I'm feeling the same. I'd like to have a competent rig for my TV but I don't have the sum to invest in straight away, plus my tight fisted nature can't justify putting more money upfront.

I'd hope it's possible to have a basic set up, capable of running this, for say £300. Which I can then invest a decent amount of money in over the year.

"Help me PC master race, you're my only hope"

*Sends R2 unit away*

Looking forward to this game, when its down to £3.74 like all the others!

EDITED TO ADD: I did give you heat though!

Came out yesterday! Shows you what a rip off console gaming is (I'm one of the mugs!)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-budget-gaming-pc-guide If your willing to go second hand for some items you can do even better.

Not really, not when you consider you will have to buy a graphics card that costs the price of both consoles combined to just about be able to play the games that will be released at the end of this consoles generations run, you may not be able to run those games at all.

Take in to consideration the equivalent GFX card when the Xbox 360 came out was the Radeon HD 2600 XT (that's being very, VERY generous), now that card cant run a bloody thing. It would explode if you tried to run GTA5 on it, hell it wont even run GTA 4 anywhere near decently! (Even three generations old Intel integrated graphics is ~5% faster, the Intel HD3000) Yet your Xbox 360 will run it fine.

The PC GFX card business is corrupt.

Hmm, I'm not really in agreement there. My 6 year old (admittedly decent spec) laptop still runs most new games - just not necessarily at top settings. The odd game here or there causes issues, but not many.

The big advantage of PC gaming for me is compatibility with older games. I've got GTAV on the PS3 but never play it only because its gathered dust in my shed since I bought a PS4.

If you already have an office/bedroom decent PC you can always opt for in home streaming and put something cheap under the telly :smiley:

Lego games don't need a top card to play on max settings

My 2nd pc with a HD6850 plays this just fine, miles better game than Lego Batman 3 or Lego Jurassic World. Even managed to download it on Tuesday from Steam. £7.75 is a very good price.

Great price

If you message me I'm sure I can help you put together a budget build, all though it might stretch you to £400 without an OS.

Or do what I have done.. Steam link under TV. Literally a 5 inch by 4 inch box.

How does your Steam Link perform? Mine is rather disappointing, I have to stick a lot of my settings on low and put it down to 720p to get a bearable playability and that's directly through ethernet haha

Not a hiccup 1080p 60fps across the board.

Went to purchase, then saw that they wanted to charge me for using Paypal instead of one of their "preferred" payment handlers, and then wanted a copy of my drivers license to prove my identity! Seemed a little iffy to me, so got the Deluxe version for £16.99 from 365 Games (used them before, no problems.) Slightly more than some other places, but a better chance of it not turning out to be a dodgy key!

The season pass is £5.81 on top as well, £13.56 for both, 5 extra levels at least, more to come after Civil War comes out.

Whet a load of nonsense. PC games come with graphics settings, and if the super new game is designed for a newer dx version and newer gfx cards to look even more amazing than previous games, turn down the settings a notch or two and play it at the same quality as you would have done previous games, which will still outstrip that of the consoles running the same game

Decent reviews:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/lego-marvels-avengers

For <£8 you can't complain.

Show me a video of GTA 4 (a game released 7 years ago) running well on the 2600XT anywhere near the same standard as the xbox 360. How about Alien Isolation? Requires a DX11 GFX card on the PC but seems to run fine on the Xbox 360 with a DX10 level card (it may not even qualify as high as DX10). How will you make that and other DX11 only games run?

Just come out with it and say "I want the best gfx possible and am willing to pay over the odds for it", that's fine. Just stop moaning when someone mentions a console.

Given that the 2600XT was a $150 card on release and given not great 3D gaming reviews it wouldn't have been a good choice to get when brand new as a card you're wanting to keep longer term, especially as 7yrs ago ATI were starting to fall behind nvidia. Seeing as we're on a bargain hunting site, the person likely would've found a better deal than rrp on something better value, possibly an older more powerful card. For your example of GTA 4, I don't have one to test it on, and it would be difficult for me specifically to find a video with the correct settings for comparison, but with the AA and and f-sync turned off, and particles etc lowered to nearer that of console it may well be on par or better, and if not then you made the wrong choice choosing that card instead of shopping around.

As for Alien Isolation etc and DX11, at some point some game publishers will pull support for lower DX versions rather than have both compatible, and maybe it's them that should be moaned at for their laziness or poor ports instead of the gfx providers unless it's just that time where it's time that you should upgrade your tech. I have a GTX 460, it's about 6 yeas old and was about £140 when I got it, and I'm running al the latest games. If I were to run at last gen specs then everything would run nice and smoothly at 720p with crippled settings still, but I like to run everything at 1080p, which I can do with settings on max for most games older than a couple of years. For the newer ones I'm not going to be able to run them as smooth and 'sexy' looking as the latest gen consoles, but I am able to tweak settings and lower them to something that runs well and will still look better than on the last gen consoles.
The added bonus is that I can play the last gen, and the latest gen games, as well as lots of far older games that consoles wouldn't have a chance in hell of running, all for nice cheap Steam prices which if compared to console prices and I put the money aside that I 'saved' (yes, buying lots of Steam sale games is never saving :/) I would easily be able to often upgrade to newer specs if I was that way inclined to avoid DX problems. One downside to that could be the CEX etc trade in prices for console games so you can more easily go through games without as much outlay, but I personally don't go through games too quickly so their value would be lost to make that venture worthwhile.
I didn't buy the best gfx card back then, and I didn't pay over the odds for it, and I didn't moan because someone mentioned a console, I said your comment about paying double the console price for a worthwhile gfx card was rubbish

Your gfx card came out five years after the xbox 360 was released, the fastest card you could get at the time the xbox 360 was released was the 7800 GTX (12/2005) which cost about £500 and hasn't been able to run anything for a long long time.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=26&cmp[]=1254


I wouldn't need to, that was my point, one every ~10 years is the current console cycle.


There already was a dx10 version, the xbox one, everything gfx wise was already setup as dx10, they just chose not give people that option.

Anyway, im sure we have better things to do the bicker about old gfx cards, have a nice day.

really good deal, this was on my steam wishlist :smiley:

Voted hot bought for my sons birthday thank you :sunglasses:

did you encounter any problems purchasing at all? thinking about buying but have never used the site before. PayPal preferred

paid by paypal, received and activated in Steam :smiley: