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madbull
26 Jan 16
Bought this last month for £99 but has since come down in price. (if you did the same, ask John Lewis to price match themselves, as I was able to get £20 back)

Got this to replace an old 800w Logik and couldn't believe how quiet this is in operation. Being 950w it is also quick to heat items up.

This is the same style as microwave from the Currys deal a few months ago but with a grill and the added bouns of a 2 year guarantee.
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Rich44
26 Jan 16 6 #14
No microwave is stainless steel inside, whoever thinks that this description means the interior???

Weird!
ohblobbything
26 Jan 16 3 #35
Will this run Windows 10? Thanks.
All comments (88)
Rich44
26 Jan 16 #1
68% score at Which only bad points uneven grilling & power drops off during long use, that was based on rrp of £134 so this seems a really good buy!
royals to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #53
​yeh which rated our previous sharp steamwave microwave rrp 400. After three years it exploded. Despite being out of warranty i got a full refund. Shocking quality. We had a panasonic prior to the sharp that was faultless in 12years. Needless to say ill stick to panasonic
2004ns
26 Jan 16 #2
How do your price match with John Lewis itself?
aym280 to 2004ns
26 Jan 16 #8
It is the retail price for JL whilst the others are flogging it at £130+. Just tell you, you have to shop around. Or perhaps people not happy with the grill and return them... JOKING...
2004ns
26 Jan 16 #3
Oh I get it never mind
Rich44
26 Jan 16 1 #4
Couldn't resist, don't get money till Thursday but there was PayPal option lol, fatal!

Cheers OP hopefully won't need that 2 year warranty
b1g1an
26 Jan 16 1 #5
Good price for top brand but only stainless finish on the outside.
aym280 to b1g1an
26 Jan 16 #9
What is it inside then? I am on the verge of ordering..
SFJnet
26 Jan 16 #6
We got the non-grill version of this a couple of months ago (via HUKD price alert of course) and it's a good microwave. Easy to use and very quiet.
dwl99
26 Jan 16 #7
tempting, our old Panasonic microwave is on its last legs
b1g1an
26 Jan 16 #10
Usual cheap white enamel, nothing really wrong in that, just not stainless which the description might suggest and John Lewis fail to mention.
aym280
26 Jan 16 #11
Is it big enough to roast a chicken please? I am looking for my credit card and then realised that it must be able to house a 1.5kg chicken.
madbull
26 Jan 16 #12
Here are the full specs.

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/microwaves/microwave-with-grill/nn-gd371sbpq.html

Says the turntable is 285mm, would of thought that is big enough but I'm not 100% sure.
aym280
26 Jan 16 1 #13
Thanks, Still I am dithering as I used to have one with 30L. I think I might chicken out!
Rich44
26 Jan 16 6 #14
No microwave is stainless steel inside, whoever thinks that this description means the interior???

Weird!
madbull to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #16
There are quiet a few microwave that have a stainless steel interior, which tend to cost more. Whether these are better is questionable.

Here is a Panasonic one for example

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/microwaves/combination-microwaves/nn-ct585sbpq.html
b1g1an to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #17
Wrong! All professional ones are and there are some consumer ones about if you search though not as many as there used to be because everyone wants things cheap nowadays. They're stainless inside for the same reason the rest of a pro kitchen is stainless.

Whether this bothers you or not is entirely your choice but I was just making the point this is NOT a stainless steel microwave, it has a stainless finish on the outside purely for aesthetic reasons.
TheUrbis to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #20
My Sharp which was bought from Richer Sounds a few years ago is...
mystery_man to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #24
Sorry Rich44 but you are wrong. There are plenty of microwaves with a stainless steel interior. I have personally seen and used them many times over the years. It's not that weird really.
DealJourno to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #52
Plenty including my one which is a convection oven and grill also. Normally only more expensive models though.
philipgregson58 to Rich44
26 Jan 16 #68
​You are wrong my friend. my Panasonic is ss interior and exterior. Clearance bargains ,Walsall about 3 years ago, similar large model to this.
madbull
26 Jan 16 #15
If your near any shops that sell Panasonic microwaves, you could always go in there and try a 23l one. I did this but only with a bag of microwavable rice, so you'd properly get a few stares lol
shadow_boxer
26 Jan 16 #18
Bought this from Costco last year for £120 I think. Excellent microwave and a great price. Though I think Costco comes with a 5 years warranty possibly.
TheUrbis
26 Jan 16 #19
Worth noting that unless it's an Inverter model, these are Chinese and manufactured by a third party, generally Haier.

Not the best.
madbull to TheUrbis
26 Jan 16 #21
TheUrbis
26 Jan 16 #22
Cracking deal in that case.
Psaleem1
26 Jan 16 #23
Thanks
2004ns
26 Jan 16 #26
My current Panasonic microwave which is about 5 plus years old is stainless steel from inside
V6ALFISTI
26 Jan 16 #27
How does the inverter tech work in practice, I was looking for a combination microwave but does this inverter tech mitigate that need?
jeczap
26 Jan 16 #28
Would love to find a 1200W microwave - quite common in Canada (discovered after a recent trip)
Anyone seen them sold here? The extra 200W is very noticeable (1000W seems to be the highest wattage available here)
seattle
26 Jan 16 #29
FYI - i bought one of these off tescos last year. the price was lower (50 mark) and i find the grill function useless (it doesnt work anywhere near as well as an oven grill).
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #30
No. It still provides only microwaves which don't brown, unlike conventional elements. I infer that the inverter system allows power to be continuously variable, unlike the on/off of conventional microwave ovens. Am I correct?
OB1
26 Jan 16 #31
Roast a chicken in a microwave? Eh?
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #32
But if the Which? report is correct that power drops off after continuous use, it is badly designed I'm guessing with inadequate heat removal from the inverter circuitry which has to reduce power to avoid overheating.
OB1
26 Jan 16 #33
Make sure you leave the door open until it dries after use, otherwise as it's not stainless steel it'll rust......
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #34
Yep - good way to roast a chicken - much faster than a conventional oven. But if you want it to be crispy and browned, you'll need a combination microwave.
ohblobbything
26 Jan 16 3 #35
Will this run Windows 10? Thanks.
rodman to ohblobbything
26 Jan 16 #73
It runs on iOS
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #36
Pretty poor quality stainless steel though, if the review is anything to go by.
madbull
26 Jan 16 #37
That's just an example of a microwave with a stainless steel interior.
Zoheb
26 Jan 16 #38
John Lewis are the best
aym280 to Zoheb
26 Jan 16 2 #62
Don't be brainwashed.
OB1
26 Jan 16 #39
Definitely not roast! Ignoring the semantics though, surely you end up with a very unevenly cooked bird?
winchman
26 Jan 16 #40
Are you mixing up this model with a combination microwave, they are normally £150ish. The inverter part is just a Panasonic thing.
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #41
Yes... but it's a great demonstration of the fact that there are different qualities of stainless steel!
bob_regis
26 Jan 16 1 #42
We are on our third model of these. I would never buy again. The invertor models do not seem to last particularly long (do a google search).

John lewis were awful with handling this, even though bought online kept getting me to drop it off at the repair depot in the middle of town (these are bulky and big).
jeczap to bob_regis
26 Jan 16 #50
got the combo/invertor a couple years ago, which at the time sold for £230-260. It developed a slight electric buzzing noise that could be heard after the unit had timed out and door was open. I'm sure one time I even felt like I'd received a mild shock from it. Very disappointed with what should have been a reliable appliance for the price paid and from a reputable name.

@OB1 -yes, when I first got the microwave I cooked a whole chicken in it (in about half or 1/3 of the time!) - it would be hard to tell the difference between it and a conventional oven cooked bird...........but it really stinks up the kitchen! You'd need to place the microwave directly under the range hood, or in the shed! Great for jacket potatoes, too.
quatermass
26 Jan 16 #43
Would agree with bob_regis. Had a couple of Panasonic inverter microwaves myself - just about outlasted the warranty. Brilliant while they work (never had baked potatoes cook as well) but seems to be a fundamental problem with reliability. The problems the Which review mentioned sound like they could be causing the longer term issues but as said above, plenty of mention of this online.
mikezoe65
26 Jan 16 #44
We bought this model b4 xmas and so far has been fine! Keep having to remind my partner to place a cup with about 1" water on the tt with her microwaveable neck warmer or risk damaging the unit.
pibpob to mikezoe65
26 Jan 16 #47
That's interesting - can't it just be used at a lower power?

As I said earlier, traditional microwaves are only on or off, and can only adjust their power by switching on and off at regular intervals. You can hear clicks and buzzes as this happens. Even at a low power setting, the "on" time at full power might be enough to damage something sensitive. But does the inverter not allow a continuously lower power to be produced? Otherwise, I don't see the point, apart from saving weight and bulk, as the traditional transformer in a microwave oven is very chunky.
wpj
26 Jan 16 #45
Bought an expensive model without the rotating plate just before Comet shut down. Not been impressed at all, but fortunately there was a 5 year guarantee which has been used twice for a complete repair of inverter and magnetron. First I have heard about the power dropping off, but it now explains a lot!
oldskooladdict
26 Jan 16 #46
Hmm, wondering if it's worth taking the chance - plenty of Amazon reviews stating the peeling issue. I was thinking JL would be good to deal with to return, I worry based on Bob_Regis's response that this may not be the case, hmm... teetering between yes and no now!
royals to oldskooladdict
26 Jan 16 #58
​no microwave id perfect. This is decent inexpensive and you get a two year warranty. You could buy the sharp steamwave we had before. Built like a tank, weighed a ton, about five times the weight of this panasonic. quality shocking for top range item. All fine, then i heated up a coffee in a mug. Went to open door and whole glass exploded. Some shards were over 12 foot down the kitchen. Cant believe i didnt get cut. Reported to sharp, sebt it. Took them sux months to faff about but refunded me when i threatened legal action and report them to trading standards. No apology, nothing. Pathetic customer service, worst I've experienced in years and id never buy another sharp product again but to the poor service. Panasonic and pioneer have always been excellent
aym280 to oldskooladdict
26 Jan 16 #63
JL is as good as the stuff its suppliers pass on to them to sell. I bought a Phillips Juicer and found out it was a return. The second one was also a return as can be seen from the state of the two boxes with holes punched from inside of the boxes. Please don't talk as if JL were a god!
aym280 to oldskooladdict
26 Jan 16 #64
That puts me right off!
royals
26 Jan 16 #48
Nice one. We too bought it for 99 from jl so will ask for a refund of 20. Thanks op
royals
26 Jan 16 #49
Decent microwave. Probably the best under 100
noahsdad
26 Jan 16 1 #51
Stainless steel inverter! Sounds great, but what does it mean lol ? :smiley:
royals
26 Jan 16 #54
This a brilliant microwave for the price
NSA
26 Jan 16 #55
I bought this in early January after our old Panasonic died...

It was £79 special purchase at JL and I have to say that I'm really impressed with it. It looks nice and is sooooooo quiet in operation!!!

Definitely worth the £79 and as a bonus you get the grill option too. I saw it in Costco at the weekend and it was £120 which is still cheaper than the £150 that Amazon had it for sale at!
jeczap
26 Jan 16 #57
cheers! I did have a poke around on a few of the manufactures website and didn't see anything.

£470 :confused:
oldskooladdict
26 Jan 16 #59
Yeah, I guess that's what I was thinking, if I hold out for the perfect one I'll be using a stove forever and never get a microwave!
wpj
26 Jan 16 #60
Better than the semi-commercial version at £1400-ish.
wpj
26 Jan 16 #61
PS You will note that it is "2.2 cu ft" and "Genius" which seems to indicate that this is a US model; the Genius range was brilliant- first one we had which lasted 15 years. I don't know why they don't do the range over here but I assume that it is an EU thing like vacuum cleaners.
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #65
The EU vacuum cleaners directive was to reduce energy waste from a combination of marketing and an ignorant gullible public who were duped into thinking that a bigger input power must be better. The "number" on microwave ovens is at least the output rather than the input power, so the only reason to make them inefficient is to save manufacturing cost, which is a much less powerful incentive.
dwl99
26 Jan 16 #66
The interior oven dimensions on the Panasonic website are 315 x 353 x 178 mm which seems quite small. I calculate this as being 19.8 litres, not 23. Has anyone got one they can measure? 178mm high seems very small.
madbull to dwl99
26 Jan 16 #76
I would say that height is right, that's the lowest point thanks to the grill element. Without that it's about 15mm taller. You can just about stand a bag of uncle Ben's rice upright, if that's any help
bob_regis
26 Jan 16 #67
I used to be but after several issues with them I now prefer Amazon with their no nonsense returns policy. (I buy with my credit card and get 2 years extra warranty anyway).
Bazza71
26 Jan 16 #69
Other way round for us. Two Panasonic microwaves, both crapped out just after warranty. Now have Sharp and still going strong.
mubashar
26 Jan 16 #70
I personally would never buy a Panasonic microwave again. I bought a 32l one from John Lewis last year for £89. Seemed to be a good deal on paper, however, for some reason Panasonics tend to not have a boost (30 Sec) button which is what all other microwaves tend to offer as standard. Need to press at lease 3 button instead of 1 conveniently positioned button to get basic 30 sec reheat use out of it.
rodman
26 Jan 16 #71
got one last year but older model, still going strong
price compare: http://www.idealo.co.uk/compare/2969721/panasonic-nn-gd371s.html
jaizan
26 Jan 16 #72
Last year I purchased a Panasonic inverter microwave and returned it within 48 hours.

Programme it to run for 90 seconds & it would run for almost 150 seconds, so 1 minute more noise than I expect.
Also, it would carry on running even with the door open.

I have no idea if the microwave generator actually switches off at that point (the noise is exactly the same), but I do know it is a feature I never ever want on a microwave.

Just in case Panasonic people have any doubt:
1 Your microwaves should make noise for not a second longer than the customer specifies when programming it. [No one likes microwave noise & some people like to listen to the radio, or hold conversations in the kitchen]
2 It should shut off at the end of that time.
3 It must always shut off when the door is opened. Shut off = No microwave & No noise, as I want to know it has stopped.

Avoid these.

If Panasonic want to add novel features, how about a normal microwave with a big thick sound deadening case that reduces the operating noise to a lower level ?
JamesSmith to jaizan
30 Jan 16 1 #87
Page 17 under "Important information - read carefully" :

"Fan Motor Operation
After using the oven the fan motor may rotate for a few minutes to cool the electric components. This is normal and you can take out food even though the fan motor operates. You can continue using the oven during this time."

If anything this will extend the life of the microwave.

RTFM
Proveright
26 Jan 16 #74
An inverter converts 12 v to 220/240 v . The Panasonic misuse of this name appears to be a
marketing gimmick .
Having tried various microwaves with grills , the grill part is rubbish . Always ending up using the cooker grill or oven to crisp and brown food. If you already have a cooker with a grill, you might as well buy a cheaper model microwave.
MaximusRo
26 Jan 16 #75
You're completely wrong and yet to present your opinions as facts.
As well as my personal experience with numerous vacuum cleaners, there are countless others that constantly report new vacuum cleaners with smaller engines being inefficient and cursing the EU directive.

All vacuums are sold now using marketing techniques to be "Eco" and "as powerful as a 2000W motor" but they are not. First of all, just look at older vacuums that had air-watt ratings (suction power) over 400W. Nowadays, there are no models rated that high any more. In fact, if you look at the old models from the same manufacturer, and compare to new EU compliant model, you can easily see they have sometimes half the suction power.

I can easily provide links, but you can see for yourself. Take any manufacturer, like Samsung, that is one of the few to easily disclose suction power, and see all their high suction power models are gone

Your point is also obviously wrong as there was no competition of motor wattage, it maxed at 2300w and you could rarely buy a motor under 1800w. EU is making everybody angry, as it is easy to see you need to use the machine for twice the time so you basically eat more energy but get frustrated as the carpet is still dirty
aym280
26 Jan 16 #77
Crapped out just after warranty... This built-in obsolescence is really ruining the joy of buying something new as you know after 2 years, something bounds to go wrong. Also new things are no longer so well made. My neighbour had his new double glazed window installed a year ago, and last week one of the panels exploded. When I looked at the workmanship of his newly installed window, it struck fear into my heart. We had our windows for more than 20 years and I had never heard of its exploding,.. until now that is!
dwl99
26 Jan 16 #78
Thanks, that's a bit on the small side so I think I'll cancel
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #79
It's actually a much more general term than that. Look up inverter air conditioners, where the inverter part is a variable speed motor drive.
pibpob
26 Jan 16 #80
Can I TL:DR that for you? "I'm a Eurosceptic."
mubashar
26 Jan 16 #81
For others seeking a large (30l) stainless steel microwave and don't mind the standard one year guarantee, may want to consider the below option for £90:
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/cooking/microwaves/kenwood-k30gss13-microwave-with-grill-stainless-steel-20499225-pdt.html
louiselouise
26 Jan 16 #82
I bought a combi (microwave, grill, oven) Inverter Panasonic for the bargainous price of £84 from Amazon Warehouse just after Xmas. Blimmin' thing only lasted a week and stopped working mid-programme - completely dead, no power going into the machine, plenty of space around the vents, so I'm a bit stumped what went wrong. I realise that this is only a microwave/grill but I'm not sure what to make of Panasonic after that experience.

Can't fault Amazon, they picked it up within two days.
u0421793
26 Jan 16 #83
I doubt it can even get ITV, let alone the light programme or the home service.
Ancient
27 Jan 16 #84
They don't make microwaves like they used to. I bought a Goodmans microwave/grill with stainless steel interior, for £50 over ten years ago, and it is still going strong. At my workplace one with a painted interior, went very rusty within two years. Its replacement is aired out and dried after every use to prevent the same happening as again it is painted inside.
bluejmc2005
27 Jan 16 #85
Thanks OP ordered
JamesSmith
30 Jan 16 #86
Just picked up one of these.

Wondered if anyone else who has one can confirm that it's normal for the door hinge to widen very very slightly as you move from top to bottom.

Only found one side image online which looks fairly similar to mine (although it's more obvious up close).

https://www.varle.lt/static/uploads/products/2/kuc/kuchenka-mikrofalowa-panasonic-nn-gd371sepg_1.jpg
JamesSmith
4 Feb 16 #88
So far so good.. happy with the purchase

Not tank-line in build heft but seem good VFM and cooks much better than my old one - hope it doesn't break !

Didn't think I'd use the grill much but getting nice quasi-pizza results quick by topping Crosta and Mollica Piada's with a bit of passata mixed with herb vinegar, oil, pepper, paprika, bit of moz' and mascarpone on top..

The grill stand itself s a bit daft with it's legs and all.. :smirk:
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£0.68 GearBest10 Oct 17
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl
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Whyte & Mackay Special Blended Scotch Whisky 70cl

£10 Sainsburys10 Oct 17
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£149 Huawei Honor Store10 Oct 17
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)

£1.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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Lego Friends Calender
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£98 £200 Tesco Direct10 Oct 17
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Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)
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£12.99 Studentcomputers.co.uk10 Oct 17
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend

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