Bought this a week ago when it was £229.99 and its dropped now to just less than £200. I think its a decent little laptop for a student or light user.
Specifications:
Intel Pentium Quad Core N3700 CPU (up to 2.4GHZ)
2GB DDR3 RAM
32GB eMMC memory
14 hour battery life
Aluminium construction
1366 x 768
USB 3.0 x 1
USB type C x 1
USB 2.0 x 1
HDMI 1.4 x 1
802.11 b/g/n wifi + BT 4.0
less than 18mm thick
CPU passmark of ~2000 makes it perfectly usable for day to day tasks, about 16GB of available storage out of the box, expandable with SD card slot. Battery life is very close to advertised, even when streaming from Youtube etc
Build quality is what drew me to this model and feels much more sturdy than other notebooks in this price range along with double the performance of the likes of the HP steam. Slim and light means its great for travelling and portability.
Top comments
fishmaster
27 Mar 163#17
Horses for courses. I use OSX, Windows 10 and Linux (currently Ubuntu), the OS I mostly use at home is OSX as it has Ruby and Python built in, ready to go and I like how the OS functions. I don't notice OSX getting slow ever and I like how I have a proper terminal.
Now I can counter all the above arguments I'm making for OSX by saying well I can easily get Python and Ruby working on Windows 10 and once they're setup, they're setup and if you want a powerful command line then you have Powershell.
So what am I saying, I'm saying I use what I need and I'm not prejudice against any one OS, there is no perfect OS and there likely never will be, just as there's no one programming language for anything. You can roughly adapt all of the above to do just about anything you want, however all of the above are slightly better for one purpose or another, the trick is knowing your workload and choosing the correct way of executing that workload, so keeping things simple and efficient and this comes with experience as does most things. I'm still learning and will never stop learning, the same is true of all of us.
Si__
27 Mar 163#3
Shame this is the 2GB RAM model. Note - these can not have the RAM upgraded.
While Windows 10 can, and will run fine with 2GB of RAM, Once you start loading on non-app stuff, like 3rd party print drivers, chrome/firefox, symantec/avg anti-virus etc they'll start sucking the ram up as soon as you boot the machine.
Otherwise, if you can live with the offerings Microsoft give you by default, and apps, you'll have a really nice machine for the price.
probably the mcafee, i deleted it as soon as i got it. a fresh windows 10 install helps by the way
Si__
27 Mar 163#3
Shame this is the 2GB RAM model. Note - these can not have the RAM upgraded.
While Windows 10 can, and will run fine with 2GB of RAM, Once you start loading on non-app stuff, like 3rd party print drivers, chrome/firefox, symantec/avg anti-virus etc they'll start sucking the ram up as soon as you boot the machine.
Otherwise, if you can live with the offerings Microsoft give you by default, and apps, you'll have a really nice machine for the price.
adamspencer95 to Si__
27 Mar 16#6
i agree with you on this point. ive been using chrome/spotify/office and windows defender (+ all windows services) all running at the same time and not maxed the 2GB RAM, usually around 1.6GB
as long as the expectations are reasonable its a decent little machine
kingstongold to Si__
27 Mar 16#9
So I guess the RAM and the eMMC ssd chip (if you like) are both soldered to the board and irremovable?
Can anyone actually completely confirm that this is the case because whilst I don't doubt the memory I'd like to think the ssd could be changed although could be quite costly due to the size of the part
Tylocco to Si__
31 Mar 16#47
Bought one today and just installed Chrome on it. (McAfee on by default). RAM usage at 1.4GB (of 1.9GB) with Chrome open with bbc, wired.com and hotukdeals (!).
But I agree 2GB is really not much, so sticking to MS apps is probably the best bet.
Build quality seems good, darkish aluminium case. Screen no better or worse than the £200ish Acer ES1-512 that my son uses. Keyboard fine but space-bar needs a firmer push than the rest of the keys.
Really like the thinness, silent operation and good battery life. Seems like a good deal.
hcc27
29 Mar 161#46
Thanks for responding. I learnt something new today.
fishmaster
29 Mar 16#45
Hmm you can get IC Chip grinders, but it can be done by hand. The problem with chip grinders, especially the chinese ones is they're limited to certain ICs such as removing cloud lock on iPhones. The iPhone 6 is the only phone worth doing cloud unlock on to be fair. Anyway we don't get in to that, we do stuff such as replace U2 IC (iPhone) and various other ICs on phone mainboards and we don't have a chip grinder.
What you need for most repairs is decent hot air and decent soldering iron and practice.
hcc27
29 Mar 16#44
Apart from the skills I'm guessing you need specialist equipment as well?
carwacster
28 Mar 16#42
Can another owner please confirm, on the power button bottom right is it a lightning symbol or is mine just scratched?
adamspencer95 to carwacster
28 Mar 16#43
not sure what you mean, my power button just has the symbol for power, no lightening symbol
carwacster
28 Mar 16#41
Just picked one up will give it a good text and my excellent Linx 1010b with key red will be up for sale. Who's interested?
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davelambs
28 Mar 16#38
Wish they would just start making these with 4gb ram and 64gb hard drive. Would be perfect. I'd gladly pay a bit more.
adamspencer95 to davelambs
28 Mar 161#40
indeed, the 64GB storage would make things much easier and although i havent maxed the RAM yet, always good to have more
Agaeti
28 Mar 16#37
Would this be any good for doing university work, coding and viewing photos when I'm out with my camera. I'm looking for something with a decent battery that is light.
adamspencer95 to Agaeti
28 Mar 16#39
looks perfect to me! i use mine in university and it lasts all day easy, i usually manage about 12 hours of browsing, word processing and the odd video stream at about 40% brightness. the screen might let you down slightly in bright sunlight
Nohm
28 Mar 16#30
don't kid yourself "just less than £200" are you really that cheap too think of saving literally 1p?
adamspencer95 to Nohm
28 Mar 161#36
£199.99 is just less than £200 so why the hostility? what's your definition of 'just less than'?
furi0n
28 Mar 16#32
hi. this looks like cracking notebook, anyone know how this compares to a Macbook Air (1st Gen) or later? There was a feature in windows 7 called readyboost I think, where a removable drives memory can be used as RAM, is that also the case in windows 10 and is there a performance hit using this type of memory which is a lot slower to RAM itself?
adamspencer95 to furi0n
28 Mar 16#35
compared to the 1st gen (core 2 duo era), this notebook should be much faster. i think readyboost is still available but wont offer significant performance gains, it acts as a page file more than RAM. it will already have a page file on the C drive so its just moving it around.
abdullah1994uk1
28 Mar 16#31
Can the USB C be used for charging? If so then you could charge the laptop with a powerbank like the new mac air
adamspencer95 to abdullah1994uk1
28 Mar 16#34
i'm not sure but i dont think so to be honest
dar72
28 Mar 16#29
32GB storage? Do people not store files anymore? Or is this deal 15 years old?
adamspencer95 to dar72
28 Mar 16#33
with the increased use of streaming services for media content, and cloud storage for important documents and photos, the age of needing terrabytes of storage seems over for some.
i still like having hard copies backed up on my external storage, but SD expansion is still possible.
Skymonkey
28 Mar 16#28
I almost bought this a couple of weeks back. The build quality is really good. The battery life really appeals too, 14 hours is epic, just sling in a bag and off you go. Ideal for Web browsing, office, YouTube and just general day to day stuff. Can't go wrong for £199 - this may be the price to tempt me. The battery alone alone pretty much did that. Have some heat.
dovydasjarmoska
28 Mar 16#27
you cant replace ssd or rams its builted in motherboard, battery last around 5-6hours on low brightness. with 2gb ram its not enaugh every time i get error ram is full.
plewis00
27 Mar 16#26
It obviously depends what hardware you're running it on and you are clearly not the user this comment was intended for. Do you think the majority of people in this thread care about programming languages? This is about out-of-the-box experience for the most part - and those looking at an Asus E403SA probably want to turn Windows on and for it to run well.
I would hazard a guess that you're running higher-end or at least better hardware than many others including your OS X machine - but OS X, even from a fresh install, is slow and laggy on older hardware whereas this wasn't the case before.
adamspencer95
27 Mar 161#25
its not specifically the eMMC which means long battery life, more like the systems which use eMMC generally use very low powered hardware meaning a system which overall doesnt consume much battery.
as a side note, the eMMC in this model is a samsung bgnd3r eMMC 5.1 drive with speeds of up to 250MB/s reads and 125MB/s writes. pretty respectable
adamspencer95
27 Mar 161#24
they are pretty much the same to be honest, (within 5% of each other) with the n3540 in the 402 requiring slightly more power (7.5w vs 6w). paired with a much smaller battery, the e403 will last much longer on a charge. depends what is more important as the 402 offers flexibility to add a 2.5" disc drive
amour3k
27 Mar 16#1
I agree, these eMMC Memory Laptop's have ridiculously LONGGGGG Battery Lifes attached to them for real!, luvvvvvvvv it!.
If only some of them could have BIGGER Internal Memories built-in to them, huh?, lol. :-)
uptwisting to amour3k
27 Mar 16#23
Thanks, I didn't know that.
Bossworld
27 Mar 16#22
Ah no worries just assumed it was a DSG special to avoid price matching.
Looks as though the 402 has a slightly better CPU, for the sake of saving £30 I'll probably stick with it.
carwacster
27 Mar 16#21
Will Lighroom tether to this OK?
carwacster
27 Mar 16#19
Is it much better specs then the Linx1010b with keyboard deal that I got at Xmas?
adamspencer95 to carwacster
27 Mar 16#20
yes, the quad core is about twice as powerful as the atom in the linx series. whether you'll notice depends on how you use the linx really
fishmaster
27 Mar 161#18
Everything is replaceable if you have the skills, are the parts in this laptop user replaceable, as in can Joe Bloggs and his mates do it? Nope.
Where I work we can upgrade the NAND flash in an iPhone to a larger size and replace tiny I.Cs such as U2 IC. That's the sort of skills you require to upgrade this laptop, so in theory it's possible, in practice you need excellent skills.
fishmaster
27 Mar 163#17
Horses for courses. I use OSX, Windows 10 and Linux (currently Ubuntu), the OS I mostly use at home is OSX as it has Ruby and Python built in, ready to go and I like how the OS functions. I don't notice OSX getting slow ever and I like how I have a proper terminal.
Now I can counter all the above arguments I'm making for OSX by saying well I can easily get Python and Ruby working on Windows 10 and once they're setup, they're setup and if you want a powerful command line then you have Powershell.
So what am I saying, I'm saying I use what I need and I'm not prejudice against any one OS, there is no perfect OS and there likely never will be, just as there's no one programming language for anything. You can roughly adapt all of the above to do just about anything you want, however all of the above are slightly better for one purpose or another, the trick is knowing your workload and choosing the correct way of executing that workload, so keeping things simple and efficient and this comes with experience as does most things. I'm still learning and will never stop learning, the same is true of all of us.
Bossworld
27 Mar 16#12
According to the reviews of the 402, there's space for a 2.5" drive in there as well.
adamspencer95 to Bossworld
27 Mar 16#14
the e402ma is a different model altogether, no aluminium build, different processor and I/O, thicker with less battery life so i wouldnt draw any conclusions from that.
there is no easy access to the internals of the notebook due to the 'compact' nature of it but i dont think it will fit a 2.5" drive inside. i'd love to be proven wrong but finding any decent reviews of this model seems particularly difficult!
Maskarova to Bossworld
27 Mar 16#16
There is I've installed an ssd in mine and used the emmc memory as virtual ram, it works quite well. Sadly the e403 doesn't have this option as this was the laptop I was originally after.
Bossworld
27 Mar 16#4
Balls, I just pulled the trigger on the e402MA from John Lewis for £170. Looks like this has a slightly better CPU and the USB C thing.
flobbadob to Bossworld
27 Mar 16#15
I would definitely return the e402ma (luckily john lewis are good with this). I owned both laptops and the e403 has the same performance but 50% longer battery, no surprise as looking at the specs it has a much bigger battery! e403 = 57 watt hours, e402ma = 32 watt hours.
e403 is also thinner by a few mm and lighter by 150g, not to mention the really nice brushed aluminium finish which imo is lovely
kingstongold
27 Mar 16#13
Yeah I've had those before at work but this was with a 1k compact laptop which was suitably compact but packed a punch tech wise
adamspencer95
27 Mar 16#11
both soldered unfortunately, however i am on the hunt for a low profile SD adapter which sits flush with the housing to augment the internal storage without sticking out the side of the chassis. once i get one of those it should be fine
adamspencer95
27 Mar 16#10
completely agree, i have 2 'hipstreet w7' tablets (which are essentially copies of the linx 7) for HTPCs in the lounge and bedroom, only £49 each and they have only maxed their RAM when trying to stream high bitrate files due to caching to RAM. the atom Z3735 really is a remarkable little SOC, and the CPU in this notebook is essentially the new version of that on the braswell architecture (quad core, passive cooling with respectable performance). its processors like this which dont really reflect their actual performance in benchmarks
plewis00
27 Mar 16#8
The Linx 7 (and other similar tablets) with 1GB RAM are surprisingly efficient - for all the slating Microsoft gets, their latest OSes are very frugal with resources, dare I say it, better than OS X these days (which seems to almost demand 4GB and an SSD to be remotely useful). The Intel Atom Bay Trail and Cherry Trail processors are perfect for light-use and never really feel slow either.
DirtyQwerty
27 Mar 16#5
Anyone know how this would compare with the Toshiba C40-C? Looks like a similar spec (including 14 inch screen) but the Toshiba has a Intel Celeron N3050 processor. I'm guessing this Asus would be more powerful.
Only asking as I'm looking for a cheap laptop for around the house and the C40-C is £150 at Very at the moment.
adamspencer95 to DirtyQwerty
27 Mar 16#7
the N3050 was the alternative i was looking at, but has about half the theoretical performance of the quad core in this notebook. the N3050 should be okay doing 1/2 thing(s) at a time but this notebook can deal with a handful of programs at a time quite handily
Opening post
Specifications:
Intel Pentium Quad Core N3700 CPU (up to 2.4GHZ)
2GB DDR3 RAM
32GB eMMC memory
14 hour battery life
Aluminium construction
1366 x 768
USB 3.0 x 1
USB type C x 1
USB 2.0 x 1
HDMI 1.4 x 1
802.11 b/g/n wifi + BT 4.0
less than 18mm thick
CPU passmark of ~2000 makes it perfectly usable for day to day tasks, about 16GB of available storage out of the box, expandable with SD card slot. Battery life is very close to advertised, even when streaming from Youtube etc
Build quality is what drew me to this model and feels much more sturdy than other notebooks in this price range along with double the performance of the likes of the HP steam. Slim and light means its great for travelling and portability.
Top comments
Now I can counter all the above arguments I'm making for OSX by saying well I can easily get Python and Ruby working on Windows 10 and once they're setup, they're setup and if you want a powerful command line then you have Powershell.
So what am I saying, I'm saying I use what I need and I'm not prejudice against any one OS, there is no perfect OS and there likely never will be, just as there's no one programming language for anything. You can roughly adapt all of the above to do just about anything you want, however all of the above are slightly better for one purpose or another, the trick is knowing your workload and choosing the correct way of executing that workload, so keeping things simple and efficient and this comes with experience as does most things. I'm still learning and will never stop learning, the same is true of all of us.
While Windows 10 can, and will run fine with 2GB of RAM, Once you start loading on non-app stuff, like 3rd party print drivers, chrome/firefox, symantec/avg anti-virus etc they'll start sucking the ram up as soon as you boot the machine.
Otherwise, if you can live with the offerings Microsoft give you by default, and apps, you'll have a really nice machine for the price.
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While Windows 10 can, and will run fine with 2GB of RAM, Once you start loading on non-app stuff, like 3rd party print drivers, chrome/firefox, symantec/avg anti-virus etc they'll start sucking the ram up as soon as you boot the machine.
Otherwise, if you can live with the offerings Microsoft give you by default, and apps, you'll have a really nice machine for the price.
as long as the expectations are reasonable its a decent little machine
Can anyone actually completely confirm that this is the case because whilst I don't doubt the memory I'd like to think the ssd could be changed although could be quite costly due to the size of the part
But I agree 2GB is really not much, so sticking to MS apps is probably the best bet.
Build quality seems good, darkish aluminium case. Screen no better or worse than the £200ish Acer ES1-512 that my son uses. Keyboard fine but space-bar needs a firmer push than the rest of the keys.
Really like the thinness, silent operation and good battery life. Seems like a good deal.
Here's how an IC grinder works >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_beuQHuZGY
What you need for most repairs is decent hot air and decent soldering iron and practice.
E
i still like having hard copies backed up on my external storage, but SD expansion is still possible.
I would hazard a guess that you're running higher-end or at least better hardware than many others including your OS X machine - but OS X, even from a fresh install, is slow and laggy on older hardware whereas this wasn't the case before.
as a side note, the eMMC in this model is a samsung bgnd3r eMMC 5.1 drive with speeds of up to 250MB/s reads and 125MB/s writes. pretty respectable
If only some of them could have BIGGER Internal Memories built-in to them, huh?, lol. :-)
Looks as though the 402 has a slightly better CPU, for the sake of saving £30 I'll probably stick with it.
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/ASUS/e403sa
Where I work we can upgrade the NAND flash in an iPhone to a larger size and replace tiny I.Cs such as U2 IC. That's the sort of skills you require to upgrade this laptop, so in theory it's possible, in practice you need excellent skills.
Now I can counter all the above arguments I'm making for OSX by saying well I can easily get Python and Ruby working on Windows 10 and once they're setup, they're setup and if you want a powerful command line then you have Powershell.
So what am I saying, I'm saying I use what I need and I'm not prejudice against any one OS, there is no perfect OS and there likely never will be, just as there's no one programming language for anything. You can roughly adapt all of the above to do just about anything you want, however all of the above are slightly better for one purpose or another, the trick is knowing your workload and choosing the correct way of executing that workload, so keeping things simple and efficient and this comes with experience as does most things. I'm still learning and will never stop learning, the same is true of all of us.
there is no easy access to the internals of the notebook due to the 'compact' nature of it but i dont think it will fit a 2.5" drive inside. i'd love to be proven wrong but finding any decent reviews of this model seems particularly difficult!
e403 is also thinner by a few mm and lighter by 150g, not to mention the really nice brushed aluminium finish which imo is lovely
Only asking as I'm looking for a cheap laptop for around the house and the C40-C is £150 at Very at the moment.