chateau neuf du pape gande reserve £8 for a 75cl bottle reduced from £14.50
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martyn333
24 Mar 164#4
compadre: feel free to make another comment when you have tried this wine otherwise your comment is like a bucket with a hole in the bottom (if i need to explain -doesn't hold water)
compadre
24 Mar 164#5
I have tried many wines like this, they are all overpriced (whether £8 or£30) some of the more expensive wines are good, but still overpriced due to the name attached. I feel I have enough experience, and spent enough money to comment. The reason for my input is just because of the way these are pushed to people who recognise the name and buy for special occasions, they would get a far better wine for this price, especially if you buy with a little research, and crucially something that's not always reduced.
compadre
26 Mar 163#11
I reserve the right to comment on whatever I like! That said my comments have been pertinent and people can have a think and make their own decisions. To me wine at £8 is still a considered purchase, and if people try different wines at a price point they will be surprised.
ps. What makes you think that every bottle of this will taste the same? Are they all the same vintage? Believe me the way these generic wines will be produced there will most likely be some variance between bottlings.
pps. At this price I am more than happy to 'miss out' and buy a village wine from the cotes du Rhône, and take my chances. Experience tells me I will be making the right choice.
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compadre
31 Mar 16#31
Sorry for the missing capitals and 's's. I am often in France and have been going for many years. Only in recent years have I had such good wine from this area. Most are good in the lower price range, but go up in price and some of the flavours can be amazing.
Ok, southern French wine from the Languedoc, at around the £8 mark. Minervois, corbieres, cote du rousillon. Essentially a wine on the shelf of a supermarket which is never reduced, not the ones which are always on offer. Chateau fauzan from Tesco (minervois) don't know if it's still available.
My intention was to offer my experience, bought at considerable cost. If you call that knocking I think you misinterpret my posts.
I stand by my opinion that you can get better at this price.
Do some research, go to say waitrose and try some £8 wine, Same applies about not ever being reduced, and it will also be hit and miss. Which is why I posted in the first place, aiming to save people unnecessary money.
compadre
24 Mar 164#5
I have tried many wines like this, they are all overpriced (whether £8 or£30) some of the more expensive wines are good, but still overpriced due to the name attached. I feel I have enough experience, and spent enough money to comment. The reason for my input is just because of the way these are pushed to people who recognise the name and buy for special occasions, they would get a far better wine for this price, especially if you buy with a little research, and crucially something that's not always reduced.
martyn333 to compadre
26 Mar 16#10
as i said before try this wine and you won't be passing comment on wine 'like this' you will be commenting on THIS wine. generalise and you may miss out
blahblahdoh to compadre
31 Mar 16#28
You claim there is a "far better wine for this price" yet seem unable to name one. Not saying you are wrong, but it seems a shame to knock someone's deal, offered in good faith, if you can't back up your criticism with evidence of anything better. If nothing similar is currently available for a lower price, then surely this is a hot deal?
thankshotdeals
29 Mar 16#27
Wot Wine values the 2012 at £12 not sure what this year is.
compadre
29 Mar 16#26
Jumping in, its a minefield. You can fairly easily look up well reviewed CDP, they are usually from estates (domaine/ chateau etc) but you will be talking money. Even then there will be big differences between each style/vintage. Good luck!
Ps. To varying degrees any wine that has a 'name' carries the same baggage, think Chablis, St emilion, even rioja. Etc etc!
Toffer11
29 Mar 16#25
I have tried various vintage years of this and enjoyed it every time. Perhaps its the environment in which you are drinking as it has always been with groups of friends around the table eating good food for me, so maybe not as great if just having as a solo drinking wine?! Hot from me anyway
androoski
28 Mar 16#18
There are 180 different wineries in the CNdP AOC that could produce wine with that label.
Each harvest and each batch of wine imported will vary, because it's wine and that is how it works. So all comments like "I've tried this once and ...... " etc have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I've many versions of CNdP over the years and they are very up and down. No idea what this one is like.
dealpickle to androoski
29 Mar 16#24
Would you care to recommend one of the good versions that you've tried? I had no idea there was such variation within the same label.
jefwoad345
28 Mar 16#23
yes and gold label
sickly sweet
28 Mar 16#22
Another small comment, but I'd personally prefer to go for a St Emilion
compadre
28 Mar 16#21
That's why I used the word 'probably'.
Read the thread and make your own choices. I've wasted money over the years on this sort of wine and thought I'd share, feel free to buy and make your own decisions.
ps. It appears some people have tried this, and their verdicts are here.
sickly sweet
28 Mar 16#20
This wine is nice but nothing to write home about.
It's about right at the £8 price point.
The wine benefits from coming up to room temperature and some breathing.
The wine is nice but not special, as is the price; ok but but not special.
compadre
24 Mar 161#2
Basically £8 for a name, wine is probably very ordinary.
Notice how this wine is reduced on most Christmas's and Easter's.
W_D_G to compadre
28 Mar 161#19
So you haven't even tasted it?
badasschris
28 Mar 16#17
I know very little about wine but I've had a few bottles named this and I always really liked it. No idea if having this name will mean it will taste the same as the ones I've tried but if it does £8 seems a good price and I'll give it a go if I'm passing an asda
dealpickle
28 Mar 161#16
I have tried the Sainsbury's version of this a few months back (it was £14 i think) and i could honestly not tell the slightest difference between this and the bottles you get for about six quid. I thought it would be nice to push the boat out and get something a bit special - won't bother again! Fool me once...
Doods1875
28 Mar 161#15
Chateau Neuf du Pape!
jefwoad345
28 Mar 16#13
special brew well better
afroylnt to jefwoad345
28 Mar 16#14
Presumably that's what you have been drinking just before adding your very insightful comment?
thekitkatshuffler
28 Mar 16#12
Tried this last time it was on offer and it's fine. Absolutely not special in any way and you'd probably be better off with a Faustino or Campo Viejo for this money, but I wouldn't feel ripped off at £8.
compadre
26 Mar 163#11
I reserve the right to comment on whatever I like! That said my comments have been pertinent and people can have a think and make their own decisions. To me wine at £8 is still a considered purchase, and if people try different wines at a price point they will be surprised.
ps. What makes you think that every bottle of this will taste the same? Are they all the same vintage? Believe me the way these generic wines will be produced there will most likely be some variance between bottlings.
pps. At this price I am more than happy to 'miss out' and buy a village wine from the cotes du Rhône, and take my chances. Experience tells me I will be making the right choice.
corabe1981
24 Mar 16#9
good deal. Thanks op
Tapasman
24 Mar 161#8
I doubt this would gain much by being laid down. Best way to describe it would be that its a generic CdP produced by some bottling firm in France. Likely produced from inferior grapes the big houses have rejected, but still harvested within the area covered by the appellation.
Sometimes these types of wine are ok, sometimes they're not - but as folks taste in wine is pretty subjective, another mans vinegar is another mans premier cru!
In my opinion (and the poster above) there's likely better to be had for your eight quid and I wouldn't buy this purely on the basis that its a Chateauneuf de Pape.
sebfrogs
24 Mar 16#7
it's a wine that you need to keep few years to grow for taste.... i know it's difficultoO
eggman
24 Mar 161#6
Hic !
martyn333
24 Mar 164#4
compadre: feel free to make another comment when you have tried this wine otherwise your comment is like a bucket with a hole in the bottom (if i need to explain -doesn't hold water)
xenole
24 Mar 16#3
I bought a bottle for £11 from Sainsbury last weekend. Nothing special. Drinkable but no better and no worse than a lot of cheaper bottles.
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ps. What makes you think that every bottle of this will taste the same? Are they all the same vintage? Believe me the way these generic wines will be produced there will most likely be some variance between bottlings.
pps. At this price I am more than happy to 'miss out' and buy a village wine from the cotes du Rhône, and take my chances. Experience tells me I will be making the right choice.
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My intention was to offer my experience, bought at considerable cost. If you call that knocking I think you misinterpret my posts.
I stand by my opinion that you can get better at this price.
Do some research, go to say waitrose and try some £8 wine, Same applies about not ever being reduced, and it will also be hit and miss. Which is why I posted in the first place, aiming to save people unnecessary money.
Ps. To varying degrees any wine that has a 'name' carries the same baggage, think Chablis, St emilion, even rioja. Etc etc!
Each harvest and each batch of wine imported will vary, because it's wine and that is how it works. So all comments like "I've tried this once and ...... " etc have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I've many versions of CNdP over the years and they are very up and down. No idea what this one is like.
Read the thread and make your own choices. I've wasted money over the years on this sort of wine and thought I'd share, feel free to buy and make your own decisions.
ps. It appears some people have tried this, and their verdicts are here.
It's about right at the £8 price point.
The wine benefits from coming up to room temperature and some breathing.
The wine is nice but not special, as is the price; ok but but not special.
Notice how this wine is reduced on most Christmas's and Easter's.
ps. What makes you think that every bottle of this will taste the same? Are they all the same vintage? Believe me the way these generic wines will be produced there will most likely be some variance between bottlings.
pps. At this price I am more than happy to 'miss out' and buy a village wine from the cotes du Rhône, and take my chances. Experience tells me I will be making the right choice.
Sometimes these types of wine are ok, sometimes they're not - but as folks taste in wine is pretty subjective, another mans vinegar is another mans premier cru!
In my opinion (and the poster above) there's likely better to be had for your eight quid and I wouldn't buy this purely on the basis that its a Chateauneuf de Pape.