I had enough OCZ SSDs go on me that I just won't touch that brand anymore. They may have made improvements to their quality control, but once burned twice shy - I'll never waste time/money on them again

Buy Intel/Samsung if you want quality, performance, and more importantly peace of mind. The time you waste on fidgety or poor quality drives is worth more than the few quid difference

Samsung is probably the better drive of the three. But currently around £17 more expensive than this OCZ.

The OCZ is (under normal use) comparable to the Sandisk of similar capacity.

If you're going from a mechanical HDD, I doubt you would be disappointed with any of the three. Going from an OCZ/Sandisk to a Samsung, I doubt most people would notice any significant speed benefits.

I'll help you out, as it appears you are describing yourself with your last sentence. Which is a bit of irony.

First of all. I agreed that Toshiba made FLASH memory. Great. No issue there.

What Toshiba had no clue about was how to turn that into an HDD-like device. I.E. SSD.

They bought OCZ for the drivers and firmware, because they didn't have a solid understanding.

Read. The. Article.

No, you know what, I'll help you out directly as you continue to make things up.


Does that need any interpretation? Seiichi Mori is the Chief Engineer and VP of Toshiba. If he says they want to combine their NAND with OCZ's controllers, firmware, and software... You know that's exactly what they are going to do (And it is in fact exactly what happened).

So, when I say this again, Toshiba Trion 100 uses OCZ's drivers. You can see a distinct improvement in speed after Toshiba purchased OCZ. It isn't a coincidence, OCZ did have reasonable drivers for raw speed. That's always been their thing, if it doesn't break, it's fast.

Raid 0 isn't for backing up.

​Why people need to backup an OS drive is beyond me

Nate1492 isn't making anything up - Toshiba invented NAND Flash Toshiba :: Inventor of FLASH Memory :: WIthout it we wouldnt have modern day SSD's as we know them. So you could say Toshiba know a thing or two other than just mechanical HDD's. They also trail blazed MLC. You may have heard of this if you proclaim to know so much about the history of SSD's. Kinda weird you negate this important history. If you read the article link you posted you will infact see the acquistion of OCZ wasn't fueled so much for the tech (as you can see, they've already got that covered) but more because of OCZ' SSD market prescence. Get it right before you go round correcting what you beleive to be wrong, as you're only creating disinformation.

Wait, Toshiba have been making SSDs for 30 years? No. Period.

Also, you are simply wrong about the controllers.

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/storage/toshiba-s-ocz-acquisition-what-it-means-for-both-companies-1253278

Toshiba acquired OCZ for their controllers, fimrware, and software. I mean, you can't be any further from the truth.

Your premise is completely wrong and misguided. OCZ was a poor SSD company, and it wasn't just because of their failure rates. They had poor controllers and drivers. The fact that Toshiba bought and used their controllers and drivers says *so* much for Toshiba's SSD offerings.

Spinning metal is nothing like SSD tech. You can keep guessing at what actually happened, or you can choose to become informed on the topic. I won't sit here and debunk your random assertions of pure false information. Stop it, you are making things up.

Is quite a resonable deal. Saw it and checked them out - the reviews say they're fine for gaming etc. However they perform quite mediocre when it comes to large files. Check out a review and your'll see what mean ; Anandtech Review Conclusion
Quote from Anandtech ''To date, nobody has been able to cross the bar Samsung set and neither does the Trion 100. In fact, the Trion is the slowest modern TLC drive we've tested and in some cases it is so by a quite hefty margin'''& also ''The poor performance also translates to power inefficiency. Because the drive spends more time processing each IO, it will end up idling less than a faster drive would''

This SSD at this price is a great cheap 1st SSD for anyone crossing over from a mechanical HDD. At its normal price its a defo no-go as others are greater - much greater.

No, inventing something doesn't make you good at something, however inventing it and continuing to produce it in a commercially viable manner for the best part of the next three decades usually suggests you're not too bad at it.

You're wrong again. Toshiba certainly use their own controllers, at least they do on the Q300 and its Pro variant, which are their current range of SSDs. If you meant OCZ bought in controllers, they didn't; they now use Toshiba controllers, too. They aren't bought in, considering OCZ is now owned by Toshiba.

I strongly suspect that pricing has far more to do with the popularity of SSDs than anything else, something Toshiba's drives don't do so well on (though this is no reflection on their technical ability and reliability). The average consumer is just looking for a balance of price and performance, which usually means either a Samsung 8XX Evo if they want a bit of performance at an acceptable price, or otherwise the cheapest drive they can find in the capacity they need (maybe excluding the Kingston V300).

Toshiba's own drives, and those branded as OCZs, are fine. I'm not sure what your problem with OCZ (and now seemingly Toshiba) is, but it's distinctly unfounded, even if you were burnt by an old OCZ drive. Slagging off OCZ was perfectly acceptable and valid a few years ago, but ever since Toshiba got involved it's misguided and uneducated.

​Never sugested that. I mean speed and with these two in raid0 you can get around 1000mb/second speeds. For backup use 3.5 inch drive (4tb in my case).

​I know exactly what I have said and I do mean raid0. I use 2x120gb ssd in raid0 and have back up set up to my 4tb 3.5 drive. raid0 gives me around 1000mb/sec speeds.

Buy two and raid0. Never look back

So why did they need to buy someone else's driver and controllers? Making the NAND flash does not qualify you as a good SSD maker. There's a reason when you go to amazon and search for SSDs, if you select by brand, Toshiba is only available if you click "See more".

Yep, before the damn Koreans head hunted our people / stole our tech!

I liked the "manufacturers with more history" comment, it made me chuckle :stuck_out_tongue:.

No, you're flat out wrong. Toshiba invented NAND flash back in the '80s, I'm pretty sure they don't need to do any "figuring out" by 2016. They're a massive player in the flash storage game.

These drives are fine, they suffer with none of the issues which plagued earlier OCZ drives prior to the company being taken over by Toshiba. There is no deeper problem. These drives aren't based on any failure, beyond the fact they wouldn't exist if old OCZ had actually made decent SSDs and not ruined the company, paving the way for Toshiba to takeover.

As for price, I made no mention of it. I simply called out people's misunderstandings and attempted to stop the spread of misinformation regarding the OCZ brand and its perceived level of reliability.

Until Toshiba figure out SSD? Haha. They were the ones who invented and introduced NAND flash based storage to the world.

The problem is deeper than what you say.

This isn't just a rebranded toshiba drive. It's an OCZ technology that was purchased and 'fixed' by Toshiba. This SSD is based on OCZ's failures, and this is Toshiba's first major offering into the SSD market. There are plenty of reasons to steer clear until Toshiba figure out the SSD.

Look at how fast they released the Trion 150.

Not to mention, 45.99 for this SSD, which is considered the absolute bottom tier in SSDs, regardless of reliability, is ludicrous.

There are cheaper SSDs floating around hotukdeals from better manufacturers with more history -- Crucial and Sandisk have both been lower in the last 2 weeks.

Thx for posting the deal - this will hopefully extend the life of my laptop with a year or two :smiley:

As you say, they are much improved since Toshiba took the helm. God knows why Toshiba decided to keep the OCZ name and not just brand their SSDs as Toshibas. They obviously didn't do enough market research into just how tarnished the name OCZ had become with regard to SSDs. Either that or it was some stupid requirement of the buy-out that the OCZ name lived on.

Just look at all the confusion on here, it's been over two years since OCZ were bought out and their SSD line up replaced with Toshiba technology inside an OCZ branded case and still people spout about them being unreliable pieces of junk. No doubt there'd be none of it if these were the exact same drive but with "Toshiba" written on the front.

Careful if you use Macs/OSX there is a compatibility issue with older Nvidia chipsets - it wont work

OCZ forum

I agree. I have an ARC 100 in my HTPC and it's a great bit of kit.

They seem to have much better reliability since Toshiba took them over. Saying that, and I know this is just anecdotal, I have an old OCZ (Vertex 2 I think)120GB SSD in a laptop and hasn't failed or had any problems - 5 years old now and used on a daily basis.

As above I purchased a few older OCZ's, I updated to the latest firmware (said to fix issues and prevent the sudden death others have had). They were wrong. I have a pile of dead OCZ SSD's in the corner, i'd suggest paying the extra personally for something that hasn't had as significant a failure rate recently.

I had enough OCZ SSDs go on me that I just won't touch that brand anymore. They may have made improvements to their quality control, but once burned twice shy - I'll never waste time/money on them again

Buy Intel/Samsung if you want quality, performance, and more importantly peace of mind. The time you waste on fidgety or poor quality drives is worth more than the few quid difference

the new trion 150 have just come out

how does this compare to it's Sandisk and Samsung rivals?