that you are rude. I *used* to be in the industry. Left it to go to a totally different working world. I this have no vested interest in these being successful or not. Here's a few actual facts for you though: heating bill 2014 - £1175. Heating bill 2015, £875. Change to prices, minus 5%. The rest? Intelligent heating. Lifestyle changes mean I had the heating on more. However, you household thermostat, that yellow dial on the wall, or your manufacturer issued digital one, is accurate to between 2 and 3 degrees. Nest, Tado and hive along with my old lot, offer accuracy to 0.5 degrees. The effect of your system is that your stat aims for 20 degrees, hits target and then heads on up to 22. (overheated energy wasted). It gets there, and then slams on the brakes, heading back down to 20 as it's too warm. It misses 20 and hits 18. (underheated). Your wife/husband/master shivers in the arm chair at the four degree swing, and walks over and cranks the stat to 22 degrees. The cycle repeats and you are wasting energy. This isn't conjecture. It's an environment agency doctrine generated to ask people to improve their heating habits.

Let's move past the bit where I am right and you are wrong and move onto your troll like tendencies. Does it make your heat hotter by insulting someone on a social platform for sh*ts and giggles? Does it stoke your coals? Well done big man. Good for you.

Technology isn't for everyone. I sold it ethically and with industry leading data and knowledge. It sounds like you need to climb down off your soap box and burn it to keep warm.

​I don't know you, but REALLY like you! :wink: Yours sincerely OP.

If this was a site for your convenience it would be job well done on your figures, try to think outside your little box and the concept of delivering this to normal people who don't leave the heating on whilst they go out and actually use their stat to turn the heating to what feels comfortable, and turn the system off when not needed. There now can you see this isn't your world the system you have bought into is an up to date luxury benefitting some forgetful people.
Don't come running to me when your heating won't turn off and you can't work out why because the computer says no. Nice to see you have a friend who likes you for what you say, maybe you could sell them one of these scams systems.

Did you really think about that before writing? "if you're going out, chances are you'd probably leave the heating on" Not if you have an eye on saving money and for the odd occasion that you do it'll teach you to not forget, you certainly don't need to buy a new system for that, and for the stat you set it to a comfortable temperature and leave, it will kick in when it gets too cold, if it doesn't get a new stat that does, the rest is sales talk, I don't gain anything by having a negative view but at least it's my own and without prejudice which is more than I can say for some.

To those that have fitted theirs themselves, can anyone offer any advice? I've picked up my Hive today, expecting to be able to fit this fairly easily, but am totally stumped.

I don't have an existing Thermostat and the guide included in the box essentially boils down to "wire it in". My boiler board has the following:



Thanks in advance :stuck_out_tongue:

You will need to remove the link between LS and LR. Then you need a 5 core cable from the boiler to the hive receiver and connect as follows:

Boiler L - Receiver L
Boiler N - Receiver N
Boiler LS - Receiver 1
Boiler LR - Receiver 3
Boiler earth (green/yellow) - receiver earth terminal

That would still work, but if you switch the boiler off via the boiler controls it will interrupt the receiver power supply possibly loosing any settings stored

No problem

​It's good tech. Well thought out. And saves people money. Apart from trolls it appears. Glad to be able to help.

hello group, can anyone help me with the following link, i'm bamboozled!
Hive 2 on Vokera syntesi 35