In b4 failure rate experts take over....

I had a local Virgin internet and TV outage in my area last week for the best part of 24 hours. If I hadn't had my archive I would have had to talk to people. To hell with the cloud!

You all sound like jerks, quite frankly.

Retrotech wasn't just being "a little sarcastic." He was in fact being difficult and unhelpful. Huanggxq2 asked a perfectly legitimate question in a very straightforward way. It wasn't stupid and it didn't deserve a sarcastic response.

Blue is a normal HDD.
Black is the higher end performance HDD with longer warranty.
Red is their NAS/24-7 lineup mostly with a 3yr warranty.
Red Pro is the same as above but with a 5yr warranty.

This drive slows down to a crawl (20MB/s) once more than ~100GB of sustained data is written (all in one go) due to the SMR process. For the intended purposes of using as a storage drive and writing to occasionally, it's fine.

Isn't it about time there was an SSD of similar size that was reasonably priced? m.2 drives are overtaking SSDs for sheer speed, and how Samsung can shift their internal and external 2tb SSDs at an eye watering £650 I'll never know. Costs more than a GTX 980ti and most people's PC!

And care to comment where is the attitude problem?

You are over-thinking this. He continuously make jokes rather than trying to be helpful. I ignored him because I feel his comments are a waste of my time. End of story.

I think some manners would go a miss on that last post, Retro was only being a little sarcastic and pulling your chain, I also read it as "it's a seagate drive inside what's this guy drinking", so If I think that then many others will too so you should of been more specific.

Enough said. Genuine help. Very much appreciated.

Joke around and talk non-sense one time after another continuous. Not appreciated. Does not contribute anything useful.

I don't think anyone will help you with an attitude like that.

I asked "What is the drive model inside?"

Not brand.

I do not know how much more clear or descriptive I need to be on such a question. Maybe you can suggest a better way to ask.


And what is "I still think it's a WD, model number 12345678910" about? It is completely waste of time. Do not know the answer, do not talk non-sense.

In all fairness huangxq2 you wasn't specific and I also read it as you was asking what drive was in a Seagate enclosure......

Don't ask stupid questions then!

You are ignored from now on. Do not waste people's time.

All my drives are already 4TB.

As there are 8TB at acceptable price, I would like my upgrade to 8TB rather than 6TB.

There is not any 8TB from other brands at acceptable price.

I might just wait longer if the only 8TB is Seagate with those problems I do not like.

Then why don't you go for a brand that doesn't have this?

I know people say Seagate drives also have bad reliability or higher failure rates.

But the feature really annoy me, it affects my day-to-day use.

On all my 4TB seagate drives inside my PC, the first time I access them, it talks 10 seconds to load up explorer page which I hate the function. It may be the way Seagate try to be energy efficient. But I just simply hated it.

I bought a 5400RPM 3TB Toshiba E300 last year. It does not have the same problem at all.

That is why if I buy Seagate, I want to make sure I do not get a drive with the function I hate.

I googled it before, some say it is a ST8000AS0002 inside.

ST8000AS0002 has been selling for £170, even today can be bought at £182. No savings.

Also I have heard comments that ST8000AS0002 is slower than a normal HDD due to SMR.

Which is why I am concerned and would like to know the exact model if someone purchased and opened it to use as internal hard drive.

I still think it's a WD, model number 12345678910

It's likely the ST8000DM002 (desktop grade) although I seem to recall a while back people saying it was the ST8000VN0002 (enterprise archive grade) that was in them. The actual contents of external drives like this are usually subject to change as new drives are introduced and depending on manufacture volumes.

Either way you're saving over £100 buying it in an external caddy than buying the bare drive.

Really? WD in a Seagate external hard drive?

I was asking for the exact model of 3.5 inch hard drive inside the enclouse.

What is the drive model inside?

Talking and socialising with people, how novel! Sounds awesome where do I sign up :smiley:

WD black. Red is normal hdd. Black is proffesional server edytion.ofc you can buy only used. New one cost a lot. But IF you consider 5 year warranty..at the end point you can receive a new one :wink:

By the way, it's no problem to swap a cheap 4tb hotswap drive with the caddy already on containing 3500+ films

Bit on the small side - think this is only 6,034,376 3.5 inch floppy disks.

Agreed, the good old cloud is not reliable, archive and a backup is the way to go, no sky vm movie subs here, i have more films than them put together anyway for free and get them earlier

but pumping £200 into a hdd is a false economy

Moore's law holds good again. x 1000 every 20 years. In 1996 I was demonstrating the latest 9 GB drives to the boss, in a large midrange unux system. In '76 before my time but I bet somebody's father was eagerly purchasing 8 KB drives. In 2047...

I'm sensing that larger and larger storage is becoming redundant. I no longer store any films or media. Faster broadband and streaming is where it's at. I can see this happening with gaming too, of course I can see the need for storage for games and people who can't stream as not all broadband is = . However I'm not at the mercy of hardware failure or worrying about backing content up. The only things I back up are documents and photos which I cloud backup as well as keeping on a modest amount of storage on my PC which is around 1TB or less. I'm currently reducing the amount of storage I have

So I'd personally like to say to conventional hard drives, lest I believe they have some consciousness, go do one!

Was £185 at Christmas, did not take the bite, not taking my chance now either.

Same price at Amazon and Flubit just gave me an instant offer of £196.99 (2% off, but more definite than TCB).

That said, 8TB is a lot of stuff to trust to one drive (unless this is a backup for another 8TB drive, obviously).

These are intended as archival drives so keep that in mind for your intended use case. If you're dropping a lot of files on it which aren't going to be edited or accessed frequently it's ideal. If it's working storage where you'll be making edits and frequent access to files it's not the kind of use it's rated for.

No contest. WD Red.

5,900 rpm. I would never buy from a retailer who doesn't know what they are selling, unless it gave a massive price saving of course. Same price at JL.

Decent drive though. Canvio 5TB has better performance and offers better value, certainly better speed.

This or a WD Red 6TB for a NAS? :man: hmm

same price most places so no great deal

I have been waiting for this price to move for a few months

In b4 failure rate experts take over....