do you feel compelled to post the same comment on every 5x deal??
honestly some people
A1RN
7 Feb 166#18
Lol people arguing over which CPU is number one 1, are you mining Bitcoins on your phone? Unless you are playing intense games (mainly marketed at twelve-year-olds) on your phone why would you care, compared to the 801 there is practically no difference day to day.
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rugman
7 Feb 16#1
specs look average at this price
havoc666 to rugman
7 Feb 162#6
what is average? second best cpu on the market? fhd instead of usless qhd?
DocRobotnik to rugman
8 Feb 161#38
I thought the LG G4 at £225 was a far stronger offering.
Robjh
7 Feb 161#2
it's an Excellent Exceptional Phone - Believe Me! :smile:
Dragon32
7 Feb 16#3
Damn if only it was a 64gb for this price. :disappointed:
Still a hot deal for people that don't need so much memory/have a lot of stuff on the cloud.
capt_carl
7 Feb 16#4
Not sure how well it compares to current phones, I sold mine to get my Nexus 6 recently and the 6 is miles faster. I'd be inclined to say it's a little expensive compared to what you could get that is recent. Not voting either way.
mracerimmer to capt_carl
7 Feb 16#19
Nexus 6 or 6P?
thenewmessiah
7 Feb 16#5
Way more expensive than a G4, it's it worth the extra
elbs to thenewmessiah
7 Feb 1612#7
do you feel compelled to post the same comment on every 5x deal??
honestly some people
nublets2k
7 Feb 16#8
Average screen, average ram, average soc, average storage, average camera, average battery. There's nothing about the Nexus 5x that isn't average, it's just a midrange smartphone.
The 808 doesn't even come close to the second best cpu on the market.
thenewmessiah
7 Feb 16#9
No but I need to buy a new phone and the G4 is tempting but not quite there. I'm wondering if this is worth considering
solid
7 Feb 161#10
808 is the second best CPU on the market... For the next month or so (until 820 based phones are released)
fishmaster
7 Feb 162#11
Currently out of all available SOCs on phones, this is the order how powerful they are:
I will probably be buying a phone based on Snapdragon 820 as I prefer to use custom ROMs and not wait for Samsung to release a ROM so everyone else can base a ROM on it.
nublets2k
7 Feb 162#12
This has a fingerprint scanner and it's a bit smaller, plus it gets the latest Android releases straight away.
The G4 has a better camera and microsd.
You should consider the Moto X Style and Moto X Force too.
nublets2k
7 Feb 16#13
No it isn't, the Exynos 7420 and Snap 810 are ahead of it at the very least.
Where does the Snapdragon 805 come?
solid
7 Feb 16#14
OP link doesn't work for me
And I can only see the 16gb version for €350 / £270
Anyone have a link for the deal?
warlockuk
7 Feb 162#15
Still the worst battery of any device I've owned. Even after wiping the cache partition.
fishmaster to warlockuk
7 Feb 16#17
It's seriously poor, you can remedy this by using a custom ROM and doing various tweaks, then it becomes acceptable. I haven't bothered as I can't stand Lollipop, I'm waiting for the official Samsung Marshmallow ROM which has begun to roll out.
fishmaster
7 Feb 16#16
I've listed the most common SOCs apart from Mediatek from 2015 and for 2016 the 805 has no place being in the listing.
A1RN
7 Feb 166#18
Lol people arguing over which CPU is number one 1, are you mining Bitcoins on your phone? Unless you are playing intense games (mainly marketed at twelve-year-olds) on your phone why would you care, compared to the 801 there is practically no difference day to day.
nublets2k to A1RN
7 Feb 16#20
Yeah, aren't you?
fishmaster to A1RN
7 Feb 16#29
Yeah there's no point making new CPUs, all you'll ever need is what came out in 2015. No need to ever buy another phone now.
Jammy007
7 Feb 16#21
This or the Motorola Force? Both run stock android as far as I'm aware
rev6 to Jammy007
7 Feb 162#27
Force.
Dazzla
7 Feb 16#22
I'd agree with all that apart from camera. The 5X and 6P cameras are up there with the best performers.
havoc666
7 Feb 161#23
Nexus and Motorola don't need the best hardware to perfect work. Samsung need 8 cores and 4 gb ram for laggwiz. You can find on yt, how nexus 6 with 3gb ram ddr3 destroy in multitasking s6 edge with 4gb ram ddr4 and "better" cpu.
warlockuk
7 Feb 16#24
Not really worth jumping through hoops just to get a usable device though. May as well get something better and pop this on ebay.
fishmaster
7 Feb 16#25
No way I'd do that, I use it with the Gear VR which is a truly great device. I will keep the S6 as long as the Gear VR stays useful to me.
ChampionshipManager
7 Feb 16#26
Abysmal phone for the price.
kawsar17
7 Feb 16#28
Great camera, decent screen and best of all, stock android. After having a note 3 and 4(now got a 6p)don't think I can go back to touchwiz.
Can't comment on the battery life on this mind.
warlockuk
7 Feb 16#30
Ah, no need for that for me - waiting on the Vive. :smile:
fishmaster
7 Feb 16#31
I've seen the Vive in action, looks clumsy and very expensive to me. The Gear VR is wireless and simply works. Whichever VR comes out this year, it still won't have anywhere near the resolution that's really needed yet, however the Gear VR does an excellent job of giving you that immersive VR experience and is the best bit of kit I've bought in maybe 20 years.
warlockuk
7 Feb 16#32
GearVR'd be limited to 60fps, unfortunately, and I imagine heat from the phone + battery life could be tricky for gaming (other than mobile gaming); I'm not sure what the latency would be either. So far I've only tried the Oculus for elite... If the Vive ends up cheaper than the Oculus CV1 I could be tempted. :smile:
Lukedotv
7 Feb 16#33
yes lol.
Lukedotv
7 Feb 16#34
Kirin 950 has a crappy GPU, and the kirin and exynos score lower than the 820 in single core. 820 devices beat the kirin by about 40k in antutu
fishmaster
7 Feb 16#35
I'm going with a Snapdragon 820 based SOC, it will have Kyro cores, so proper Qualcomm cores like Krait before it, unlike the Snapdragon 810. It will have custom ROM support the quickest.
sancheez
8 Feb 16#36
Expectation seems to be that the launch price of the Vive will actually be higher than that of Oculus.
But that can (probably - depends what the final price is) be mitigated by the Vive coming bundled with the hand controllers. Which we'll need to buy separately for the Oculus. (When they become available. Don't need them for Project CARS or Elite so no matter ...)
None of which stopped me pre-ordering an Oculus obviously. Roll on April. (Missed out on March delivery as my bank are over-cautious so it was into April delivery by the time I finally completed the order .... grrrr)
warlockuk
8 Feb 16#37
I'm hoping it'll be the same or less as Oculus kinda went a bit high right out of the gate. Considering the DK2 was only $350. Sure you get a game + xbox one controller, but I don't need that. What killed Oculus for me was their awful drivers - one set actually destroyed a windows 10 machine of mine with a lovely crash loop (long story); their W10 support has been terrible and their drivers (since 0.6) have made support a bit tricky too...
...on the upside, it'll be compatible with OpenVR so it'll work with everything that the Vive works with (in theory).
What makes me optimistic, though, is HTC claiming they're now more invested in VR than mobile phones - bit of a bold statement, so I'm wondering if there'll be some kinda subsidisation going on with a lot of cash bags on desks to make the Vive give everyone else the middle finger. Time will tell, I guess. :smiley:
casa.steve
8 Feb 16#39
5x doesn't come in 64gb as far as I know.
robcro
8 Feb 16#40
Problem is I'd rather use a 3310 than be on Vodaphone.
If you can unlock it.. maybe. But I'd rather have one pre-unlocked.
uksnapper
8 Feb 16#41
Can I use it to make phone calls and send texts ? :-)
borosidf
8 Feb 16#42
update the link please, can't find it!
pukenukem
8 Feb 162#43
Just want to give my take on the Nexus 5x. I had a Nexus 4 for nearly two years, and it was a fantastic phone. Incredible value, and reliability. It just worked, and I know friends who still use theirs and are happy with it. So, I hoped the same of the Nexus 5x, sadly my experience is not that of the Nexus 4, and this has been a real disappointment of a phone.
This phone lags, not always, and not when you first buy it. I've uninstalled, factory reset, changed developer settings that related to animation, all sorts of 'fixes', but I still find myself rebooting the device around once a week to get it going again. It starts with non responsive presses of the screen, things just aren't slick and eventually you're waiting 5-10secs for even the home button to recognise your press. The camera with its HDR+ is a complete phone killer, the photo is excellent and impressive, but there's always a good chance the phone will lock up and need rebooting when using it.
There is something not quite right with the 5x. I didn't want to admit it for some time, but a recent use of my old Sony Z3 (which I didn't like), made me realise just how laggy my 5x was. Some people have blamed the issues on encryption combined with a low amount of memory, but I'm not convinced as there are others phones out there that don't have these issues with similar specs. We know it's not the processor, it's in many phones and works great.
It's hard to know what the reasons are for my problems, perhaps I've a faulty unit but I've found many stories of others having the same issues, equally there are those that say they've no such problems but I wanted to share my experience and help inform possible buyers. My advice would be to buy another phone, I'm convinced there is something fundamentally wrong with 5x.
Edit - If anyone does return to this thread, Google just released an update which has solved ALL my issues with this phone. The update was advertised as solving the Nexus 5x issues too, so this isn't an under the radar fix. I am so relieved, as I thought I had bought a dud I would have to put up with for another year as I couldn't afford another. All the lag has gone, the camera is fast and reliable, and it is as if I've bought a new phone. While it has only been 24 hours, the phone has NEVER been this slick, it just feels different. I'm very curious to know what exactly was wrong with it, clearly it was software related, but what. Were they throttling the processors, was memory being used incorrectly? Either way, best I can tell this phone is now a really good phone.
DocRobotnik
8 Feb 16#44
You can unlock it. I did. I'm on O2.
mankymanning
8 Feb 161#45
Same here, bought it on PAYG, unlocked the boot loader and am running a custom debloated ROM on it.
thenewmessiah
9 Feb 16#46
Good advice on this thread. Will avoid this phone
pukenukem to thenewmessiah
17 Mar 16#47
I wrote a long post on this thread, which is now old, but I thought this might be useful to know. In the last few weeks google announced an update was going out which would fix the Nexus 5x performance and stability issues. It was widely reported on the various tech sites, and so seemed legit, it turned out to be be 100% true. This update hit my phone 24 hours ago, it is as if I own a new phone. All the lag, all the ups and downs of performance have gone. Before, a reboot would return it to good speed, but from this update I realise that even that wasn't right either, the phone is lightening quick, as it should be. Also, the camera is VASTLY better, again no lag, quick and reliable. Perhaps it a bit too soon to say 100% it is fixed, but it does seem they have resolved whatever was ruining the Nexus 5x. Shame it took so long, but now I have the phone I wanted it to be. So, perhaps don't rule out, unless you've made a purchase already.
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Still a hot deal for people that don't need so much memory/have a lot of stuff on the cloud.
honestly some people
The 808 doesn't even come close to the second best cpu on the market.
1. Exynos 7420
2. Snapdragon 810
3. Snapdragon 808
4. Kirin 935
This year the order looks to be :
1. Kirin 950
2. Exynos 8890
3. Snapdragon 820
I will probably be buying a phone based on Snapdragon 820 as I prefer to use custom ROMs and not wait for Samsung to release a ROM so everyone else can base a ROM on it.
The G4 has a better camera and microsd.
You should consider the Moto X Style and Moto X Force too.
Where does the Snapdragon 805 come?
And I can only see the 16gb version for €350 / £270
Anyone have a link for the deal?
Nexus and Motorola don't need the best hardware to perfect work. Samsung need 8 cores and 4 gb ram for laggwiz. You can find on yt, how nexus 6 with 3gb ram ddr3 destroy in multitasking s6 edge with 4gb ram ddr4 and "better" cpu.
Can't comment on the battery life on this mind.
But that can (probably - depends what the final price is) be mitigated by the Vive coming bundled with the hand controllers. Which we'll need to buy separately for the Oculus. (When they become available. Don't need them for Project CARS or Elite so no matter ...)
None of which stopped me pre-ordering an Oculus obviously. Roll on April. (Missed out on March delivery as my bank are over-cautious so it was into April delivery by the time I finally completed the order .... grrrr)
...on the upside, it'll be compatible with OpenVR so it'll work with everything that the Vive works with (in theory).
What makes me optimistic, though, is HTC claiming they're now more invested in VR than mobile phones - bit of a bold statement, so I'm wondering if there'll be some kinda subsidisation going on with a lot of cash bags on desks to make the Vive give everyone else the middle finger. Time will tell, I guess. :smiley:
If you can unlock it.. maybe. But I'd rather have one pre-unlocked.
This phone lags, not always, and not when you first buy it. I've uninstalled, factory reset, changed developer settings that related to animation, all sorts of 'fixes', but I still find myself rebooting the device around once a week to get it going again. It starts with non responsive presses of the screen, things just aren't slick and eventually you're waiting 5-10secs for even the home button to recognise your press. The camera with its HDR+ is a complete phone killer, the photo is excellent and impressive, but there's always a good chance the phone will lock up and need rebooting when using it.
There is something not quite right with the 5x. I didn't want to admit it for some time, but a recent use of my old Sony Z3 (which I didn't like), made me realise just how laggy my 5x was. Some people have blamed the issues on encryption combined with a low amount of memory, but I'm not convinced as there are others phones out there that don't have these issues with similar specs. We know it's not the processor, it's in many phones and works great.
It's hard to know what the reasons are for my problems, perhaps I've a faulty unit but I've found many stories of others having the same issues, equally there are those that say they've no such problems but I wanted to share my experience and help inform possible buyers. My advice would be to buy another phone, I'm convinced there is something fundamentally wrong with 5x.
Edit - If anyone does return to this thread, Google just released an update which has solved ALL my issues with this phone. The update was advertised as solving the Nexus 5x issues too, so this isn't an under the radar fix. I am so relieved, as I thought I had bought a dud I would have to put up with for another year as I couldn't afford another. All the lag has gone, the camera is fast and reliable, and it is as if I've bought a new phone. While it has only been 24 hours, the phone has NEVER been this slick, it just feels different. I'm very curious to know what exactly was wrong with it, clearly it was software related, but what. Were they throttling the processors, was memory being used incorrectly? Either way, best I can tell this phone is now a really good phone.