And one will blow a ps4 away :smiley:

Good price for a 4GB card and a great make.
I have managed to find a Gigabyte Gtx 970 for 215 quid....Still not sure if I should wait ( I am cardless at the moment) for the new pascals. I will be stuck at HD until I get a new TV so not even sure if the new cards will be that great for me. And £215 is a great price I reckon.

I could get a PS4 for two of these.

For the price of two (2) of these, I could get a PS4.

How do you know all this? :stuck_out_tongue:

Where do the games go?

You find it then post a deal m8 ! :smiley:

But what is the relevance? A PS4 is a console this is a graphics card.

But surely lower power consumption and less heat for the same performance means performance could be increased from the hardware? After 2-3 years of using the same hardware they have been able to increase performance?

Fair enough.

But I could get a Vita for one of these.

Damn good deal, must resist!!

Underneath the fans.

Out of stock already

Think they are all gone now?

I predict a £260 GTX 1070 with:
- 25% higher performance
- 4 or 8gb VRAM options
- Improved bandwidth for 1440p+
- A-sync support. I just don't think they can take a gamble omitting this DX12 feature, especially on the successor to such a popular card. Unfortunately if they do add it they will start encouraging developers to utilise it which would cripple the 900/Maxwell series over the next 12-24 months.

Can't speak for JimBobJr, but it what he wrote is not unreasonable. 16nm/14nm is expected to be more expensive than even 28nm was introduction and back then AMD début'ed with a 352mm2 (Tahiti) and Nvidia with 294mm2 (GK104).
Being new node and more expensive per waffer, makes coming out with very large die even more risky, so I would expect neither side go far above 300mm2. Using that as a basis means that in pure transistor terms even at 14nm they are unlikely to have a budget far above something like GM200 (601mm2).
Also, neither GDDR5X or HBM2 are in volume yet and while for mid-range AMD could use HBM1 they did confirm that Polaris is GDDR5 (and HMB1's practical 4GB limit didn't go down to well with Fury), so even if both GP104 and Polaris 10 use 384-bit bus and have more enhancement to their texture compression feature, any larger shader count than the current GTX 980Ti or Fury X would mostly become bandwidth constraint.
Obviously, architectural enhancements are possible too.
AMD will have been concentrating on per/watt so probably slimmed down their design somewhat (even less DP and other computer features not useful to gaming). The compute heavy way they went with the original Tahiti 7970 has cost them a lot of potential profit in terms of die size (not to mention making their cards have worse perf/watt which aside from the bad press also means their OEM partners have to spend more on materials like beefier VRMs etc.), although recent games are starting to use some of those features they are necessary to get the most out of the consoles.
While Nvidia may have gone slightly the opposite way and added some of the 'fat' the removed in Maxwell if they correctly read the way the market is going as their cards are doing badly in recent games. Features like at least a semi-hardware scheduler for DX12 Async Compute (which is not too dissimilar to Intel's Hypertreathing in that it tries to use idle parts of the chip while another part is busy), possible more.
Nvidia may also release GP100 soon but only to their Tesla buying big spenders. Yields might be terrible and it's a lot capital risk in terms of die revisions but then Nvidia do have far more R&D money than AMD so they can afford to waste some.

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Sure, a guess is a guess. But with some of the hyperbole (Pascal/Polaris will be twice as quick as 980Ti/Fury X ) it helps to put a dampener on things.
And the yields, waffer costs, timing re. HBM2/GDDR5X are not unreasonable rumours/guesses even if they don't align with people wanting to have 600mm2 16nm/14nm flagships by this summer.

1070 for £260? No chance this is greedvidia and they soon part a fool and his money
Also it will be 7.5gb lol

The word of GEEK is upon him!

Good cards, got this for less tho*, well made .Quiet ..

*Requested my Cashback as 15 euros rather than 10 pounds and they paid it, then sent me an email requesting the difference back. I, of course, politely declined.

This is seperate to anything discussed here but I just wanted to say.

I love your picture!

Edit: not the troll meme but the donkey.

Awww thank you :smile:.

Yea, the donkey is cool.

http://youtu.be/IzGagdteDq8

980ti beating fury X by about 25% at 4K despite dx12 and async compute. You and Ferrari must be spitting feathers.

MSI NVIDIA GTX 970 Gaming Twin Frozr-Amazon Warehouse- £199.18

Last one! Used - Very Good
Do what i did- send Amazon an email, or Live Chat ,and say the £20 Amazon Warehouse deal didn't work so could they (pretty please) refund the 20 quid. I manged to buy a "as New" one for a few quid more and even with the Pascals coming out you won't find better value/performance at 1080P.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00NOP536Y/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

Not really as that game is running physx in the background.
So it's using the cpu on the amd card.
gow is a total dogs dinner as its a stuttering mess on a Titian X.
Also it dosnt use async same as rise of the tomb taider.
Notice they are both gamework titles too :smirk: