just to warn people this phone has a couple of odd limitations, which if you use mapping apps, could be a deal breaker!

- no compass. yup, no magnetometer (also no gyro, but nothing at this price does). wtf samsung.
i think no light or proximity sensors either, someone confirm?
- only 2 finger touch screen.
(may be issue for games also?)


this plus the waterproofness, plus the software pushed me back to the MotoG 2015.. sorry boring i know.

also this isn't dual sim (neither are).

the 1.5GB RAM though is a huge bonus. (it's not 50% more usable working space, it's more like double because of the system usage).
and that OLED screen.

there is no phone at this price point that doesn't have one huge problem. i've looked hard. (MotoG problem is 1GB RAM). P8 lite has small battery. M4 aqua has doubtful reliability and camera. etc etc.

edit2: size wise there's very little in it.
142.1 x 71.8 x 7.9 mm vs 142.1 x 72.4 x 11.6 mm tapered on the motog (thinner edges)
motog a LOT less slippery! probably irrelevant in a case..
cameras, jury's out on that, personally i prefer the HDR on the motog.

they are both slow old Snapdragon 410/Adreno 306 but the Samsung is slower clocked 1.2 vs 1.4Ghz motog.

if you want a faster phone and don't mind the screen/battery, look at the P8 lite.

now this is at top, could someone with one please install this app (free with ads)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gn.android.compass&hl=en_GB
and tell me what happens when you run it? i find it hard to believe any phone now wouldn't have compass.
ta

Before anyone says

"You can get a moto g, blah blah blah"


This > Moto g

Better Camera
Removable Battery
Bigger Battery
Cheaper
Design - Subjective
Thinner
Lighter
NFC

I wouldn't call 2600mAh battery "massive"
It will suffice however

The camera isn't bad on the Huawei, it's the screen that's the problem. It's dull and washed out with poor peak brightness levels (difficult to use outdoors).

The J5 camera isn't awful, it's just not as good as the other phones with 13MP sensors.

Every phone at this price is somewhat compromised.

Full Specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j5-7184.php

Plus 5% Topcashback

I wouldn't call 2600mAh battery "massive"
It will suffice however

Before anyone says

"You can get a moto g, blah blah blah"


This > Moto g

Better Camera
Removable Battery
Bigger Battery
Cheaper
Design - Subjective
Thinner
Lighter
NFC

I have a Moto G2 and I have to say this phone has an excellent spec for the money and more features that the Moto G, PDG in my humble opinion.

Internal memory only 8gb you really need to point this spec out as I personally think this is not useable if you plan on using and install a handful of apps. If you don't use you your phone much I think it's fine but 16gb is a minimum. The snapdragon 410 is fine in this price range. All other specs are good too. Also I would put upgrade in the title just so people know it's only upgrade

Probably but some apps like what's app and other messaging services store images videos ect on to the phone memory and you cannot set it to store on memory card. A lot of people have auto download set. Iam sounding old here now but a lot of younger generation send messages and pictures to each other and don't memory manage so 8gb fills up really quickly. But each use case us different just a heads up to perarants buying for there children. This has been the case in my experience a lot of people who have kids only have a few messaging apps and bulk of storage is taken up by that.

I've bought two of these recently on a £9 a month tariff with ID Mobile and have been really impressed with the phone.
Decent build quality, screen is bright and sharp enough, all the features I use are there.

HEAT!

Great phone for £90 all day long..

>>>>>
CPW payg upgrade terms:

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/upgrade/pay-as-you-go

Are these locked or unlocked?

He IS "right" - I also thank him for his - valuable - input

I've recently bought LG G4 on PAYG with Vodafone and it was locked.

From CPW?

I would rather get he Huawei p8 lite

I bought one of these for my daughter for Christmas and they're unlocked. Compared to the moto g I'd say this is better in two ways, better screen and camera. Apart from that there's not much in it speed wise.

amazing phone I got it on contract and love it

Just read your posts then googled Moto G2 and the price is about £130, does anyone know a cheaper price as I'm half interested as I have a SIM only contract with EE, could I use it on the Moto G2 . Just noted the Moto G2 is 8mp whereas the one advertised in original post is 13mp

Good phone and good price. Apart from 8gb built in memory. Thanks for the post

how do i get this for £89

I'm using one now... I wouldn't buy a phone with 8gb internal again though
.. I've put a 64 GB card in to but most Apps can't be moved to add card.. it's really limiting.

is this not really £99 plus £10 top up as £89 only for upgrades?

Decisions... decisions....
Moto G3 v this one?
Moto - Gorilla glass & waterproof
Samsung - better camera & screen def, removable battery....
the Samsung is also available for £99 at Vodafone http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pay-as-you-go/samsung-galaxy-j5-payg/sku89544

This deal is not available to everyone but is getting a fair amount of heat. I bought it on saturday after seeing the last deal which was £ 110.

Is this better than the s3?

Since when did people assume amoled was a positive...

It's a personal thing. I like the blacks with oled displays, but I don't like the blue tinge a lot have, and the ink spots (on ths S3, Note 2), etc.

I agree with the blacks and they're definitely more vibrant and nice to look at but the greys have a yellow tinge which really put me off, and the pentile matrix was noticeable on my Note 4. Made my iPhone 6 look like it had a higher ppi. The main issue I have is the eventual screen ghosting when the OLEDS deteriorate (might have been what you meant by ink spots).

you might want to put the fact its a PHONE in the title

The ink spots probably doesn't effect most people and probably is a bit like backlight bleed, were every device seems different (with IPS displays anyway).



I use CM with the black themes so it's much more visible this way, with the default firmware and UI, probably less so.

Ok no that's not what I was referring to, didn't realise that issue existed. The issue I have is this:


Takes at least a year usually but enough people know about it for it to affect resale value. Obviously with this phone resale value isn't an issue as its already cheap!

The OP would get more HOT votes if they did.

On the big screen it reads Samsung Camera & you don't see the icon unless you enter the link.

Until I entered the link I thought it was a £90 Samsung Camera.

Samsung do not make good cameras.

Looks like image retention. Not good.

Yeah. Was deciding between the S6 edge and iPhone 6 and thought they might have been able to improve things but the S6 edge in the store had much worse screen ghosting than that image... Obviously I wouldn't have screen on as long as the stores do but still it's an eventuality rather than an if.

The 8/1GB

95 from CPW, but more ram and storage space for apps (16gb instead of 8gb)

I agree. Added and updated


Haaha Yes. The amount of times people recommended moto g, sigh

rather moto g waterproof better camera longer lasting battery faster soc less bloat less ram used less memory used faster updates and more solid.only positive sammy has over moto g is miracast or screen mirroring

My phone keeps breaking up peoples voices when i call, so i have just been looking at this on youtube, then seen it here. It doesnt seem good from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psEiAVXoWUM

i was looking at the vodafone smart ultra 6, which is £115 on vodafone, which looks great apart from its a little big.
my phone now is first gen motorola g. i do adore it to be honest. shall i get a 3rd gen?. is it £99 yeh?. any help please :smiley:

Moto G 3rd is £89 from Vodafone, with no mandatory top-up (select keep SIM before checkout). Unlock codes are about £2 on ebay.

just to warn people this phone has a couple of odd limitations, which if you use mapping apps, could be a deal breaker!

- no compass. yup, no magnetometer (also no gyro, but nothing at this price does). wtf samsung.
i think no light or proximity sensors either, someone confirm?
- only 2 finger touch screen.
(may be issue for games also?)


this plus the waterproofness, plus the software pushed me back to the MotoG 2015.. sorry boring i know.

also this isn't dual sim (neither are).

the 1.5GB RAM though is a huge bonus. (it's not 50% more usable working space, it's more like double because of the system usage).
and that OLED screen.

there is no phone at this price point that doesn't have one huge problem. i've looked hard. (MotoG problem is 1GB RAM). P8 lite has small battery. M4 aqua has doubtful reliability and camera. etc etc.

edit2: size wise there's very little in it.
142.1 x 71.8 x 7.9 mm vs 142.1 x 72.4 x 11.6 mm tapered on the motog (thinner edges)
motog a LOT less slippery! probably irrelevant in a case..
cameras, jury's out on that, personally i prefer the HDR on the motog.

they are both slow old Snapdragon 410/Adreno 306 but the Samsung is slower clocked 1.2 vs 1.4Ghz motog.

if you want a faster phone and don't mind the screen/battery, look at the P8 lite.

now this is at top, could someone with one please install this app (free with ads)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gn.android.compass&hl=en_GB
and tell me what happens when you run it? i find it hard to believe any phone now wouldn't have compass.
ta

I have this phone. Very snappy to use. Nice clear screen. Decent battery life. However, the 8gb internal memory is proving a pain. I dont have that many apps either, no games. I use whatsapp and im thinking it must be using the phone memory to save the photos as that is the only thing i can think off that is using up all the internal memory.I know for sure the camera is saving photos to the sd card. The good news is that the j5 is getting marshmellow and apparently you can use the sd card as internal memory. Other than this, its a fantastic phone.

Is the camera really better than the Moto g 3rd gen? Opinion seems divided and I would like a decent camera for a change.

Also there is the Huwaei P8 Lite for £99, http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pay-as-you-go/huawei-p8-payg/sku88692 perhaps that is another option, does anyone know what the camera is like on that?

Would this be an improvement on a galaxy s3? Mines coming up to four years old and it really feels it. Or is there another phone that would be good? Ideally for under £150.

Some people say the p8 lite battery is perfect and lasts a day, others say it last 7 ish hours. Can you confirm which is right?

Easily lasts a day. Get around 4-5hours screentime!

Alternative for £98

5.5 inch Lenovo K3 Note (k50-t5) Android 5.0 Smartphone 4G LTE Phablet MTK6752 64bit 1.7GHz Octa Core 16GB ROM 13.0MP Camera

The camera isn't bad on the Huawei, it's the screen that's the problem. It's dull and washed out with poor peak brightness levels (difficult to use outdoors).

The J5 camera isn't awful, it's just not as good as the other phones with 13MP sensors.

Every phone at this price is somewhat compromised.

i'm thinking of getting one to try and probably taking it back because the guys on CPW are really pushing it. but the numbers aren't good:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9435/the-huawei-p8-lite-review/6


small unremovable battery, inefficient chipset (?) and slow charge time.
edit: actually it's considerably more powerful chipset, probably why battery life is worse also. depends what you want, i NEED battery life. this and the screen mean if you stay indoors, P8lite is probably a great phone (no offense meant).

I'm really hesitant about phones with 8gb memory. Yes a lot of the apps etc can be moved onto sd card but some cant and taking software/updates into account you're not left with much.

Honestly its really annoying that manufacturers are making us pay a premium for phones with a bit more internal memory (thanks for starting this trend apple!) Memory prices are so low these days- 32gb micro sd costs like £7-8...

I ordered this yesterday. I've had a very low opinion of CPW in the past, and I'm sure their stores still leave a lot to be desired..

However, the experience with their mail order department (via phone) was outstanding. I ordered at around 2pm yesterday, and the girl on the phone was hugely helpful and thorough. The phone arrived by 10.30am this morning. Top class all round. Nice one, CPW and keep it up.

I didnt but it still fits the bill I guess?

PLEASE ANSWER ME SOMEONE!!!

I have a GIFF GAFF sim. If I get one of these for £99 for example with the £10 EE Pay As You Go Sim. Can I just throw away that EE sim card and put in my GIFF GAFF one?

It's just a Sim Free version of the J5 on here is £169.99?

I am still using a Galaxy S2, I am stuck in the past, so go easy on my if this is a dumb question.

Awesome, probably gonna buy it in a couple of months.

3rd gen moto g 89£ sucks

Read the specs. The £89 has only 1gb ram and the same old specs from 2013

Thank-you. Do appreciate that. All ordered now! Thanks.

You're right, I see the Fonze in your profile picture and think 'Would the Fonze have got all shouty like that?' and I think for a bit and the answer is probably not. He'd have been a cool guy and not shouted.

Sorry folks and thanks a lot and always be mindful of what the Fonze would do.

This may be the best thing I read all day. Bon weekend, Monsieur/Madam!

mate, you might be going a little far. your phone has basically the same specs. same chipset, bit slower, more ram. which is better or worse comes down to other features and what user needs (sensors, waterproofing etc.)

saying the other option "sucks" when it's in fact a very successful competitor, isn't very Fonze.

Well over the past ~20 years of mobile phone ownership ive never dropped my phone down a toilet or into a puddle or decided its a good idea to shower with it... Whereas a removable battery has come in handy many times.

To be fair its hard to go wrong these days with a cheap android phone, they're all reasonably decent but some are better than others. Moto G is a good phone, the J5 is a better phone.

​I've just bought a J5 for my son with the intention of him using his existing sim.
The cheapest option was buying it with an O2 £10 bundle. Is there any way I can convert that bundle to actual credit as you can with EE?
He can then buy some apps too.
Thanks

has any one hot this deal and is it unlocked???

great if you can get a PAYG upgrade ... but from experience that can be difficult even if you meet all the stated requirements ... and they say my son doesn't qualify at the moment even though he had a Vodafone PAYG for a couple of years with to ups every could of months - so buying from Vodafone at £99 using existing SIM looks to be a better deal.

any nice casing?

just as i want to get another one for my mum, the deal expired ::disappointed:

Yes I've rooted and flashed a new OS to it. And I always leave a few GB free on both the internal and micro-sd storage. Yes they m.ay be similar specs but I bet the J5 Uses the CPU/RAM/whatever more efficiently as it's a new set of equipment

does anybody know if this is a clean version of lollipop or whether it has loads of 'bloatware'?