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cold. moto x force is 299

Hi, I thought id chuck my 2 pence in...

I think we all get a little tied up looking too much at specs, maybe reading too much into other peoples opinions in forums and not considering what the phone is going to do for us as individuals and what we will actually use it for. Certainly, i know i do!

Recently had a OnePlus 2 for about a month. It has, as we all know, 4gb ram a 'premium' build and 64gb, which is loads of memory. A big phone with huge specs.

Categorically, my OP2 could not deliver as smooth & speedy a performance as my new 5x, which has 2gb ram, which is paltry in today's market. Yes, i know OP has a developers' OS which is not 'the finished article', however it illustrated to me very clearly that power does NOT equal performance.

I am not a power user, but i spend a lot of time on my phone each day looking at the crap the internet has produced for me. I would consider myself a normal[i] user and the 5x battery life is more than enough to last me a day. If it doesnt, its a indication to me that i should have spent less time looking at crap that day... but thats just me.

As far as build quality, the lightweight feel of the 5x is a MASSIVE selling point for me, and im sure others would appreciate it too. To call it cheap is really unfair, unless your pitching up against phones made from METAL which cost up to £600-£700!!. Remember how much this thing costs for a start, then account for the fact that it isnt a behemoth and it is lighter that most competitors out there.
And its not about the money either. i would have happily splashed out on the 6p, but i felt it far too damn big (did i mention my small hands!?)

But my MAIN argument is this...
Its a two horse race - Android and Apple. Pick your side. Its that simple. (for the moment at least...)
If a manufacturer (not Apple) developed a sweet looking phone with great specs and tried to pitch it to you with an Apple OS that they had 'tinkered with' to make it idiosyncratic to them. You would run a country mile. You'd expect it would look shoddy, run slower, have unnecessary bloatware and you'll find it a niggle to change phones later on, as you traverse the migration from all the own-brand accounts you've ended up joining...
Thats the whole thing for me with all the Samsungs and Motos and whatever else out there. They are, in effect, Nexus phones that have been bastardized to buy you into their brand - often at the cost of usability.

We all have our motives - specs, price, the newest kid on the block, look, feel, etc.
For me, I like Android, i like the way it works, i like the simplicity. I also like the fact that Google are integrating my life into one seamlessly easy-to-use network. Like Apple, yes. Only importantly for me, not Apple.
If you like Samsung's S Planner in your life, or HTC's Backup is the only backup you'll ever want, that's great. only God will judge you!
If you like Android, buy a Nexus - its the simplest, purest non-Apple interface out there, it runs smooth and quick and doesnt need a ridiculous phone to run it....because it just works!

But that's just me. Consider what is right for YOU!

a lot better than in s6

the LG G3 had a 3000mA battery, and that died every day with moderate use, can't imagine the nexus surviving with higher specs and bigger screen, good price though

you mean 32Gb

same price at carphone warehouse and £299 for the 64gb
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/phones/lg-nexus-5x-16gb/handset?colourCode=ICE

Well I ordered a 32Gb in white and it arrived yesterday. Still waiting for my nano SIM so haven't played with it yet... but on the barcode label it says..

32Gb QUARTZ 3GB.


Have they secretly upped the RAM then ??


(edit - just Googled and it appears the 3GB is some sort of country code. Oh well !)

Bought one. Thanks

I bought this and returned due to poor battery performance and cheap plasticky feel. Personally 16GB is too less if you are planning to take photos and videos and let's say about 50-100 apps.

If you plan to have minimal apps (10-20) and don't plan to take too many photos (5-10) a month, probably 16GB is good. But, I would still go for Moto X phones any day for the build and quick stock updates.

get a nexus 5

Wouldnt that be a 5p?

Mixed bag.

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5x-three-months#slide2

It's also cheaper elsewhere and no way is this £80 better than the £175 Moto X (2nd gen).

Man, that told me...Thanks!!

Lol at the people complaining about the plastic feel, forgetting that you're less likely to get attenuation issues compared to metal devices.

HOT, Got one love it.

Ummmm....



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C'mon, if I hadn't, someone else would have!

Sorry you're right I was thinking of the 6p

Getting this delivered from eGlobal Central, £218 with code, about £212 after topcashback

GSM Arena gives it an endurance rating of 60h compared to 101h from my Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.

Until something can match that (or come close to matching), I think I will pass.

​It probably will, but it will be closer to the 2 year old mark. I bought both the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus for around the £150 when they were about 20 months old.

Well said.

No such thing as a 5P

Not on the 6P.

Hi, I thought id chuck my 2 pence in...

I think we all get a little tied up looking too much at specs, maybe reading too much into other peoples opinions in forums and not considering what the phone is going to do for us as individuals and what we will actually use it for. Certainly, i know i do!

Recently had a OnePlus 2 for about a month. It has, as we all know, 4gb ram a 'premium' build and 64gb, which is loads of memory. A big phone with huge specs.

Categorically, my OP2 could not deliver as smooth & speedy a performance as my new 5x, which has 2gb ram, which is paltry in today's market. Yes, i know OP has a developers' OS which is not 'the finished article', however it illustrated to me very clearly that power does NOT equal performance.

I am not a power user, but i spend a lot of time on my phone each day looking at the crap the internet has produced for me. I would consider myself a normal[i] user and the 5x battery life is more than enough to last me a day. If it doesnt, its a indication to me that i should have spent less time looking at crap that day... but thats just me.

As far as build quality, the lightweight feel of the 5x is a MASSIVE selling point for me, and im sure others would appreciate it too. To call it cheap is really unfair, unless your pitching up against phones made from METAL which cost up to £600-£700!!. Remember how much this thing costs for a start, then account for the fact that it isnt a behemoth and it is lighter that most competitors out there.
And its not about the money either. i would have happily splashed out on the 6p, but i felt it far too damn big (did i mention my small hands!?)

But my MAIN argument is this...
Its a two horse race - Android and Apple. Pick your side. Its that simple. (for the moment at least...)
If a manufacturer (not Apple) developed a sweet looking phone with great specs and tried to pitch it to you with an Apple OS that they had 'tinkered with' to make it idiosyncratic to them. You would run a country mile. You'd expect it would look shoddy, run slower, have unnecessary bloatware and you'll find it a niggle to change phones later on, as you traverse the migration from all the own-brand accounts you've ended up joining...
Thats the whole thing for me with all the Samsungs and Motos and whatever else out there. They are, in effect, Nexus phones that have been bastardized to buy you into their brand - often at the cost of usability.

We all have our motives - specs, price, the newest kid on the block, look, feel, etc.
For me, I like Android, i like the way it works, i like the simplicity. I also like the fact that Google are integrating my life into one seamlessly easy-to-use network. Like Apple, yes. Only importantly for me, not Apple.
If you like Samsung's S Planner in your life, or HTC's Backup is the only backup you'll ever want, that's great. only God will judge you!
If you like Android, buy a Nexus - its the simplest, purest non-Apple interface out there, it runs smooth and quick and doesnt need a ridiculous phone to run it....because it just works!

But that's just me. Consider what is right for YOU!

BETTER THAN 1+2 WHICH was £249 (64gb) recently?

He's not really been critical. He's a good poster who has contributed 37x more than you. Don't be critical of other deals unless you post yourself.

Voted Hot!- Fair price for a good high end phone. Forget mrew42 criticisms. His last deal for a phone was £815 for a Z5 yesterday, which went -115 degrees. When I pointed out his bad deal, he reported me for "trolling" LOL!

That's why I like the moto series... Especially with marshmallow. Sd cards are essential until onboard storage becomes a good value upgrade

Nice, there is the 32gb option then for those of you who want to play games and store more music than you will ever listen to on your phones :wink:

​+1 Nothing wrong with the Nexus 6 battery.

personally speaking I see the 5X as a big step down from the 5 due to the absence of wireless charging ... I've a charging pad on my bedside table so phone charges over night and after buying a new pad my olds one is on my desk at work. For me wireless charging of one of those ideas which seemed unnecessary until you've used it at which point you never want to be without it.

Poor man's Nexus 6P.

.. Don't get me wrong, buy something else if you like but it's just that I'll upgrade more often and spend less than you

Not really unless you want to take lots of gig photos. I can't really see 99.9999%would really see an extra £200 worth it for that. It's fine for indoor night photos at home for example.

With the Google Now launcher its as close to vanilla Android as most people probably need. Certainly for me, and I am a long term Nexus user (4/5/7)

I have this phone and the only complaints I have are:
Unless you spend your money, you will get a crap USB C cable which will either break your device, or for me so far, make the touch screen really unresponsive.
The charger has a usb c shaped hole, and the phone too of course, so you will have one charger for your phone and no other ones will be any use to you. Your battery pack will also be of no use to you (though the battery has been grand so far - but point still stands).

Right. The other thing is, very occasionally Chrome just crunches to a halt whilst I am listening to podcasts over bluetooth. The audio stutters, the phone becomes unresponsive, and eventually something crashes - I assume that will be fixed soon.

Aside from the physical problems of USB C at this moment in time (it is nice to be able to jab cables in without looking) and one bug - it is smashing.

I've gone from a Nexus 4 which in all honesty didn't feel like much of an upgrade over my Galaxy S2 in user experience) to a Galaxy S6. The Galaxy S6 is of course better, well it's better spec and the camera is excellent, however I recently put Marshmallow on the Nexus 4 and the user experience wipes the floor with the S6. The S6 is truly crippled by Samsung's version of Lollipop. I'll eventually get Marshmallow on the S6 and it'll then be a decent phone a year after I bought it.

I've lived with a sh**ty user experience for a year and paid a premium price for it. This has made me even consider moving to iPhone 6S or a Nexus 5X/6P. I'll have to 'tough' it out for a few more months. I'm guessing that my next phone will be an iPhone 7 or whatever Nexus is next after the current ones. I can't see me going for the S7, I really like the bland but quick stock experience which just works.

S6 has useless battery life, and some quite crappy bugs, such as swapping to Ultra Low Power mode and back to Normal mode, the Samsung keyboard becomes default keyboard instead of Google, and even though Nova Launcher is set to ON in Services in Accessibility mode, it will say it's off until you select the setting which then says it's ON but it's not so you have to toggle it...oh I can't be bothered explaining it further, it's a crap OS which if it was Q.A. tested by Noddy and Big Ears would still fail to get a pass.

"Honestly can't really see any reason to spend more on a phone. Camera is fine, except in really low light and distance (e.g. didn't do too well at gig other night)"

No reason to spend more on a phone er except for that reason. Anyway there's obviously reason enough to pay more for phones it depends on the features you want and the quality of those features as you've alluded to in your reason not to spend more on a phone ironically.

I opted for the (Huawei) Honor 7 at this price in November, and even if they were the same price now I'd still opt for it over the Nexus 5X. Better battery, 50% more RAM, SD slot, premium build. This is the Nexus to skip IMO.

​Fair enough, I felt the rubberised plastic was practical as well as nice to the touch, in addition to being lighter. Didn't care for the design under the N4 glass either personally. Not held a 5X as I'm onto the 6 now, the specs of the 5X were disappointing (bar the fingerprint scanner).

Style adds OIS, extra 0.2", better build, I think gyro and 810 vs.615 snapdragon from memory (and £150ish)

More or less same the x play and style anyhow yeah?

LOL then you definitely need an X Play, you just feel smug you spent just £200 on it, not posh :wink: Honestly can't really see any reason to spend more on a phone. Camera is fine, except in really low light and distance (e.g. didn't do too well at gig other night), and the exposure slider helps in most situations, speed is fine, battery is good, screen is nice, vanilla android (well vanilla with bourbon anyway).

No the Nexus 4 had a glass back, both the 5 and 5x are plastic all over. I skipped the nexus 5 after feeling it in my hand but had all Nexus phones before and the Nexus 6 which was nice but too big. The price on that came down quick for a used one. The 6p don't really interest me but looks like its asking price.

I could be wrong but it sounds like there are some crossed wires between the Nexus 5 and 5X going on here. The 5x is plastic I think not glass, the 5 was maybe glass? And the 5P is better built too. Too many 5s going around!

Had a Moto X style for 1 day last week and that was awesome build quailty, felt a lot like a Nexus 6 version 2. Sold it just because it felt too posh to go naked in my pocket lol

Had one for a day and it felt very cheap in the hand in my opinion. Worth buying when it gets to £150 mark. My moto G 2015 feels more premium imo, obviously not as fast but same android experience. I miss the premium feel of the Nexus 4. The 5 and 5x are not as nice, the Nexus 6 was too big and the 6p looks nice but not tried one.

Seems a good price at the moment though so heat for that.

No not confusing weight with quality. The back was glass which I liked and the plastic used seemed better quailty but that is only imo so just an opinion. The 5x is very cheap feeling in every way.

My Nexus 5 was pretty poor but my Nexus 6 has faired much better, I can go 2 days without charging a lot of the time.


I've not held a Moto G but I've held a Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, I'd have to disagree with you that the 4 was more "premium". The Nexus 5 was much nicer. Maybe you are confusing weight with quality?

They ship 32GB version to some international destinations that they won't ship the 16GB to....just why :confused:

Unfortunately £250 aint premium enough

Agree but at least the nexus 4 had a premium feel. This just feels cheap and that is a shame and it is over priced. But it was nice and fast with a nice screen so I suppose it depends what you want. I just expect a premium feel when the price is premium.

cold. moto x force is 299

Like others have said, battery isnt the greatest in this. I will often struggle to get to late afternoon before hitting 10%, however my old OnePlus One would happily survive till late evening. Obviously this is with my usage so YMMV.

Which is a shame as its a fast handset spoiled by its cheapness. Feels like a budget phone in the hand.

Good, I'm not sometimes either.

32gb is £299.99 also at Car Phone Warehouse

Same price on Car Phone warehouse. The 32GB is far more desirable for £50 more

i upgraded from an lg g2 to the 32gb version of this and the battery life has gone from nearly 3 days to nearly 2 days. other than that, having pure android is a dream :smiley:

seems like everyone is clearing stock ahead of MWC at the end of the month!

Well I said when the 32Gb drops below 300 I might have to bite... so I might.
(or will it drop some more???... damn!)

16gb not enough.....need 32 but its £300

I for one prefer Amazon. Have some heat Hulk!

Bad battery life it seems.