New Inspiron 11 3000-Series: Yes another super weedy Dell cheapo deal from Spannerzone!
Featuring less power than your 2 year old phone or 7 year old laptop:
Lethargic Intel® Celeron® Processor N3050 (2M Cache, up to 2.16 GHz),
Measley 32GB eMMC Hard Drive
Paltry 2GB Single Channel DDR3L 1600MHz
Tiddly 11.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display
Windows 10 (which you'll hate no doubt)
Spill resistant keyboard ideal for night time solo activities
1 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0, 1 HDMI v1.4a
Curiously decent Wireless A/C
Webcam, Color Options: Bali Blue, Alpine White, Tango Red
Nasty McAfee® LiveSafe Consumer 12 Month Subscription (why oh why Dell?)
E-Value Code: cn31602 (paste this into Dell's search bar to find the deal)
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spannerzone
18 Mar 1610#1
Yes I've managed to find another Dell super deal* for those looking for cheap and semi cheerful computing....while it's not as mega deal as my last £99 Dell micro desktop, it's not too bad assuming you don't expect to use it for anything computer related. Currently £159 including delivery until 21st March 2016.
Choice of colours, up to 9 hours battery (well I guess anything is possible)
*terms and conditions apply
topss
18 Mar 165#3
Lovely bedtime reading that description.
CrispEditor
19 Mar 165#11
Hot - because the description is so funny and oh so true. Keep 'em coming.
ollie87 to ro888
19 Mar 164#19
1366 x 768 at 11 inches is around the same pixel density as 1080p at 15 inches.
But I guess shouting low resolutions without being informed is cool now.
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spannerzone
18 Mar 1610#1
Yes I've managed to find another Dell super deal* for those looking for cheap and semi cheerful computing....while it's not as mega deal as my last £99 Dell micro desktop, it's not too bad assuming you don't expect to use it for anything computer related. Currently £159 including delivery until 21st March 2016.
Choice of colours, up to 9 hours battery (well I guess anything is possible)
*terms and conditions apply
ro888
18 Mar 163#2
I guess Dell must have loads of 1366x768 panel from the last century, lol
spannerzone to ro888
18 Mar 161#5
So many laptops from all the vendors still ship these damned lower res screens, even on mid range laptops.... somewhere in China a factory is churning out billions of the things I reckon!
ollie87 to ro888
19 Mar 164#19
1366 x 768 at 11 inches is around the same pixel density as 1080p at 15 inches.
But I guess shouting low resolutions without being informed is cool now.
Agreed, these low res screen is OK for email and general internet but not for serious worker or HD video though...
superspod
19 Mar 16#7
Would this be good for a (primary school) child? Any other cheap suggestions?
SClub
19 Mar 162#8
To be fair, this sort of resolution is OK on screens up to 12". Not so on a 15.6" panel, however.
MrPuddington to SClub
19 Mar 16#15
Sort of ok, but these low resolutions are the main reason that reading on laptop is so much more painful than on a tablet. 1080p or 1200p are a lot nicer, as long as you can get Windows to scale properly (which depends a bit on the programs, too).
allowed
19 Mar 162#9
HOT for the battery life
LittleChimp
19 Mar 16#10
These should be good enough for schoolwork. Can always return it if it's not suitable.
CrispEditor
19 Mar 165#11
Hot - because the description is so funny and oh so true. Keep 'em coming.
I can't tell if this has much upgrade potential or not, the user manual and videos online suggest it can be supplied with a regular hard disk in which case a cheap SSD upgrade will make this much more usable. Memory looks like it's standard 1 slot and could be switched for 4GB cheaply enough. However in its current form I suspect it'll be rather slow doing things and might drive people up the wall doing anything slightly intensive.
Topinio
19 Mar 16#16
It's a netbook. In an 7-10" chassis this would be fine IMO, so kinda sorta okay at 12" if you know what you're gettng.
LittleChimp
19 Mar 162#17
It's not upgradeable the ram and ssd are both soldered to the motherboard. Some reviews saying the 2gb of ram makes things slow. Might be worth paying the extra 40 pound for the £199 15 inch Inspiron. Comes with a quad core pentium instead of the dual core here and has 4gb of ram and the option to add a ssd yourself.
Struggling to link the dell but this is the E-Value Code: CN55204 if you go on deals of the day it's the second laptop down.
spannerzone
19 Mar 16#18
Some very polarised reviews!:
Positive review example Bought this for my daughter for school. Can't beat the value or the quality. Perfect size and light weight. Keyboard and Touchpad are responsive. Start up is fast. Great sound. Good picture.
Negative review example Just what the title says. This computer is so slow it's almost unusable. I wasn't expecting much for the price but this thing is awful. I wanted a small laptop for travel and as an backup if I had issues with my main computer but this was a waste of money. Don't buy.
spannerzone
19 Mar 16#20
Thanks for finding those, looks like there are different versions of the 3000 series and even Dell is linking the wrong service manual to this model. Shame it's so locked down and non upgradeable.....I know manufacturers are going super cheap but a PC with such low ram and little spare HD space is going to struggle and annoy uninformed buyers, They really need to bump up the storage to eMMC 64GB and 4G ram and it would make a big difference.
LittleChimp
19 Mar 16#21
Yeah this would have been a lot hotter if you could stick a 4gb or 8gb ram stick in but the 2gb ram will definitely limit it over time.
thecoolguy
19 Mar 161#22
Most other laptop brands have these laptops at the price point of £130-150.
abaxas
19 Mar 16#23
This about the same 'speed' as my old lenovo x200s, which......
Surfs the net with either edge or firefox quickly and easily.
Plays up to 720p youtube videos without stutter.
I can play older games, even 3d ones.
Editing docments with libreoffice is fast and responsive.
It plays Football Manager 2015 without issue.
This machine may not be 'fast' or have a 'golden **** master 3d card' but who cares. I'll get the job done for what almost everyone uses a computer for.
tappy
19 Mar 16#24
I have a Lenovo 11.6" laptop that is a very similar spec with regards to screen. There's nothing wrong with the resolution of the screen at all. It's fine for pretty much everything you'll want to do. It would be stupid to expect more at this price point.
I'm a huge fan of laptops this size, much better than the old netbooks that were too small. Hide your taskbar and it is the perfect size for a web browser. It's much more manageable than a 15" and is particularly good for lazy mornings in bed.
whydoiwastemytimehere
19 Mar 16#25
Not a chance I or anyone with a brain would buy it with only 15.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) Truelife LED-Backlit Display.
cant understand why Dell would do this on a 15inch display unless its just to hit a lower price point. -stuupid.
mbuckhurst
19 Mar 163#26
I've got a 1080P screened tablet/ultrabook around this screen size, and to be frank it's a pain in the backside, windows just doesn't scale well, so yes text is crisper, but unreadable at native resolution, and as soon as you scale, it's no better than my old 1366x768 laptop with similar screen size. I needed the resolution for a particular application, but mostly it's just a pain.
As for watching movies, if the movie is good enough, you're not going to notice the resolution isn't full HD, and at least if you re-encode for the resolution, you'll get more on your memory chip.
mike
mbuckhurst
19 Mar 163#27
I'd rather hope people with brains would buy a laptop based on their requirement rather than a willy waving exercise over resolutions. I know plenty of people who prefer that resolution on a 15" screen, personally I would want higher, but that's because I use software that needs the higher resolution, but for say my Dad, he definitely would be wasting his money on higher resolutions, since he'd need windows set to maximum scaling to read the screen.
I bet you this is the most popular screen resolution and screen size across all manufacturers, despite it not appealing to everyone.
I wonder how we coped in the old days with 640x480 screens, and that was when you had a posh computer, lol.
Its not just about pixel density its about how much will fit on the screen when using any app other than games or video where its arguably less important
mbuckhurst
19 Mar 161#32
I'd argue at this screen size, it's the size of text that's more important than how much you can fit on the screen, a full hd screen run without scaling is no fun at this screen size, unless you want to visit an optician, although maybe with only a slight scaling factor, you'd still get more on a full hd screen, than 1366x768, but I'm not sure it's much and probably debatable economic sense.
The beauty is, with this being a popular size and resolution, you can easily pop down to your nearest computer shop or John Lewis and try one with similar screen specs and see how you'd get on, before buying - that's what I did with my Dad before picking a 1368x768 screen as the most sensible for him.
mike
SClub
19 Mar 161#33
I have an 11.6" Acer where the 1366*768 resolution works perfectly for me. I also have a Toshiba Chromebook 2 with a full HD 13.3" screen which I typically lower the res to 1536*864 to make things readable. If I had a 15.6" device I would probably want it running at full HD.
Find the same sort if resolution to screen size works well in Windows to for general office work / web browsing.
I tend to hold a tablet closer to my face, hence a higher res is OK in that scenario (particularly with Android).
superspod
19 Mar 16#34
Thanks. The stream does look pretty similar to this for 10 quid less.
Is the Celeron N3050 better than the Atom Z3735F? I am so out of touch.
IWannaBeAdored
19 Mar 161#36
Makes me chuckle that every laptop deal end up in a discussion about 1080p. Resolution is not the be all and end all. Yes it's a nice perk if the laptop has it, but battery life and the rest of the spec, and the optons to upgrade memory/HD are probably more important.
Wouldn't touch this at all given you're stuck with this spec. Spend a bit more on laptop from Dell Outlet is the better way.
ollie87
19 Mar 16#37
I'm not sure you know how display scaling works. 1080p without display scaling on a 11 inch display would be impossible to read.
dergal
19 Mar 16#38
So having played with everything inc 4k screen on a dell 15" .... IMHO I'd prefer a fulld HD on a laptop even at 11" if you compare my laptop 1366 x 768 to a surface at full HD, I'd much prefer the full HD, most of the time I'm stuck in excel or code so having extra screen pixels really helps. I'd agree that it could be optimised better and sometimes the text is small...
thecoolguy to dergal
19 Mar 16#43
excel on 11" screen. lol.
mbuckhurst to dergal
19 Mar 161#49
I use my 11" HD screen for code, SQL and Excel, but not because it's comfortable, but because I need to run those applications, I suspect you wouldn't be buying this laptop if coding was what you wanted to do, therefore you probably wouldn't want to spend extra just to make the viewing experience worse, when for browsing and word processing this screen resolution is perfectly fine, and to be honest it was long ago that we all managed to use Excel and Visual Studio on a much lower resolution than even this.
mike
634miyamoto
19 Mar 161#39
We use to call this a "netbook" back in 2007...
spannerzone to 634miyamoto
19 Mar 16#41
Weren't netbooks up to 10inches and 11inches to 13 were ultra notebooks? but yes, you're right in that low spec, tiny laptops were netbooks not so long ago.
mcek to 634miyamoto
19 Mar 16#42
2007? still calling it a netbook in 2011...
that's the vintage of my Asus, £130, 2gb ram, currently running fine with Lubuntu/win10, 1024x600 (so stop all the low-res complaining, but I admit to connecting to a 1080p monitor).
anyway, it's a bit better than my Asus, I wouldn't moan about having one.
adamspencer95
19 Mar 161#40
the specs are pretty much the same, although i think the stream is limited to 802.11N wifi whereas the Dell has AC. unless you see the need for AC wifi (crowded frequencies, many clients etc) then N should be plenty fast. the CPU probably wouldnt exploit the theoretically faster transfer speeds properly anyway.
the HP stream gets between 8-9 hours of battery life so fairly comparable.
the splash resistant keyboard may also be beneficial dependent on how likely you are to spill drinks on it.
just a heads up, the N3050 CPU performs about the same as a Z3735 quad core so is fine for very basic things, id stick with the edge browser on low powered hardware as it seems fairly good at using minimal resources when compared to chrome, IE etc
dergal
19 Mar 161#44
Yep... Its not that bad. And if you commute it makes life easier
delgado
19 Mar 16#45
It's not all about screen resolution. I think the type of display and colour reproduction/viewing angles are more important. I tested a Asus X205 and I found the 1366x768 res on a 11" screen fine but the problem was the washed out colours and awful vertical viewing angles on the non-IPS screen. I'm not sure about this Dell but all of the other 11" low cost laptops I looked at had similar poor quality 1366x768 screens.
I would get one if the screens were IPS/better as I think the res is fine and they're neat, portable devices for basic tasks. I suppose they keep the IPS screens for tablets/hybrids where viewing angles are more important.
HOT.....just for the amusing description! :laughing:
"New Inspiron 11 3000-Series: Yes another super weedy Dell cheapo deal from Spannerzone!
Featuring less power than your 2 year old phone or 7 year old laptop"
On a serious note though, I'd take a Chromebook over one these low spec Windows machines.
splender
20 Mar 16#51
If the way you use a past computer slowed over time , like 6 months or more (whether because of adding software over time, updates over time, fragmented disk, or whatever, ) do not buy , as if it is adequate speed now, it may be too slow for you in the same way as for your past computers . But on the other hand, if the way you use did not slow down in the past, fine.
Opening post
Featuring less power than your 2 year old phone or 7 year old laptop:
Lethargic Intel® Celeron® Processor N3050 (2M Cache, up to 2.16 GHz),
Measley 32GB eMMC Hard Drive
Paltry 2GB Single Channel DDR3L 1600MHz
Tiddly 11.6-inch HD (1366 x 768) Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display
Windows 10 (which you'll hate no doubt)
Spill resistant keyboard ideal for night time solo activities
1 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0, 1 HDMI v1.4a
Curiously decent Wireless A/C
Webcam, Color Options: Bali Blue, Alpine White, Tango Red
Nasty McAfee® LiveSafe Consumer 12 Month Subscription (why oh why Dell?)
E-Value Code: cn31602 (paste this into Dell's search bar to find the deal)
Top comments
Choice of colours, up to 9 hours battery (well I guess anything is possible)
*terms and conditions apply
But I guess shouting low resolutions without being informed is cool now.
All comments (52)
Choice of colours, up to 9 hours battery (well I guess anything is possible)
*terms and conditions apply
But I guess shouting low resolutions without being informed is cool now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMq2IiozPYg
This video shows a regular hard drive, the item on offer has an EMMC drive so not sure if both options exist or not.... needs further investigation.
Service manual suggests the same as the video
http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/inspiron-11-3162-laptop_Service%20Manual_en-us.pdf
https://youtu.be/lxmxSHalJMY
https://youtu.be/LRGrcfbwFBw
Struggling to link the dell but this is the E-Value Code: CN55204 if you go on deals of the day it's the second laptop down.
Positive review example
Bought this for my daughter for school. Can't beat the value or the quality. Perfect size and light weight. Keyboard and Touchpad are responsive. Start up is fast. Great sound. Good picture.
Negative review example
Just what the title says. This computer is so slow it's almost unusable. I wasn't expecting much for the price but this thing is awful. I wanted a small laptop for travel and as an backup if I had issues with my main computer but this was a waste of money. Don't buy.
Surfs the net with either edge or firefox quickly and easily.
Plays up to 720p youtube videos without stutter.
I can play older games, even 3d ones.
Editing docments with libreoffice is fast and responsive.
It plays Football Manager 2015 without issue.
This machine may not be 'fast' or have a 'golden **** master 3d card' but who cares. I'll get the job done for what almost everyone uses a computer for.
I'm a huge fan of laptops this size, much better than the old netbooks that were too small. Hide your taskbar and it is the perfect size for a web browser. It's much more manageable than a 15" and is particularly good for lazy mornings in bed.
cant understand why Dell would do this on a 15inch display unless its just to hit a lower price point. -stuupid.
As for watching movies, if the movie is good enough, you're not going to notice the resolution isn't full HD, and at least if you re-encode for the resolution, you'll get more on your memory chip.
mike
I bet you this is the most popular screen resolution and screen size across all manufacturers, despite it not appealing to everyone.
I wonder how we coped in the old days with 640x480 screens, and that was when you had a posh computer, lol.
mike
seems the same/better for less.
The beauty is, with this being a popular size and resolution, you can easily pop down to your nearest computer shop or John Lewis and try one with similar screen specs and see how you'd get on, before buying - that's what I did with my Dad before picking a 1368x768 screen as the most sensible for him.
mike
Find the same sort if resolution to screen size works well in Windows to for general office work / web browsing.
I tend to hold a tablet closer to my face, hence a higher res is OK in that scenario (particularly with Android).
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-stream-11-r050sa-11-6-laptop-blue-10137770-pdt.html
Anyone have any reason why I should go for the Dell over the HP?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-100s-11-6-laptop-red-10139239-pdt.html
Is the Celeron N3050 better than the Atom Z3735F? I am so out of touch.
Wouldn't touch this at all given you're stuck with this spec. Spend a bit more on laptop from Dell Outlet is the better way.
mike
that's the vintage of my Asus, £130, 2gb ram, currently running fine with Lubuntu/win10, 1024x600 (so stop all the low-res complaining, but I admit to connecting to a 1080p monitor).
anyway, it's a bit better than my Asus, I wouldn't moan about having one.
the HP stream gets between 8-9 hours of battery life so fairly comparable.
the splash resistant keyboard may also be beneficial dependent on how likely you are to spill drinks on it.
just a heads up, the N3050 CPU performs about the same as a Z3735 quad core so is fine for very basic things, id stick with the edge browser on low powered hardware as it seems fairly good at using minimal resources when compared to chrome, IE etc
I would get one if the screens were IPS/better as I think the res is fine and they're neat, portable devices for basic tasks. I suppose they keep the IPS screens for tablets/hybrids where viewing angles are more important.
"New Inspiron 11 3000-Series: Yes another super weedy Dell cheapo deal from Spannerzone!
Featuring less power than your 2 year old phone or 7 year old laptop"
On a serious note though, I'd take a Chromebook over one these low spec Windows machines.