"Hive comes with installation from a British Gas engineer, no matter who supplies your energy."

Presumably he also condemns your boiler while he's there, sticks a safety notice on it and tells you it's £4000 for a new one?

The advert annoys me so cold from me

​Sometimes my partner stays at mine. Somerimes I stay at hers. Other times we do our own thing. We don't plan it as with my job it would be impossible.

You asked why anyone would want this. I have given you my reason it would be helpful to me. Accept it and move on, as I accept this is not for you as you obviously live your life by a rigid timetable. Sex on a Tuesday, gammon on a Friday.

Is there a Kodi add-on for this yet?

Yes, should be same wiring basically, just got to work out what goes where. Try and find the wiring instructions for the Siemens unit, then compare to that of the hive

​don't forget the obligatory power flush

I have a Siemens wireless thermostat assume wires will be same in the hive receiver unit at boiler ?

How are you aware that you can get these cheaper from BG under contract? I have asked them and they state they only sell it for £249 installed?

Now installed, but feeling underwhelmed for 2 reasons.

(1) I prefer to have the temp constantly displayed rather than pressing the button
(2) It appears you can get these units for about £60 if you have a BG boiler and controls contract and you call them out for a repair/fault :disappointed:

I'm sorry. Glad you have it sorted.

i don't know why i was mentioning BT!. should be British gas.

I opened the actual hive thermo box and the code was in there.

Just tell them your line is dead. They'll get right on to it.

I am still lost. if i contact bt, wont i have to give them some sort of information?

It's ok, BT will install the master socket when they arrive and activate everything remotely from the exchange.

Ok got mine today. (via flubit)

It only contained the thermostat.

Is there meant to be something else to so that I can call BT for installation ?

Received mine today, fitting was easy, took half an hour , excellent bit of kit

Heating + hot water is still £125 / £185 installed on Amazon.

Heating only is up to £179 without installation.

Have they honoured?

Don't panic! You can still get it direct for a few pence more until Monday.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hive-self-install-125-30-from-hive-etc-2420019

Expired

​Thats the law I'm afraid. Your contract is with the people you bought it from. Not who made it.

Just found out the hard way how bad BG customer services are. It's not working properly and their line is "You didn't buy it from us, go back to where you bought it from.".

It looks nice, wish it was made by someone other than british gas.

There are 3 parts to this package. Wireless thermostat which goes anywhere you want. Receiver which is wired the boiler but you can kind of fix it anywhere with long enough wire. Finally you have the wifi bridge which must be wired into your router so it will use up a hub socket. You can get a bridge booster which goes in a plug socket to improve wifi signal.

Thanks! Cancelled amazon order and bought the upgrade direct. Nice one! Too keen to pull the trigger on HUKD offers :smiley:

Yes bud

Two questions.

Does anyone know if both the receiver and thermostat need to be in WiFi range of the hub, or can the thermostat bridge between the hub and receiver (I've got a long distance and very thick walls between my router and boiler and already have too many network plugs!)

Someone has mentioned above that this offer is for the hive 1 rather than hive 2 - is that correct?

Cheers

Worth noting that Nest possibly integrates nicely with home automation systems like Fibaro HC2. HC2 is very flexible. Motion detection lights, wall switches, rf signals such TV remotes, blinds, light colour changing, alarms (satel)/flood, signals via ethernet and much more. As a result, I'm going to find out more about Nest.

I used flubit as indicated which saved me an additional £15.

so £169.99 is not a bad price.

I will not be happy if hive 3 comes out this year though

Does Hive not sell the heating only version including installation on their website? The Hive website only seems to show the heating and water version in the image with install for a current price of £199.

Does anyone know if Hive will swap the relevant part for a heating only installation if the Amazon heating and water installation pack is purchased? From what I have read Hive seem to say the heating and water version cannot be used for a combi heating only.

You have. The selling point of Hive over Nest is that the thermostat is battery operated whereas the Nest is mains adapter powered. So you can literally put the Hive thermostat anywhere.

I have a combi boiler in the kitchen, thermostat is on the adjacent wall.

The kitchen is by far the coldest room in the house, it's a large room with 2 external doors, all tiled flooring, and only 1 small radiator. Because of this, it's difficult to get the temperature right - I have to set it quite low otherwise the heating comes on all the time, when the majority of the house is warm enough.

So, in getting a hive system, the hive receiver would go in place of the existing thermostat, I could put the new thermostat anywhere (is it wireless, can it be moved around?) and then there is also a hub which is connected to the router. Have I understood correctly?

This does the same

Sex with a gammon? Kinky :innocent:

Tado is much better knows when your at home from the gps in your phone.

Been waiting for a more programmable timer to get into my price bracket!

Does anyone know if this will work with an already wireless thermostat/timer?

I have a logic Combi 35+ boiler with a wireless timer thermostat and can't find any info on whether this can be installed onto it/the boiler.

Thanks!

I could be childish and show a different car in the same space. But my car is a shed. My Hi-Fi cost about 20 times that of my car. One I care about. the other I don't. You will have to do a lot better if you were trying to insult me. https://****/photos/tPGtWRJs7Ecswc1J7

​I have zero interest in cars. Rail access points are everywhere from down rough dirt tracks to at the side of a road in a rough estate. When I get back to the car I will be filthy The shed will do me fine.

maybe I buy next winter.....

Well, that's your heating sorted, now what about that heap of junk you park in the driveway??

​Brilliant. Willy nilly to you, Exciting, ever changing, never boring to me. It certainly doesn't need curing. As you say "Don't think you know a stranger's lifestyle"

You are very perceptive when you say I will still have to turn my heating on. Really, incredible. I can't for the life of me think why you could not perceive that being able to change the settings at home while I am not there.

Maybe the answer is to get a job I would hate, but that would fit round my old style timer. And at the same time sorting my lifestyle to something more agreeable to you. I shall get the other half to come back from the gig she has gone to in London and I will cancel tonight's lucrative job.

Thanks.

Just to make people aware, if you order this with install you will get sent a voucher to order this install from the hive website. The engineer will bring the kit with him. If you order a self install from the warehouse im guessing it will be the actual unit rather than voucher code. That means if you order a hive 1 thats what you will get (whereas an engineer will give you hive 2).

Think the £60odd to get it installed is good value, especially for the peace of mind . It things go wrong then its probably easier to get them to fix it than if you self install.
The BG engineer we got was sound, he even put overshoes on which was considerate. Even though we are not with BG he checked over the boiler, inc the carbon monoxide level, got it all done and went on his way.

Am more than happy with Hive, the only issue i had was that the heating did not come back on when i came back from holiday. I found that the pilot light had gone out on the boiler. Not the fault of Hive but it couldn't pick up that there was an issue with the boiler as there is no communication between the boiler and receiver, just an on/off state.

Don't think you know a stranger's lifestyle & I don't think you quite understand, this won't cure your willy nilly lifestyle, you'll still have to turn your heating on and off, so judging by your responses this could create a lot of problems.

Your existing thermostat should have a receiver wired into your boiler. It's just a case of replacing that receiver with the hive one. So a bit of wiring to sort yes.

​Sometimes my partner stays at mine. Somerimes I stay at hers. Other times we do our own thing. We don't plan it as with my job it would be impossible.

You asked why anyone would want this. I have given you my reason it would be helpful to me. Accept it and move on, as I accept this is not for you as you obviously live your life by a rigid timetable. Sex on a Tuesday, gammon on a Friday.

Does anybody else live at home, if so they could turn heating on if not you could set your heating when you get in unless you have a cash surplus. That's if assuming you're on a money saving website that you want to save money.

Ah I see so it's definitely worth it on the off chance that your day changes, that's probably good for people who chop and change, but for an extra 15mins a day heating you would loose that advantage very quickly, any more smart suggestions?

Well if we strip the original qurstion back its essentially "would there be a performance issue buying the heat & water version and using it on a combi"?

... And no I've not made any decision on anything yet as i don't feel I've had my original query sufficiently answered.

None of which is a problem. I appreciate your attention nevertheless.

I paid for a Hive 1, when the British Gas Installer turned up he fitted a Hive 2. He said they haven't stock Hive 1 since last years so he could only fit the Hive 2

Keep an eye on Amazon warehouse (marked as used item). Looks like all gone at the moment, but it will popup

Thank you OP, managed to get one from Amazon warehouse for £88 (after 20% discount)

Also available from Hive direct for 31p more. Offer ends Monday I believe. May give people a bit more time to think and watch some reviews etc. May also be a possible 4% quidco but unconfirmed. I'm still making my mind up.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hive-self-install-from-hive-etc-2420019

The nest is similar but the control is not powered by batteries, you either use your existing thermostat cable into the nest receiver or it has a separate power supply plugged into it

The newer version does.

This explanation makes it sound like a very easy installation. as you said, sounds like all i need to do is just remove my existing potter ton programmer and swap with the face plate from hive.

Is the nest similar in installation?

Oust of curiosity, will the nest be a similar install

Just to make you all aware. NEST is a US based company, its incompatible with many UK boilers. The HIVE is British based as it development and maintained by British Gas, so its compatible with more UK boilers than the NEST. So I went for the HIVE.

I don't understand why you are asking the question when you have already made up your mind up?? I was just giving you an answer and in my opinion if you have a combi boiler, buying the HW/CH hive is pointless unless you plan on putting a new boiler and cylinder in

Your assuming the engineer will be a man.

Because if they're the same price its better to have the functionality and not need it.

Whilst i appreciate what youre saying I'm struggling to understand why you don't get what im saying.

Would you not buy a car that has a removable tow bar on because you don't have a trailer or a caravan?

you can get a nest for £112 delivered from amazon warehouse with £20 applied at checkout... is the hive better than the nest then?

we currently have a traditional boiler system (cistern, tank in the loft etc etc) and we cant have our hot water and heating isolated from eachother- they both have to be on as you probably all know. would either the hive or nest be able to seperate these and supply water for heating but not necessarily fill the tanks also?

to be honest were concerned about our gas useage and convinced that this set up is costing us much money- sometimes providing hot water to the cistern tank unecessarily, but we are hoping to upgrade later this year to a combi system. i think ill hold off buying at this moment until we know our heating system fate! :-( good price mind.

What's your point?? You asked is there any point buying it in case of future changes of your heating system, I told you no because if you have a combi it is unlikely you will ever need the hw option unless you change over to a system with a separate cylinder at great expense.

You then said it could be a selling point to have the hw function on it, as I said it's not a selling point when you will be able to sell either on at the same price.

Why not just buy the one you need??
There is no benefit of buying the hw/ch one in your situation

Thats EXACTLY my point!

Ethernet connection required for the hive hub

does this connect wirelessly to wifi or does it need to be ethernet plumbed in?

dave

Does this work with geofencing like Tado?

I have got a combi boiler. Is there an option to get the hot water only installed?

Nest or a hive ? Which is better ?

You joke, but this is exactly what they did to me last year. Quoted £3800 for the boiler + flue repairs, a local company did it for nearly half that with a longer warranty.

Ye I get that for some people it wouldn't work, I live alone though so would be great for me. Seems stupid not to include it as an option when the geolocation part is already there.

Can someone please tell me how being able to switch your heating on when not around saves money?
What did you used to do leave it on all day?

​That's the whole point more controllable heating. setting the timer in advance your plans could change. You have a lay in stay out later than planned, with your timer set it will come on regardless. As he says 2 buttons on his phone job done. heating when you need it.

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It's just more convenient than the current set up I have, I don't need the ability to control each rad like the evo offers and at over £500 for the full set up its not really comparable to nest/hive

We were quoted for this recently by BG - £199 including installation. The offer represents £14 off. Not too shabby.

You fit a zone valve on the flow pipe of the heating system that supplies each floor, so that controls all the radiators, open it heats all rads on that floor, closed and they are all off.
Not really sure of the differences between the nest and hive but the hive does look like the better one imo so that's what I've gone for to fit in my house, I was looking at the nest but with this deal today it's swung me towards the hive

Centralised thermostats are very 1970s - I wouldn't waste my money on a fancy IoT thermostat, it doesn't actually make your heating work any better, just helps you turn it on and off.

Possibly, but not at the same price point as nest and hive so not really an option for me

They came to mine and said they legally can't install it because of how my boiler is housed :disappointed:

Too bloody true!!

Thanks again for the response. Just wondering if I stick only one motorised valve on each floor (attached to just one rad I assume?) then how does it connect to the other rads on the floor for temp?

So I'd also need another thing along with the standard display unit? Well I will be changing a few rads from horizontal to vertical, plus got to do a few other plumbi/gas related jobs so might prove cheaper to get it done all together.

How is this different/better/worse than nest? Nest has Google behind it and I'm sure has similar features. My entire tech eco system is android apart from laptop. Having said that, Google has more of a reputation to drop tech :laughing: just want the one with more longevity.

Yes you could just zone of each floor seperately with a motorised valve , you would need the hive stat, the multizone controller and then a motorised valve for each zone, so 4 motorised valves if you want to control each floor seperately

So a zone does not have to be each radiator though yeah? So if I've got four rads on the 2nd floor, and I want that to be one zone, would each radiator need a motorised Valve?

Essentially my new house will have 4 floors. Basement, ground, first and second. I want each floor to be a zone but not to control each and every radiator separately.

So with the size of the house, won't be economical to heat the whole house when we're downstairs during the day. Or vice versa at night time. See for me, if I could control even each floor separately, it would probably save me money. Having the rads on for the full house when We would be downstairs throughout the day would be crazy.

What's the set up I'd need mate. Thanks for the responses mate. Been very helpful.

Maybe the engineer was eeking out the job . . . but then he did remove the old programmer and fit a blanking plate to make the Hive controller installation nice and neat. For me, it was worth the £60 to have the peace of mind the system was installed competently and actually worked!

another question, can more than 1 person link to the system ie anyone with the app and credentials can control it?

I don't really see the point as they are both the same price anyway

Yeah you've got thermostatic rad valves then, the only way to control different zones of your house is to have motorised valves fitted to each zone which are controlled by seperately by the additional multizone control : Hive multizone
It would work out quite expensive if you don't already have any zone valves fitted

Catch a chill in the lounge? Walk to the boiler and turn it on / up. Wife says she's cold on weekday mornings? tell her to turn the heating on or set the timer for it to come on. House catches sun in the day? you must not live in UK.

You need a different base unit to do both - it isn't compatible with a combi. I had the dual one originally, had a combi installed and BG had to come out again to fit a new controller to the boiler. I still have the dual thermostat however - its just the boiler bit they had to replace.

I've got thermostat controllers on each rad. Meaning to control heat output. That's what you mean right? Numbered 0 to 5 for heat output.

I really like my Hive. controlling it away from home is so useful as is being able to turn it on from under the duvet if needed.

I get that, and thanks for your response by the way, but the question remains... is there any detriment?
If its the same price then why would you not have that extra functionality... even if its a selling point should you decide to flog it on.

QUESTION!

Is there any point in not buying heating and hot water over the hot water only?

I have a combi-boiler but if theres no detriment to having (and not using) the additional features then it seems daft not to cover your back for potential future changes in your system.

Unless of course the additional features cause issues if not used or configured during installation.

Certainly tempted once I move into my new house. That's a larger house so targeted heating would really be useful with only heating bits needed.

How do you control individual rads? You have to buy separate gizmos for that?

So what do I need for the full set up? Apart from the thermostat, what else is needed specifically from hive?

Just ordered this with fitting for £169.99.
Going via Flubit saved £15.00 on the £184.99 Amazon price

Would recommend Hive to anyone, had it about 6 months now. Control your heating from anywhere on your phone, easy to setup schedules on the website or phone, setup holiday mode for when you are away to ignore your schedule, frost protection so it turns on regardless when below a set temperature and also alerts when your house goes above or below a set temperature. Thermostat looks great too and you can buy different coloured frames so it matches decor.

I also recently invested in a Hive motion sensor and some window/door sensors as well as a few Hive plugs. All of these can be controlled online or through the app. The motion sensor and window/door sensor can be setup to send text and email alerts either all the time or on a schedule basis. All of these connect to the Hive Hub that goes in your router, same as thermostat.

That said it isn't without limitations; and nonsensical at that. For example you can set it up to alert you when you go a certain distance from your house and you left your heating on. But not to just turn it off, and not to turn on motion sensors etc on if your not there when your schedule has them as off. I'm fairly sure I could achieve these with an app like Tasker, but i haven't looked into it properly yet.

The app and Hive in general is being developed and added to still, they also plan to release some light bulbs and I believe a camera that will connect to the same hub, so I'm hoping these limitations will be removed and more useful features will be added.

The Hive system has gone TITSUP a few times, most recently when they're server crashed and botched the firmware version on my hub, their technical support is excellent though, with no call wait times and they have always resolved my issue. Working in IT for a bank I've generally come to accept that these things happen. Technology is not infallible and these minor inconveniences are acceptable for the next level heating / home tech.

I echo that. Go away for weekend. Push 2 buttons on way home back to a warm house. Out for a meal & drinks push 2 buttons on way home warm house.

My favourite too lazy to get off sofa and cold push 2 buttons warm again,
it's a must have now for me moving forward.

I self installed from eBay few months ago, if your not comfortable with electrics get someone to install it who is.

Anyone with Hive experience know how well it works in a house that doesn't have Thermostatic valves on the radiators? I'm presuming it will still work well, but probably best in conjunction with thermostatic valved rads too?

Is it just me, or am I the only one who can't see any point in being able to switch your heating on and off when your not in the house, surely that's what timers were made for, over engineered , so cold for me

Hi guys

This has probably been answered already, but we have a combi boiler (no separate water tank) so presumably I just need the "heating" model?

Is there a Kodi add-on for this yet?

I don't need the hot water option as I have a combi

One hive box would connect to your router via ethernet.

Another will replace the programmer in the airing cupboard. You should have wires in there (depending on your system) for power, hot water on (and possibly off), central heating on (and possibly off). The hive will have corresponding connectors.

The hive thermostat can go anywhere. With your existing thermostat, you just need to short the two wires in a junction box to turn it on continuously and blank it off. By doing this, you always have the option to return to a dumb system without having to wire in a new stat if you need to.

Does this thing work with houses with two heating thermostats yet?

You'll need Hive multi-zone:

https://www.hivehome.com/products/hive-active-heating

Hot. unless you've turned the thermostat down when I wasn't looking

Nothing beats intelligent heating system!! I hated those old timers, which bog standard ones havent seemed to evolve out of the early eighties. Mine is nest, in essence the principle is very similar.

Please explain.. please!

I have a non combo boiler with hot water tank in the airing cupboard and a cold tank in the loft.
My hallway thermostat is battery powered with 2 wires from the wall.
I also have a programmer in the airing cupboard to control Central heating & water.

Where would I install the Hive Units ?

Have been using Hive for well over a year now - absoulutely brilliant system. Well worth paying the few quid extra and getting it installed, British Gas engineer takes about half a day but you get peace of mind the system actually works. Being able to control your heating from anywhere using the smartphone app is really handy. Range of Hive sensor products also now available, widening the use of the system. Heat.

Thanks, grabbed one from Amazon warehouse for £88.

Couldn't say no at that price.

Silly questuon, bur does anyone know the difference between the Heating only vs the Heating and Hot Water?

Not all boilers are compatible. Full info here: https://www.hivehome.com/faqs/featured/109359-articles/759960

Perfect timing, I was waiting for this to drop in price. Have hive 1 already and the controller haa been playung up
This one looks miles better.

I've got an existing wireless thermostat. Do I just need to remove the older receiver and wire this receiver in or do I need to mess around with the wiring on the boiler?

Hot, got mine for £112 (ebay seller) Had it for a month and works great!

It's very easy, it comes with a wiring schematic you need to supply your own 3/4 core cable to connect up for the power and thermostat and it just goes into the main board of the boiler, the thermostat itself is wireless and battery operated. Ours was a valiant boiler with easy access to the front panel. You just need the wireless receiver connected into a spare port of the router and a spare power socket near by.

I cannot fault the actual system, the app is intuative and you can just text "heat 20" for instance to set the temperature whilst your out if you want to keep it simple

"Hive comes with installation from a British Gas engineer, no matter who supplies your energy."

Presumably he also condemns your boiler while he's there, sticks a safety notice on it and tells you it's £4000 for a new one?

Yeah, only existing customers get it for £99

Personally, for practicality, the original in my mind was better and more functional, an always on display of the current temperature that this one lacks. Installed mine 2 years ago and never replaced the batteries

The advert annoys me so cold from me

Do you have a link for this offer, I could only see it for 199 on British gas website. £99 if you were an existing customer and we're upgrading.

i got it for 99 from hive so cold from me