That's £200 cheaper than Moto are selling it for and £150 cheaper than Tesco. This is hotter than a hot cross bun that has been dropped in a volcano. Cheers.

FFS, I bought the Moto X Style 2 weeks ago for £330, bloody CPW.

There is a simple solution for this.

Once upgraded to latest Marsmallow (Android 6.0) do this:
Power down the phone
Once powered down
Press volume down and power button (at the same time) until you see android logo and full phone spec.
press volume down to select "Recovery Mode" then confirm by pressing power button
Motorola logo will show up, than android logo with text "no command"
now pres at the same time volume up and power button - if nothing happens try it again until you see "Android Recovery" with couple of options.

Press volume down 4x times to select "Wipe Data/Factory Reset"
confirm by pressing power button.
Press volume down twice to select "userdata+ personalized content"
confirm by power button.

Once done
Repeat procedure but this time select "Wipe Cache partition"

Power up your phone, set it up, run all of the updates from play store etc
New / reset android phones do some stuff in background for first couple of hours so it could be still laggy for a while.

After a while you can enjoy lag free super fast phone. - tested myself just now on Moto X Force from CPW.

Solution works on most of the android phones - not just this one.

Obviously... this will delete all of the personal data and settings and will leave yours phone in the "out of the box" condition.

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One more thing that speed up android phones
Go to:Settings >About Phone
Scroll down
Click 5-7 times
Go back and you will see just activated "Developer Options"
Click on it and find:
Window Animation Scale
Transition Animation Scale
Animation Duration Scale

Change all of them to "Animation off"

As you may thought this just turns off "nice" animations - while opening, closing app etc.
But speeds up opening time so the phone is much more responsive.

Couple of pics of the brotect applied to my moto x force. They really are very good. I popped out the cut-outs for the sensors, microphone and speakers (you can bend the glass to raise the edge and put a small blade under to pop them out.

I always fit mine in a cold kitchen, lay some sheets of kitchen paper on the table and then spray them with water/dettox to keep any dust in the area trapped, alcohol wipe the screen and wipe with dry screen cloth.

To align it I use the hinge method - two sticky tabs on the back of the phone that then flap over and stick to the screen protector when it is perfectly aligned.

fold the protector away from the screen a quick final clean and blast with air can (£1 in poundland :wink: )

Peel the backing from the protector and then flip onto the screen - perfectly aligned and dust free (hopefully!)

Then remove the alignment tabs and push out the last few bubbles.

Perfect. Very satisfying :smile:

​glad you got sorted seems to be very hit and miss for us all :smile:

I tried for ages with both of these methods but couldn't get to the recovery menu. Finally discovered the key to it (on mine at least) is while holding the POWER button just give the VOL UP a single quick press.

If anybody is having problems like myself trying to get access to recovery this may help as well

When you see the dead android press and hold power key and vol up for about 3 seconds then let go of volume key but keep pressing power. Hopefully you will see recovery options

What cases and how much are you selling them for

Crap phone returned it. Overheats, fugly and too damn big. Stuck with 2 cases I bought on ebay now though.

Can you post in here guys ?.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/motorola-moto-x-force-owners-club-2395141

No led solution. As this is amoled display shouldnt drain battery. Led notification alert

yeah some are friendly but the two shops in my town I shudder even just walking past them. This time I avoided them two and went to another not too far away and they where great but asking about the Force they didnt even know about them or even seen one in the flesh. The one I got was sealed and she didnt even know it was in stock. Strange though as maybe they arent getting told to push them or just no call for them hence the price drop just to get shut of some.

To be fair, the service was friendly and achieved what I needed (replacement phone, refund also offered). I went into the main store near me to be told the bad news - they had none in stock, but the good news, the near by PC World has a CPW inside and has 2 in stock. I shuddered at the thought of having to go to/deal with PC World, but thankfully again the CPW staff there were really good. I mentioned it's a common fault and there's a lot online covering it, but he wasn't too interested in that to be honest. The guy I spoke to said he'd only ever sold one Force as it's not a phone they even keep on display, and so he hadn't seen any others back there.

Thanks.

I've just had my faulty 'green line' version replaced for a new Moto X Force in store. Shrink wrapped box this time too (left on by store). Let's see if this is so quick to fail!

Mine was online. Their T&Cs say they will swap/refund/repair if you take it instore.

Good stuff. I'm going to head over soon - not sure if I will accept new phone or ask for refund.

Did you purchase in store or online? Mine was online, so not sure if they'll be weird about this.

Woohoo... new phone and green free :smile:

Disappointed that the girl in the shop took the shrinkwrap off though. That's what I was looking forward to most :disappointed:

Does everyone else have a very small hole in the ballistic nylon about a cm from the bottom just to the right of centre?

I thought it was a pull in the fabric to start with but not sure now.

I've had mine for around 6 weeks now and I'm quite pleased with it. It's not going to be for everyone, it's chunky with a large bezel, no led, no fingerprint reader and isn't exactly a looker. But, coming from an lg g3 that looked nice, small bezel and high screen to size ratio, led notification, beautiful screen and excellent camera, I'd take this because it does exactly what it says on the tin. The g3, despite the positives mentioned, was just so unreliable, laggy and frustrating, which makes owning the x force a breath of fresh air. I'm not convinced the x force has a screen as nice as the g3 (although I never got to compare them side by side), or if the camera is any better (although it is better than the other half's z3 compact, which I'm very disappointed with), but it does feel better made, has much better battery life, moto have integrated some very nice touches (camera, torch gesture launch etc), the screen and camera are still very good, it doesn't lag, has wireless and turbo charging built in and, in short, it works. I'm quite happy with the lack of led, it's something else I don't need to turn on or off at night, and the lg had this really annoying battery full notification sound which was a nuisance to turn off. I would never say it's the best phone on the market, but it certainly feels like it's going to stand the test of time. Whether moto back that up by providing sufficient software support remains to be seen, I'd be very disappointed if it didn't get android N at some point. At £300 I think it's a steal (or was a steal), it may be a bit big for some but other's have also made big phone's with a similar sized screen (how does this compare in size with the z5 premium?). It's not beautiful, but it's certainly a beast.

Apparently it's got 5 mics so those holes are probs for them

Oh, its defiantly good to have different opinions. I hadn't noticed the yellowish screen, but doing a back to back with the other half's phone, yes, its there. But how often am I doing back to back checking? It won't bother me. The Screen to body ratio is fine for me, as is the weight. But then I like a phone with a bit of heft and I realise its not for everyone.

My last phone I broke dropping from around 2ft. So the shatterproof screen is a real must for me.

We will agree to disagree on stereo separation. I used to own a Hi-Fi shop and like to think it's one of the few things I actually know about. Or I've just been spoiled. Who knows. But if it sounds better to you, that is all that maters. I just can't listen to music on any phone speaker.

I still can't get over how simple and useful chop chop torch is.

Size comparison Force vs my Note 3

Here, here and here

Although I only used the Force for a week, that was enough for me to come to my conclusion.

I didn't comment on the software at all, so the Moto stuff can be useful but not significant enough for me to value it above what I consider to be hardware and design failings.

Personally I didn't like the notification system. I missed a notification LED. I currently use a Z3 and I can glance from a distance or when my hands are full and depending on the colour flashing I can tell what's come in. No LED flashing means I don't have to check my phone at all. On the Force, I often moved toward it to activate the screen only to find out there were no notifications anyway. This is a minor issue and YMMV.

I found the camera launching quite good (holding the dedicated camera button down on my Z3 is not much slower to be honest though), but what was important to me was the end result and I found the photos to be only average at best. I tried different apps, which helped but not by enough of a degree. The camera on the Force does not come close to the best ones out there. TBH it wasn't much better than the one on my old Note 3.

I'll give you the chop chop torch one, that's useful.

Battery is good, but not class leading. 18 month old Z3 still gets 5.5 hours screen on time and 48hr battery life (and is waterproof, but that's not being discussed here)

I genuinely found the screen dim, especially on adaptive mode. Outdoor visibility in bright sunshine was nothing special (certainly not up to Galaxy standards, and the yellowy screen didn't help with white contrast)

The mono speaker is acceptably loud at full volume, but that level brought some distortion. I disagree about the stereo separation point you made, although the effect is slight I still think it is effective. At the very least it offers a bit more clarity (to my ears at least).

On the screen strength, that (as I said) is undoubtedly it's USP, however it's disappointing that the top surface is so prone to scratches and scuffs. I'm not concerned about choosing to use a tempered glass protector on my phones, but on the Force it seems necessary.

I also agree that there's no perfect phone atm, my Z3 for example is a fragile and slippery glass-backed device and the web is littered with stories of cracking. I use mine with a discreet lanyard, which has helped ensure I don't drop it (it's also handy to get the phone out of a pocket). I tried the Force because the appeal of a shatterproof screen and a promised jump in specs across the board seemed to make sense. It didn't pan out for me however for the reasons mentioned.

What about the screen size to body ratio I mentioned? It's almost as big as a 5.7" Note 4. What about the yellowy cast on the screen, you didn't mention that either.

Finally, I thought the very deep speaker grills on the front will harbour pocket-grunge and the gap around the edge would do the same too.

I enjoy an open forum where people can share experiences, opinions and thoughts. We may not agree on this device, but we might agree on the next.

My comments might polarize, but could be useful to others :wink:

Although this deal is a good reduction from the original price,I would avoid it or return it for the following reasons;

The handset is almost Galaxy Note sized, but with a smaller screen.

The camera is only average at best

The screen tint is yellow

It has an underpowered mono speaker

The screen scratches too easily so needs a protector

The screen is fairly dim

There's a potential green line fault

It's heavy

Don't be tempted by the price reduction, judge it in its own right.

I think its a bit of a duffer, and I expect the price to nosedive.

IMO the only USP's are the shatterproof screen and the battery.

I don't think the battery life is best in class, so it really just comes down to how likely you think you are to drop it hard enough or from high enough to crack a conventional screen.

Very pleased with mine, seems like there's issues with most of the handsets I liked (eg LG G4 motherboard issue) so I'll stick with the Force and let JL sort it out if I have a problem.

That thatThat may be a valid point for some, but benchmarks aren't the be all and ends all IMO. I think performance plateaued about a year ago.

I'd rather have an amazing bright screen, high screen to body ratio and an awesome camera than something that opens Angry Birds a millisecond quicker than everything else

Assuming mine does not 'go green' it is a keeper - came from a 6 inch huawei ascend mate 7 and that had begun to cloud on the whites.
That was a phablet really and although it was nice and slim, I actually like the chunky feel of the X Force in comparison.

My 30 day window for full refund finishes on the 5th March, anyone going to take a bet on the 6th March for my green line :laughing:

I hope ur new one behaves better

​Hard to say.... After having marshmallow for a few weeks on my x play I can see it feels like a polished lollipop more than anything.

As to sd storage.... I may have been wrong. I've chosen to keep the sd as external. Some apps still have a move to sd option. My guess is its still the non supported option it always was by developers.

So some apps may move, but more than likely not. Having internal does allow for all apps to be stored. But this does mean it's encrypted and cannot be used outside of the phone. Also, if it fails, it sounds like it'd **** your phone.

I'd look into can the sd be backed up of set as internal. If the answer is no the I'd be concerned.

I wrote a comment on here a few days ago about the green line issue, that's what sadly put me off getting the phone as I didn't want to deal with that problem as from reading forums it seems that Motorola won't accept its a problem and many people worldwide have now had the issue, even people getting new replacement phones have had the same issue a few days/weeks later, not good

I don't have the green line but as I was told I could return within 14 days am I worrying too much. Should I take it back for a refund explaining there could be a hidden problem waiting to reveal itself or just wait and see. Decisions, decisions.

I wrote a comment on here a few days ago about the green line issue, that's what sadly put me off getting the phone as I didn't want to deal with that problem as from reading forums it seems that Motorola won't accept its a problem and many people worldwide have now had the issue, even people getting new replacement phones have had the same issue a few days/weeks later, not good

Oh, and another question to the Android gurus out there - can you downgrade 6 to 5?

Is it easy?

Any good tutorials on how to do it?

Maybe, but in our case I noticed all green liners are talking about taking the phones back to CPW - nobody mentioned JL so far ...

Is it worth upgrading to 6 (from 5.1.1) in this case (if you want to use removable internal storage) ?

I guess they were hammered by their price match and backed off :smiley:

For the future reference - I was wondering what is going to happen to those price matches that where sent through email in response to "if you haven't purchased it yet" - they said in the email that I would have 28 days to purchase it from them - what is going to happen in a case like this that the product disappears from the site?

Anybody knows (had similiar experience)?

Could this be CPW issue (I mean CPW batch - maybe that was the reason they were so cheap in CPW in the first place)?

Anybody from JL has the same problem?

So far I haven't had a problem (bought in JL) but my phone just laying down since purchase so not sure if I would not "trigger" the problem when I start using it/carying around (still waiting for the screen protector :smiley:)

caverncity - as you say, if I press top the top left of the bottom right speaker the line goes whilst I'm holding down. Let's hope CPW/Motorola do not suggest this as a 'fix' :confused: Might go back to my trusty Moto X Play.

Just hope Motorola dont say its a go faster stripe.


My details same as above. clutching at straws I found as do others the usb charger to be a very tight fit, I am wondering if it has anything to do with it, as in wiggling it about to get it in as apparently those with the green line if you press the bottom of the screen it goes. Probably hasnt got anything to do with it and just another design issue.

When I bought mine in the shop I was told the 14 days returns applies as well as buying it on line.

Same details for me too

I think getting onto some of the bigger forums where many are reporting the same problems might be a good idea. The more noise that gets made, the better... Motorola need to admit a design fault or whatever. It's not fit for purpose, one doesn't fork out for their top of the range phone, then if it develops a green line be told that it is what it is, phone is usable etc. Wrong!
How am I going to explain this one to the wife later ... "Well, you may or may not get a green line across your screen at some point..." .. if it does happen, I want it to happen within the first 10 days.
The Worlds first unbreakable phone... with a green racing stripe... nice!

Identical for me....

Model: XT1580 (kinzie_reteu)
Manuf: Motorola
Board: msm8994
HW: qcom


Really in disbelief about this! I should be able to get into CPW tomorrow, sure I'm in for a fun time. I purchased online.

I'll check the box for any manufacturing week/factory info etc later.

Unfortunately... I can't tell you!

Okay, now you're all worrying me! :confused: Maybe we should start tracking specs of people who get this issue?
Get CPU-Z installed, you can get all the info about the internals there.
Eg for me:
Model: XT1580 (kinzie_reteu)
Manuf: Motorola
Board: msm8994
HW: qcom

Not sure what other tabs might be important.

Hope they get it sorted for you. On a side note, I ordered the Brotect screen protector that was mentioned on here. Dispite Amazon saying it cold be 3 weeks for delivery, they were dispathched today and I will have it on Monday.

Looks to be hardware, and from what I can see, the line is always in the same place. Go for a straight replacement asap... though if you can, go to a store with the phone in stock!

Yep, I told the woman in the shop and she said the seal shouldn't have been broken. Box was pretty grubby too.

​oh gosh, that is not good. hardware issue I'm afraid. back to store and ask for new one or full refund. was your one in shrink wrap and had seal intact?

Mine had a security seal but was not shrink wrapped :disappointed:

Anyone else suffering the big green line down the screen?

Mine was also shrink wrapped and sealed. Ordered online and delivered by DPD

Both mine were also shrink wrapped, and had the security seal intact.Something sounds fishy with your one all round. I think when you go pick up your new one, make sure it is in that state also, tell them you've spoken to 3 people with these, all were shrink wrapped and sealed on the box, explain the one you got wasn't.

Oh yes, poop - forgot they put the price back up :disappointed:

Will be pushing for a new one then when mine gets its stripe :confused:

Gonna happen now, I can feel it in my bones - we are all doomed I tell ya!


Just kidding **crosses all fingers and toes** the rest will all be perfectly fine

Yea, I did wonder if it was a display model or something, but it was an online order...

​Thanks. so I'm guessing I could get one in the car to turn the Bluetooth on for the hands free.

​mine was fully sealed and shrink wrapped. maybe they had opened it in store for someone to look at as not all CPW had them on display.

Ah, not so smug there though, they've put the price back up! I'm not convinced about the wife tbh, I think she enjoys the peace and quiet!

One thing I did notice when I received the phone on Monday was that the seal was already broken... anyone else have the same? The phone appeared ok upon inspection though so although I was a little concerned, it didn't look to be a real problem and I was happy with it as it was... in hindsight, I should have probably queried it then!

I assume this fault is like most of the tech gear problems people Google - always hundreds of posts regarding problems, but the other 3 million happy users never post about how well the thing is working.

I have my positive head on today, but I can feel that I will be trembling each time I approach the phone soon enough :smile:

After a little bit of fuss (and attempting but failing to run diagnostics) they agreed an exchange. Annoyingly they had none in stock though, and insisted they had to take mine there and then, so I'm without a phone till tomorrow. I'll have to talk to the wife this evening I guess.

I've not had much time to play with them, but so far, I've a tag to switch to vibrate, each time touched it changes to normal or vibrate. So that one is next to my PC, if I start any conference calls I just touch it to that, when done, touch again. Also set one for my kid, she's stuck it somewhere at work, so when she arrives she touches it, goes to silent. And will work with any NFC phone, not just the one. I believe you can do a lot more on them, I tested creating and setting an alarm, which works, but it would only activate the 1st, and at the same time create a new one each time. I'll try the weekend I guess with various apps like Tasker etc. All new to me too. Probably will land up just using the one always as the fade passes.

Ditto wish I hadnt looked now, its like when someone says "dont look behind but its the Police" got me a little bit worried now, just debating on returning it but its a great phone.

Holy Sh..!! Why'd you tell me not to go google that... knowing full well I would! :confused: :-P
This looks like to be quite a serious common problem then. I'm thinking its related to the screen contacts somehow, some people saying it comes and goes, some if squeezing the screen. Wonder if its batch related somehow, seems pretty random too, after a week of use, 3 weeks.. but does seem to happen not long after owning. Fingers crossed it doesnt!

Cheers for your help guys. Off to sort it now... will report back later!

Do not google the green line problem then :smile:

​I will be getting Cardboard soon. Being a bit of a tech dullard, what do you do with the NFC tags? I know what NFC is, but not sure what you can do round the home with them. cheers.

Oh, yes and (as RFC1795 said) if it was purchased on-line (paid on-line) and you have collected from the store then you have 14 days to return for any reason.

If you reserve and then pay in-store the 14 day distance selling regs do not apply (I think) - but you do have the 2015 30 day full refund policy to fall back on.

The problem is, I wouldn't want a refund :disappointed: ... I would want a new phone. This is the best phone I've ever owned, loving it. This is why I threw it around, to make sure it meets up with expectations. If anything was loose or such it would have shown up then I recon. Lets just hope it was a one off dud and we don't see this happening a lot out there.

Consumer rights act 2015

Consumer rights - money saving expert

Consumer rights - BBC

I would. It is only a week or so old, yes? I would not accept a repair - if they say no to a new one then tell them you want a full refund.

New consumer rights law came in on 1st Oct 2015 - you have the right to a full refund for up to 30 days from the point of sale.

Tell CPW you are exercising your rights under the 2015 consumer rights act to a full refund for faulty goods within 30days and write them a letter if required.

They can't refuse within the first 30 days, it is now law.

Yup, just appeared this morning. Rang CPW, they said to take it to my nearest store who will run diagnostics and send it away for repair... I'm allowed to demand a replacement, right?

Picked mine up yesterday, was a little put of by the colour of the whites (slightly green/yellow, it rinds me of my nexus s) but I think I can get over that. Does anyone know if you need to register anything for the 4 year guarantee? I don't want to break it in three years just to get a computer says no response when I ask for a replacment.

Thanks for the info but maybe I misunderstood what you were talking about - what I referred to was the amazing features :smiley:

"This phone continues to amaze me, things I never had before and couldn't do on old phone, I now can with this... still playing about with NFC tags."

Thanks again :smiley:

Not sure of materials, you can get the orginal which you build, cardboard and some lenses. I just went through Amazon checking for 2 that I could try. If good, I'll consider getting the plastic better made ones :wink:

I've installed this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.samples.apps.cardboarddemo&hl=en
And the Cardboard Camera https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.vr.cyclops to make own virtual vids. Also a bunch of other apps in readiness.

Also, have a look through youtube for 'google cardboard' .. should give you a general idea of what it can do.

The response time of the camera is very good too - tap, click, done - fraction of a second.

Very pleased, especially now the damn screen protector is staying put :smile:

Could you list some of these features or give some links to materials on them, please? :smiley:

You all ordered some variant of 'Google Cardboard' VR head sets as yet? ... Have 2 different ones arriving tomorrow :smiley:
Will report back once I've test driven them. This phone continues to amaze me, things I never had before and couldn't do on old phone, I now can with this... still playing about with NFC tags. Fun!

German ones orders. ta

Not sure about the curve but they do lift at the top and bottom if they are not right. The flexible glass one will solve the issue.

Not so great. There is some bubbling at the top and bottom of screen - as feared(?) I thought the curve of the screen mentioned would be side to side, but it's expected top to bottom, right?

I'm ordering the German ones now :sunglasses:

I thought it went without saying that I meant pertinent to the issue ie what phone etc. That said it is useful advice. Much obliged.

Missed out. Nearly ordered when in bed but fell asleep. Checked this morning and the deal is over.
Might get the Oneplus 2 now or wait for significant Nexus 6P price drop.
Any advice?

Expired with an hour of the sale still to go , now £479.99 !

i have chinese xiaomi, zero issues with sensor) unlocking in moments)

Talking best techniques for applying the screen protector.....

Do you reckon if I line up the glass protector using the tape/hinge method, then whip off the printed factory film and put the glass straight down that would work?

In other words is the screen as clean as it's never going to get while the printed film is still in place?

Super hot, this must be one of the most durable smart phones ever built, I imaging Otterbox don't bother making a case for this one? :smile:

brotect glass protector that RFC1795 and myself fitted is about the best you will get I think - very good quality glass protector and has the flexibility to bond with the X force screen. Most plastic protectors should be ok, but there do seem to be a few that have issues too.

Manufactures sometimes design in a shallower port to allow for better compatibility with cases and docks - seems sensible to me.
USB ends that touch the outer shoulders to the case always make me wonder if they have actually seated correctly and they often will not allow all cases to accept a charging cable.

:smiley:

protectionfilms24.com/article/2x-brotect-matte-screen-protector-motorola-moto-x-ce-1914418.html

From what I gather that would be the only difference between the two?

Thanks

Not sure which one you're referring to in the 'see bellow' .. no link. ... All I can say, is the one I fitted is clear, clear as glass. Made not change to image quality or tones.

Just checked the wifes one.I would say it has under 1mm gap.. 0.7mm I'd say.. so it is pretty close to what you have there in the image.

It isn't flush ! Screen quality is poor and I've experienced it with the Moto G2 , but adaptive brightness doesn't work ?! Perfect on 1st gen!

Thanks for the reply!

Do you know if the other one (see below) would have better "visibility"/clarity ?

I think I would prefer better clarity over the "anti-break" screen protector (since that's built in)

Thanks. The connection is in properly, just not flush to the phone as in the pic. In fact, even using the supplied lead from the X Force with my X Play it's the same, so not an issue.

Ha, less karate chopping, more shaking please. At least you don't have to worry too much about dropping it whilst trying!

Ordinary chargers are much easier to insert though, hth

​I have 2 turbo chargers and find them both stiff to insert, the moto charger sits similar to the one pictured not sure on the anker as it's downstairs and I'm too lazy to check

As Bisto said, go for the one he linked before... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018SKUWPQ .. We both have them, and highly recommend. Description says X Force and it fits perfect.
The ones you've linked don't really cover the screen fully. Look at the cut-outs they show there.

I found it very stiff on both our Force's ... you really have to push it hard to get in.. try that.
As for loose buttons, can't say I noticed any really... I shook it now and the flash turned on and off :-D

any of these two protectors is good, anybody knows ?

amazon.co.uk/dp/product/B017C8POJE

amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017C9QTHY

Also on my X Play. Haven't powered the X Force up yet.

If you're willing to root you could use something like Kernel Aditutor to adjust the colour.

Does the Settings > Display menu have 'Colour Mode' option to select between 'Normal' and 'Vibrant' - either make the issue better?

Can anyone confirm if the USB connection not sitting flush is normal? Photo here.

The Moto X Play had a loose volume rocker button - you could hear it if you shake the phone, and more feel it through use. The Moto X Force seems to suffer the same with its power button - do others have this?

I loved my Moto X 2nd gen. Untill I left it on the roof of my car last night. By the time I found it it had been run over. So the X Force at this price was rather fortuitous. Got it instore at CFW/Curry's Fosse Park Leicester. It was the last one.

can anyone who bought the x force confirm whether this is dual sim or not? some reviews say it is and others just don't mention it. thanks

Right, wireless chargers. Here's what I ordered, and experience using the same charger rated at 2A:

Anker I know the brand already, and is well known to be good in the charger area and seems to be very popular (£10 delivered) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B010SS8424
Does not charge my phone at all due to my cover thickness. It's a lot smaller than the next I'll mention so you have to get your aim right when putting it down. Charges the wifes phone (same model) fine with no cover on. The supplied cable is also slightly shorter, by about close on 6" or 15cm for us metric folk (5/10 for me)

CHOETECH Can't say I've heard of this brand before, but seems to be more popular based on review numbers. (£9.99 delivered) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C40OG22 Charges my phone with the cover on fine. No issues, also the wifes without issues. I do like that the base has a bigger footprint, so no having to guess if I'm putting it down in the right area. Longer cable than the Anker (10/10)

Can't say which charges better between the two... my money would be on the CHOETECH

Has anyone who bought from John Lewis had a dispatch etc yet? I ordered last week but haven't had much other than the confirmation yet, hope it won't actually take 3 weeks...

You have some pretty clever ideas and tips there! Wish I'd have that info before I put it on. I've got loads of transfer film sheets, used to transfer vinyl cut-outs to surfaces to be applied on. I think it would be 10x easier doing it that way similar to what you mentioned.
Think I'm going to leave it as is for now, hope it gets scratched so I can buy a replacement.. then will try it that way with the film along with other tips mentioned :smirk:

Thought that might be the case - didn't want to risk fishing one out from under the protector, so played it safe.

I have tried it in the bathroom before too - I was told to run a hot shower to create a steamy environment to keep the dust down.

Madness just for a screen protector, I know - but I do like a clean screen :smile:

If you still have bits under the protector I have had success in removing them using a couple of bits of sticky tape (or a proper dust removal sticker)

One bit of tape applied to the top of the screen that extends well over the edge and provides a good purchase on the screen.

pull a bit of tension onto this tape and then lift the protector in the area where the dust/fibre is and then with the second bit of tape dab the dust from the screen or, more likely, the back of the protector and drop it back on again.

Managed to get one almost perfect that looked ruined before.

Great tips, will keep those in mind for next time. Clever spraying water to keep the dust down.. like that :-) .. sounds like you've done this more than once before.

Wife put hers on slightly skew hehe .. but she has no dust under hers at least. Even did it in the bathroom like they recommended, on the toilet seat with a non-slip mat to keep it still. Recon I'd do a better job 2nd time round.

It is a brilliant protector, very chuffed with the purchase. If this phone doesn't get lost or stolen, I think it's going to last me a good 4 years and should look in mint condition too still.

Edit: BTW, my cutouts and the wifes just pulled back and stayed on the film when you remove it No need to try pick them out before hand.

JUst got my Moto X Force. The box doesn't contains headphones. Is this the case with all of you?

Yep I got mine from JL - only included the 25w quick charger

Couple of pics of the brotect applied to my moto x force. They really are very good. I popped out the cut-outs for the sensors, microphone and speakers (you can bend the glass to raise the edge and put a small blade under to pop them out.

I always fit mine in a cold kitchen, lay some sheets of kitchen paper on the table and then spray them with water/dettox to keep any dust in the area trapped, alcohol wipe the screen and wipe with dry screen cloth.

To align it I use the hinge method - two sticky tabs on the back of the phone that then flap over and stick to the screen protector when it is perfectly aligned.

fold the protector away from the screen a quick final clean and blast with air can (£1 in poundland :wink: )

Peel the backing from the protector and then flip onto the screen - perfectly aligned and dust free (hopefully!)

Then remove the alignment tabs and push out the last few bubbles.

Perfect. Very satisfying :smile:

Agree with above.

BROTECT flexible screen protectors are excellent - perfect fit, bubble free and nice and clear.

No lifting issues, they really are flexible - amazing. Very pleased.

Got to be the only glass protector that should be recommended for the X Force.

Will get some pictures up in a minute.

Right, feedback on http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018SKUWPQ
As someone who's never fitted a screen protector before, I found it confusing, not having the most steady hands doesn't help things lol ... but, this screen is great! Really really good.. it kind of just bonds itself to the screen, air sort of flows out while it goes, like its hugging the screen. It is glass thats for sure.. I tested with the small bit it comes with, very flexible, and will break if folded. It looks like its part of the phone. No edges are lifted where people report others have.
I think this is the one to get.
Things that confused me: It comes with a thin clear plastic which you pull off, I thought that was it, then it would stick to phone... no, it didn't.. there is actually another film on the harder side, the glass that needs to peel off, then the harder side, the glass is what you then lay on the screen.. trying to keep all dust clear. That was the hardest part! There was a spec of dust while laying, so I slightly raised it thinking I'll get it off with an earbud and continue. Big mistake! I touched the earbud to the sticky side of the glass resulting in it grabbing the fibers on earbud.. so, I have a cover that has fibers under it now :laughing: ... but it will do as is, can't see them really.
10/10 would buy again!

Just popped into Golders Green CPW and the price was showing £400+ (sorry didn't see exact figure or check on desk, but gone back up).

Might just be that store (error), or maybe deal has ended in stores (?)

But, looks like deal still available online. If you do order it online now I would strongly recommend getting screenshots of sale, etc, might well save you hassle.

The Moto G 1st/2nd generation had the same problem, with an IPS display. Some would be blue tinged, others yellow, other than that, identical phones.

There's a chance it's the same with the Force. Depending on who provides the displays. Samsung OLED displays have been blue tinged in the past for me.

Update: Screens have arrived! They came in a normal envelop priority airmail. Was expecting them in a box, but they're quite flexible, so long as the post people don't actually fold it, then all should be good .. Will give it a go soon and report back.

Received mine yesterday. Also had a Moto X Style and a Nexus 5 to compare it to....does anyone else really notice how green/yellow the whites look on this OLED screen? Its really bad! So much so I might be sending it back....or maybe ask for replacment if nobody else is seeing this with their example?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R21QS875QLZYC5/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01868SM16
(most recent 1 star review)
Mine ended up the same. Wasn't sure if i just screwed up applying it at first, and then saw that (or maybe theres a trick to it that we're missing!) :-(

Whites seem fine on mine

It says there are no reviews for the X Force screen protector when I ask for specific product reviews only. I ordered this one as well. Have you tried applying it to your phone yet?

Well, we should have a fairly comprehensive list of the ones that don't work soon enough :smiley:

About 4-5 at the moment?

The Nillkin PET film one is very high quality and a perfect fit - If the brotect flexible glass one still lifts I will order a couple of those - they are a good compromise for real glass.

Suspect that my brotects may be here tomorrow or Thursday. I frikkin' love applying a new glass protector :laughing:

Yeah, that will be film protectors.. still good, as we're wanting to protect our screens from scratches which the Force is susceptible to. I'm more keen on going with glass. Hopefully good as I hope!

The dn-technology one linked from http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/moto-x-force-299-99-amazon-2391786?p=27321232
Someone else has left a 1 star review with the same problem now :-(

Got my x force from CPW, and it's looking good so far :-)

Only issue is that i seem to have joined the 'bought the wrong screen protector' club - think i'll be waiting for comments on how well the brotect ones work before getting another one!

If you watch the drop tests they suggest this screen is more susceptible to dents and dings than the usual gorilla glass offerings. This screen won't shatter but it will sustain impact damage. My thinking was that putting a hard glass layer over the top would protect it better than a film? Who knows?

Some screen protector discussion going on over in the Amazon deal thread too - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/moto-x-force-299-99-amazon-2391786?p=27320985

Nice 1!

I think I go with this http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/2x-brotect-matte-screen-protector-motorola-moto-x-ce-1914418.html though as it says anti-glare, anti-scratch and anti fingerprints.

The one you've shown is extra-hard but I assume X Force would not need that?

Thanks all.

I've decided to take a chance on - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-GENUINE-Tempered-Glass-Screen-Protector-for-Motorola-Moto-X-Force-2015-NEW-/252198007063

£2.99, looks to have the correct cut outs for the sensors etc and does reference the curvature of the phone. The feedback on eBay for ones that have sold is also positive, although unfortunately no comments specifically about the fit, just the usual 'great bayer' type stuff. I'll post back when they arrive, hopefully by Friday.

And btw why not just order a cheapest one from ebay? £2 for 5? why pay £6 for 1? which is over 1000% more expensive? :confused:

:smiley:

They are slightly different (look at the zoom photos) and don't think it's from the uk "get it by Feb. 13-Mar. 3"

Also everyhing from the same seller on ebay 50p cheaper :smiley:

Because the Force has a curved screen , you need the 'flexible' one

Looks like a pack of 2 of them (same brand) here for £4.99 delivered from the UK?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BROTECT-Protector-Motorola-Anti-Glare-Protection/dp/B018SKUQOI/

I'm tempted by this deal but also worried by reports by quite a few people of a green line appearing on the screen in days/weeks/months of owning the phone, anyone else worried by this?

Just ordered mine. What's the link to the flexi glass protector guys?

Managed to smash my Nexus 4 yesterday which has been a great phone that has lasted really well for three years. I was in going to go for the Nexus 5x deal because i loved my 4 so much but given how I killed the Nexus this seemed like a good decision to go for this.

That was the exact reason I have not had a smartphone so far :smile:

​Confirm DPD, mobile ordered Saturday, I didn't expect to receive it today.

Ordered, thanks!!

Ours arrived yesterday at about 11am ... you can kiss the rest of the day goodbye now, because you're gonna be on it non-stop :stuck_out_tongue:

It's here! :smile:

Nice, thanks OP!

JL have said they are out of stock and don't know when it will be back in stock. Typical, I had a price match agreed yesterday afternoon and was going to order it today. I have a stash of JL vouchers I wanted to use. Maybe I'll get it from CPW now.

Thanks! :smiley:

DPD

Mark is currently making delivery number 36, you are delivery number 61.
Mark is approximately 1 hour 45 minutes away from you.
You can watch Mark's progress on our map.

:smiley:

I didn't have a mobile number on my account - tried calling John Lewis but they were surprisingly clueless and just said it will arrive within three weeks. Anyone who ordered from John Lewis - which courier should I be watching out for today? Thanks!

Can anyone confirm if this is still available on the John Lewis website, I cant seem to find it

The 2 next to each other: http://imgur.com/gallery/74AAOqP

Moto G1 user myself. I'm already used to the Force :-) .. and I've the huge cover which makes it even bigger. Loving it!
Have gone mental and ordered wireless chargers, NFC tags even already. Do try the NFC beam feature.. old news for others, but fantastic novelty for me :smile: ... think I'm p*ssing the wife off tho, as I constantly keep sharing stuff with here lol

Speeds on this really impressive. Just a little too big. Love the compactness of Moto G1 and a big reason many still use the iPhone 5

I believe in marshmallow the move to sd card is completely removed. So unless you use the card as internal nothing can be moved across.

I personally think the build quality and the updates for Motorola are better than LG.

Just to clarify though, you CAN still usebit as portable storage AND move Apps to the SD card.

All it means is that the Android OS treats it as a separate storage volume rather than creating a single 'virtual' volume.

My recommendation: format it as portable storage and manually move apps that you are happy to keep on the SD card using the Apps menu in settings.

Excellent phone you would die for except it was too big and the dirt collects between the bezel and the screen.

:smile: I guess

Keen to test it now... these can handle cards up to 2Tb right? :confused:

The idea of using a micro-SD for applications and application data is a good thing. It's been possible for awhile. You could set the external storage device for applications automatically with some ROM's or manually in most cases. While not solving the problem when it fails or is removed, the applications installed on it just won't function. Not phone breaking though.
Android 6.0 as posted above does this differently. System files are put on it as well as other things.

I haven't tested the feature myself so I'm only commenting on what I read above.

And here's me thinking it's a good idea really lol .. so long as it stays installed and doesn't fail, then all should be good.

I didn't know that. That's a terrible design :smile:

Yes it will mess up ur phone:
"Once a storage device is adopted, it becomes part of the system and is no longer removable. Sure you can physically remove it, but you'll be prompted to put it back while apps and services crash on your phone or tablet. It's adopted — taken in and loved by the system, and made part of the whole. If you try to remove it, things go haywire"

http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage

Yeah, recommend using it as portable storage only.

You can still move apps to the SD card if needed so don't bother using the internal/adopted storage functionality.

Also means that if you need to swap the phone for any reason, you can get up and running a lot quicker.

Not exactly. The micro-SD card will be used for applications/data, not the OS. If you take it out, many of the applications you have won't start but the phone should still function. I'm sure there are fail safes in the OS for such things.

On the internal storage front, I heard that when you set the micro SD up to use for internal storage, it is exactly that - if u take it out, it will mess up ur phone. Think of it like taking out ur internal storage in ur phone!

Anyone tempted for the OnePlus 2 over this? http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/oneplus-2-permanently-dropped-249-no-invite-free-p-p-oneplus-net-2391443

I've seen one YouTube repeated drop test from 50ft plus where although the screen doesn't shatter, the phone won't power on. Just make sure any bars/pubs you go to are only have a ground floor and you should be good! :laughing:

Hehe... very serious. I took it out the box when it arrived and threw it on the office floor. The wifes face! Her: "Wt F? .. why did you to that?!?" ... "Cause I can lol" .. I proceeded to then bash it against a metal cabinet :smile: ... now with the cover on, I got more brave demo'ing it to the kids now they're home. Figure if it's gonna break, nows the best time to performance test it. I'm confident this is a phone to last... and no, I don't think I'll be doing such demos anytime soon again.. unless the beer flows with friends perhaps, but I know that will result in an ultimate test and destroy moment. :stuck_out_tongue:

Got one of these sat in front of me.

Already got an LG G4. Anyone able to convince me not to break the seals on this box and just return it instead...?

The cover I linked up above arrived.. love it! Much fun to the kids amusement throwing it around the kitchen on the tiles .. 'again again!' :stuck_out_tongue:

Have been very tempted by the Moto Force X, but I have seen a number of reviews about that screen "cover" getting little Knicks, etc. I know its replaceable but I think what you gain in having a hardcore shatterproof phone you lose a lot in having this issue.

Hi bal3055

I have just got this after using the Oneplus 2 for a few months

I really did like the oneplus 2 and preferred it to the Oneplus one in every respect

the big let down for me was the battery life

im a power user so even the oneplus one battery life was poor - with the oneplus 2 i found the battery to be largely the same and i would end up charging my phone 3 times a day

If you do not use much battery then the phone is perfect - it has dual sim and the fingerprint scanner is very good

performance wise there probably isnt much difference between op2 and the moto force x

the moto has a better screen but i did like the op2 screen and thought colours were much better than the oneplus one

moto also has nfc and ir blaster

cameras on both seem good but moto is very fast in taking pictures

havent really tried shooting video

also moto has expandable storage which can be used as internal storage

although OP2 has 64gb which may be enough for some

hope this helps

Hi Ism - thanks for your opinion, very useful. I'm not a power user and like the look of the OP2 but think the Moto X Force might have a bit more longjevity so may go for that if I can be bothered to go through the OP2 returns process!

Hi - does anyone know how this compares with the Oneplus 2 - ordered one of those for £250 when it was on sale but thinking whether this would be a better buy for the £50 extra? Thanks

Found this thread http://forums.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-turbo-2/603120-you-can-order-replacement-moto-shattershield-lens-motorola.html
If you remove the shattershield it invalidates the warranty and also being plastic its prone to easily scratching - so a glass protector is probably a good idea.

Will be going straight on top.. hopefully it sticks ok.

had a finger print scanner on the nexus 6p. it worked well but I don't see the need for it. Not missing it at all on this phone

Are you replacing the plastic shattershield, or adding the glass screen protector on top?

I have bought this phone to replace my op2 and to be honest i would have preferred it had a fingerprint scanner.

On the OP2 it was quite accurate and quick to unlock using the scanner

however im using smart unlock and on the Moto force which seems quite intelligent

Bougt this phone 2 days ago) amazing mobile with android 6 )
only one minus for me - no fingerprint )

Screen protector I got off the mention here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/motorola-moto-x-force-299-99-from-carphone-warehouse-2388866?p=27307353

This one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018SKUWPQ ... claims to be flexible. Cover wise, I like the ones with a stand built in, have used such types over the years. But, it will make your phone bulky of course. I want it for that feature more than the protection aspect of it. Went for this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0166B15NC

Which cover ?, and the screen protector, flexible ?

IMHO it's a combination of the launch price being too expensive, the device not being very sexy (chunky and bland compared to other flagships) and it just wasn't marketed very strongly here.

There may have been a stock issue too. I spoke to the asst. manager of a CPW yesterday and he said that even though they showed lots of stock on the system, there never seemed to be any in his store.

Customers showing interest were told there was no stock and were invariably sold an alternative instead.

I purchased one from CPW late last night (Saturday 6/2/16) and got confirmation of delivery tomorrow (Monday 8/2/16) via DPD.

Why is this in a clearance sale when it was only released November 2015?

Have nexus 7 - superb. Well it was until they nacked the charging port!

Click build number! Nice

That menu option doesn't come up ..

Might get better too even.. so there is that hope. Too bad their updates on the tablets we have are not forthcoming .. however, they're the best tablets we've had yet. So much so, that we have 5 in the household now. Battery life is phenomenal .. everything just works, no crashes, build quality is amazing... and dolby sound is actually pretty good too.

Ye, 5.1 is still very nice update for a dated phone

I don't believe so. They've had a few updates though.

Is first one getting MM?

It hasn't so far. The Moto G's are actively getting updated.

Might change with Lenovo buying it

One SW update if ur lucky with this

Thanks.

Yes, Turbo 2 is the North American name

Same here. It is the only one that looks like G1. Others I find ugly. Obviously can't have an LED notification , could be annoying. The speaker is actually very clear. Not the loudest but then I haven't tested headphones yet.

I'm also considering this case:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0151E6U4O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Am I right that this is identical to the Droid Turbo 2 apart from the name?

Yes, it is good. Just move your hand close to the phone and it lights up and displays notification alerts. Tap and hold the unlock and it will show basic message info and then drag to it for full display - I really like it.

First phone I have used smart lock on too - very useful.

The last 2 results were throttled. Thanks for testing.

Tested couple more times. Check results
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/motorola-moto-x-force-299-99-from-carphone-warehouse-2388866?p=27309918

I can't believe it myself. Missed out on Style from eBay for £260. This still selling for £460!

Moto G 1st gen user still ... till my Force arrives tomorrow :smiley: ... one of the 1st things I did when I got my G was figure out how to turn off the notification light. After a day of it blinking away all the time it just had to go. So for me, its a plus :stuck_out_tongue:

Yep. Useful.

Being an AMOLED display, you could use the screen as a notification LED.

I'm not an audiophile, but there's a big notable difference between playing a track on the front facing stereo speakers on the Z3 for example, compared to my X Play. If I'd not been spoilt with the Z3 between the Nexus 4 and the X Play though I agree, it's a big improvement on a rear speaker only. I've picked up a stereo Bluetooth speaker since and tend to just connect to that more or be wearing headphones anyway if I'm travelling and watching a movie.

True but I always had a problem with notification LED - sometimes flashed, sometimes not.
Mono front facing speaker - this is not issue at all, still hundred times better than back speaker.
To actually hear stereo speakers need to be at least 1m aside - which is impossible to achieve in smartphone.

I owned a Nexus 4, then a Sony Xperia Z3 (unfortunately was stolen) and most recently moved to the Moto X Play. Just a couple of things to note that the Force has in common with the X Play that I didn't realise before ordering...

* No notification LED
* Mono front facing speaker

Hopefully not deal breakers, but to be aware of. I'm seriously tempted to go for the Force myself if I could sell my X Play for a reasonable price.

Surprisingly low. Thanks.

Testing right now

Antutu run 1, score 93000 - CPU-Z shows temp 40`C just after the test, phone feels cold
Antutu run 2, score 91000 - CPU-Z shows temp 40, max 46`C on one of the cores, just after the test, phone feels bit warmer
Antutu run 3, score 90000 - CPU-Z shows temp 42, max 49`C on one of the cores, just after the test, phone feels the same
Antutu run 4, score 69000 only- CPU-Z shows temp 40, max 42`C on one of the cores, just after the test, phone feels the same
Antutu run 5, score 68000 only- temp surprisingly low CPU-Z shows temp 40, max 44`C, just after the test, phone feels the same - just warm, not hot at all.

This is last run cause battery is almost dead.

What does this mean ??

Antutu - second fastest phone in the world.



Geekbench3 single core 3rd, multi core second

Where this, Droid 2 ??

Are those good scores?

Geekbench3 geekbench3

And here is antutu benchmark score - which is surprisly high for stock rom

I picked up a couple of tempered glass screen protectors for this, sounds a bit odd for a phone with such bold claims about its screen, but the top layer is plastic and does mark more easily than 'normal' phone screens.

Both protectors (from the same seller on ebay) will not stick to the screen? pops up on upper and lower edges, anyone else tried a tempered glass protector with this? Hoping it is just this batch/make

Yes this is the auction number for the ones I purchased - they do not stick at the edges as shown above

252222506615

Trying the flexible glass ones now.

Yes, I purchased this Nillkin case on Amazon - Nillkin case and it came with a standard protector and it fits nicely.

Looking at the droid turbo 2 forums (same phone) they suggest that a 'flexible' glass protector is required as the screen has a slight curve top and bottom. Verizon in the states actually sell a special 9H flexible glass screen for it

http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/vzw-flexible-glass-screen-protector-for-droid-turbo-2/

I have chanced these ones from Amazon - they look to have the same properties. I will post an update here when they arrive.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018SKUWPQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

LOL no I just put my phone on hers. We both have cases so maybe mine is slightly slimmer but honestly you wouldn't really notice the difference.

I just think for me it doesn't have the wow factor ... the design, even with a leather back wasn't that nice. Again this is all down to personal opinion

​http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/LG-G2,Motorola-Moto-X-Play/phones/7969,9554

Did you put the Moto X Play through the hotwash? :smile:

does code work have people tried it?
and can it only be used online?
might buy it instore

More than enough with an almost non-existent skin, it should run fantastically....look at the 5/5 reviews for it.

Had one of these, it;s not a bad phone but its not nearly worth the rrp they originally wanted. Design is horrible, like considering the moto x 2014 and moto x style are such good looking phones this makes no sense. On the plus side battery life is awesome, screen is nice and its obviously got that shatterproof screen. Word to the wise though, if you buy it then buy a screen protector as it scratches really really easily (The top layer can be replaced but motorola will rush you 20 odd quid for a new one, better off buying a 5 quid screen protector to save you from scratches)

Got mine, nice build quality but TOO big for me.

The bezels make this phone much bigger than it needs to be. I prefer the form factor of last years Droid Turbo with its 5.2" screen.

I might buy a new one of those from China on Fleabay instead.

I know it's not relevent here, but it makes me wish I'd never got rid of my 32Gb LG G2. The size of that handset was perfect for me. I caught a case of upgrade-itis and have regretted it ever since.

Heat added for this deal though.

Mine was on 16% last night at c.9pm, and was still on 11% by 11am this morning...

If I could have any phone it would be this one, but I'm still very happy with my Moto X Play at £199 (minus Amazon promo code minus topcashback voucher/bonus, etc.) and especially with Marshmallow. The shatterproof screen really turns my head but actually I always put a case on my phone and have never shattered one yet, touch wood. Battery life on recent Moto Xs seems to be a strong point too, which is always something I like.

Said every woman ever!

Genuinely interested if any women bought this, looks far to big for a lady's hand.

The screen has a 4 year shatter proof warranty from Motorola. I'm not clear on the rest of the phone.

can someone confirm if this phone comes with a 2 year warranty from motorola ?

on another thread some are saying 2 years, carphone warehouse website says 1 year but my last moto phone had 2 years

Yes, but I think they will send it during next couple of working days. 1 year extra warranty is worth to wait a while.

Ordered with John Lewis price match. We will see how its work. First Motorola for me.

Na, wasn't expecting anything really as nothing on quidco indicated a cash back was relevant. However, I still by default do everything through them.. just in case... never know :wink:

Follow John Lewis price match website. Fill it and wait until you receive email with confirmation. Offer is valid for 28 days after their email.
https://www.johnlewis.com/never-knowingly-undersold

i dont think it will come under any of the current quidco options.
fyi johnlewis will pricematch

Are you expecting £5 for 'for all Pay As You Go and Pay As You Go Upgrade handset sales'? Be great if you could confirm if it does track, thanks.

Are people seeing any cashback track through TCB or Quidco for this?

*gulp .. just ordered :confused: .. hope I've done the right thing. I've given up on using Motorola site after 3 failed order attempts with them.

There is a simple solution for this.

Once upgraded to latest Marsmallow (Android 6.0) do this:
Power down the phone
Once powered down
Press volume down and power button (at the same time) until you see android logo and full phone spec.
press volume down to select "Recovery Mode" then confirm by pressing power button
Motorola logo will show up, than android logo with text "no command"
now pres at the same time volume up and power button - if nothing happens try it again until you see "Android Recovery" with couple of options.

Press volume down 4x times to select "Wipe Data/Factory Reset"
confirm by pressing power button.
Press volume down twice to select "userdata+ personalized content"
confirm by power button.

Once done
Repeat procedure but this time select "Wipe Cache partition"

Power up your phone, set it up, run all of the updates from play store etc
New / reset android phones do some stuff in background for first couple of hours so it could be still laggy for a while.

After a while you can enjoy lag free super fast phone. - tested myself just now on Moto X Force from CPW.

Solution works on most of the android phones - not just this one.

Obviously... this will delete all of the personal data and settings and will leave yours phone in the "out of the box" condition.

.
One more thing that speed up android phones
Go to:Settings >About Phone
Scroll down
Click 5-7 times
Go back and you will see just activated "Developer Options"
Click on it and find:
Window Animation Scale
Transition Animation Scale
Animation Duration Scale

Change all of them to "Animation off"

As you may thought this just turns off "nice" animations - while opening, closing app etc.
But speeds up opening time so the phone is much more responsive.

Fantastic deal :smile: ... I had been looking at the Style for over this price. This is even better. Just placed my order

that's bad, I could see the following included in John Lewis & Tesco Direct (USB Cable, Turbo Charger, Normal Charger & Headphones)

Mine has no noticeable lag.

What accessories included with the device ? I don't see any accessories shown in website... I guess turbo charger, normal charger and headphone etc shown in John Lewis , not sure if this included with this

I have had confirmation that John Lewis will price match should people prefer to order via them or have any vouchers to use.

Just set mine up. Its fantastic. Prefer it over the Nexus 6p which i returned a few weeks back

Also Motorola cover it for 4 years if somehow you do break it!

https://youtu.be/7lhXOgJ8ahA
With this phone, not a [email protected] was given that day

anyone know if this has any cpu throttling issues that the snapdragon 810 suffered from?
It looks like it has the same version 2.1 as the nexus 6p. But not found anything definitive.

Only thing I can see missing, compared to Nexus 6p is a fingerprint sensor?
And it has a bonus of Micro SD card slot with Marshmallow using it as internalised storage too.

This is comparable to a 6p for sure.

2015 was a pretty bad year for mobiles really, kind of reached a plateau in 2014, my s5 and Z3 Compact are very close to their 2015 updates, in performance and personally I think better designed, and also both have better battery life.

The newchipsets, particularly the 810 were poor really.

Yes, it's surprisingly laggy in normal operation compared to phones with lesser specs. I had the same issue with the Moto X-Play too. It's down to the dodgy Octa-Core Snapdragon 810 and 615 processors used in those handsets, which throttle the processor speed in order to keep operating temperatures down. The lag that I found on the X-Force and X-Play wasn't an issue on the X-Style or the Moto G 3rd (at least the 2GB RAM version).

Hopefully the 2016 Snapdragon processors will work to their full potential without over-heating or over-throttling.

Really tempted by this. Does the moto x force have a notification led? and the knock on, knock off?

What did you change it for ? I wonder is it worth to buy it instead of Note 4 or Lg g4.

Damn it, totally tempted with this as i'm getting more and more **** off with my OPX playing funny **** with me.

But in the same thought the S7/G5 and others are probably only a couple months away so I'll try and restrain from ordering :disappointed:

The other thing that I found shocking and disapointing was the fact that it is actually quite laggy in places, like places that other android phones ive had with lesser specs weren't ... weird.

I'm actually delighed though, sold mine 2 weeks ago second hand on ebay for £350 so this was a right touch for me :'(

​And when someone hacks the fingerprint storage place (technical term) and steals it, all you have to to do is change your fingerprint...

I usually charge my Moto X Play every 2-3 days but have gone longer. I've actually never ran out of battery on the thing (which wasn't the case with previous phones). I charged it last night for the first time since Sunday. I don't play games just email, browsing, kindle and some light telephony but I've never had a phone that comes close on battery life. Your mileage will be different but I'd substantiate the previous comment.

Great phone had mine since November. Fab display and battery life - 4K video and decent stills. Mainly vanilla Android updated to marshmallow straight away.

it's also got wireless charging and water resistance.

As mentioned the top removable screen scratches easier than most but is replaceable. I run mine without a protector because of that. To be fair I've yet to find a way to buy the replaceable top screen in UK. They won't ship!!

Other than that - best phone I've had and a decent upgrade to the Nexus 5 etc.

I thought this phone was indestructible, however I've seen a Youtube video where he manages to break the screen :disappointed:

Cheers original poster, I snapped this up.

The X Force on display in the Currys Carphone Warehouse in Lakeside retail park, Essex is battered and I almost didn't buy mine. The bezel around the screen had dents in it, there was a chunk of metal missing from the bottom and the whole phone was covered in scratches.

I asked the salesman about the state of the phone, and he said it had been tested by chucking it down different flights of stairs and was even lobbed off the first floor balcony on to the ground floor and the screen worked fine.

When I got home, my phone was in a perfect state of repair, with no scratches or dents.

The best part was when I told my wife I got a new phone and threw it on the floor in front of her. The look on her face as she thought it would break...........

Thanks, excellent offer, couldn't help but bite.

If yer willing to wait a few weeks for delivery, you can get far better-specced phones for cheaper from the Chinese sites (respectable brands as well like Elephone). Elephone uses close to stock android so no bloatware. I have the P6000 which still works perfectly.

Elephone M3:
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_310509.html

Here's another similar-specced phone (though I can't vouch for the brand):
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Meizu-MX5-4G-FDD-LTE-Android-Phone-MTK6795-Octa-Core-20-7MP-Camera-5-5/32602383855.html?

Had been waiting for price to drop to £450 or so on Amazon before buying. This is a huge price drop. I'm hoping for good things from this phone.

Thanks both.

Yes, excellent phone. I purchased the Moto X Play < 3 months ago and can't justify buying this one without selling that at a reasonable price.

How are CPW with returns (either from store or online) if you haven't opened the box? 30 day limit? I'd want to buy this while available, but be sure I could sell my current handset before committing.

​wow..... are you genuinely astonished? it bothers me because I spend my hard earned cash on devices that meet my taste. If something bothers me about a device it doesn't receive my money, it's called personal preference, but obviously that's something you don't have right.

Just imagine saying that on an insurance claim form......

Any Moto X Play owners upgrading

I'd love to buy a phone from CPW, but they reject my VISA card every time I try to buy something (I can buy from anywhere else)...

5.4 inch who did not know like me
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_force-7555.php

Picking mine up tomorrow, Cheers :smiley:

It's a phone mate, why would something like that bother you? Genuinely astonished.

Was gonna get the Nexus 5x, now this at the same price...

G4 might have a marginally sharper camera and look a bit better but this is a far superior all rounder.

Super deal, super phone, have some heat good sir!

This or the LG g#G4 for 225 (if you can get one)??

True but Motorola give you a 4 year accidental damage guarantee

Incredible deal! Hot!

It has 3GB RAM, although good, thought 4GB is norm now for new models

Ordered. Fantastic price for such a good phone. The specs, battery life and toughness of this phone make it future proof. At £300 I couldn't say no.

It can still break. The screen is just something like 5 layers of things to make it more resistant. Like any phone, it can break if hit right.

Keep the phone locked from others. Use it to keep any specific apps locked as well to stop snooping family/friends who 'just want to have a look at it working' . . . Eventually Android Pay as well will use it.

Great deal. If it had a finger print sensor, then I'd have one

The battery would make up for it :smile:

Superstition

nice phone. but still too expensive will just wait till its £99

Still don't like the bezils on the force though. I couldn't stare at them after using the style.

Ahh I prefer LCDs to amoled, not a fan of the super saturated colours. I got the Motorola turbo charged 25watt with my Moto x style. I'm pretty sure it is one of the fastest if not the fastest charger around.

Thanks OP, managed to get last one from my local CPW in Aylesbury while I was out today.
Nice phone - prompted me to updated to Marshmallow as soon as it booted, so that was nice :smiley:

wow, this is an excellent price, even cheaper then the moto x style and has better specs, really tempted here

Heat added

Thanks OP gonna replace my OP2 with this which was a lovely phone but battery just lets it down.

Speaking of accessories anyone know a portable charger which will fast charge this?

Is it possible to mod this to make it dual sim?

I agree style is amazing, but this is, at least in theory, way better and costs less.

It is also rather new and pretty expensive up to now, it might get more support as it gets cheaper.

I simply think people to whom this phone appeals aren't happy with shelling out 500£ for it, regardless of how good it is so basically it doesn't sell. I believe this also explains this price cut, cpw were the first ones to have it in UK and marketed it a lot so I presume they have loads of stock that simply didn't sell. (I mean who would buy from cpw when you can buy from Amazon or JL for the same price...)

Also screen is amoled compared to lcd on style and it actually has 4GB of (LPDDR4 ram, ddr3 is the important bit).

Out of interest which charger is 25W,I only own a 15W turbo? (I would like to get the 25W one).

Despise cpw but that's a good find. Heat

Cracking deal! Only the lack of support on the likes of XDA prevents me from purchasing.

Why such a big battery to only last a day? iPhones last longer with 1800mah, must be the OS...

This phone is B. A. Baracus from the A-Team.

Guess i buy this to swap with my X style....

I don't get poor battery life from the style, its not the best but I wouldn't say it was poor. The 25w turbocharger definitely helps with a quick top up though. I think the force is the new flagship, it has the snapdragon 810 along with the same cameras and ram and a smaller yet higher pixel dense screen.

Possibly due to poor battery life on the Style compared to this.

Seriously though, why would Motorola release their flagship with a smaller batter life than their two mid rangers?

In saying that, everything else is superb specially the front facing speakers. It's amazingly loud and clear.

mmmmm, I'm so torn, I could return my Style to Amazon but it would be mega suspicious.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=210&t=1569397&i=20

​explain how its inferior.very little difference.

Awesome price, I wanted this since it was released, but could never justify paying that kind of money.

This has almost double the battery size when compared to X 2nd gen so that should be really good.

bargain! one ordered

A lot of phone for the money :sunglasses:

Great price I just bought the moto x style yesterday for £325. I could return it but I don't regret it even after seen this deal. I like the larger screen and the super slim bezils. The bezils on the moto x force are pretty large compared to the style and I hear from some reviews that because of the shatterproof screen they can see a small gap between the screen and the glass. That would annoy me too much over time. The only thing I wish the style had is that large battery but overall I still prefer the style. Heat added though for the price.

FFS, I bought the Moto X Style 2 weeks ago for £330, bloody CPW.

That's £200 cheaper than Moto are selling it for and £150 cheaper than Tesco. This is hotter than a hot cross bun that has been dropped in a volcano. Cheers.

Just looking to replace my stolen LG G2 - I was looking at the G4 but this is mighty tempting...

I don't really have the exact figure for my SOT but I would guess about 3 hours from 100% charge. I do use the phone for gaming, browsing and chatting. By around 4-5pm I would be down to less than 20%.

The turbocharger is great but it's inconvenient to really carry it everywhere I go. I have a portable battery but obviously the phones takes a really long time to charge this way.

I came from a Sony Xperia Z3 and still had 40-50% by the end of the day with the same usage. This phone was a beast when it came to battery life but the design IMO is looking really dated now that's why I opted for Motorola.

One review states "This phone is not shockproof" so that's them covered for any mingers doing selfies

Was going to buy the dual sim play. Who needs dual sim just use 2 phones!
Ordered. Heat.

Good phone for the money but I normally don't keep a phone long enough so not the best deal for me as I won't use the 4 year warranty that this comes with. But if you looking to keep this phone for a long time this is a deal for you. Personally I like a all metal build and fingerprint sensor I would go for the the nexus 6p but I do appreciate this phone for what it is hot.

Mines fine, 1st 10% goes fast then its pretty slow to drain

1st rule, after a big update, do a full reset, 2nd rule never restore from play store back up, always do a fresh install.

I'm at about 20% brightness.

Wow! Tempted! Argh!

Good review HERE. They do give it 4/5 at RRP, with this reduction in price, I would imagine that may change somewhat, considering one of the negative points in the review was the price!

But just a quick bit about the battery from those that have questioned it.....

With general use, a couple of hours streaming podcasts, about 40 mins of solid browsing and around 10,000 quick visits to WhatsApp, the phone still had 35 per cent left at 10:30pm. You’ll only get Motorola’s claimed “two day” stamina if you don’t use your phone for anything taxing. But that’s always the case with these bold claims.

Playing back a 720p movie on loop and doing nothing else, the Motorola Moto X Force hit the bullseye too, lasting for around 15 hours 30 minutes. It’s up there with the Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge+ as an Android stamina trooper.

This is down to the epic 3760mAh battery, which is even larger than the Moto X Play’s.

Charging speed is incredibly quick too. The Motorola Moto X Force uses one of the latest variable voltage chargers, able to get you from zero percent to 80-90 per cent in around an hour. That’s dead quick for such a massive unit.

Really good specs for £300

How is this compared to lg g4?

What is your battery life like? I get like 4 hours SoT a day and even if i needs charging up after like 20 minutes its at 70% again, never had an issue with the battery!

It's true that it will survive longer than other phones. I just know if I bought it, then it would break. Murphy's Law.

Bargain, heat!!

not a bad deal but still rather have the g.flex dropped that loads of times no broken screen.its lighter.more compact.better shape.and cheaper

Good deal if your after that particular handset but if its anything like the moto x gen 2 you could struggle to get a day from the battery.

Looks like a beast! Shame I just bought the one plus 2.....

great price!

I've been considering this for ages, had to take a punt on this at this price. £450-500 everywhere else.

For £300 this looks an insanely good phone on paper, you could buy something better from China, but they typically have quirks.. (My siswoo is stuck on android 4) ... I'd love to know if there's a reason its that cheap...

Great price. Display is shatterproof.