I don't think the OP could've done much more to make it as easy as possible for anyone to understand.

Still amazes me the amount of people who "don't get" contract lease hire. "Oh you're just wasting 4000 pounds and have nothing to show for it at the end" have you never heard of depreciation for gods sake.

Luck of the draw with used cars and with £4k in the hole if any big problems arise you can't exactly just scrap it like you can with bangernomics.

If you want a Qashqai then £4k will get something 7 years old with 100k+ miles, that's not something I'd want to be footing the bill for.

The money i have saved in the past 3 years has paid for holidays to Mexico, Jamaica and off to Thailand in a few weeks

Why go on these expensive holidays and end up with nothing to show for them when you can have a really great holiday far cheaper in the UK. Think, the money you save could buy you a new Qashqai every year.

Link seems broken. Anyone know if this deal is still available?

My Zonda destroys this 0-60 but im voting hot as i like the colour

Nope

Does anyone know whether you can take out the lease of behalf of someone else? I'm unable to obtain credit and my partner may purchase on my behalf. (He doesn't have a driving licence however...)

Thank you!

Tempted by this, but steel wheels ? :neutral_face:

All i can say is that you guys/gals must have had some bad luck with buying second hand cars.
Myself and wife both have a car on the drive and we haven't paid a penny either in finance nor breakdowns for over 3 years. We could sell both cars tomorrow for a total of about 6 grand.
In the past 3 years on a lease deal we would have paid over what our cars are now worth with nothing to show for it.
If you want to be a fake and your life needs to keep up with the Joneses, then carry on paying every single day for the rest of your life for something that will never belong to you... your choice.
The money i have saved in the past 3 years has paid for holidays to Mexico, Jamaica and off to Thailand in a few weeks... Happy Days :-)

PS, I'm stupid as well, but when i die at least i die knowing i have been happy

My holidays are bigger than yours.

People "complaining" others are 'trying to keep up with the Joneses' yet waggling their holiday lists at others.

of course new cars are safer, that doesn't change the fact that you are still more likely to die falling over while walking than in a car accident, regardless of what car you drive.

Plus of course there are loads of other improvements in road safety now than in the 80's. Collapsible barriers, re-profiled corners, removal of trees, speed limits, road signage etc etc.

Like I said, saying you won't drive an old car as it's 'dangerous' is stupid unless you go out in a padded suit and crash helmet every time you step out of the door because walking is dangerous too. Is it 'more' dangerous than riding a pushbike or motorbike on the road? No, it's not and thousands of people do that all over the world. Saying you won't drive an old car because it's dangerous is just ridiculous.

I personally think people are worse drivers these days as they think they are invincible in their 'cocoons' of supposed car safety.

Just to let the OP know, I have signed for this deal and will be delivered in April, so thank you for posting.

In the 80s there was half as many cars on the road as today and you were three times as likely to die in a car crash.

Do the maths, new cars in general are safer.

Real tears from Barbie.

My way is better for me, that's why i do it... you do it your way and be arrogant along the way (you can't help it, typical Cockney)

you mean just the once?


No

fairplay, i collect passport stamps rather than **** household goods as well. I have had 9 holidays in the past 36 months, and when i mean holidays i don't mean a night/weekend in Margate. Holidays/travelling is my life not renting cars. You seem to be the expert on this matter looking at this.... oh wait -100 degrees

I will now leave you alone to rest as i have another holiday to pack for... cheerio

A deal from hell that is lol! anyway, I'm surprised where did the tag xbox 360 come from:)?

Edit: Now I ruined it by clicking hot:(

Having said you don't want a car too big I'm not sure you would enjoy the Passat in the long term.
It's well over 15ft long with a long bonnet, I did a lot of miles in my fathers 2004 TDI and while it was a great motorway car the steering was quite meaty which meant it was a bit cumbersome on A-roads and around town. I was very tempted to have one of my own back in the day - it's spacious, well built and well equipped, but in the end I went for the Focus and I think it was the right choice at the time.
The newer ones should drive better, but still a big ol' thing.

Regarding the i30, the 1st gen was built from 2007 to 2011 and looks like this

2nd gen, 2011 onwards looks like this:


The cee'd appeared in 2006 and looked like this

then this in 2010 (they just changed the 'face' a bit)

Then this in 2012:


Take a look at used car guides from Autocar, Top Gear etc... they can be helpful, wikipedia also has useful articles for identifying the different generations and usually include dimensions too.

latest stats I can find quickly:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010#data

It's a fact you are more likely to die or be injured doing DIY or tripping over while out walking.....do you send your family out in padded suits and crash helmets each time they step out of the door? It's something like a 0.003 % chance of dying in a road accident in the UK (2000ish deaths out of a 64million population) and that includes pedestrians,cyclists and motorcycles.

I think a £3k Second Hand VW Passat will be just as safe to drive on the roads with all their features of this Nissan Deal. Off course Im not telling you what you should and shouldnt do with your money but if you want to get defensive then thats your choice. I'm just saying another way of looking at it is that you'll be paying for that peace of mind every month throughout your whole life if you want to keep a car on the drive.

​thanks a lot for all good suggestions. now a stupid question, how can i tell if an i30 or ceed is 1st gen or 2nd gen or what gen for other cars? i know i can ask. but sometimes itd be useful if i can recognize it on the advert.

True, I don't think your wife would fit in a sports car like mine.

I know iPhones cost the earth, but not even Tim Cook will be able to sell an iPhone priced up to the same level as a brand new Qashqai to the ISheep. He's good, but not that good.

What sort of condition am I expected to return the car in? It will be used for 2 years and 16 000 miles.

Being a family car, the stroller is going to scratch the boot and there will be biscuit crumbs in the back seats.

Is this considered normal?

Phuket, I might just go for this deal at that price.

Spoke to them, and pricing stated is for one colour only, metallic and pearl white are slightly extra per month, but not by much.

i30 is worth a look, remember it has an almost identical twin in the Kia Cee'd which should also be in budget. I've not driven the first gen, but was very impressed by the 2nd gen i30 - it feels quite small, light and easy to drive, especially on the small wheels. I went for a 2nd gen Cee'd in the end but i30 would've been my 2nd choice.

Previously had a 2005 Ford Focus Ghia for 7 years. Very comfy, quite well equipped and reliable. Rubber bushes tend not to survive much beyond ten years, I had to have one done and traded it in before anymore needed doing. I would probably not buy one that hasn't had them done already. It's a little bigger (4 inches longer and 2 inches wider - no jokes please :smirk: ) than the i30 and 'feels' bigger on the road (if that makes any sense) but good to drive still.
The petrol engines at least tend to be long lived, I had the 1.6 (engine developed by Mazda & Yamaha). Not a quick car, but suitable for shuffling back and forth to work.

Civic never floated my boat personally - had a decent test drive in a 2012 8th gen. I try to keep an open mind, but it just didn't do it for me.
Still, should be reliable, so worth looking at if you do like it.

One tip I have heard of, is that when ready to buy you should test drive an expensive example of the car you're looking for. Now drive the actual one you're thinking of buying - you will soon notice any differences.

Thing with a Lease car, you'll be paying a monthly sum forever to keep a vehicle on the driveway.

Personally prefer to have a decent valued car on the driveway that has history pointing to the fact it has been looked after and I wont have to replace it until it is costing me a fortune to keep on the road. £2k a year to keep up with the Jones? Nah, Im absolutely confident I could spend £2-3k on a vehicle which would keep me on the road at a reasonably minimal cost for the next 3-4 years.

But carry on :smiley:

Exactly.

Hmmm, hopefully my holiday in Phuket will be better than a holiday in Weston Super Mare cruising in my leased Qashqai...

Each to their own

Note I stated BUY a new Qashqai.
Anyway its a long way to go to these exotic places for happy memories when you will be just as happy holidaying in the UK.

I have many happy memories from my holidays, not sure if i would have the same happy memories driving around for a couple of years in an average car which isn't mine. Plus i would struggle to get a decent uk holiday with the mileage constraints they put on these lease cars

Cold.
I bought my XR3I for £1000, added a new exhaust, and in car media total cost £500. It's now worth at least £2,000, so I've made money, and drive around in a performance classic car.
Why lease? Waste of money.

After admittedly being initially sceptical about lease deals I can see they are a viable alternative if you are a person who changes their NEW car every three years before the MOT'S kick in and therefore perpetually paying monthly purchasing a new car.

These deals compare favourably as you are avoiding the same depreciation levels and the hassle of the trade in battle.

If you are handy with the spanners and EuroCarParts know you by your first name then spending the total amount of a 2 year lease deal on a 4 year old motor you intend to keep for 8 years makes sense.

It's just two different target markets.

As I couldn't afford to buy a new/nearly new car of the size I need then the later makes more financial sense to me.

Just don't confuse the two and it all makes sense.

I have a very very generous car allowance from my work. Leasing works for me. Not one for driving around in a £4,000 second hand banger. I'm sure a lot of people who so lease are in the same boat.

if it appreciates buy it. If it depreciates lease it. Cracking deal.

Suzuki tend to use Fiat diesels. Enough said.

Renault and Nissan own each other

Yup. Finance 101: Never buy a depreciating asset.

Think you need a Tardis mate. :smile:

Yep, but it just so happens most TVs will come with a 2 year warranty, and some with a 5 year one.

Its all about the numbers (and a little peice of mind).
Total lease cost + running costs VS total purchase cost + running costs

Whichever is the cheapest is the winner!

Sounds good. But so does the Volvo XC70 I just got on email... D4 SE LUX 5DR, 6+23 @ £203 per month. Oh, only 5k miles.

The Kia Sportage deal here http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/kia-sportage-1-6-petrol-1-lease-155-inc-vat-total-4675-2341326 (£194.80 effective cost per month) is also decent for an extra £18.20 per month (£194.80 - £176.60), but you also get 2,000 miles extra as it's a 10k deal rather than a 8k deal on the Nissan.

You have to weigh up if you thing the Qashqai or the Sportage is the better car and if the extra wedge per month is worth it.

You can review on http://www.nextgreencar.com/tools/comparison/ and compare, very useful tool

1.2 litre for a mini SUV? the americans would laugh at us. Their mail (postal) vans are probably more powerful. The ones that look like a noddy car

No they're not investing - they are financing on behalf of the manufacture. You didn't think Lease Brokers invested in the car did you? They wouldn't have the money for such a CapEx. They are finance houses; the manufacturer invests in the capital asset and then either leases it directly or through a broker. Like any secondary market, the broker makes a margin on the finance, not the CapEx of the vehicle. Their investment is marketing, web and staff.

And most motor manufacturers will tell you (not sure how true this is mind) that they make very little on the sale of the car but a lot more on the servicing (which is why they are so keen to make folk think that in order to maintain a warranty it has to be services at an authorised dealer - it doesn't and that is against EU law..).

Hope this clears up your misunderstanding.

Well thought through. However, there's two pertinent points.

1. Mazda make some of the most reliable cars on the road. Personally I find then extraordinarily dull, so I wouldn't lease or buy one. Alfas are exciting cars; I'd lease one but never buy one. In order for the comparison to work with these kind of running repairs, one would need to choose such a brand (Mazda, Honda) otherwise expect bigger or more frequent (or both !)repair bills.
2. As you point out, the comparison is ultimately fallacious becuase you're comparing the cost of owning a used car against a new one.

And over and above that, for people considering actually buying a car with cash (rather than a loan) you can't make the money work for you as it's all sunk into that depreciating asset.

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Err add the cost of the road tax, potential repair bills etc + the depreciation on the kind of car you can get for £4K and it doesn't really sound too bad.

The Renault dCi engine is, I believe, the most popular diesel car engine on the planet. It outsells other diesels many times over. Granted the original 1995 ones were poor but it stands to reason that you'll hear about more failures when there are more of them! Many people are driving Renault engines without even noticing it.

Mercedes use these in some of their cars. Are we to believe that Mercedes are therefore rubbish? I think not.

It's also worth noting that a dCi powered Renault came third in a reliability survey for a German car magazine.

Drive a Volvo? It's a Renault engine. Drive a Dacia? A Renault engine again. Drive a Nissan or Suzuki diesel? It's most likely a Renault engine. I could go on..

The supplier of these vehicles is investing in depreciating assets, and they make money doing so or their business wouldn't exist

People seem to get hung up on how they buy a vehicle though. The only real number to look at with vehicles is nett cost of ownership, this needs to be based on the actual cost of how it is financed. For instance my missus bought a 4 year old Mazda 3 for £5k, which will cost more like £5.5k with the loan costs. She plans to drive it for 4 years and the going rate for that sort of vehicle at 8 years is about £3k. On top of the £2.5k loss she will average say £300 a year in MOT and repairs, so the nett cost should be about £3.7k over 4 years. Despite investing in a depreciating asset it will cost less than half what this deal would over 4 years, that said she won't have a nice new motor. This is a good deal

Unless of course, they drive an 'old banger' while making millions out of property.

Have you got access to the Internet (also known as WWW)? If so, theres info on there that goes in to even more detail about what leasing is all about. If you struggle to get your head round it then maybe leasing just isn't for you, but please don't even consider contract purchase - that'll blow your mind !!

Toyotas have engine fires, BMWs have engine faults, Vauxhalls burn to the ground, Mercedes have electrical faults, do I need to mention Volkswagens ? Yet all I hear on this site is "Buy a French car and ooow *fist-shake* you'll regret it!"

It's just not that great a deal. £1,250 / year to lease incl servicing and I'd bite their hand off. £2,000/year+servicing just to own the new model, nahh.

What if your house develops subsidence? What if you chip a tooth and have to get treatment that the NHS won't cover?

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100

We're talking about a car that's more reliable that a Volvo C30 or a Ford Mondeo....

I always thought bigger cars had bigger engines :-/
I would never have knew this was a 1.2L & more like a 2.0L at least.

Can anyone tell me where you stand on scuffs, scratches, dents etc when you come to the end of the lease term? Will they go round it with a fine tooth comb and sting you for every little mark or is there a more robust process to it?

Well had 3 phonecalls from them about this lease, i wanted 1+23 months and been told for 30k (15k per year) 1+23
£207.34 PM INC VAT
£207.34 Initial Payment INC VAT
15000 MPA and then £400 processing fee? No idea if this is cheap..anyone who is good with leases tell me if it is?

To be fair it would be much easier if the rental term was explicit, 9+23 means nothing to someone like me who isn't overly familar with Contract Hire/Leasing deals. Still great effort and great deal..

No, they got rich by not buying depreciating assets and investing in appreciating ones. That's the point, but as you admitted in an earlier post on this thread, you are stupid.

The boss of Radio Rentals I would imagine?

Did anyone ever get rich through renting items?

Look's a good deal this, misses got the 2008 1.6 Diesel and is a fantastic car.

How quickly is delivery on these?

OP - very good find and very good post. Bonus points if I could give them for pointing out the 1+23 which is a rare profile.

Sadly, Nissan are not reliable anymore in my experience, and these Qashqai's are under powered across the range, although the 1.2Dig-T is smooth. There's just not enough torque in them for a big vehicle.

Still, great deal, heat added.

here we go......there's always one... I suppose you got rich tying up your capital in a depreciating asset did you?

Take a look at the civic then. Compact size but pretty spacious inside and has a big boot:) also reliable:) quite frankly though as far as i know, toyotas are good (so yaris would be a good choice but its a small car- maybe corolla?), i was looking at hyundai i30 myself and apparently it is good as well, but I didn't even test drive one so maybe better to read online. Most important to remember, check the car thoroughly and if you can, get it checked out by a local garage (you might have to pay some $$ to get it checked out but it is definitely worth it to make sure the car is in good nick).

Cheers,
Mat

All great choices, nice to hear you've had some good advice from sensible people rather than 'badge mugs'.

Recently got my first lease car, a Nissan Qashqai 1.5 dCi N-Tec+ and I love it! This is a great price.

+1

thanks. I will look it up. I going to use it with my family. Ideally I need it to be biggish or have a good size boot. But I also want it to be small, because I am not really confident driving big cars.

But surely it depreciates and can go bang at any time....

thanks. My instructors recommend me to buy a Suzuki swift. A uber driver tells me to buy a Toyota Yaris. I am thinking a Hyundai i30.

The Cactus deals a few weeks ago were much cheaper if price is your main concern

Either battery issue or clutch pedal problem which is documented on many QQ forums.

If you get a car allowance through work (and most of these lease deals need proof of that payment) then these work well. We have a 1.5 DCi Tekna QQ which is going back in April and has been a great workhorse and family car, it is fully loaded and is very comfortable .There have been a few niggles but nothing which Nissan Dealers couldn't sort out. The main grip is the diamond cut 19" alloys which kerb and crack so easily! Our deal was £245 a month with 10k miles pa and with a maintenance contract with Tilsun.

This deal even though it is the 1.2 Dig T petrol unit and poverty spec Visia model looks pretty good value really but I think I would miss the spec of the Tekna too much and the wife would just whinge about it. I might have to run the Maserati as a daily when it goes back!!!!

Do you all use Radio Rentals for your TV's

deal looks confusing.
so to summarise you pay £4,238 for 2 years .

The message on the display says "Start/Stop System Failure" but it only happens every so often and goes off after a couple of minutes, so it's either a failure or a really badly designed warning message (perhaps "Start/Stop System Unavailable" would have been better.

I have 3000 (3500) as my budget. Anyone can recommend me a car? I actually prefer to own the car rather than renting it.

Processing fee ? another word for how much more can we rip you off for ! They are trying to sell you a product and you have to pay a processing fee for the pleasure of buying it. :sunglasses:

Now i know, but i was young, stupid and excited to get my first car and back then i knew way less about cars than i do now. I guess its all part of the life experience to make terrible mistakes, like that one...:smiley:

If it's low pence per mile not a problem. If it's high and you'll likely go way over, negotiate more mileage on the lease, you'll pay a bit more but often not much per month. I have a Merc CLS shooting brake, 50k car, 12k per annum miles and it costs 4k per year over 2 years. It would probably have lost near 20 in depreciation.

£10k for medium spec 4 yr old Qashqai that will depreciate at £1,500 per year until you get rid of at 10 years old, with no mileage limit or damage obligation. +servicing (£300/year for 3 years, £500/year for 3 years)
vs.
£4k for medium spec new Qashqai, 8k mileage limit, +servicing (£200/year for 2 years) and repair obligations. Outlay: £2,000 per year+servicing.

Mathematically they can be the same but I would rather have a car where I don't have to worry every time I go on holiday that I'm going to blow my mileage limit or stress about how I'm going to repair that scratch before the lease is up.

For those talking about the engine, this is a special one with more power than the old 1.6!
For these that keep harping on about not owning, nothing to show etc the car is a depreciating asset. Go out and buy a new one if you want- you'll lose a lot more than 2k a year.

No big surprises there buddy, Honda cars are some of the most reliable out there, and are a definite 'safe bet' (though there will always be exceptions of course).

When you paid a garage £800 for the Corsa, what do you think they had paid for it, for it to be worth their while to sell for £800? £250 maybe?

If you only have £800 to spend on car, the golden rule is to buy privately - this way you will actually get an £800 car, not a £250 one.

We have one. 1.2T is fine but if you come off the turbo at low revs the car has no power at all which can catch you out. It also runs out of puff when overtaking.

Steering and controls are very very light, chassis is actually quite stiff not much rolling around the corners which you might expect from a tallish car.

Fuel consumption in the real world is not bad but really nothing spectacular - mid 40s with mixed driving.

Interior might feel a bit cheap depending what sort of car you're coming from. Seats are pretty firm, not all that great on longer jouneys.

Try before you buy/lease would be my advice.

I totally agree with a gamble part. 2 summers ago i bought my first car- 54 plate 1.0 corsa from a local garage with 90k miles on the clock. It was cheap at 800 quid and small engine seemed perfect to improve my driving skills etc. In one year of owning the car i have spent nearly a grand on fixing it, and it ended up on the scrap yard. Last summer i bought another one- 07 plate 1.8 honda civic sport with 30k miles on the clock, one lady owner, all past history, all invoices since the car was purchased, etc. I paid for it 4000 but other than petrol and screenwash, i have not spent a penny on the car (excluding cleaning air refresher etc).

By saying that yeah it is a big gamble buying a used car, but i think if you are careful and examine the car, you can get a fantastic ride for not a loads of dollars. I did not pay attention with corsa, as i thought local garage wouldnt be a cheat, but i did my research with honda and most importantly i got the car checked out before buying.

Regarding leasing, i see the obvious benefits but one cant forget about drawbacks. Milage constraint is one of them as you have to pay extra if you excess the 8k, imagine doing 16k in 18 months and then youd either pay loads extra to carry on driving, or leave the car in the garrage for half a year. Also im pretty sure they charge for scratches and dents etc, even if you are a great driver, not all peeps around are and they can accidentally damage your car when parked or so, thwn you are stuck with the problem. Just some points to consider:)

music from the tv ad is......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLT5krv_6c

It's probably not failing, it's probably 'made the decision' not to stop, because starting again in bad conditions could be detrimental to the battery etc.

Newsflash: a 2 year old 40,000m car is worth a less than a 16,000m one

This is the only reason it costs more/less when you select different mileage allowances, the Contract Hire company don't ask for more purely because they are evil.

When are people going to realise that Qashqai sized SUV's are essentially 5 door hatchbacks 'on stilts'.

This is around 100kg heavier than a Focus (i.e. equivalent to having one extra 'cuddly' passenger), it's not a Hummer!

I am stupid...

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying people who say things like "Why would I spend 4 grand on a car that I won't own at the end" are a bit stupid. The vast majority of people (which I suppose is why it's called an average) only do between 8-10k miles per year. With this being the case contract lease is an option IF you want to drive a new car.

​Double check its 5p per mile for all 10k extra miles. Most companies charge a small fee for the first twenty percent, 2k miles on a 10k lease. Then it's normally a hefty sum for anything over.

Not saying it's definitely the case for you but I know some lease companies do this.

I've never had a lease car but looking into it, do they usually include insurance or road tax? Thanks

^Tekna.

I disagree. I've got a 1.5 Telna on lease (10k/year) and I'm likely to double my contract mileage due to a change of job. My excess mileage is 5p/mile so over the contract term, it'll cost me an extra £1k which is cheaper than the monthly increase for the extra miles.

Excess mileage fees vary wildly so do check carefully.

The only problem I've had with my QQ is the stop start failing in wet/cold weather which I'm going to report to Nissan but I'll be more critical now I've read of other people's problems.

Still amazes me the amount of people who "don't get" contract lease hire. "Oh you're just wasting 4000 pounds and have nothing to show for it at the end" have you never heard of depreciation for gods sake.

I knew the 1.0 ecoboost and twin air was poor mpg, but assumed it was limited to those. I have a 1.8tfsi and although it drinks the juice around town (<35mpg) I'm getting over 45mpg regulary on longer trips.

Just stating the obvious, cars go wrong, some are lemons, some are just not looked after. The fact is, the more miles, the older the car the odds of failure increases.

On the used market you've got no idea how a car has been treated, yes you can narrow the odds down by using your wits but that only gets so far. It's a gamble, at least with leasing new you've got almost worry free driving fro a fixed amount each month.

​I thought the same till I owned one. but the engine just doesn't have enough power to deal with the cars weight until the turbo kicks in, meaning you tend to rev a little higher than you would otherwise so that you're using the turbo as much as possible. mpg suffers as a result.

Agreed. Fussy folk on here

Yep, leasing is a good option for many people that would normally buy and sell a new car every couple of years and also have less than average mileage needs as it is relatively hassle-free and they would usually lose more than the cost of the two-year lease in depreciation alone when selling anyway.

Its not luck of the draw at all, use your brains and check the car out first

you just don't hand the money over till your ok with your purchase, who made you the Car guru ?

I agree with you, very surprising and a Focus at 1.0 is no comparison and for the small bit extra you might as well have a 1.5 or 1.6

not every car in the country is for the "school run", some are used by people who actually work for a living !

:wink: looks good to me.... heat

And you don't have the headache of breakdowns, finding garages for repair etc along with the bills that buying a used car usually entails. Your road tax is paid as well. Obviously if your budget is £1000 leasing is not for you, but say if you're thinking of spending 8K on a vehicle purchase you would be lucky if it's worth £4000 after 3 years + add the cost of potential repairs, car tax, the hassle of finding a buyer etc and leasing a mid-range vehicle like this becomes rather appealing.

Sad nowadays that people just rent crap cars for a couple of years then dispose of them without a thought. I grew up in the 80's when owning a car really meant something, if people came too near it without asking it was considered same as looking at your missus funny or spilling your pint in the pub.

What is a processing fee? Sounds like paying somebody to do the job you are paying them to do anyway

​Most people spend 2k a year on there car weather by fixing up there car, bad fule consumption and deprivation or leasing a car and having nothing else to pay other than the re payments

It's only the same as the depreciation from buying, unless you run bangers.

My wife's/our family car is probably worth £12k now if we're lucky, we paid £32k for it 5 years ago, which is pretty much £4K a year. If we keep it for another 5 years then we may do better but things are starting to wear on it now so will need maintaining more soon.

Why lease? Because the car companies can't sell these particular models and don't want to drop the rrp. So, the customer gets an odd car at a bargain price. Everyone's happy! Leasing a popular model generally far more expensive and therefore self-ownership more logical for most.

Depends. If £4250 is half your salary then yes, if £4250 is just over two weeks wages then I don't see the problem.

Exactly! House appreciate whereas cars generally depreciate quite a bit so not the same thing at all.

If you rent a home, the landlord pays for repairs etc and you have not a lot to show for it at the end of your term. Some people prefer to rent and others prefer to own

It's the same with cars - hassle free motoring versus equity / value to show for the expenditure

I really like the look of the new X trail. Gonna go have a look at the weekend see the difference in size. These are such popular cars and this looks like a good value to me. I currently have a Nissan Leaf bought from a deal on here - very happy with nissan so far

I agree with the annoying creaks, rattles & parking sensors with a mind of their own along with the overtaking warning lamp randomly flashing in wet weather. I've owned one for two years, generally a good car, but the small niggles are a right pain. There is plenty of discussion about them on the owners forums. I don't suppose any car is perfect though.

Madcow

Apart from 2 years of driving a brand new car, no road tax to pay, no MOTs, probably no tyre changes, and very little chance of breakdowns or problems. Not saying leasing is always the best financial option, but if you want to drive a brand new car for a couple of years, then it's nearly always more financially economical to lease.

good deal. .qashqai is a good looking car unlike that ugly duckling juke.

It does have a turbo bolted on somewhere. As most of these will be used for the school run it's the perfect engine. Ford have been selling the Focus for a few years with a 1.0 and that can't be massively lighter.

Those who do the miles would go for the diesel.

It was the fact that such a big hulk of steel was specified with a 1.2 litre engine that surprised me. Poverty spec to the extreme

What is it? A 1.2 litre SUV????

Luck of the draw with used cars and with £4k in the hole if any big problems arise you can't exactly just scrap it like you can with bangernomics.

If you want a Qashqai then £4k will get something 7 years old with 100k+ miles, that's not something I'd want to be footing the bill for.

Does it come with a blindfold

You will never have a lot of cash if you keep 'renting' a car
£4,250 paid over 2 years then nothing to show for it...

Buy a car for that amount and in two years time you still own something worth a fair bit.

Can recommend v4b, and this looks like a really good deal.

I believe the good advice is get GAP insurance and see if the GAP insurance covers your initial down payment as well, (in this case £1090.69) otherwise you could be well out of pocket if you have an accident!

http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/car-leasing-guide/gap-insurance.php

I would have thought the opposite applies. Surely a smaller engine would be more efficient on short trips and during rush hour as it warms up quicker and burns less fuel when idling.

Larger engines generally excel when munching miles at a constant speed.

The list on this model is over £18k and it comes with steel wheels.
Steel wheels! Have they let one of the Dacia accountants loose on it?

What is rental profile?

Great deal.
I pay £280 a month for the 1.5 diesel Tekna via work for my fiancé and have to say it's a lovely vehicle but has loads of issues. It creaks under load (back to Nissan next week to fix again - 3rd time) sensors go off randomly (had a recall to fix but still goes off like a lose cannon) and the air noise on a motorway is awful (again a recall). Also feel it is underpowered due to size as well.
I have a Fiesta and have have no issues with it. Poss a one off but a proper pain the the posterior this Qashqai of mine.

1.2T is fine if you're not a racer and do steady Eddie A-road driving. But it's not suitable if you live somewhere hilly.

There are no guts in the petrol engine my friend has one

great deal for a family car lease, my wife is currently paying this much to lease a micra... I know which I'd rather be driving!

looks good :smiley: