This is great news for families with kids who wear nappies etc as ages go up to 8years. But also tall kids too.
Includes bodysuits, sleepsuits and vests from £3.
This is what I hate about this site. The judgement! 2 out of my 3 children have SPECIAL NEEDS/ ADDITIONAL NEEDS! It's a deal, a great deal and all someone is bothered about is the title.
Great find
skizz_b to Treacle2009
22 Feb 1611#8
In the grand scheme of things, as per Vinegar's comment, a child being big for their age constitutes special needs (in terms of clothing) as well, given they have needs outside of the "norm", no?
The Op didn't mention any disabilities, neither did anyone who replied to your post...the only person who linked the term "special needs" with children who have disabilities, was yourself.
Anyway, heat added.
gemz1269
22 Feb 169#3
Hot!!! Thanks for posting.
Finally a quality mainstream retailer has started to bridge the gap, even if its only in a small way. Its a real struggle for parents finding larger sizes from mainstream retailers.
It annoys me that large specialist retailers have the ability to massively over inflate prices for these products because they have the monopoly in a niche market. People with disabilities &/or their families/carers are left without choice & are forced to buy from a handfull of companies, most of which are the same company but disguised behind multiple traiding names.
If more mainstream retailers offered ranges (even just basic one's), it would force the hands of the specialist retailers and hopefully make for fairer pricing.
wild_quinine
23 Feb 168#16
Here's what I've come to expect of people working hard to be offended on behalf of others. I'll tell the story in a HUKD context, but you see this nonsense in all walks of life.
1) Someone posts a deal and uses a term that someone is uncomfortable with - always on behalf of others of course!
2) That person raises a stink. The deal gets changed, removed, voted down, whatever.
3) Someone who would have benefited from the deal and is in general unconcerned about the words well meaning people are using does not see the deal.
4) Equality is achieved! Well done comrades, we've protected poor minority group X from seeing a slightly uncomfortable term once more!
All comments (30)
allpinknsparkly
22 Feb 165#1
This is a great idea, not only for special needs children but I found with my last baby that we had to give up on vests early because she was too big for the standard sizes. This range will be good for my latest chunky baby. Thanks.
AnnaMak to allpinknsparkly
22 Feb 162#2
Same here my then 2yo, needed 3-4y before potty training, and shops stopped at 2-3y
gemz1269
22 Feb 169#3
Hot!!! Thanks for posting.
Finally a quality mainstream retailer has started to bridge the gap, even if its only in a small way. Its a real struggle for parents finding larger sizes from mainstream retailers.
It annoys me that large specialist retailers have the ability to massively over inflate prices for these products because they have the monopoly in a niche market. People with disabilities &/or their families/carers are left without choice & are forced to buy from a handfull of companies, most of which are the same company but disguised behind multiple traiding names.
If more mainstream retailers offered ranges (even just basic one's), it would force the hands of the specialist retailers and hopefully make for fairer pricing.
Treacle2009
22 Feb 165#4
This is great but I think the description "special needs" needs revising.
AnnaMak to Treacle2009
22 Feb 161#6
What would you suggest? Extended use?
escortboy to Treacle2009
23 Feb 162#13
To? I know schools say special needs if a student has learning difficulties so it's not insulting as some turns of phrase can be but I'm curious about how we would say the title in PC terms.
cb-uk to Treacle2009
23 Feb 162#21
Being labelled as "Special" doesn't mean you're thick or in some way challenged.
Just look at "Special" police officers........... err, perhaps that isn't the best example :wink:
VinegarTits
22 Feb 166#5
Don't be silly, it is what it is. Some people have needs beyond those of other people hence special needs.
Treacle2009
22 Feb 16#7
It shouldn't be targeted at children with "special needs" what about children that are big for their age? Also I work with children with disabilities & this range of clothing or the title in this post shouldn't be aimed at disabled or children with "special needs" it's not necessary to put. It's suitable for any child of the age it's targeted at
skizz_b to Treacle2009
22 Feb 1611#8
In the grand scheme of things, as per Vinegar's comment, a child being big for their age constitutes special needs (in terms of clothing) as well, given they have needs outside of the "norm", no?
The Op didn't mention any disabilities, neither did anyone who replied to your post...the only person who linked the term "special needs" with children who have disabilities, was yourself.
Anyway, heat added.
vanessaanne
22 Feb 163#9
Great post for those of us with special needs choldren and you can put what ever you want in your title. Thanks for the post
Mighty__Mag
22 Feb 16#10
2016 special needs :disappointed:
I take it m&s were not daft enough to name it special needs clothing ?
lorenb26t
22 Feb 1615#11
This is what I hate about this site. The judgement! 2 out of my 3 children have SPECIAL NEEDS/ ADDITIONAL NEEDS! It's a deal, a great deal and all someone is bothered about is the title.
Great find
Rodders89
23 Feb 163#12
bought some of these for my son last week who has special needs(5 year old severely autistic) and they're brilliant excellent fit and great value
Dennis The Menac
23 Feb 16#14
Heat added
Freyalinia
23 Feb 164#15
Everyone gets offended by everything these days
wild_quinine
23 Feb 168#16
Here's what I've come to expect of people working hard to be offended on behalf of others. I'll tell the story in a HUKD context, but you see this nonsense in all walks of life.
1) Someone posts a deal and uses a term that someone is uncomfortable with - always on behalf of others of course!
2) That person raises a stink. The deal gets changed, removed, voted down, whatever.
3) Someone who would have benefited from the deal and is in general unconcerned about the words well meaning people are using does not see the deal.
4) Equality is achieved! Well done comrades, we've protected poor minority group X from seeing a slightly uncomfortable term once more!
wagamamaluva
23 Feb 162#17
But they have........it actually states it in their description. Their heading says "Specialist Body Suits and Sleepwear" and the description "..........making them ideal for children with special needs". They have in fact used the word "special" twice. My point is, special needs, specific needs or whatever you want to call it, the OP has posted this according to Marks & Spencer website so whoever has a gripe should direct it at Marks and Spencer and stop calling people "daft".
I had seen this earlier a few weeks ago on the Manchester evening News a few weeks ago, thanks OP for updating us. I have a child with Cerebral Palsy and "special needs". I do not understand what is to be offended about the term "special needs". People you need to get a grip, an able person is known as Neuro-typical!
techymum
23 Feb 16#19
Tesco F&F range also do bodysuits for 2-3 year olds. Thanks for posting OP. I thought bodysuits only went up to 2 years old until I saw this.
Well done M&S. My son has severe Autism and does have "Special Needs", so the title caught my eye and was really helpful. People that have issues with the words used, clearly need to spend less time worrying about unimportant things like this and more time on the important things in life! Heat added from me!
chance83
23 Feb 162#24
This is a marvellous idea! Sad people have so much time on their hands that they need to be picking at the title!
Unsure what other terminology would be good to use! I would say this is PC.
Well done! Heat added.
zmar01
23 Feb 16#25
All I see is people complaining about people being judgemental,
but no one actually being judgemental.
gloria56
23 Feb 16#26
Very inclusive.
RitaRothwell
24 Feb 162#27
Well as I am the person responsible for the new clothing range which has just been launched by M&S I never thought I would have upset people by asking M&S to make a clothing range for children with special needs. My grandson is nearly 4 and is still using nappies but is also tube fed as he has multiple disabilities. I was delighted when M&S agreed to do bigger clothing that would help his mum and dad to change his nappy and feed him in a more discreet way and help with night feeding, changing etc. I even have a facebook group called "M&S and Me. Special needs clothing for children" and not one of over 4,000 members has ever challenged the name. I don't know what else it could be called. Even if your child is not disabled but needs popper clothing for longer than the norm then I think it would be classed as a special need. I thought I was doing something that would help lots of people never in a million years did I think there would be an issue with the description of the clothes, It is not M&S fault (if it is a fault) it is mine. Please take a look at the Group aforementioned and you will see the comments and photos of the children who are benefiting. Then come back on here and tell me what else it should be called. Rita.
gemz1269 to RitaRothwell
24 Feb 161#29
Well congratulations on such a great achievement. It's not easy getting your voice heard, so thank you for your effort and achievement. As for M&S, its refreshing to hear a big company listened to an individual consumer idea & came through with the goods. They must have been very impressed with the pitch. Well done to your combined effort.
Also ignore ignorant comments, some people have something negative to say about everything.
I mean if "Special needs" was so offensive then schools wouldn't use terms like SENCO's (special educational needs coordinator) and the gov wouldn't still use the term S.E.N.D (special educational needs and disabilities).
gemz1269
24 Feb 16#28
Hi again
I signed this petition last week.
Thought since the topic came up it was worth adding the link into this post.
Hope OP doesn't mind? Will remove and re-post in misc if you do AnnaMak, but its not really a deal yet & it will get more veiws here.
Opening post
Includes bodysuits, sleepsuits and vests from £3.
Range is now available.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/family-kids-news/ms-special-needs-clothing-range-10862345
Top comments
Great find
The Op didn't mention any disabilities, neither did anyone who replied to your post...the only person who linked the term "special needs" with children who have disabilities, was yourself.
Anyway, heat added.
Finally a quality mainstream retailer has started to bridge the gap, even if its only in a small way. Its a real struggle for parents finding larger sizes from mainstream retailers.
It annoys me that large specialist retailers have the ability to massively over inflate prices for these products because they have the monopoly in a niche market. People with disabilities &/or their families/carers are left without choice & are forced to buy from a handfull of companies, most of which are the same company but disguised behind multiple traiding names.
If more mainstream retailers offered ranges (even just basic one's), it would force the hands of the specialist retailers and hopefully make for fairer pricing.
1) Someone posts a deal and uses a term that someone is uncomfortable with - always on behalf of others of course!
2) That person raises a stink. The deal gets changed, removed, voted down, whatever.
3) Someone who would have benefited from the deal and is in general unconcerned about the words well meaning people are using does not see the deal.
4) Equality is achieved! Well done comrades, we've protected poor minority group X from seeing a slightly uncomfortable term once more!
All comments (30)
Finally a quality mainstream retailer has started to bridge the gap, even if its only in a small way. Its a real struggle for parents finding larger sizes from mainstream retailers.
It annoys me that large specialist retailers have the ability to massively over inflate prices for these products because they have the monopoly in a niche market. People with disabilities &/or their families/carers are left without choice & are forced to buy from a handfull of companies, most of which are the same company but disguised behind multiple traiding names.
If more mainstream retailers offered ranges (even just basic one's), it would force the hands of the specialist retailers and hopefully make for fairer pricing.
Just look at "Special" police officers........... err, perhaps that isn't the best example :wink:
The Op didn't mention any disabilities, neither did anyone who replied to your post...the only person who linked the term "special needs" with children who have disabilities, was yourself.
Anyway, heat added.
I take it m&s were not daft enough to name it special needs clothing ?
Great find
1) Someone posts a deal and uses a term that someone is uncomfortable with - always on behalf of others of course!
2) That person raises a stink. The deal gets changed, removed, voted down, whatever.
3) Someone who would have benefited from the deal and is in general unconcerned about the words well meaning people are using does not see the deal.
4) Equality is achieved! Well done comrades, we've protected poor minority group X from seeing a slightly uncomfortable term once more!
http://www.marksandspencer.com/l/kids/specialist-bodysuits-and-sleepwear
M&S
Unsure what other terminology would be good to use! I would say this is PC.
Well done! Heat added.
but no one actually being judgemental.
Also ignore ignorant comments, some people have something negative to say about everything.
I mean if "Special needs" was so offensive then schools wouldn't use terms like SENCO's (special educational needs coordinator) and the gov wouldn't still use the term S.E.N.D (special educational needs and disabilities).
I signed this petition last week.
Thought since the topic came up it was worth adding the link into this post.
Hope OP doesn't mind? Will remove and re-post in misc if you do AnnaMak, but its not really a deal yet & it will get more veiws here.
Please take a look & sign if you support this, i personally think this is a fab ifea abd hope they do really well. This to get supermarkets to sell larger nappies to cater for "special needs"/"non typically developing" children who have now outgrown nappies that are widely available in stores.
Petition link
https://www.change.org/p/tesco-asda-morrisons-sainsburys-lidl-aldi-ocado-waitrose-supermarkets-to-sell-or-make-larger-nappies-for-children-with-additional-support-needs
I've added her origional FB plea if you want to read it
https://m.facebook.com/tesco/posts/994039050655226?comment_id=490917914427012%C2%ACif_t%3Dfeed_comment