Gonna wait for the Pi 3.1415926.....

You're missing the subtle difference between a b and a B :wink:

USB 2.0 max theoretical 480 Mb/s, typically you won't see more than half of that in actual use. So 240 Mb/s which converted to a B is 30 MB/s. The slowest drive in the graph there is 27.2 MB/s so that would almost max out the USB 2.0 connection....

Screw Plex, Kodi, media serving, I'm going to use this to make a Robot and a Teasmade and a helicopter and also a Fallout 4 VDU Terminal

...boobs!

Worth noting if using HDMI to a modern TV the TV remote may control Kodi when switched the the RP HDMI .
The arrows, OK, and Back buttons normally work which is fine for simple tasks. For setup a keyboard (any USB wire unit will do though wireless is nice) or KORE (Andriod App) is excellent as you can cut and paste repo names / URL etc...

The pi is pretty good for its compatibility and low cost ,and not only are there plenty of USB ports ,but also the pi owns built-in wi-fi and bluetooth connection.We now have three ways to connect the pi with other devices;2.4G USB , wifi and bluetooth ,so a mini wireless (bluetooth)keyboard such as ipazzport (with high quality and low cost )or logitech(classic but a bit too expensive)is enough .There is not necessary,I think , to have to turn to kodi just for a remote.

I did read there was a big improvement in the firmware for sound quality (which should apply to all pi)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=136445

I'm running Kodi on both RASPBERRY PI MODEL A+ 256mb and RASPBERRY PI MODEL B 512mb

Or presumably you could use a USB dongle.

Use the HDMI out and connect to an External Decoder (AV Amp etc) All the Model B units Pi1, Pi2 and Pi3 can handled 1080p out. The video core on this new unit is the same as previous units so no issues with software compatibilities. I've noticed that with the RP2 and RP3 video playback on MPEG2 is fine using software decode only. No need to pay those people at the MPEG2 group any money.

What's the Pi like for emulators?

What can it reasonably handle?

Is the audio out any better out of the headphone jack or do you still need a dac?

Having real trouble trying to get Acestream working on the pi3. In terms of football streaming quality you have Flash -> Kodi apps -> Acestream / Sopcast.
Tried Rasbian and OSMC so far. Problem is on wiki says download for Ubuntu 14 and Debian 7. Rasbian uses Debian 8. Ubuntu mate uses Ubuntu 15. The Plexus app doesn't have the relevant advanced options for buffer control to make it usable on Kodi. The OS needs a web browser to find Ace links.
Source code is below if anyone can help?
Acestream Source Code

micro SD cosket is no more push-pull :disappointed: what a bulshieeet they should add a twizzers to remove microsd card when you pack in enclosure ....

pihut emailed me to say back in stock

sorry, not thepihut, Modmypi

£29.99

You meant noobs, right?? :-)

If it works it should be ok, there are no moving parts on the board, not sure it would be less reliable due to packaging.

Mine just arrived in exactly the same condition, i'm really not impressed :disappointed:
My mailing sleeve has actually been bent in half and squashed, so i'm not sure yet if the Pi will even work.

It should come in a retail box:-
http://blog.mymemory.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Raspberry-Pi-3-box.jpg
I can only guess that thepithut are removing the boxes so that they can get it to fit though Royal Mail's size guide as a 'large letter' to save on postage costs, which is really unacceptable as they dont state that they will do this on the product page.

Not sure what to do now - I would prefer to return it for a refund and order elsewhere (Given how much mines been bashed about even if it does turn on i'm not sure how reliable it would be) but I have a feeling thepihut returns process would be a nightmare given these reviews:-
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/thepihut.com
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/thepihut.com/555656f30000ff0002e5d39d
Wish I had researched more before I ordered now :disappointed:

Mine has been shipped !

Ordered on Monday from the PiHut and it arrived today. However, I'm very unimpressed with the packaging. Pi was just in an antistatic bag squeezed inside a thin and flimsy mailing sleeve offering no protection from it being squashed. No kind of box or any documentation. Every other Raspberry Pi I've bought has turned up in a nice retail box with some getting started instructions inside. Shan't be ordering from these amateurs again. Can anybody ordering from CPC or RS please say how their Pi arrives. Thank you.

Thanks for that, will do that later as I'm sure I'll buy some more stuff from the pi hut at some point.


I'm not sure how some people got that. I also find it odd that you confirm £36 (with PSU) on the paypal website and then confirm it at the higher amount inc postage. Must be a glitch with the paypal system or a term/condition I have accepted along the way.

Just to let you know, if you now setup an account on the website using the same email address you used to place the order, then you can still see your order history and if its been dispatched or not - even if you didnt originally setup an account and just paid using paypal. I just did this and can see my order is still "unfulfilled" :disappointed:

Also how did some people manage to get it for £30.00? I paid £32.50 as the postage amount was added on at the very final confirmation page (Even though the paypal checkout process said the total was £30.00, when I was redirected back to thepihut website for final confirmation it added the £2.50 delivery charge)

That's good news for you but a bit frustrating for me. Did you order through Paypal? If not then I wonder if they handle the orders differently?

Edit : Just received this from The Pi Hut

Thanks for the email!

We're currently working on getting all order picked, packed and shipped. With the overwhelming success of the Raspberry Pi3, our dispatch times are however suffering. To counteract this, we have brought in a temporary workforce to help! As soon as your order ships, we'll send you a confirmation email.

If your order was placed before 7pm (GMT) on 29/03/16 - rest assured that your order has not gone onto back order and the stock is here in our warehouse, we'll be shipping it out as soon as humanly possible.

If your order was placed after 7pm (GMT) on 29/03/16 - please note that the "buy" button was swapped for a "Back Order" option, we're expecting more Raspberry Pi 3 early next week, and your order will be shipped from this batch.

Edit2 : Another Email

Greetings from ThePiHut!

I just wanted to drop you an email to explain our current order situation.

With the overwhelming success of the Raspberry Pi3, we're currently working on getting all order picked, packed and shipped, however our dispatch times are sadly suffering (usually, we're able to ship within 12 hours of ordering!)

To put things into perspective, in the past 48 hours we have received what was roughly a months orders. To counteract this, and make sure that your order is dispatched as soon as humanly possible, we have brought in a temporary workforce to help us with the picking&packing of orders.

As soon as your order ships, we'll send you a confirmation email.

I'm getting a lot of emails regarding the Pi3 being on back order on the site (each email received is preventing me from packing more orders), and I wanted to help explain this -
> If your order was placed before 7pm (GMT) on 29/02/16 - rest assured that your order has not gone onto back order and the stock is here in our warehouse, we'll be shipping it out as soon as humanly possible.

> If your order was placed after 7pm (GMT) on 29/02/16 - please note that the "buy" button was swapped for a "Back Order" option, we're expecting more Raspberry Pi 3 early next week, and your order will be shipped from this batch.

Just a final note to say thank-you for your support and understanding

Kindest Regards,
Jamie Mann - Owner, ThePiHut

Does anyone know if this will run KODI and more importantly Acestream at HD streams?
Got a HP Proliant but the processor cant handle Acestream in HD.

I googled it before when the Pi2 came out and someone said it wont be able to due to high I/O writes whatever that means?
Think Acestream runs on Windows, Android and Linux according to this Wiki page.
Acestream

Ordered mine Monday at around 11am, and got email yesterday saying it's been despatched.

I ordered one at 8am on Monday as the RS site directed me to buy from thepihut. And like you as I ordered it via paypal I have no idea of the status!

Thanks OP, I'd ordered within 2hrs of release. Bargain for what it is. Now on backorder

Your comment is meaningless. The product I mentioned has the spec he was after.

I ordered one yesterday about 3pm, paid with PayPal not opening a account so can't log in to track my order. Ive not had any emails other than my first order acknowledgement. Wish I had ordered from RS now!!

ah excellent, I started drawing one up a couple weeks ago for my Pi2 so I can carry on!

Ordered one whilst they were still in stock! Thank you OP!

Does anyone know if I can run SkyNet on this?

Yeah, but the requirement was for a 1G port, which certainly isn't meaningless unless there's some horrendous problem (like it sharing the same USB host) preventing you benefiting from it. And 2GB of RAM could be useful too. :smiley:

8 cores is meaningless. As are other technical numbers used to inflate the value of cheap crappy products (megapixel springs to mind)

PI hut is very bad in service. They do not have proper system to receive and track the returns. last time they refused to replace the faulty part as they could not trace my returned packet.

Think I'll wait for version 3.14

Good idea, but of course as everything shares one USB host, this will more than halve if the data you are transferring is coming to/from an attached USB device.

my order #734xx still unfulfilled , ordered at 9am yesterday :disappointed:
RS still in stock http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/8968660/

If you really want gigabit, you can add a usb-gigabit adaptor
- you do see an improvement although only to 250Mbps or so (2x standard pi)

Ah ok, I hadn't seen that, I was looking at github, suppose that's not the official repo that I found on github, don't usually see stuff just released onto a forum like that.

I'll try to get this onto Arch then, might take a bit of messing around because it's a .deb

Kweb is updated all the time, read the thread. The developer is constantly updating kweb, its the best browser for the pi

Thanks but I'm reluctant to use a browser that hasn't been updated for 2 years

It's not for me to use, personally if I want youtube I just use youtube-viewer and play it with mpv but that's on my proper PC. I need a browser that can do the things that less experienced users expect to be able to do, without having a less experienced user using a browser that's so out of date they might as well be using IE.

Check out the banana pi which has gigabit lan, 8 cores and 2gb ram for about £42

does anyone know if they've released a technical drawing of the 3 yet? I want to make a case!

overpriced for what it is... a gutless chip which you need to spend more money on to get it running.
For the same price you can get more powerfull chinese tablet, and it comes with a screen/onboard storage already!

OOS - Now on backorder.

As a dev board you can expect an ardruino/atmel like system for that price.

I always find these complaints funny considering its intended audience/purpose.

Thats why things like using a weaker but compatible gpu matter, because people have gone low level with these things.

They're a non-profit organisation. If they could sell it for 10 quid they would and yes they're produced in China as well as the UK.

bla bla... £10 would be an ok price for it.

You're failing to grasp why the raspberry pi was made in the first place.

I don't need luck when I can run windows on them....

I mean as far as USB goes you need USB 3.0, not that there aren't other solutions.

Before USB3 came along we used FireWire and eSATA. :smiley:

You're right, I must be tired because I do understand the difference between megabits and megabytes and for some reason I was thinking USB 2.0 doesn't bottleneck mechanical hard drives, even though I once worked at a place where everyone insisted on working from external hard drives which was slowing everything down and I insisted we get some larger internal drives and move everything over. You do need USB 3.0 in order to not bottleneck mechanical drives.

Yeah - no reason why I should make up the figures I measured, is there?

Overpriced, yes it is my opinion, no I am not trolling.

You're missing the subtle difference between a b and a B :wink:

USB 2.0 max theoretical 480 Mb/s, typically you won't see more than half of that in actual use. So 240 Mb/s which converted to a B is 30 MB/s. The slowest drive in the graph there is 27.2 MB/s so that would almost max out the USB 2.0 connection....

Does anyone know if this will now have enough to power to play N64 emulated games?

USB 2.0 may be able to provide speeds of up to 480mb/s but mechanical hard drives max out at about 150mb/s and it's rare that a 2.5" drive would be capable of more than 100mb/s. Just a few benchmarks here, not sure how up to date this is -

Is it showing out of stock to everyone else?

Already ordered. Expected more trouble ordering after the Pi Zero supply cockup!

Instructions here

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40860

As rev says the Videocore doesn't support the HEVC codec natively. The Pi2 should be able to decode 720p using the arm cores and sometimes up to 1080p but it all depends on bitrates and so its a bit hit or miss. So I'd expect the Pi3 to be better at both of those but not 4k.

The GPU is the same like you said so no H.265. I'm not sure if the CPU would handle it. I guess it depends on the bitrate/resolution.

Can this hardware decode HEVC? What about a 4K output?

Sorry, It charged me 2.50 this morning so I assumed it was the same this evening.
Thanks for the heads up. I've updated the info accordingly

didn't add £2.50 for me either on PayPal checkout

Didn't add that on Paypal checkout.

Now down to £30.

Thanks, I'll have a look at that. Can't find it in Arch AUR so I'll try to make a PKGBUILD myself

Is this it?
https://github.com/ekapujiw2002/kweb

It's a bit out of date? This is the problem with the Pi, most of the community is centred around Debian so everything is years out of date.

Interesting...still, 1Gbps would be overkill for 99% of these devices sold.
Especially when probably 20% will go straight in a drawer :wink:

what are these used for :smiley:

Can it play Youtube videos yet?

A cheapo spinning 2.5" USB disk (ideal for this application) will produce more than 100Mbits/sec.
You would use UDP for streaming, not file transfer - it is quicker and lower latency but not reliable.

I just copied a large file from a 2.5" USB magnetic HD my 2011 plug computer (pre-dates Raspberry Pi), mounted as NFS, using its 1Gbit/sec ethernet port (which does not go via USB internally). The first time it managed about 120Mbit/sec - faster than a 100Mbit/sec port. The second time was more like 200Mbit/sec, because it was buffered in RAM on the plug computer.

Incidentally, using scp it was more like 50Mbits/sec because that's where the CPU is needed - for encryption. You wouldn't use SSHFS to mount a file server.

"hat COMPATIBLE" does that mean you can wear it on your head? like GGaloway, or Dtrump in the thicket?
10x Faster, Soon be catching up to amd, and then two more years and they will equal Intel!

Ordered.

Thanks op.

Does it support Async Compute?

What am I missing RS has these for <£27 or are they different

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/8968660/?cm_mmc=UK-PPC-_-google-_-2_UK_EN_LS_Raspberry_Pi_Exact-_-Raspberry_Pi_3&mkwid=sGyhjQRtw_dc|pcrid|85318714406|pkw|raspberry%20pi%203|pmt|e|prd|&gclid=CPXTzJ3tnMsCFakfwwodGcYHgg it is plus VAT me bad

£32.10 RS

Argh still no gigabit LAN, what is holding that back?

There could be plenty of processing required depending on the protocol used, plus I've no idea what the data transfer rate is of attached storage on these devices, but I guess that'll restrict your gigabit file xfer speed too.

You got me curious and I found this:

Gonna wait for the Pi 3.1415926.....

298 reviews and it's just come out today, hmmmm smells like fish faeces :stuck_out_tongue:

Using it as a file server - no processing required.

I'm hoping this will be able to emulate N64 games properly!

anyone recommend some guides for boobs on how to get the pi set up from scratch? Just wanted it for kodi reasons so would love a guide from initial set up all the way to installing kodi. Which OS are you guys using? for me, the simpler the better.

Screw Plex, Kodi, media serving, I'm going to use this to make a Robot and a Teasmade and a helicopter and also a Fallout 4 VDU Terminal

Heat added.
I get £30 with free p&p

very tempted to get one and use it as my plex server in the lounge. A small case with ample vents for heat should do the trick i think?

ordered 2x :smiley:

Wonder if this will transcode plex

I would tend to agree but have bought one anyway to have a play with. Picking up on your decent firmware updates comment I am still impressed by just how much effort the guys put in, the HEVC optimisation being a case in point.

You will probably be better off with an odroid C2 which is being shipped this week I believe. Native HEVC support up to 4k I believe and GBe for not that much more money than a Pi. Plus it has an Android build, 5.1 definitely but I believe they have been testing marshmallow recently. The only thing they don't have now compared to the Pi is wifi/bluetooth.

So apart from the dedicated support of a standard OpenElec build, assuming that would happen, and the fact the userbase for prior Pi platforms is massive and decent firmware updates, this offers little, other than a slight speed increase, over an Amlogic S905 chipset with some decent support if used solely for KODI. Obviously used outside of a media server its a different story but I cannot see any benefit for me upgrading the original PiB's I already have.

That's what I was thinking.

As far as I know, plex uses the cpu not gpu for transcoding

The Ethernet is still shared over the USB bus for those wondering.

A couple of benchmark shots courtesy of The MagPi:



More benchmarks and details available on their site here:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-3-specs-benchmarks

Also announced by Raspberry Pi organisation (coming later this year) v3 Model A & v3 compute module in the faq's here:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/

Nice to see another (mostly) fully compatible hardware update.

Built in wifi & Bluetooth will go down well with the kodi team, even if it's wifi-n only. Great for remote controls!

Nice spec increase for the price. I'll take one.