The newest Raspberry Pi 3, released today. Main difference is it has built in WiFi and Bluetooth, plus a 1.2ghz 64bit quad core CPU. CPC should be free delivery over £5.
To pre-empt moaners (as if!):
a) I realise this isn't on 'special offer', the deal you get here is to buy it at what appears to be the cheapest price before it sells out like old versions have.
b) Yes, there's two other posts already with it at a slightly dearer price. Had there only been one, I may have just posted it there.
inc free delivery
- Youngy
Top comments
bladeflyer
29 Feb 1664#88
Why didn't they call this version the pi 3.14?? :stuck_out_tongue:
captainbeaky to amyp88
29 Feb 1628#141
Sit next to the Tassimo machine & the Chromecast on the HUKD special shelf.
brilly to Szabster
29 Feb 1620#19
stevenprior1
29 Feb 1613#2
did you not read the ops post.
Latest comments (313)
mikerr
28 Mar 16#313
Well large letter is £0.95, small parcel is £3.30 - so no wonder !
MrHot
20 Mar 16#312
iirc the google DNS will stop responding to pings at some point.
I'm using tvaddons, I've installed previously on an Rpi but currently have it on a Firestick. In fact a few months back there was a great thread on here with tonnes of info about tvaddons but I think the Firestick deal expired or was marked as spam or something as it disappeared. The main addons I use within this is Genesis/Exodus (for films and tv), NaviX (for films) and Phoenix (for music channels.
I've never successfully managed to get any UK sport channels to work properly. Football often will stream but with awful quality. Sky F1 never seems to work (I know out of the season at the mo but during the last season and during races even then).
BustyB293
10 Mar 16#308
Ok I have never used Kodi and wanted to try it on a Windows laptop first, (as one of the posters said to try) quite a fast learning curve adding stuff and hoping it works.
I would like to have seen USB3 but I expect we will see that in the next upgrade.
formsm2000comp
5 Mar 16#301
Having real trouble trying to get Acestream working on the pi3. In terms of football streaming quality you have Flash -> Kodi apps -> Acestream / Sopcast.
Tried Rasbian and OSMC so far. Problem is on wiki says download for Ubuntu 14 and Debian 7. Rasbian uses Debian 8. Ubuntu mate uses Ubuntu 15. The Plexus app doesn't have the relevant advanced options for buffer control to make it usable on Kodi. The OS needs a web browser to find Ace links.
Source code is below if anyone can help? Acestream Source Code
MadeInBeats to formsm2000comp
6 Mar 16#304
Isn't Plexus used instead? Check it out... I don't know about OSMC but apparently it detects OpenElec and installs required dependencies there.
Edit... I loaded an HD AceStream stream into OpenElec and Plexus add-on popped a message up saying it needs to install some extras... clicked OK and stream is playing like an absolute champ. I installed The Beast 1.4 btw so certain things may have already be configured.
MrFizzy
4 Mar 16#291
Can anybody who got one from CPC say whether it arrived in a proper Raspberry Pi retail box please? I got one from the pi Hut and it just came in an antistatic bag inside a thin cardboard mailing sleeve. Thanks
joolt to MrFizzy
4 Mar 16#293
That's a bit sneaky of them - am presuming they were trying to skimp on postage by sending as a large letter instead of a parcel...not great if you want the box for resale at some point
Babbler to MrFizzy
5 Mar 16#303
Got mine today from pi Hut and it was in the rs retail box... So you might want to contact them. Admittedly I bought the multimedia kit so all kit in a box.
donerkebab
5 Mar 16#302
Files were all dated 16/9/2015 - tried replacing the files same issue. No start_db.elf present but same with or without. Wiped and did fresh berryboot install and is fine- dont like fact cant add new OS afterward.
MadeInBeats
5 Mar 16#300
Not yet, I'm waiting for a new SD card and will put BeryBoot on it to test another 4 or so OSs out. Rasbian I suppose is best for programming and such.
MadeInBeats
5 Mar 16#298
One thing that's really cool is that Kodi works with Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) on my Samsung TV, right out of the box! So I can use my TV remote to navigate Kodi... Awesome! Just a shame there's a few glitches with Kodi on Raspbian.
mikebuzz to MadeInBeats
5 Mar 16#299
You tried OpenELEC?
Ashe
5 Mar 16#297
It's worth pointing out that, for example, the photo mikebuzz posted has element14 (one of CPC's sister companies/brands) printed on the box, and there's also an RS box out there which is completely different - this would suggest there's not a 'proper' retail box as such, and it's up to the companies selling it to box it if they want to. I do agree that a box is preferable though.
MrFizzy
4 Mar 16#296
Thanks joolt. Yes that was my feeling but just wanted to check. Some may think it odd, but I'd rather get it in the original box. Pi Hut say they will take it back but will need to fully test it before they will give a refund. Well, hello, if it doesn't work maybe that's down to your packaging!
mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#292
Came just like this
MrFizzy to mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#295
Thanks mikebuzz. I think Pi Hut were trying to do it on the cheap despite charging for P+P.
jacksonliam
4 Mar 16#294
Mine from modmypi came in an RS retail box but all my other Pis have come in plain white boxes. Also retail box didn't go through the letter box so had to go pick it up the next day which was annoying!
Not sure why you'd need a non-white box?
mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#289
Whats with the strange tracking numbers that CPC is using, dont seem to have any tracking details, how has everyones been delivered? RoyalMail right?
joolt to mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#290
I ordered 2 on Monday (2 separate orders) - 1 arrived Wednesday and 1 today, both had apparently been posted on Monday via Royal Mail 48 but there was no tracking or signature required
donerkebab
4 Mar 16#288
Dunno like I say I formatted and put on new NOOBS which works fine. Made a backup of old SDcard so will check file at home.
its gonna be one of these which is causing the issue, what is the date of the start_cd.elf file on the sd card at the moment
donerkebab
4 Mar 16#284
Quad booting - so it should go to berryboot menu to which OS you want to start so its even before the Openelec configs....but like I say just get rainbow screen with square in top right corner.
MadeInBeats
4 Mar 161#282
Visiting via my Pi and Chromium browser :laughing:
preecey to MadeInBeats
4 Mar 16#283
How do you find the browsing performance? Manageable?
mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#281
Are you dual booting or just have Openelec?
donerkebab
4 Mar 16#280
Any ideas how to sort berry boot - I imagine updating Openelec would not sort why its not even booting to Berryboot menu. I did try playing around with the config.txt but no joy
androoski
4 Mar 16#279
I'm running a Pi 3 with the same old PSU I used with the Pi2, and have no problem with power. I think with much of these problems it's not a problem with actual current that can be drawn, but the quality and stability of the supply and its ability to respond when a surge in current is required.
Shorter, better quality USB cables (read thicker cables normally) will help.
I've found that the best power supply to power my Pis is the one supplied with the Tesco Hudl.
androoski
4 Mar 16#278
That would be a waste of a Pi 3, the Pi1 could do that job perfectly well (that's what I use).
For the actual hashing the Pi3 would be useless, as would any computer, even an I7 with the best GPU card.
The Pi is only good as the controller running the interace software (like CGMiner) the actual hashing will need to be done by an external hardware ASIC device like AntMiner etc. Otherwise with a Pi3 on its own you'll run for 2 years and make about 2p worth of bitcoin.
mikebuzz
4 Mar 16#277
Openelec 6.0.3 works fine on the rpi3. Just make sure you update to this version before moving the SD card from rpi2 to rpi3
nrushforth
3 Mar 16#276
Hi. Mine arrived today. Had same issue with OpenElec. Took card out of PI2 and tried in PI3 with no success. PI2 was running version 5.0.6.
Downloaded 6.0.3 and restored to same sd card and got it working ok.
donerkebab
3 Mar 16#275
If its intermittent then power supply is under powered - mine still booted and worked well in OSMC - mouse and usb key also powered. Forums mentions risk of shutdown = > corruption of data on SDcard if under powered
Rainbow square in top right hand corner is power issue
red square can be not able to find kernel image on SD card
are you using a new image on the SD card?
donerkebab to mikebuzz
3 Mar 16#273
OK gave up wiped and reinstalled latest Noobs - so power issue but still works with my 2.0 A USB supply.:neutral_face:
Shame no OpenElec but I will have a play with the win10 IOT core and OSMC then decide if go back to Berry boot.
badgerpelt to mikebuzz
3 Mar 16#274
If this is a question for me, mine is a newly written card which has booted. The rainbow square is now intermittent, even with a wireless keyboard in one of the usb ports. It is switched off now and I won't be fiddling until I can try a different plug in the morning.
badgerpelt
3 Mar 16#271
Well that is what it used to mean on the pi 2, so I assume that is what it still means.
Even with good quality plugs I used to get it popping up if I used more than 2 usb ports on my pi2, I ended up connecting a powered usb hub and the issue stopped.
leaston
3 Mar 16#270
Yes. You need 2.5A to properly power the 3
badgerpelt
3 Mar 16#267
Got the new souped up plug with mine...just plugged in the new pi with nothing in the usb port and lo and behold, the little square indicating a lack of juice popped up straight away.
Not impressed.
donerkebab to badgerpelt
3 Mar 16#269
So the square in top right on the rainbow screen is not enough power rather than my Pi2 SDcard not booting?
MadeInBeats
3 Mar 161#268
Download MagPi Magazine 43 where they talk about the Pi 3 - it's free to download
Mine came today- card from pi 2 does not boot how do I run these commands without any command line?
MadeInBeats
3 Mar 16#261
Rii isn't BT. You'll have to look some up on Amazon but they would be equally as cheap. The Rii 2.4Ghz should work on almost anything including a PS4 (if the PS4 works with generic USB keyboards)
rev6
3 Mar 16#260
Where from?
donerkebab
3 Mar 16#259
Is the Rii keyboard bluetooth - doesnt make sense to waste usb port/extra power etc.... also will this be compatible with PS4 and other devices?
donerkebab
3 Mar 16#258
Thanks I have asked CEX support but still no response - hope they dont try no cables accessories route to drop the price....
nervejam
3 Mar 16#257
I've heard somewhere that there will be an Android version for the Pi 3..
MadeInBeats
3 Mar 16#256
Overpriced. Don't you have the extras lying about ? HDMI leads, ethernet leads are £1 in pound shops. If you're only using it for Kodi, you only need a 8GB micro SD card... around £5 for a class 10. Heat sinks 99p off eBay. Case £3-£5 off eBay. You may have a micro USB lead and charger to power it but with the Pi 3 being more powerful it will have to be something like a quick charging cable.
Oh, and the remote... you can get the Rii keyboard remote for £10 or less depending if you want it rechargeable or not.
brilly
3 Mar 16#255
that 24quid was voucher though wasn't it? was 20cash at start of the thread so only dropped 2
they give the price its at when you say you want to sell as long as they get it within the time frame they state
HereKittyKitty
3 Mar 16#254
Yeah, I figured as much. I told him to shove it (as politely as possible) and I'll probably just keep it as a backup or something
formsm2000comp
2 Mar 16#253
Would you guys get something like this or set it up using your own equipment? OMBC Starter Kit
It's £70 for the Pi and other stuff.
Cheaper to get the stuff seperately?
Noticed its under £30 on there for the Pi but its OOS.
sotomonkey
2 Mar 16#250
Also regarding the Pine 64, it's interesting that the Pi 3 has just been released and so close to the pi 2. It sounds as though the Pi Foundation may have developed it precisely because of the threat posed by the Pine 64.
mikebuzz to sotomonkey
2 Mar 161#252
Personally i like the look of the ODROID C2, also know that work is being done to port OpenELEC to it
I sent mine back to CEX to sell at £24- when the price drops do they ask or just give you the lower amount?
No mine only came in a box - no cables at all
sotomonkey
2 Mar 16#248
That's pretty bad, definitely worth boycotting them over that if true.
boychicken
2 Mar 16#242
Heat added & bought one. Simple reasons, been running Kodi on OpenElec for a couple of years now on Pi Model B+ overclocked to 1Ghz and can't fault it. Rock solid performance and the £30'ish I spent in total for the Pi, case, charger & SD card is about as cheap as it gets. So just going to swap it out for the Pi3 and thought sod it I'll treat myself. These are great little devices.
peterpickles to boychicken
2 Mar 16#247
Well worth it you should notice a big difference in speed to the B+. I stepped up to an overclocked RPi2 and it is so much more usable. This one should be even better, you can not go wrong for 30 quid...
mikebuzz
2 Mar 16#246
OpenELEC or OSMC on a RPi is a lot better than Kodi on android, also the pine 64 uses a Allwinner chip
It depends if you need other applications that only run on android.
rev6
2 Mar 16#244
OpenELEC is usually better.
pibpob
2 Mar 16#243
I'd consider Android to be an infection if not actually needed!
sotomonkey
2 Mar 16#241
Although the Pine64 isn't out yet it has an android build, something the pi people generally don't have an interest in. To be honest, if you want Kodj and other stuff, you're better off using android so the Pine64 would be a better choice.
sotomonkey
2 Mar 16#235
I'll be honest I have several raspberry pis and although I love the concept and how they get people into programming in all honesty the Pine 64 is better value really. Just not sure how well some Linux distros will run on it but it's almost in a different league to be honest.
MadeInBeats to sotomonkey
2 Mar 16#237
How much and where from?
mikebuzz to sotomonkey
2 Mar 161#239
Depends what you want to do with it, if your wanting Kodi, then go RPi3
3guesses
2 Mar 16#238
Thanks pibpob. Do you happen to know which RDBMSes are available for the Pi?
After reading this I decided to get a 32GB Samsung Evo Plus -- I'll use it with Berry Boot and load 4 OSs on it. Cheapest was £9.84 on Amazon.
Base are selling the SanDisk Extreme for £11.99 but the extra write speed (but worse 4K R/W speeds !?!) didn't seem worth the extra.
MarcoLoves360
2 Mar 16#232
i would like to build a gameboy with this but i have no idea where to get all the parts i need
PAULTRD to MarcoLoves360
2 Mar 16#233
Just buy a gameboy!
HereKittyKitty
2 Mar 16#228
Pi 2 cash trade-in price at CEX has dropped to £18
I went to sell mine today but they wouldn't give me full price for it because it didn't have an ethernet cable... but I don't remember it even coming with an ethernet cable, and when I tried to stuff a small ethernet cable into the box it wouldn't fit. Does anyone know what the supposed ethernet cable looks like? (length, colour, etc (yes, I know what an ethernet cable looks like))
myghost to HereKittyKitty
2 Mar 161#229
I'm suprised they didn't ask for your HDMI cable, power supply and usb antenna as well :smiley:
nige182 to HereKittyKitty
2 Mar 162#231
It never came with an ethernet cable, probably staff pulling a fast one.
zulm
29 Feb 16#34
Any recommendations for micro-SD cards for use with pi3?
7iain7 to zulm
2 Mar 161#230
If you just want to use for Kodi the are Plenty of sellers on ebay. Who sell cards that cheap with Kodi already installed with all the film add ons it hardly worth bothering doing it yourself.
bladeflyer
29 Feb 1664#88
Why didn't they call this version the pi 3.14?? :stuck_out_tongue:
gaelforce to bladeflyer
29 Feb 161#90
Wishing I could issue more than one like for that post!
AlfMac to bladeflyer
1 Mar 16#226
And the price is wrong too... it should have been £31.41 (or £31.42 is they wanted to round it up)
marky489
1 Mar 16#225
Sweet thanks!
marky489
1 Mar 16#224
Review here - seems pretty good think I'll upgrade at some point. Should run dreamcast games & n64 better as well as kodi! http://buff.ly/1LqbyYa
poopscoop
1 Mar 16#223
Yeah not hard with what's on the info on the Web these days. Most should be able to do the same.
blaser
1 Mar 161#222
It was a mobile dongle for data, off the shelf they all had an internal aerial with an additional socket for external antenna i.e. those tiny U.FL connectors. At the time you could buy the dongles for a tenner, whereas a dedicated module could cost 10x as much and the former worked a charm with linux embedded systems virtually plug and play, not so with the latter.
PAULTRD
1 Mar 161#221
Its the exact same percentage as Domestos!!! Its a conspiracy I tell yeeeee
pibpob
1 Mar 161#220
No - like germs, it's 99.9%.
PAULTRD
1 Mar 16#219
Are you sure its not 99.8%?
biggysilly
1 Mar 162#212
You do need a TV licence to watch live TV whatever the device is though. :man:
badgerpelt to biggysilly
1 Mar 16#218
I'm sure everyone on HDUK are keeping things legal and above board(_;)
kibrisli7
1 Mar 16#217
Bargain for what now is a decent budget pc. Great for kodi too
spirogiro
1 Mar 16#216
I am keeping an eye out on these cos I want to use the Cosmos EX card piggybacked on the Pi for the ATARI ST which replaces the ATARI HDD, Floppy Drive and Network card etc and add Wifi and other functionality to your ST - all in the space of the internal floppy. This means you can then use cheap SD cards to give numerous HDD capacities and blinding speed file access and booting. Notwithstanding all your old ATARI games and apps instantly available at a click. Why do I still have an ATARI ST? Well I was an early MIDI adopter and it is still the best machine for MIDI in the studio... I have a 4Mb ST And yes - I have even been on the internet with my ST!
AndiTails
1 Mar 16#215
Thanks!
Read the post above :wink:
phpandsql
1 Mar 16#214
Really like your application! Do you use powerswitch tail or something else to control the router's power?
AndiTails
1 Mar 161#213
Not WiFi, but 433Mhz radio..
Using this kit, I wrote this script which runs every 10 minutes via crontab. Then I have two C programs called "on" and "off" which remotely control the sockets. I ended up having to write them in C instead of Python as I was sent this board instead of the python-controllable one you get in the above kit.
I'm using DietPi as my OS image on my Pi, for lightweight-ness and speed (it's only a Pi 1).
biggysilly
1 Mar 162#211
I have to agree. I shouldn't comment on here on ironing night I always partake too much rioja and plough through the ironing till the early hours. I'm afraid I can't elaborate on my comment as I don't understand it either!
pibpob
1 Mar 161#210
Fascinating that I'm also switching the Superhub, but to save power at night - instead of pinging something on the internet, between certain hours it pings a list of known internal hosts and switches off if none of them respond.
pibpob
1 Mar 16#209
I switch my Superhub and other things off at night to save power, rather than reset them. I use a bistable relay driven from two GPIO logic lines via a full bridge driver chip (normally used for motors). The bistable relay saves power and also, because the contacts are pulled apart by an electromagnet rather than relying on a spring, they are less likely to weld together. Wall-wart power supplies can have a very high inrush current so you will need a relay which is much beefier than you think.
pibpob
1 Mar 16#208
Indeed - which is precisely why they are often supplied with double-headed USB leads. Err!
badgerpelt
1 Mar 161#207
Mostly
You don't seem to be able to process what I wrote...
What does having a TV licence have to do with most of the sort of live streaming being delivered via kodi?
Errr a usb portable drive (ie 2.5" drive) shouldn't be pulling more than 500mAh otherwise you'd end up needing this double headed usb leads on a "standard" usb port
northwales
29 Feb 161#7
nice, but awful for any project's encased in a metal case.
kester76 to northwales
29 Feb 16#16
I'd say they will probably mod the pi 3 for an external antenna.
pibpob to northwales
29 Feb 16#27
Good point. Most projects aren't, but worth bearing in mind. Worth repeating. Depends whether you can comply with the Distance Selling Regulations - and you may have to pay the postage. 500mA - it's not a battery. :smiley: It's got more functionality so not surprising it consumes more. A USB HD/DVD can consume more than 500mA on its own.
blaser to northwales
29 Feb 161#127
I used to work on an embedded system product that was enclosed in a metal case with an external aerial for UHF radio communications. I got curious in the lab one day so decided to see what happened if I removed the external aerial, so I was just using the one encased in the box, what I found was it just used the metal box as a huge antenna. Not sure how the science behind that works, but interesting result nonetheless.
Rich44 to northwales
1 Mar 16#205
Who puts them in metal cases? 99.9% of cases are plastic. I suppose in an EMI rich environment you'd want a metal case but then again you wouldn't be relying on WiFi in that environment either.
PIXeL_92
1 Mar 16#204
Got a few of these at 8.30 yesterday morning seeing as I work about a 5 minute walk from CPC. Been playing around with them and I have to say a definite improvement, with the Wi-Fi and BT being built in it has a smaller foot print to when it comes to selecting a project box etc.
amyp88
1 Mar 161#203
*Purchased*
MadeInBeats
1 Mar 16#202
A white hole?
PaulTheYid
1 Mar 16#199
Right, have decided i want to build a media centre. Have just been looking at Kodi, can anyone tell me if i can run that [Kodi] and use IE (to use SkyGo)?
I have a legit SkyGo account, so not looking for streams instead...
I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
hacksawbob
1 Mar 16#198
Hi could you let me know how you do the power cycle? is it a physical relay on the power supply that is wifi controlled by any chance?
soton26
1 Mar 16#197
Not when you add delivery.
pig_dog
1 Mar 161#196
Actually if used on its own with no devices connected it only uses 750mA under full load!
iibdii
1 Mar 16#195
until today I had no clue what that was
and my first computer was commodore 64
kristoff1875
29 Feb 16#5
Oh... Well that's annoying as I've not long purchased a Pi 2! In a few months time I'm going to own 3 Raspberry Pi's! Will have to use my Pi 1 as a dog feeder or something!
marra to kristoff1875
29 Feb 16#25
I bought my pi2 last week lol no doubt I'll have one of these for the price of them I don't mind too much and I can use a few in projects and not worry about being with out, heat added.
tan159 to kristoff1875
1 Mar 16#194
Duh. Did you not know there was a new RPI coming out. They even had a countdown to Pi Zero.
dereklogan7
1 Mar 16#193
:confused:
skykid3
1 Mar 161#192
biggysilly
1 Mar 16#191
Yes don't stream live TV in the UK through your antenna or through the interweb, It's illegal. Unless of course you have a TV licence. I am of course being sarcastic about Badgerculls comment.:man:
SL7
29 Feb 161#1
Does the Pi2 not also have build in wifi and bluetooth?
corred1964 to SL7
29 Feb 16#6
No the pi2 requires wifi & bluetooth USB donges wasting two USB ports
l3w15g to SL7
29 Feb 16#40
no.i had to buy dongles for my pi2
Abstroose to SL7
29 Feb 16#44
Nope.
biggysilly to SL7
1 Mar 16#190
Correct, the Pi2 does not also have build in Wifi and Bluetooth
mattybadboy44
1 Mar 16#189
Does the HDMI support 4K?
ap1992
1 Mar 16#188
Just bought 3!!!
BustyB293
29 Feb 16#182
I've been told that you can get most of the 3 o'clock football on these with Kodi..... What the stream quality like via HDMI ? Is the setup easy?
badgerpelt to BustyB293
1 Mar 16#187
Why not set up kodi on your computer and make your own mind up? No one here can speak with any real knowledge about your internet speed.
By the way, as far as I am aware streaming live TV is (mostly) against the law in the UK so expect any stream via kodi to have a delay on it.
pibpob
29 Feb 16#186
I would guess that the signal level dropped dramatically, but as what it was partnered with was very close by, it was still able to communicate. Also slightly confused as to why it had an internal aerial as well as an external one.
Since when did this website change to HotUKThingsYouCanBuyAtTheirNormalPrice.co.uk?
BigDave to Halloway
29 Feb 164#78
Bore off
GNKelly07 to Halloway
29 Feb 16#180
Contributes so little. Whinges so much.................
treeofthefiddy
29 Feb 16#179
Except there is.
Dealmessiah
29 Feb 16#178
Not with Paypal there isn't.....
rev6
29 Feb 16#177
I see. Quite low then. Thanks.
jacksonliam
29 Feb 161#176
Yes you can swap a working SD card between all Pis. The SD image contains a kernel for armv6 (Pi 1 and zero) and for armv7 (Pi 2/3). The Pi2 and Pi3 share a kernel because the Pi3 is only running in 32bit mode at the moment. They may do software updates to make more use of the 64bit instruction set where it will help performance, but you get a performance boost in 32 bit mode anyway due to the faster cores.
You'll need to run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' on an existing Pi SD card to pull down the newer packages for Pi3 support. SD cards made from the most recent images on raspberrypi.org should work with the Pi3 out of the box.
TwentyTwo
29 Feb 16#175
Was excited to see a new Pi, but it still has the same GPU....
An mk808b plus is cheaper and still better then the Pi's for pretty much everything mainstream (video, emulation ect) including h265 - disappointing.
OrribleHarry
29 Feb 16#174
OOS but there are over 15,000 in stock at RS for £32.10 with free next day delivery.
Its a shame that in the US it's only $35... :disappointed: But hot for the price in the UK! :smiley:
Jimmyboy to h41d3r96
29 Feb 16#168
The ex vat price is £26.38 and the US one will likely have sales tax to add (admittedly not likely as much as 20%). Currently $35 is about £25.13 so they're almost the same price excluding taxes.
David23
29 Feb 16#167
Good to hear the murmurs about official Android support for the Pi 3. I will finally buy my first Pi when that happens.
alexanderthenotsogreat
29 Feb 161#149
Don't expect decent Wi-Fi from these. They're built cheap for a reason
Meredith2k5 to alexanderthenotsogreat
29 Feb 16#158
So are the cheap mini usb dongles that everyone buys for the 2, hence why its included. I don't understand why this would put you off? You have more open usb slots essentially, your never gonna get great range without a larger dongle or build factor which kind of defeats the point of the pi
nervejam to alexanderthenotsogreat
29 Feb 161#166
The Pi 3 was only released today. You don't have one yet, so how can you know anything about it's wifi performance or build quality.?
welshblob
29 Feb 16#165
Bitrates obtained from mediainfo;
File1 720p 555 Kbps - Plays mostly ok apart from very detailed panning shots
File2 720p 1198 Kbps - Started poorly on some graphics but the 1 min of live action i watched was ok
File3 1080p 2329 Kbps - Jerky
File4 720p ??? mediainfo not showing bitrate - Plays very well
kishorejames
29 Feb 16#144
I hooked up an old laptop to my tele, so that I can browse Internet, watch YouTube kodi etc.. Why should I consider pi3 over that setup? (Apart from power saving). I heard of pi before but haven't got a clue of what it is capable of.
rev6 to kishorejames
29 Feb 16#146
If you have to ask then you don't need it. It has many uses but it's quite popular for a headless server, or media playback (decent GPU for it).
poopscoop to kishorejames
29 Feb 16#161
You don't need one then
Meredith2k5 to kishorejames
29 Feb 16#164
Smaller form factor and easier to tuck away somewhere, probably a little slower than your laptop, less power draw, you can use it for dedicated projects like minecraft servers or 3ds relays.
This got me thinking though, would it be possible to essentially make a steam link with this?? Has anyone tried it? Very disappointed with my link so far and I cant imagine a pi being any worse.
LnDCobra
29 Feb 161#163
This literally made me LMAO
DDTLFC
29 Feb 16#122
Can I learn to code using one of these? If so, how?
_g_ to DDTLFC
29 Feb 16#124
Again; Yes; but if you've got a normal computer, makes more sense to start with that.
A1RN to DDTLFC
29 Feb 16#126
Code what? You need to have an idea of what you actually want to learn/make. There are hundreds of different coding languages.
Meredith2k5 to DDTLFC
29 Feb 161#160
2 responses I got earlier are spot on. Did a bit of research and your best of choosing a language to start with, then learn on your current setup (I'm currently using Lynda.com). Once your confident its possible to do fun side projects with the pi, but by no means is it essential or beneficial. Ive decided to get one anyway :laughing:
rev6
29 Feb 16#159
The bitrates of these H.265 video files?
welshblob
29 Feb 16#157
I've been doing some testing as well on my Pi2 with OSMC installed. Initially it wasn't very good but I tried the kodi 17 alpha builds and that appears to improve things a lot. It not perfect but I have watched a few 720p things all the way through with some glitching at times - mainly panning with trees/detailed city scapes etc. It will come down to bitrates though. The latest Kodi 16 plays it better than it did but not quite as well as 17 ... although the difference could be my imagination.
Re bay trail, I was pleasantly surprised that my hudl2, which i believe has a bay trail proc in it, didn't bat an eye lid at both 720p snf 1080p x265 content which played flawlessly. Even the 2015 kindle 7 plays x265 ok.
Sid80
29 Feb 162#156
Ubuntu MATE has released 15.10 for the Pi 3. The integrated Bluetooth isn't working but they are going to release an update soon to fix that.
BlockABoots
29 Feb 16#154
So have these sold out, as it say 'Awaiting Delivery' or is this for pre-orders?
joolt to BlockABoots
29 Feb 16#155
There 've sold out of the ones they had in stock today (about 2500 when I bought mine this morning), they've got a large delivery due 9th Mar so you can still order but will have to wait till then
dansax
29 Feb 16#153
Or OSMC, which is the spiritual successor to RaspBMC
neilwad
29 Feb 16#150
Would these be relatively easy to turn into a streaming / movie device. I've seem them on Amazon for £40-50 and wondered if this could be a cheaper option
rev6 to neilwad
29 Feb 16#151
I'd recommend a cheaper Android box with OpenELEC for Kodi.
bubblegum2910 to neilwad
29 Feb 16#152
yes install Openelec, which is a linux version of Kodi
MadeInBeats
29 Feb 16#148
Welllllllll, I may try a VPN if that's the cheapest :wink:
hugh1988
29 Feb 16#123
anyone know if it can play HD h.265 video? The Pi 2 couldn't.
davocc to hugh1988
29 Feb 16#125
I looked this up (reference my earlier post in this thread) - it appears that it doesn't have hardware support for this but that's only one site making the claim, I'm inclined to look for wider opinion on this. I do know that some devices that apparently have h.265 support won't easily support it; the Pine64 is one, the chipset they're using is produced by a firm who have a very poor reputation for helping open up drivers, etc. and I've read that the Kodi teams are not bothering to support hardware accelerated decoding on that chipset so it's not that easy to find out-of-the-box. Cherry Trail systems do have h.265 support in hardware so that may be a better option if you want a more flexible and future-proof set top player.
MadeInBeats to hugh1988
29 Feb 161#147
https://osmc.tv/2016/02/raspberry-pi-3-announced-with-osmc-support/
"The new quad core CPU will bring smoother GUI performance. There have also been recent improvements to H265 decoding. While not hardware accelerated on the Raspberry Pi, the new CPU will enable more H265 content to be played back on the Raspberry Pi than before."
They also recommend a heatsink. I got a cheap pure copper one off ebay for 99p
rev6
29 Feb 16#145
Does Cherry Trail do partial H.265 10bit?
kishorejames
29 Feb 16#143
I hooked up an old laptop to my tele, so that I can browse Internet, watch YouTube kodi etc.. Why should I consider pi3 over that setup? (Apart from power saving). I heard of pi before but haven't got a clue of what it is capable of.
davocc
29 Feb 16#142
I did some rudimentary testing for this on a Pi (b v. 1) and a Pi 2 - I couldn't achieve anything close to 720p but my tests weren't comprehensive to be fair. I was getting what appeared to be 1fps or less, my testing was only fairly basic though. I'd wager that given it needing to do this all in software it'd be unreliable at best, it won't be like the remarkable improvements that were achieved in the early days with >720p playback.
I did some more recent research on the Bay Trail vs Cherry Trail chipset playback for this very purpose (a mate of mine needed to handle h.265 consistently at 1080p) and I found that people were claiming the hardware support as found in Cherry Trail was utterly crucial; his little STB player is doing an admirable job in this regard.
Of course I'd be far happier if the Piv3 did h.265 decoding well, that'd be awfully nice!
amyp88
29 Feb 16#134
Sounds great. I want one. What does it do?
captainbeaky to amyp88
29 Feb 1628#141
Sit next to the Tassimo machine & the Chromecast on the HUKD special shelf.
I have a pi2 and a pi zero and will certainly be buying this
Im thinking of putting it in an arcade stick for some mame goodness
welshblob
29 Feb 161#132
The Videocore doesn't support the HEVC codec natively. The Pi2 should be able to decode 720p using the arm cores and sometimes up to 1080p but it all depends on bitrates and its a bit hot or miss. So I'd expect the Pi3 to be better at both of those but not 4k.
marcins
29 Feb 16#130
is that possible? today morning i see 21k on stock
Ashe to marcins
29 Feb 16#131
It says "21,600 will be available for delivery on Mar 9, 2016", not in stock. There were about 2000 in stock this morning.
joolt
29 Feb 16#129
and it's sold out!!!
hugh1988
29 Feb 16#128
Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the info! Was considering the Pine64.
joolt
29 Feb 16#121
thanks OP.....bought 1 this morning...just bought another as I have a friend who would probably appreciate it as a pressie.....CPC currently only 160 left in stock so will prob be sold out in next hour or 2
Codey88
29 Feb 161#117
cpc are out of the preloaded sd cards and cases but found them cheaper at PC World starting from £4.99 for the black case (which is £5.65 @ cpc) and micro SD cards starting from £5.98 for 16gb. You also get free delivery within 5 working days
Not gonna do it then; I stole the following quote from the internet:
nervejam
29 Feb 16#116
Do it NOW! The price WILL drop..
JoeSpur
29 Feb 16#115
How about arcade/MAME? NeoGeo? CPS2?
cawsmawr
29 Feb 161#114
mmmm.....Pie :P----
dansax
29 Feb 162#113
PS1 emulation on the Pi2 is actually excellent. Full speed is achievable in most games. Anything beyond PS1 is a bit of a struggle though, with N64 being especially patchy. I can't imagine this would have improved much with the Pi3, at best I expect it should improve PS1 emulation to the point that it can be safely described as "perfect."
I haven't experimented much but my understanding is that anything sub-PS1, i.e. SNES, megadrive etc runs perfectly on the Pi2.
dessala
29 Feb 16#112
I paid with paypal and got charged £2.50 for delivery. Strange.
AndiTails
29 Feb 161#111
In fact, they can't charge you anything, as PiHut is OOS...
jacksonliam
29 Feb 16#110
Yes it does. It adds it on after you come back from the PayPal portal.
Kev`
29 Feb 161#109
Click 'checkout with paypal', it doesn't charge postage.
AndiTails
29 Feb 16#108
It's not including P&P (which is £2.50) so don't worry - it's actually more expensive. Relax :smiley:
AndiTails
29 Feb 161#107
But that's plus £2.50 P&P so more expensive than this...
Neobrown
29 Feb 16#106
Whats the CPU benchmark on these? Need to now before I take the plunge
AndiTails
29 Feb 165#105
Using this kit, I wrote this script which runs every 10 minutes via crontab. Then I have two C programs called "on" and "off" which remotely control the sockets. I ended up having to write them in C instead of Python as I was sent this board instead of the python-controllable one you get in the above kit.
I'm using DietPi as my OS image on my Pi, for lightweight-ness and speed (it's only a Pi 1).
welshy81
29 Feb 161#104
no it doesn't, just better specs with the 2gb of ram I have a pi2 so I'll just use my wifi from that
Kev`
29 Feb 16#103
Damn, can't seem to cancel my CPC order now. :disappointed:
bob51
29 Feb 16#102
Because that wouldn't be accurate. 2*(2*2*4*4*6*6...)/(1*3*3*4*4*7*7...) . I'll take my hat on the way out.
Kev`
29 Feb 162#101
That doesn't seem to have built in Bluetooth or Wifi like the Pi3?
Finally decided to delve into the world of Pi although not sure what I'll do with it yet. Ordered. Thanks. :smiley:
Meredith2k5
29 Feb 16#98
Thanks for the reply, ive been looking for various little easy projects to try alongside reading and video tutorials rather than just reading up, sounds like the pi would be ideal for this alongside an Audino then! At the moment I'm just learning through a scriptable macro program called scar making automated programs for basic games, although its in pascal its an easy project to get my feet wet. I'm under the impression that despite the languages being different you can get a general feel of how coding works universally and interacts with itself.
Think I might just go for it and see what I can do with it when it arrives :smiley:
i'm still looking for a SNES cartridge to stick my Pi Zero in to make a retro console. they seem to have undergone somewhat of a resurgence in pricing on eBay and I only want a cheap-ass one :smiley:
AndiTails
29 Feb 16#95
The lack of Ethernet means no.
_g_
29 Feb 163#94
I haven't owned a pi; but I am a computer programmer; I'd say "no".
Many people seem to approach the Pi as as solution looking for a problem.
There are some good uses for it and some have used it to learn computing stuff; but usually things that could be learnt with existing computers.
There are many options for programming and you need to work out what avenue you'd be looking to explore.
A sensible start for a very 'easy' introduction is learning basic web site (html). http://www.w3schools.com/ is one decent resource; but I don't know how it compares to other options out there now.
LGShepherd
29 Feb 161#93
I did use a controller. I started with a USB NES controller then a wired 360 controller.
I've moved on to emulation on my Nvidia Shield now, so I can only imagine RetroPie has got better and it has a nice UI compared to other emulation apps such as RetroArch.
Kanedaaaaaa
29 Feb 16#83
What's the state of emulation on these now? I was looking at getting one for Retropie some time ago but opted for an original Xbox instead. I'd love to stick one of these in a little cabinet.
LGShepherd to Kanedaaaaaa
29 Feb 163#84
I've used a Pi (first and second gen) for emulation and it's been spot on. I haven't gone later than the Mega Drive and SNES, but everything worked great for me.
Meredith2k5 to Kanedaaaaaa
29 Feb 16#92
Id like to know this also, from what ive read slow emulation up to the ps1 is possible on the 2, id imagine it could run quite fluid with the new spec, hard to find any information on it though
Kanedaaaaaa
29 Feb 16#91
Cheers. Were you using a controller? Would I be right in thinking any USB PC pad should be configurable?
Meredith2k5
29 Feb 162#85
So many questions having never owned a pi!
Wanting to break into computer coding as a complete beginner, would this be a good option and where/how can I utilize it? Are options like a bitcoin miner, basic Linux system for browsing ebay and monitoring ebay or streetpass relay possible on this? What other possibilities do people use there's for?
Have done a bit of googling prior to this for the pi 2, seems to be lots of information but spread about.
I would really appreciate if anyone can link some good all in one resources for finding answers to our own questions about the pi or perhaps a community somewhere, there seems to be lots of questions on here and I'm sure the rest of the community would appreciate it also!
Here's a few ive found so far: 3 best starter projects (Linux, Emulation and Media Centre) FAQ from the official website Bitcoin Mining (None profitable, more of a fun project)
A1RN to Meredith2k5
29 Feb 162#89
If you want to beak into coding then getting a Pi would be great. You might want to build an embedded style system, in which case you might want into look into books or videos that specifically deal with hardware projects utilising the Pi, maybe connecting to an Arudino. There are also a lot of Python libraries that allow you to interact with sensors and such (Python generally considered one of the best beginner coding languages, depending on the route you want to take). Bitcoin mining is totally out of the question. To get good at coding you simply need to spend time designing apps and scripts from the ground up, obviously this isn't an overnight process. In reality though, you really don't need the Pi to learn to program, in that respect it would actually be a waste of money. Books, books and more books are the way to go. You can pretty much find ones covering any niche imaginable.
imran
29 Feb 16#87
Thanks for the heads up on pi-hole, looks aweasome going to give it a try.
How did you setup the Virgin SuperHub auto reboot, would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.
Thanks
5ingh
29 Feb 16#76
anyone know if this can be powered via a micro usb cable from the tv usb port?
mikebuzz to 5ingh
29 Feb 16#77
depends on the output from the tv, this needs 2 -2.5 amps
Jimmyboy to 5ingh
29 Feb 161#86
My Pi2 worked fine like that from the USB port of an AV receiver.
_g_
29 Feb 16#80
This a ODROID, or 'something else' at a similar price point for kodi?
What about for running a linux GUI with a browser and a sip softphone?
0BS1D1AN to _g_
29 Feb 161#82
ODroid C2 > RPi 3 > ODroid C1+
Not if they would be great for doing all those things. May want to look into gettinga NUC or (maybe not so attractive an option) you could but an Nvidia Shield tablet, root it, put linux on it, Bob's your uncle.
robinbowes
29 Feb 162#42
I just bought 5 x Pi2 last week. Bah!
uksparky to robinbowes
29 Feb 16#81
See if you can exchange them for 3.33 Pi3s?
matski_98
29 Feb 16#59
Don't forget you can sell your old Pi2 on CEX for £20 :smiley:
hcc27 to matski_98
29 Feb 16#79
Probably not for very long :0
hcc27
29 Feb 16#75
Thanks for sharing. Any chance you could post the script for the 'Pi-Hole'? Sounds very useful.
nervejam
29 Feb 16#73
"Suck it and see"
0BS1D1AN
29 Feb 162#45
Really can't see this being 50-60% faster than the Pi 2 in general use, maybe on paper but not in practicality. Definitely don't think this was as big a jump from a Pi 1 to a Pi 2 and it requires quite a lot of juice as well to run, especially when the A53 cores are low power. I wonder where all that extra juice is going.....
EDIT: Just realised its actually a quad core CPU and not a dual core, that makes things seem more likely now in terms of improvements in speed.
dansax to 0BS1D1AN
29 Feb 163#65
The Pi2 was quad core as well, but this doesn't make the 50-60% improvement claims any less realistic. The CPU architecture has been updated and there's a direct increase in clock rate from 900MHz to 1.2GHz. The bump in clock rate alone is enough for a very tangible 33% performance increase which should show across the board in things like Kodi, RetroPie etc. What seems to be under-reported on the net is the fact that there's also been a minor bump in the GPU clock rate from 250 to 400 in 2D and 300 in 3D (I think that's correct, could be slightly off).
Thanks for the link, I see your point but again these are all synthetic benchmarks and are unlikely to translate near as well in real-world performance. I can understand improvements though to things like RetroPie as that's much more dependent on just GPU operation or maybe using a browser but any other operations like using Kodi, I can't see it helping as that will be limited by connection speed and the confluence UI is already very light so can be handled by the Pi 2.
Just make sure its updated before moving the SD, the Pi 3 will still be using 32bit code, so a card that works in Pi2 will work in Pi3
if using OpenElec make sure you upgrade to 6.0.2 with have the wifi and bluetooth drivers included
dansax
29 Feb 16#68
I'm 90% sure that as long as you update OpenElec to the latest version using your PI2, you should be able to just switch the SD cards from one to the other. The 32/64 bit distinction shouldn't matter, as I believe the software will be 32 bit regardless.
It isn't the same as the bump from Pi1 to Pi2 as they used very different architectures.
Peter9588
29 Feb 16#67
Openelec seems to recommend the same build for Rpi2 and Rpi3. Surely that suggests the builds are compatible with both?
donerkebab
29 Feb 16#66
So will it work or not? I actually don't mind rebuilding again but just be ease of upgrading :wink:
nervejam
29 Feb 16#64
Here's an idea for the misers among us (me) - The pi 3 release means that the pi 2 will be worth less.. if you don't need built-in wifi, and speed is not an issue, haggle on a pi 2..
retrogeezer
29 Feb 16#52
at the risk of sounding daft, what do these do? It says it's a small computer to teach kids programming?
nervejam to retrogeezer
29 Feb 161#63
It's a LOT more than that! It's a full computer, running a LINUX based operating system. For less than £30. Look up KODI for another common application.. built=in wifi will help with that, too..
Jimmyboy
29 Feb 16#62
Anybody set theirs up as a VPN using OpenVPN?
I've followed all the guides etc (almost all have typos in so you really need to be careful) and now have it set up but just can't connect any devices to it. I'm ready to give up but has anyone had any success?
Thanks
nervejam
29 Feb 161#61
The Pi 3 is 64-bit, not 32 - Pi Foundation advises you to use a later version of Raspbian or NOOBS.
davocc
29 Feb 161#60
The new model may need a while for the operating system to be optimised – Raspbian will need to support 64 bit operation and also support the new BT/802.11 configurations. I believe this is possible now but I’m not sure how mature the distro is (it may be functional but should improve quite a bit in a fairly short space of time).
Overall though – yet another stellar job from the Raspberry Pi foundation, the new additions are very welcome indeed.
nervejam
29 Feb 16#58
Not quite - the leds are now on the opposite side of the SD card socket.. I have a case with "light tubes" for the LEDs - which would now be on the wrong side :disappointed:
Peter9588
29 Feb 16#57
I have this exact question. Wondering whether I take the SD card out with Openelec on it and put it in the rpi3.
JoeSpur
29 Feb 16#56
Would a Pi Zero be sufficient for that Pi-Hole scenario?
Slim2k
29 Feb 16#39
Just ordered, perfect timing for a project I am working on with my Nest Thermostat. Especially with the BT, makes the unit nice and compact.
ak86uk to Slim2k
29 Feb 16#55
What are you planning on doing?
573310
29 Feb 16#54
Some good improvements, any ideas if there are any plans to provide PoE support for these? i.e. Powering the Pi over Ethernet?
AndiTails
29 Feb 166#53
Well, if you're btc mining, you'd be better off with a Pi 3 for that.
I have a few dotted around the house doing various geeky things.
My favourite is controlling the socket for my Virgin Media modem (well, the SuperHub in Modem Mode) by running internet connectivity checks every 10 minutes. If it can't connect to OpenDNS and Google DNS's (it pings them both 5 times), it kills the power to the modem for 10 seconds then turns it back on.
I shouldn't have to cycle the power on the SuperHub, but at least this makes it painless and automated.
Another great usage is as "Pi-Hole" where it blocks all adverts for any device on your network. That Pi just hangs off the back of my router, powered by the router's USB socket, and plugged into via a tiny 5cm RJ45 cable.. :smiley:
bomp306
29 Feb 16#51
Purchased at 10am this morning, that's 3 now!! Media player in two and light of on the other, :-)
beGG
29 Feb 16#50
ive got 3 x pi2 running (1 as a fan controller in my rig, 1 as a torrent box and 1 as a kodi) + pi mining btc. id love to buy another one but got no clue where to use it :smiley:
heat added.
Dealio Neilio
29 Feb 164#48
Half-Life 3 confirmed!
jewelie
29 Feb 16#47
Wow. It's only 1Gb of RAM (or even 0.5Gb of RAM) away from being a perfectly useable Linux desktop PC for basic office / web / email tasks really. :smiley: Heat.
hcc27
29 Feb 162#46
I think the incorporation of bluetooth and wifi is a response to the raft of other 'breadboard' type PCs that were coming out with these radios built in. This version certainly is more of a plug and play solution now.
The RRP is £27 but I don't think you can find it at that price anywhere.
Good find OP, and heated. CPC are a great company to deal with, imho, and I believe fully British to boot.
leaston
29 Feb 16#43
Fab, ordered. Heat!!! :smiley:
Mihir95
29 Feb 161#41
Ffs I bought pi2 2 weeks ago
Babbler
29 Feb 16#38
Got the kit for £52 from pihut...
eddieskyclad
29 Feb 16#35
Silly question. Do I need to buy a power supply too?
rev6 to eddieskyclad
29 Feb 16#37
Yes.
jayjayuk1234
29 Feb 16#33
wonder if this iteration of pi is able to pass/bitstream HD audio?
Just ordered with the CamJam breadboard kit. Hoping to get a more power efficient set up for when I just want to surf the web/YT/movies rather than using my i5 4670K rig :confused:
brilly
29 Feb 16#26
no idea, i did it the last time when rasp pi 2 came out - new 28 old 18
cant remember if had to fiddle though
brilly
29 Feb 162#23
cex give 20quid for the pi 2, so if were going to add wifi and bluetooth not a bad way to upgrade?
11.66 for the 2 and easy dump of the older pi?
price will surely drop in coming days anyway
donerkebab to brilly
29 Feb 16#24
is architecture exactly the same? ie swap the SDcard and it will run as before? I think there were issues going Pi to Pi2 otherwise this would be a no brainer for me.
peterpickles
29 Feb 16#22
Nice one. I did not know this was out yet, Only recently got the pi2 but might go for this as well. Once overclocked these little things make great media streamers.
Szabster
29 Feb 16#21
Yeah, I don't see a reason why the Pi itself would consume 500mah more in general than the previous one. Connect a USB Hard drive or DVD drive and not even that would be enough :smiley:
markystarky
29 Feb 16#15
Note: The Pi Hut are advising that the Pi3 needs a 2.5A power supply, so you might need to upgrade.
soton26 to markystarky
29 Feb 161#20
From raspberrypi.org
So only required if you intend on powering USB devices from the Pi.
Szabster
29 Feb 16#12
The Pi wars :smiley:
brilly to Szabster
29 Feb 1620#19
Chuggee
29 Feb 16#17
Or build one with LEGO :smile:
Twevor
29 Feb 161#13
Ordered and in stock, but the new case is on back order already, for end March !!
northwales to Twevor
29 Feb 161#14
same form factor as pi2, can use them
robklobb
29 Feb 16#8
I literally took delivery of my pi2 yesterday...Wonder if I can return it and but the new one.
j8te1 to robklobb
29 Feb 161#11
I Got mine 3 weeks ago and its gone back today.
Getting a pi3 now.
David23
29 Feb 16#10
Just checking, are these still made in the UK at Sony's factory in Wales?
robklobb
29 Feb 16#9
stevenprior1
29 Feb 1613#2
did you not read the ops post.
SL7 to stevenprior1
29 Feb 161#4
Yes, but I have a pi2 and there are options in the settings menu for wifi and possibly bluetooth (can't remember about this one).
Heat added anyway.
DevilzGtr
29 Feb 161#3
The new thread on the block... Heat added
How many threads need to be created until this pi3 is ~£25? :P
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To pre-empt moaners (as if!):
a) I realise this isn't on 'special offer', the deal you get here is to buy it at what appears to be the cheapest price before it sells out like old versions have.
b) Yes, there's two other posts already with it at a slightly dearer price. Had there only been one, I may have just posted it there.
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https://seo-michael.co.uk/how-to-install-zemtv-for-xbmc-kodi/
I've never successfully managed to get any UK sport channels to work properly. Football often will stream but with awful quality. Sky F1 never seems to work (I know out of the season at the mo but during the last season and during races even then).
I added TV Addons https://www.tvaddons.ag/install-addons-kodi/
It changed the look, it seems quite good, anyone use this? wanting it for football and movies.
Thanks,
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MySQL, MariaDB...
3g
Tried Rasbian and OSMC so far. Problem is on wiki says download for Ubuntu 14 and Debian 7. Rasbian uses Debian 8. Ubuntu mate uses Ubuntu 15. The Plexus app doesn't have the relevant advanced options for buffer control to make it usable on Kodi. The OS needs a web browser to find Ace links.
Source code is below if anyone can help?
Acestream Source Code
Edit... I loaded an HD AceStream stream into OpenElec and Plexus add-on popped a message up saying it needs to install some extras... clicked OK and stream is playing like an absolute champ. I installed The Beast 1.4 btw so certain things may have already be configured.
Came just like this
Not sure why you'd need a non-white box?
5" £15.49: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ePathChina%C2%AE-Security--resolution-Backlight-equipment/dp/B00CZ85YVU/
7" £21.95: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ePathChina%C2%AE-Camera-Monitor-Support-Rotating/dp/B007SLDF7O
Anyone know what the best way is to power these to use with the pi?
Or can anyone recommend another small screen solution for the pi?
https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
its gonna be one of these which is causing the issue, what is the date of the start_cd.elf file on the sd card at the moment
Shorter, better quality USB cables (read thicker cables normally) will help.
I've found that the best power supply to power my Pis is the one supplied with the Tesco Hudl.
For the actual hashing the Pi3 would be useless, as would any computer, even an I7 with the best GPU card.
The Pi is only good as the controller running the interace software (like CGMiner) the actual hashing will need to be done by an external hardware ASIC device like AntMiner etc. Otherwise with a Pi3 on its own you'll run for 2 years and make about 2p worth of bitcoin.
Downloaded 6.0.3 and restored to same sd card and got it working ok.
Official Pi forum for boot issues
red square can be not able to find kernel image on SD card
are you using a new image on the SD card?
Shame no OpenElec but I will have a play with the win10 IOT core and OSMC then decide if go back to Berry boot.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82373
Even with good quality plugs I used to get it popping up if I used more than 2 usb ports on my pi2, I ended up connecting a powered usb hub and the issue stopped.
Not impressed.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/issues/43/
Fresh install of berry boot or noobs then
If you're running openelec update using the normal methods to 6.0.3 http://openelec.tv/news/22-releases/175-release-openelec-6-0-2-released
Oh, and the remote... you can get the Rii keyboard remote for £10 or less depending if you want it rechargeable or not.
they give the price its at when you say you want to sell as long as they get it within the time frame they state
OMBC Starter Kit
It's £70 for the Pi and other stuff.
Cheaper to get the stuff seperately?
Noticed its under £30 on there for the Pi but its OOS.
http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php
No mine only came in a box - no cables at all
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Allwinner-Obfuscating-Code
3g
After reading this I decided to get a 32GB Samsung Evo Plus -- I'll use it with Berry Boot and load 4 OSs on it. Cheapest was £9.84 on Amazon.
Base are selling the SanDisk Extreme for £11.99 but the extra write speed (but worse 4K R/W speeds !?!) didn't seem worth the extra.
I went to sell mine today but they wouldn't give me full price for it because it didn't have an ethernet cable... but I don't remember it even coming with an ethernet cable, and when I tried to stuff a small ethernet cable into the box it wouldn't fit. Does anyone know what the supposed ethernet cable looks like? (length, colour, etc (yes, I know what an ethernet cable looks like))
http://buff.ly/1LqbyYa
Read the post above :wink:
Using this kit, I wrote this script which runs every 10 minutes via crontab. Then I have two C programs called "on" and "off" which remotely control the sockets. I ended up having to write them in C instead of Python as I was sent this board instead of the python-controllable one you get in the above kit.
I'm using DietPi as my OS image on my Pi, for lightweight-ness and speed (it's only a Pi 1).
You don't seem to be able to process what I wrote...
What does having a TV licence have to do with most of the sort of live streaming being delivered via kodi?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/mar/07/tv-live-streaming
0/10 for humour and helpfulness biggysilly
Worth repeating.
Depends whether you can comply with the Distance Selling Regulations - and you may have to pay the postage.
500mA - it's not a battery. :smiley: It's got more functionality so not surprising it consumes more. A USB HD/DVD can consume more than 500mA on its own.
I have a legit SkyGo account, so not looking for streams instead...
and my first computer was commodore 64
https://www.tvaddons.ag/install-kodi-windows/
By the way, as far as I am aware streaming live TV is (mostly) against the law in the UK so expect any stream via kodi to have a delay on it.
You'll need to run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' on an existing Pi SD card to pull down the newer packages for Pi3 support. SD cards made from the most recent images on raspberrypi.org should work with the Pi3 out of the box.
An mk808b plus is cheaper and still better then the Pi's for pretty much everything mainstream (video, emulation ect) including h265 - disappointing.
File1 720p 555 Kbps - Plays mostly ok apart from very detailed panning shots
File2 720p 1198 Kbps - Started poorly on some graphics but the 1 min of live action i watched was ok
File3 1080p 2329 Kbps - Jerky
File4 720p ??? mediainfo not showing bitrate - Plays very well
This got me thinking though, would it be possible to essentially make a steam link with this?? Has anyone tried it? Very disappointed with my link so far and I cant imagine a pi being any worse.
Re bay trail, I was pleasantly surprised that my hudl2, which i believe has a bay trail proc in it, didn't bat an eye lid at both 720p snf 1080p x265 content which played flawlessly. Even the 2015 kindle 7 plays x265 ok.
Or OSMC, which is the spiritual successor to RaspBMC
"The new quad core CPU will bring smoother GUI performance. There have also been recent improvements to H265 decoding. While not hardware accelerated on the Raspberry Pi, the new CPU will enable more H265 content to be played back on the Raspberry Pi than before."
They also recommend a heatsink. I got a cheap pure copper one off ebay for 99p
I did some more recent research on the Bay Trail vs Cherry Trail chipset playback for this very purpose (a mate of mine needed to handle h.265 consistently at 1080p) and I found that people were claiming the hardware support as found in Cherry Trail was utterly crucial; his little STB player is doing an admirable job in this regard.
Of course I'd be far happier if the Piv3 did h.265 decoding well, that'd be awfully nice!
http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
Im thinking of putting it in an arcade stick for some mame goodness
Cases
Micro SD Cards
I haven't experimented much but my understanding is that anything sub-PS1, i.e. SNES, megadrive etc runs perfectly on the Pi2.
I'm using DietPi as my OS image on my Pi, for lightweight-ness and speed (it's only a Pi 1).
Think I might just go for it and see what I can do with it when it arrives :smiley:
Many people seem to approach the Pi as as solution looking for a problem.
There are some good uses for it and some have used it to learn computing stuff; but usually things that could be learnt with existing computers.
There are many options for programming and you need to work out what avenue you'd be looking to explore.
A sensible start for a very 'easy' introduction is learning basic web site (html).
http://www.w3schools.com/ is one decent resource; but I don't know how it compares to other options out there now.
I've moved on to emulation on my Nvidia Shield now, so I can only imagine RetroPie has got better and it has a nice UI compared to other emulation apps such as RetroArch.
Wanting to break into computer coding as a complete beginner, would this be a good option and where/how can I utilize it? Are options like a bitcoin miner, basic Linux system for browsing ebay and monitoring ebay or streetpass relay possible on this? What other possibilities do people use there's for?
Have done a bit of googling prior to this for the pi 2, seems to be lots of information but spread about.
I would really appreciate if anyone can link some good all in one resources for finding answers to our own questions about the pi or perhaps a community somewhere, there seems to be lots of questions on here and I'm sure the rest of the community would appreciate it also!
Here's a few ive found so far:
3 best starter projects (Linux, Emulation and Media Centre)
FAQ from the official website
Bitcoin Mining (None profitable, more of a fun project)
How did you setup the Virgin SuperHub auto reboot, would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.
Thanks
What about for running a linux GUI with a browser and a sip softphone?
Not if they would be great for doing all those things. May want to look into gettinga NUC or (maybe not so attractive an option) you could but an Nvidia Shield tablet, root it, put linux on it, Bob's your uncle.
EDIT: Just realised its actually a quad core CPU and not a dual core, that makes things seem more likely now in terms of improvements in speed.
Benchmarks here:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-3-specs-benchmarks/
if using OpenElec make sure you upgrade to 6.0.2 with have the wifi and bluetooth drivers included
It isn't the same as the bump from Pi1 to Pi2 as they used very different architectures.
I've followed all the guides etc (almost all have typos in so you really need to be careful) and now have it set up but just can't connect any devices to it. I'm ready to give up but has anyone had any success?
Thanks
Also unfortunately this doesn’t appear to support hardware h265 decoding – this would have been a very nice thing to have as that’s becoming a more popular format for 4k video (reference http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/29/raspberry-pi-3-board-is-powered-by-broadcom-bcm2827-cortex-a53-processor-sells-for-35/). I’d like to see another source confirming this assertion (or countering it) though. If it had this it’d have been a true set’n’forget back-of-set player solution with Kodi for quite some time.
Overall though – yet another stellar job from the Raspberry Pi foundation, the new additions are very welcome indeed.
I have a few dotted around the house doing various geeky things.
My favourite is controlling the socket for my Virgin Media modem (well, the SuperHub in Modem Mode) by running internet connectivity checks every 10 minutes. If it can't connect to OpenDNS and Google DNS's (it pings them both 5 times), it kills the power to the modem for 10 seconds then turns it back on.
I shouldn't have to cycle the power on the SuperHub, but at least this makes it painless and automated.
Another great usage is as "Pi-Hole" where it blocks all adverts for any device on your network. That Pi just hangs off the back of my router, powered by the router's USB socket, and plugged into via a tiny 5cm RJ45 cable.. :smiley:
heat added.
The RRP is £27 but I don't think you can find it at that price anywhere.
Good find OP, and heated. CPC are a great company to deal with, imho, and I believe fully British to boot.
cant remember if had to fiddle though
11.66 for the 2 and easy dump of the older pi?
price will surely drop in coming days anyway
So only required if you intend on powering USB devices from the Pi.
Getting a pi3 now.
Heat added anyway.
How many threads need to be created until this pi3 is ~£25? :P