buys OLED, uses the worst quality media he can for it.
well done. why dont you spend £10,000 on a speaker setup then play magnetic tape through them?
ashmac
16 Feb 1618#2
no hdr
no 4k
no deal
lazyboy
16 Feb 1612#4
This wont get hot because people think that they need 4k, but this is a fantastic TV!
freakstyler
16 Feb 168#3
Well worth every penny in my opinion. These LG OLED's make even the most expensive last gen Panasonic Plasmas look like a joke.
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Rossco0401
1 Mar 16#76
I have gone round the houses with 3 x 4k Televisions - 2 x Android TV (1 x Sony Bravia KD55X85 - hated the OS - slow - buffy - kept resetting itself etc...) 1 x Philips 55PUT6400 55 Inch 4K UltraHD Smart Android TV - slow again - motion control awful - picture rubbish) - and finally Buy Samsung UE55JU6800 - the best of the initial 3 - but not great with my cinema receiver - arc not working properly and motion control not the best.
Then spent a bit more to get this - I was a skeptic of the curved screen on paper - but in my house I can see no reflections and picture is awesome all sitting angles and the picture might be only Full HD - but - way better that the 3 4k TV's I tried, and I know from photography that resolution is not always the most important thing, so for my money - its a winner - until the 4K oled's come into price range........
friendlyfire321 to Rossco0401
1 Mar 16#77
How are you getting on with the ARC on the LG? Mine seems to be a bit flaky at times with handshake issues but could be due to my receiver. And yep agree with you about the picture, my Samsung 4k has been relegated to the bedroom
friendlyfire321
25 Feb 16#75
There's currently not much available on Amazon and a lot of the films are not included in the Prime subscription. Sky Q is expensive as it's just released but to be fair it is a big change up from the standard Sky system and is quite promising even not including the upcoming 4K content. Even standard Sky packages are expensive at full price.
I think 4K Blu Ray may be the game changer as not overly wowed by the current 4k streaming on Netflix so far
jacksonliam
25 Feb 16#74
Amazon prime is 79 quid a year and includes 4k and HDR streaming.
fatdeeman
25 Feb 16#73
I wonder how much of that 4k content will just be 1080p upscaled just like a lot of HD channels showed upscaled SD content.
Gollywood
25 Feb 16#72
2 curves like a wave effect on the screen
markoUK
24 Feb 16#55
I'm really struggling too weighing up the 1080p v 4K
Gollywood to markoUK
25 Feb 161#71
I bet! They're heavy TVs! :man:
treb
16 Feb 16#5
If you can wait they will be below 1k very soon, everything is going 4k now, this time next year the same tv will be this price but in 4k. Yes, i know it's only my opinion. :P
PsychoSonny to treb
16 Feb 161#11
hahahahha
an LG 4k oled 55" for £1300 within a year?
I'll buy 10 if that was the case to sell them on.
will take about 5 years if not more for that to happen.
Gollywood to treb
25 Feb 16#70
except the content ...
afroylnt
24 Feb 16#69
Quote from another website re sky 4k streaming service ; Customers who already have Sky Broadband or Sky Sports or Sky Movies packages in place can get their hands on the basic 8-tuner Sky Q set-top box with 4K streaming for a £99 one-time installation cost and subsequent monthly payments of £42 for the subscription.
So £500 p/yr for 4k streaming .. hhmmm.. let me think about it for considerably less than a nano second.. the answer is no....nadda... not happening..
Could be a number of years before 4k is available at a low cost...
fatdeeman
24 Feb 161#66
All these people moaning about no 4k, 75% of people don't even view 1080p sources on their TVs still.
There isn't even a 4k home media standard yet for gods sake!
Not to mention the fact you have to sit closer to the screen than most people will be comfortable with just to appreciate the extra detail over 1080p
I love 4k, it looks awesome but for most consumers it isn't the same quantum leap that 1080p was over SD. The majority of people will never be close enough to the tv to appreciate the advantage.
jacksonliam to fatdeeman
24 Feb 16#68
There are standards which are pretty unlikely to change at this stage.
HEVC H.265 for streaming 4K and HDR, HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2 for the inputs, UHD blu ray for physical media.
I get the 'you can't see the difference' and 'there's no content' arguments, they were all around when HD came out. But if you're spending £1k+ on a TV, you obviously care about having the best picture quality and future proofing. When all the video and games start coming out in UHD with HDR you'll be watching it in reduced quality than the authors intended. HDR is well worth having on OLED in my opinion.
The LG EF9500 is the sweet spot for me, should be about this price next year.
friendlyfire321
24 Feb 16#67
It's 4k with HDR that may be a substantial leap up from 1080p but it's still early days and like others have said 1080p hasn't really been fully implemented across broadcasters. 1080p has been implemented in TVs for over 10 years now
ashmac
16 Feb 1618#2
no hdr
no 4k
no deal
abhijitdash123 to ashmac
23 Feb 161#25
Are you serious? If 4K defines good quality for you, you can get any £500 TV and get it.
If you love deep contrasts and excellent blacks, then an OLED is for you. There are no TVs which have better quality than an OLED at the moment. So I would say this is hell of a deal :smiley:
If someone has not seen this in action, I would say pay the store a visit and you will be amazed :smiley:
Super HOT.
afroylnt to ashmac
23 Feb 16#28
re 4k - so you will be sitting 6 feet or closer to the TV? otherwise you won't really notice the difference
HDR is is in part an effect to make up for not having OLED technology.
fatdeeman to ashmac
24 Feb 16#65
No clue.
Incognitoso
24 Feb 16#60
in currys they have stand for OLED TV - and there was LG 55EC930V "1080p & LG 55EF950V 4k
So I have chance to look the difference Same video file on the tvs
default settings/same setting in menu :
1 difference in Gama - the 4k was more brighter but same gama 2.2 white balance on for 4k was more pleasant where 930V was more warm white + these extra pixel video look little more sharper on 4k
2 Clarity " I know 4k will be better it is not about this - the video l was 1080p and on 4k oled some way sharper more details image how they done this ? "
3 Motion clarity looks like 4k handle better
TV price difference in half - basically you can buy x 2 OLED 1080 vs one 4k
Decision
markoUK to Incognitoso
24 Feb 16#64
Thanks for this. I stopped by today to check out these televisions. They didn't have a 930v 1080p but they had the 950v 4k. When I saw the LG 4k my jaw almost hit the ground!! Wow
They also had the Samsung js9000 which was also very good but couldn't take my eyes of the LG 4k oled. Had I only seen the Samsung I would have come away very impressed by it.. I guess at the end of the day you get what you pay for.....
encaser
24 Feb 16#63
Hot. 1080p sets are more than a viable option for years to come. The image on this will look more than acceptable and better than LCDs showing full HD. And on a set this size, 4K isn't going to be the jump between digital SD and HD. Well worth serious consideration IMO if buying a 55" set.
sheppio
24 Feb 16#62
I wasn't talking about the technology, I was stating that 4k resolution on a 55 inch TV is noticeable when compared to a 1080p resolution, and therefore should be taken into consideration when purchasing a TV of this size.
afroylnt
24 Feb 16#61
Unfortunately its only the marketing people who are laughing at this one....only stopping briefly to think of their next gimmick to get the gullible general public to buy a new tv...
benfisher1991
24 Feb 16#59
Hows that the worst quality media? Kodi isn't a media it's just basically a file manager.
MrFlux001
23 Feb 16#47
Any idea on how it performs on input lag for gaming?
Got2LoveGadgets to MrFlux001
24 Feb 16#58
I have one and use it for gaming it has a gaming mode as is the norm these days. If you google LG9300 this is the US model but the same as UK unit you should be able to find some figures
stupot76
24 Feb 16#57
Yeah I know they're meant to be good I've got the last plasma that Samsung released which is the next best thing to OLED. I want 4K but can't afford an OLED so I'd end up with LED ,I'm probably not going to bother ans stick with my plasma
markoUK
24 Feb 16#56
I've narrowed it down to this tv (£1300) vs Samsung UE55JS9000 at an extra £350
Any thoughts?
MaZSuPeR
24 Feb 16#54
my fault I put an expiry date in the post, thanks for the good info and making it even more difficult choice between 1080p oled or Hisense 65 720 must buy before F1 starts .
markoUK
24 Feb 16#53
Why is this expired?????
arfster
23 Feb 16#52
A 1080p OLED set has a much better picture than any 4k non-OLED, let alone at this price.
jacksonliam
23 Feb 16#51
In what world is Kodi low quality?
Depending on the hardware, it'll play 4k 60fps. Or 10bit 1080p (good luck getting 10bit from blu ray).
Even a Raspberry Pi will play a full 50GB blu ray rip in Kodi.
stupot76
16 Feb 16#10
I'd have to expect 4k for that amount of money
Chigro to stupot76
16 Feb 163#19
Personally, I would place OLED 1080p over non-OLED 4K any day. But that's just my opinion - the public view appears to favour resolution above everything else, which I personally disagree with. I've seen cheaper 4K sets look awful when playing 1080p footage (which is still far more widely available compared to 4K content).
I think whether to buy this or not will entirely depend on personal circumstances. This year will see manufacturers push 4K and HDR sets but they are going to cost a lot more than £1299 (and will take a long time to reach that price). The set I would love is LG 65EF950V (4K, OLED, HDR) - but that's £3700!!! I wouldn't mind a "cheap" OLED for the bedroom and will start to get excited once they break the £1000 mark. Getting there though - so heat OP.
theo00 to stupot76
23 Feb 161#50
plum
friendlyfire321
23 Feb 16#46
4k isn't a concern for the size of the screen. If you're gonna go bigger then 4k is a viable option but still very limited content available right now and there's the cost of upgrading internet, Blu Ray, Sky Q etc to consider
sheppio to friendlyfire321
23 Feb 161#49
I test set top boxes and TVs as a job. 4k on a 40" is not really necessary, but 4k on a 55" like this will definitely be a noticeable upgrade. I agree there is little content at the moment, but I certainly wouldn't buy a non-4k TV at this size.
markoUK
23 Feb 161#48
Friendly Fire, thanks for taking time to advise and clarify on this thread. Much appreciated. It's not like we are considering purchasing a £10 piece of meat, this is, even by hot deals standards, a big purchase
friendlyfire321
23 Feb 16#45
Would be good if other manufacturers did get on board a bit. The Panasonic looks incredible using the LG panel but a bit out of my price range. Just don't get all this need for curved screens
markoUK
23 Feb 161#44
Must admit, I considered this TV about 12 months ago but just couldn't justify the spend. This is seriously seriously tempting now.
I guess my only concern is the non4k but saying that, the pictures I've seen this display in john Lewis was nothing sort of sensational!!
Smoking173850
23 Feb 16#43
I don't see oled going any where unles they come up with a better newer cheaper tech. Samsung will be in oled screens by next year along with Sony aswell. Then they will battle for our cash and prices will drop. This is the reason why a monopoly is never a good thing. At the moment lg has the monopoly but not for too much longer.
Smoking173850
23 Feb 16#36
Great price for the tv but for me it's more about these oled dropping in price very fast. With Panasonic now entering the oled market and no doubt other high end manufacturers next year these sets will plumet. Heat added
friendlyfire321 to Smoking173850
23 Feb 16#42
Maybe, but Panasonic have gone in with their only model at just under 8 bags with a very limited production. Obviously as more panels get produced the build costs will come down but i'm not sure whether LG are currently making or losing money on each set sold. Newer tech like 4k HDR and now 8k are keeping prices high and 1080 OLED may even be discontinued after these current models. It's possible that if the prices don't come down and people don't buy that OLED may become unsustainable
Got2LoveGadgets
23 Feb 16#41
I have one of these it's a fantastic set. Gaming on it is excellent!!!
mas75
23 Feb 161#40
can you possibly share your calibrated settings?
friendlyfire321
23 Feb 161#39
Also because this model has been superseded it's likely that the stock in stores will begin to run out soon. Later made panels also seem to be having much less of the issues during earlier production like pink/yellow tint. Plus John Lewis have a pretty good guarantee plus there's the 90 day return thing if not completely happy.
markoUK
23 Feb 16#37
^ friendly fire, can the television calibration be done at home by oneself or does it need a professional to do it?
friendlyfire321 to markoUK
23 Feb 161#38
Either, mine is self calibrated but obviously a profesional will probably do a much better job. I'm very happy with my picture with how it's currently set up.
friendlyfire321
23 Feb 161#35
This is a great TV, does need some calibration/tweaking to get the best picture as the settings out of the box aren't great. The motion issues seem to have disappeared via recent software updates as i'm noticing hardly any issues with it now. Looks amazing with Blu Ray or decent HD material and the 3D isn't bad either. Standard def broadcasts don't look good.
The newer version of this, the 910 is more expensive but I think looks cheaper due to the plastic stand and white back plate. Also has one less HDMI and less powerful internal speakers. But it does benefit from a better processor for the WebOS and of course is the latest model so may have more future support/updates.
Vag417
23 Feb 16#34
Bought this TV about 8 months ago for £1800, a couple of friends have since bought top end 4k sets, Samsung and Sony, I wouldn't swap my Oled for either. Great tv, great price. Heat.
Dannyrobbo
23 Feb 162#33
We still don't have full HD broadcasts yet via Sky which is also a joke.
blueice_ron88
23 Feb 16#31
No 4k? What a joke.
Nut82uk to blueice_ron88
23 Feb 16#32
Everyone wants a 4k TV, yet 4K media is almost non existent, that's the joke.
markoUK
23 Feb 16#30
Stunning price - this is the real deal. Great post OP
stbk
23 Feb 16#29
Heat added for all you geeks. :smile:
We have some real tv geeks here, I love it. I have a Plasma and no way would I swap it for this Oled.
vulcanproject
23 Feb 16#27
This is why I am reluctant to even bother buying a 4K HDTV at the moment. You'll pay £1k for a good one (not this cheap tat that a good 1080p panel can match) and there is hardly any content that will improve the fidelity over 1080p.
Plus in 5 years time when we do have a wealth of 4k content, 4k OLED will likely be totally dominant in everything from £500 up and make even the best multi £k LCD 4k TVs of today look like turd. These OLED LG's are bloody amazeballs when you see them in person.
chromosome17
23 Feb 16#26
Been hunting for a 40" oled, anyone know if any on the horizon?
2minutenoodles
23 Feb 16#24
We fully researched curved TV's unless they are at least 70" they are not worth buying.
Waspkiller86
23 Feb 16#23
I still have a Panasonic 50" v20 plasma TV that is 6 years old and cost £1400 in 2010. Been looking at a new TV but honestly the picture isn't any better than my current Tv.
Boxer
16 Feb 162#22
Magnetic Tape! not heard of them. Can you recommend one of their albums? :smiley:
tempt
16 Feb 162#20
I bought one of these for Kodi. Horrible banding and colour cast, but the blacks are great.
PsychoSonny to tempt
16 Feb 1623#21
buys OLED, uses the worst quality media he can for it.
well done. why dont you spend £10,000 on a speaker setup then play magnetic tape through them?
MED5
16 Feb 16#18
This is a great price!
ken-doh
16 Feb 162#17
Technology is evolving so quickly at the moment, UHD and 4k will be the standard in 2 - 3 years. Buy a cheaper set now and in 3 years spend the big bucks
ch1z
16 Feb 166#8
I have one of these and the picture is fantastic. Constantly wowed by hd material. Sorry but the 4K and HDR is just a marketing to get you to part with hard earned cash. Where is the content. One or two shows on Amazon and Netflix. You are not likely to see any difference at the 55 end of the screen size. When I bought this it was next to the 4K oled, I could not tell the difference. Motion handling and colour accuracy are great compared to LCD. Sure they are all over blown when in Store Mode stick on cinema or expert 1 setting and you get a fantastic more realistic picture. For those that liked Plasma this is the one for you.
NARMAK to ch1z
16 Feb 16#15
It's not just a marketing gimmick. 4K and HDR are the next steps on the PQ ladder, but it's more accurate to say the contents not come in disk form yet. It will be landing later this year or so with the CES announcements made for UHD players.
This OLED whilst great, does suffer from tangible issues, that anybody might want to see ironed out and get the benefit of the HDR and 4K ability from the 2016 models if they can hold out. If anybody bought their sets, of course they'll be happy. It's a great tech, but anybody that can wait a bit, probably should. Price drops will happen for the 2016 models eventually but once those land, these will naturally drop even more later this year.
cannibalwombat to ch1z
16 Feb 161#16
Yes broadcast 4K is almost non-existent but as with Full HD and HD Ready before it, it will creep in and become the standard sooner than you think. At £1K+ a TV like this is an investment, it's going to be your main TV for a good few years surely? Even at shorter viewing distances (dictated by my small-ish living room), my 42" 1080p Sony TV betrays its low pixel density. At 55" I can imagine it's even worse. If you're spending in this region why not future-proof? This set will still produce stunning pictures, and if you're not planning on gaming at 4K or watching 4K blurays/streamed content ever then fair enough. I'm certainly planning on getting one of the 2015 LG 4K OLEDs (probably the EF950V) later this year e.g. around black Friday/xmas when they should be much cheaper.
GadgetHunter
16 Feb 16#14
The motion resolution of this LG OLED is the same as for typical LCDs (including high end models). This is what you would expect given that both displays use "sample and hold" i.e. display one image in freeze frame until the next frame comes along. Without interpolation you get 300 lines of resolution. With interpolation that doubles to 600 lines.
Plasma didn't have sample and hold because it is inherently a flashing display technology. (For much of the tim e a plasma screen is actually black but retinal persistence makes it look like a constant image.) Some LCDs (Sony and Samsung) mimic this with Black Frame Insertion (BFI) - it improves the motion but reduces the brigness of the display.
Plasmas could get up to 1080 lines of motion resolution. Plasmas such as the last two generations from Panasonic and the last generation from Samsung could achieve motion resolution of 1080 - as could Sony and Samsung LCDs with BFI.
xfish
16 Feb 167#13
You can buy one atm for £2200
Do you really think it will take 5 years to go down to £1300
This LG 55EC930V was around £2000 not so long ago.
freakstyler
16 Feb 16#12
Just my opinion, these just look much nicer physically, you don't get infinite blacks with Plasmas and lets not forget Plasma TV's weren't exactly niggle free themselves. I've seen a few of these on test and I've not noticed any motion handling issues.
freakstyler
16 Feb 168#3
Well worth every penny in my opinion. These LG OLED's make even the most expensive last gen Panasonic Plasmas look like a joke.
PsychoSonny to freakstyler
16 Feb 162#9
no they don't
their motion resolution is less than half of the last gen panny plasmas
yes they are good but atm your still better off with a plasma until all the niggles are sorted.
motion processing being the main one.
madbull
16 Feb 161#6
Same in Richer Sounds but with 6 year guarantee (although have to go in store). The picture quality is excellent on, the only things that put me off are the colour accuracy and poor motion handling.
timetosurf to madbull
16 Feb 16#7
is motion bad really??
lazyboy
16 Feb 1612#4
This wont get hot because people think that they need 4k, but this is a fantastic TV!
Opening post
I must have 910v thou :(
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well done. why dont you spend £10,000 on a speaker setup then play magnetic tape through them?
no 4k
no deal
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Then spent a bit more to get this - I was a skeptic of the curved screen on paper - but in my house I can see no reflections and picture is awesome all sitting angles and the picture might be only Full HD - but - way better that the 3 4k TV's I tried, and I know from photography that resolution is not always the most important thing, so for my money - its a winner - until the 4K oled's come into price range........
I think 4K Blu Ray may be the game changer as not overly wowed by the current 4k streaming on Netflix so far
an LG 4k oled 55" for £1300 within a year?
I'll buy 10 if that was the case to sell them on.
will take about 5 years if not more for that to happen.
Customers who already have Sky Broadband or Sky Sports or Sky Movies packages in place can get their hands on the basic 8-tuner Sky Q set-top box with 4K streaming for a £99 one-time installation cost and subsequent monthly payments of £42 for the subscription.
So £500 p/yr for 4k streaming .. hhmmm.. let me think about it for considerably less than a nano second.. the answer is no....nadda... not happening..
Could be a number of years before 4k is available at a low cost...
There isn't even a 4k home media standard yet for gods sake!
Not to mention the fact you have to sit closer to the screen than most people will be comfortable with just to appreciate the extra detail over 1080p
I love 4k, it looks awesome but for most consumers it isn't the same quantum leap that 1080p was over SD. The majority of people will never be close enough to the tv to appreciate the advantage.
HEVC H.265 for streaming 4K and HDR, HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2 for the inputs, UHD blu ray for physical media.
I get the 'you can't see the difference' and 'there's no content' arguments, they were all around when HD came out. But if you're spending £1k+ on a TV, you obviously care about having the best picture quality and future proofing. When all the video and games start coming out in UHD with HDR you'll be watching it in reduced quality than the authors intended. HDR is well worth having on OLED in my opinion.
The LG EF9500 is the sweet spot for me, should be about this price next year.
no 4k
no deal
If you love deep contrasts and excellent blacks, then an OLED is for you. There are no TVs which have better quality than an OLED at the moment. So I would say this is hell of a deal :smiley:
If someone has not seen this in action, I would say pay the store a visit and you will be amazed :smiley:
Super HOT.
HDR is is in part an effect to make up for not having OLED technology.
So I have chance to look the difference Same video file on the tvs
default settings/same setting in menu :
1 difference in Gama - the 4k was more brighter but same gama 2.2 white balance on for 4k was more pleasant where 930V was more warm white + these extra pixel video look little more sharper on 4k
2 Clarity " I know 4k will be better it is not about this - the video l was 1080p and on 4k oled some way sharper more details image how they done this ? "
3 Motion clarity looks like 4k handle better
TV price difference in half - basically you can buy x 2 OLED 1080 vs one 4k
Decision
They also had the Samsung js9000 which was also very good but couldn't take my eyes of the LG 4k oled. Had I only seen the Samsung I would have come away very impressed by it.. I guess at the end of the day you get what you pay for.....
Any thoughts?
Depending on the hardware, it'll play 4k 60fps. Or 10bit 1080p (good luck getting 10bit from blu ray).
Even a Raspberry Pi will play a full 50GB blu ray rip in Kodi.
I think whether to buy this or not will entirely depend on personal circumstances. This year will see manufacturers push 4K and HDR sets but they are going to cost a lot more than £1299 (and will take a long time to reach that price). The set I would love is LG 65EF950V (4K, OLED, HDR) - but that's £3700!!! I wouldn't mind a "cheap" OLED for the bedroom and will start to get excited once they break the £1000 mark. Getting there though - so heat OP.
I guess my only concern is the non4k but saying that, the pictures I've seen this display in john Lewis was nothing sort of sensational!!
The newer version of this, the 910 is more expensive but I think looks cheaper due to the plastic stand and white back plate. Also has one less HDMI and less powerful internal speakers. But it does benefit from a better processor for the WebOS and of course is the latest model so may have more future support/updates.
We have some real tv geeks here, I love it. I have a Plasma and no way would I swap it for this Oled.
Plus in 5 years time when we do have a wealth of 4k content, 4k OLED will likely be totally dominant in everything from £500 up and make even the best multi £k LCD 4k TVs of today look like turd. These OLED LG's are bloody amazeballs when you see them in person.
well done. why dont you spend £10,000 on a speaker setup then play magnetic tape through them?
This OLED whilst great, does suffer from tangible issues, that anybody might want to see ironed out and get the benefit of the HDR and 4K ability from the 2016 models if they can hold out. If anybody bought their sets, of course they'll be happy. It's a great tech, but anybody that can wait a bit, probably should. Price drops will happen for the 2016 models eventually but once those land, these will naturally drop even more later this year.
Plasma didn't have sample and hold because it is inherently a flashing display technology. (For much of the tim e a plasma screen is actually black but retinal persistence makes it look like a constant image.) Some LCDs (Sony and Samsung) mimic this with Black Frame Insertion (BFI) - it improves the motion but reduces the brigness of the display.
Plasmas could get up to 1080 lines of motion resolution. Plasmas such as the last two generations from Panasonic and the last generation from Samsung could achieve motion resolution of 1080 - as could Sony and Samsung LCDs with BFI.
Do you really think it will take 5 years to go down to £1300
This LG 55EC930V was around £2000 not so long ago.
their motion resolution is less than half of the last gen panny plasmas
yes they are good but atm your still better off with a plasma until all the niggles are sorted.
motion processing being the main one.